By Bimal Sharma
(Due to privacy concerns, the name of the author is changed. Views are personal.)
TORONTO: As I read the news this week about 257,515 people migrating to Canada last year, I had a chill running down my spine as I considered the fate of these immigrants who would have to start their job hunt the very next day of their arrival. Their imported money would soon run out and if they have to survive in this country, they will have to get a job quickly.
Personally speaking, my family had a great life in Dubai. We managed to get a good education for our kids. My husband and I had satisfying jobs and a good bank balance thanks to our tax-free salaries.
Then suddenly, this Canada bug bit us as we did not want to return to India after working for about two decades in Dubai.
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So we decided to apply for immigration to Canada. After a few years of waiting, we got our PR Cards. When we told our friends that we are going to settle in Canada, many of them warned us. They narrated horrific tales of new immigrants in Canada.
They warned us that highly skilled and experienced people, who have worked in managerial positions in Dubai or India, are working as cab drivers or factory workers in Canada. We were also told that even if you did get a job, you will have to work much below your professional rank, which will deeply hurt your ego and self esteem.
In fact, some friends suggested that we would be better off going back to India to the warmth of our family. But we suspected that they are fooling us and we paid no heed to their advice.
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So in April 2009, we left Dubai and landed in Toronto to start a new life, against the wishes of these family friends. We were in a hurry to get back into our former profession. But it took me more than a couple of years to get a teaching license. Then I spent more money on upgrading my qualifications and membership fees. Then I had to do a lot of volunteer work as I waited and waited for a school job.
But nothing happened.
So here is my story: even after spending four years in Canada and upgrading my skills and using up all our savings, I am still without a job. Actually, this IS the story of thousands of fellow immigrants.
School boards are on perpetual strike. Teachers are being laid off. It is a very frightening situation for teachers. But the school boards keep training more and more teachers and making money!
Most of these teachers are jobless or they are doing jobs that pay them peanuts and kill their self-esteem.
My husband, who had three decades of work experience in construction in Dubai, was reduced to doing odd jobs which are not even worth mentioning.
Chasing this so-called Canadian dream, we have ended up using all our savings. We have already spent a couple of hundred thousand dollars to live a descent life, so that we will not lose the will to survive in this struggling country with no job prospects.
Having spent almost all our life savings, we don’t know what to do next – whether to stay here or go back. Our life is in a limbo.
My advice to people who are itching to migrate to Canada to give a better future to their children is this: Think hard before you take any decision and don’t fool yourself by painting a rosy picture in your head. You may end up working in factories, call centers, security agencies, Tim Horton’s or packing factories. You will lose your savings. Your will lose your morale and self-esteem. Tensions will destroy your marital and family life. Finally, if you are lucky enough, you may get an entry-level job and then pay someone else’s mortgage while living in their basement as you dream of buying your own little nest.
And buying your little nest in a hurry (with your saved money) could be your worst mistake, for God forbid if you are laid off, as it happened to my dear friend, who will pay the mortgage? Your house dream will collapse and you will be buried under it.
And if you do get a job – which most probably you won’t enjoy doing, but you will do it anyways to survive and pay the mortgage – you will end up wasting the prime of your life paying back the mortgage. It is not worth it, believe me.
Our struggle for survival continues to this day. We don’t know when we will wind up this fruitless venture and head back to India. This is the story of many immigrants to Canada.
(UPDATED: This article first appeared on March 4, 2013. Due to privacy concerns, the name of the author is changed)
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Trudeau is trying to prevent a real estate collapse, therefore his government has increased immigration numbers to an unsustainable number to get more rent plebs to pay rent to the landlords. It’s like a scam and Ponzi scheme.
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For a young attractive female, Canada is a PARADISE. An endless supply of men who are willing to pay C$5,000 cash for a dinner date at an expensive restaurant. The law in Canada protects the integrity of women. Canada is a great country for a female immigrant.
For a middle-aged man, Canada is HELL. The legal system views him as a privileged class yet he is discriminated in the job market by not only his age, race or ethnic origin, but is also vilified by the Canadian government feminist policy. It’s women first, then children, then pets. Men have no rights in this country.
Canada is the civilized version of Saudi Arabia, but the Canadian women are the elite class.
The yearly amount that you will pay in rent for a cockroach infested flat in Toronto can afford you a parcel of land within 4 to 5 years.
You are paying rent to make the landlords and home owners richer.
Sadly, the immigrants are selling everything that they have back home to pay rent that gets another man richer to buy more assets to rent to more immigrants.
I remember a young man from Guatemala who came to Canada with his wife.
They sold everything that they had in Guatemala, and despite me telling the man to do general labour work on the side, he refused to look for work like that, and they ended up selling not only their personal properties in Guatemala, but also that of the wife’s and his in-laws. His father in law took a huge loan and used his home as collateral.
For what? To pay C$2,000 a month to rent another man condo in Lee Centre Drive in Scarberia?
Your Guatemalan amigo wouldn’t be poor in his homeland if he was living off the savings while refusing general labour jobs.
This is what I don’t like about middle class foreigners being told that they should liquidate everything to migrate. Latin American real estate is becoming pricey these days. I doubt that your compadre will afford to repurchase the land that he sold in Guatemala if he were to do that today.
I’m sorry but your amigo is stuck in a trap. He can’t leave the country because he can’t afford to return.
In a true socialist country, the elite would have to pay their fair share of taxes and wealth.
The elite in Toronto are not forced to pay their wealth to the working class. It’s the opposite. Immigrants are giving their wealth to the rich and government.
Immigrants work in factories, pay C$1,600 or more a month to rent a cockroach and rat-infested apartment in Toronto to make the Toronto elites richer.
I still don’t get it why educated and professional classes of Indians want to leave their comfortable lifestyles in India where they can afford house, servant and labourers, to pay rent for the home-owning classes by working as a servant and labourer in Toronto.
It baffles me.
I don’t see anything concerning about those fleeing dire circumstances to start a new life in Canada, like persecuted religious minorities, war crime victims, and domestic violence victims in countries lacking women rights, but educated Indian professionals coming here to work as general labourer and janitor just to afford rent. Just. baffles. me.
I’m a Canadian of European descent, and I would like to live in India where I can afford a home and live a middle class lifestyle. I can’t get that standard of life in Canada.
I’m working for $25 an hour for the local municipality, and yet I can’t afford a home in my city.
So why would Indian professionals want to live as second class citizens in Canada when they live a good life in India?
You bought an interesting point. Asia is crowded and infrastructure non existent for the entire population. not to mention the pollution and safety. So they leave to avoid these these situations. When they get the good things in Canada, they are upset about the lifestyle. Well, the truth is no place in the universe has it all!
But those middle class immigrants can afford to live in suburban cities in Asia instead of living in apartment slums in Toronto?
This has been discussed extensively. Those guys leave India because they believe the lies. Canadian government advertises that it is developed country with lots of jobs. When these middle class people leave India they believe that they are going to get same jobs and their job experience and education will be valued as it is valued in their country of origin. You may claim that they are foolish to believe that, but this is volume business. You tell that to 1 million people and even 1% fall to the false Canadian ads., it is still thousands of immigrants.
Parag, the new batch of immigrants from India are international “students” mainly from Punjab and Kerala. They are a new breed of immigrants. Young, globalized and they adopt to Canadian culture easily. Lots of Punjabi gangs, prostitution rings, dangerous driving and criminal activities going on with the younger generations.
They are not the quiet, suffering in silence middle class immigrant who left his affluent banking job in India to clean public washrooms for minimum wage in Toronto. Fortunately, that is a dying breed. Many Indian nationals tell me that the reason why Trudeau opened up the quotas for foreign students is because the global middle class is waking up to the fact that Canada is a lie for upward mobility.
There is no upward mobility for a home-owning middle class Manager in Mumbai or Beijing to work for minimum wage at Tim Hortons and rent a roach infested apartment for C$1,800 a month.
Salman,
I have to disagree.
The Middle Class in developing countries are being lied to and given false pretenses to migrate to Canada.
It should be a disgrace to the reputation of Canada for an Indian with a Phd working as labourers and school janitors.
Because “1 Canadian Dollar equals 60.67 Indian Rupee!!!”
What does that have to do with immigration? The Canadian dollar is also collapsing right now.
has it collapsed yet? LoL 1 CAD = 61.02 today.
Alpha College, a subsidiary of St. Lawrence College is reported to have de-enrolled International students after they paid their tuition, leading many to fear deportation to their home countries.
Canadian government is taking money from the Third World to enrich the the wealthy class in Canada. BEWARE!
Ashok, Canada needs immigrants. We need immigrants to:
1) Work at low wage jobs and not complain.
2) Become consumers to make Bell, Telus, Loblaws, Weston, Rogers family, Shapiro family, Bronfman family richer. Guaranteed new customers every year.
Gen Z
Well yes, but its no secret. Canada follows European model of development. In the European system, people think of putting minimal effort for getting average increment in improvement. Cause they are already developed in terms of infrastructure and work life balance.
So in the eyes of Canada, driving taxi is a great job. chilling at beach on long weekends is the best part of life. Low wage is still good enough to live for 2 people working and having a dog. The high wage and high tech job is the dream of an immigrant which doesn’t concern Canada. Have you seen an Irish girl or Danish guy in downtown Vancouver do 2 jobs? No. Further, if Canada lets an immigrant do 2 jobs, this will put the Irish girl in a dilemma to work hard. So the govt has to equalize the immigrant by taxing for 2 jobs so that the European can feel secure about work life balance and job security. Canada follows European model of socialism and its no surprise. We wont work hard or be rich and wont other let also work hard and be rich. That’s the socialist motto.
Your second point about new customers for Bell is how Europe socialism works. There is income equality but not wealth equality. So what it means is incomes will be equal for doctors and truck driver but time in Canada results in wealth accumulation. So if you stay in Canada 200 years, you will have abundance of money. You cant come and get rich in a few years. This is how Netherland, Belgium, and other European countries work.
Canada is great life if you want to live care free like the Europeans (Vancouver experience of beach, hiking, skydiving) but it is a nightmare if you want to live like an immigrant who has to send money back home.
Canada is not a European model socialist country anymore.
The government guarantees that the elite get returns on their investments in real estate, telecoms, groceries, etc. This isn’t socialism. It’s crony capitalism.
If you’re coming here at 30 plus years of age, keep in mind that your work experience & education means nothing,
You have to retrain and do entry level jobs with the 20-something Canadian-born university students doing their work semester while studying. It’s not good if you have work experience and work ethic under your belt.
Hundreds of Indians and Africans studying in Ukraine are being viciously assaulted and harassed by Polish nationalists at the border. Trudeau should give those fleeing war express entry into Canada.
Canada is costly, low wages and the economy is not as great as America, but at least we don’t have Polish nationalists acting violent on Medicine doctorate students because they are Black.
Trudeau help those medicine students. We need more doctors!
India student shot dead in Toronto, while he was going to work part time in mexican cafe.This incident is a big slap to all those parents who think canada is much safer than USA.
Not really. The frequency of these events are much rarer compared to US. You cant argue with the data. Canada still ranks much higher than US cities for safety across the board.
The international student was shot a few yards away from one of the most affluent communities in Canada- Rosedale, yet bandits do not even dare try to rob the rich people.
They murder working class people and students using public transit.
The TTC doesn’t care about safety of their patrons. Neither does the Toronto Police if you’re not a white middle class person, especially a white woman.
The TTC & Toronto Police would rather wait on a non-white getting murdered than to take preventative action. Zero tolerance on crime in Rosedale and affluent communities.
But at least there isn’t a polish nationalist stabbing or shooting international students in Toronto yet.
Dally,
Strong feed on the weak, research this and that. Great stuff. these are all observations of reality.
is that the right way?
dominant feed (or oppress) on the weak. Canada has laws to help protect the vulnerable from the bullying.
Misogynistic societies are dominated by males. Canada has laws to help woman.
Many treat LGBTQ badly. Canada has laws to protect LGBT.
Selfish interest are the way to go according to you. Canada has laws to stop such people from conquering the country economically and socially.
So, by your own admission, you are lost
Surely if you believe in status quo of rich or strong oppressing poor or weak, Canada is against that.
You can’t have it both ways:
If you say Canada is great, your ideals are bad.
If you say your ideals are great, Canada is bad.
So what’s the solution?
Surely, you don’t want to oppressed by Canada in their self-interest or do you…..lol!!!
The unspoken truth regarding Canada is that young people, and mainly females have much more to gain than a middle-aged man. Many middle-aged men from India regret migrating to Canada. They allege that it’s a hell for them because the Canadian system doesn’t cater to their needs. A young woman has a better chance to succeed in Canada.
If you have sons, you better consider that the marriage prospects for young ethnic men are dire unless there is arranged marriage in the home country.
Indian men who have a middle class lifestyle in India will be doing a stupid thing to migrate to Canada to find a wife. Google “incel problem Toronto”. Many Canadian men are sexless and have no future.
This “Dally Llama” is something else. Impersonating the Dalai Lama, and being an ignorant closet racist to boot.
It’s only in Toronto that you will find a taxi driver who was a Physician in their home country, and did surgeries in developed countries, but cannot be employed as a doctor in Canada.
There are educated professions from Singapore who are serving coffee at Tim Hortons.
The problem is that middle aged Indian men migrate to Canada and end up worse off than they were back in India where they had a job a middle class lifestyle and are not faced with reverse discrimination in the education and job market.
Canada caters to young people and females for equity reasons. Middle aged men have no chance in Canada.
At least in India a “middle class lifestyle” doesn’t prevent a man from finding a wife. It only affects the poor and those living in overpopulated states.
But to find a wife in Canada?! The Canadian men are having difficulty because female students are taught to fear and hate men, except for the ultra-rich Toronto elite.
Imagine that you are working a good career in India, and then you migrate to Canada to be sexless and treated as a persona non grata.
If Canada is that bad, pack your bags and go back where you came from. And take all of your friends and relatives with you.
You won’t be missed.
Hey yo. We are not second class citizens in Canada. We have a right to be in this multi-cultural country just as much as you. An interpretivist can interpret in any way they see the data. We dont need your or Queen’s approval who is on welfare. In USA, we kicked the monarchy out and now kicking out all the invader racists back to Europe.
If you dont like it, go back to where you and your forefathers came from. Take all of your friends and relatives with you.
You wont be missed even the slightest.
Now that we introduced each other’s emotional intelligence, let’s get to business. Mind you, I am a second-generation Canadian.
First, “we should leave” Why? This world doesn’t belong to one type of people.
Canadian govt brought us here with false promises. If you were buying a car and it didn’t work, you would sue the company or ask for a refund at least. Cause you have your rights as a human. We are not second-class citizens, and we can demand change or even sue the govt.
Second, based on your statement, it implicates the idea that Canada should be accepted as status quo. Why? The status quo is a European mindset in the context of Canada. No, we are not Europeans, and we will change it to suit our way as well. This is a multi-cultural country, not Europe cultural Canada. I didn’t see the invaders accepting the status quo before they massacred the natives. Your colonial mindset is clearly showing. Every country the British invaded, they didn’t want to leave. They were forced out. So, it seems you don’t want to leave as well. Then don’t tell others to leave.
Canada tells people to leave cause people like you don’t like it. That’s abhorrent. Who put you as a judge? Typical colonial mindset. You think your thought is better. Democracy means tolerance to people who think differently.
Third, “Pack your bags” is what you said. We are not bag packers like you people. We come with family, luggage, and life savings. It’s precisely the reason many complain. You will never understand. You may backpack at 40 yrs in Thailand thinking you are discovering life, but we know the truth. lets not talk about it. Also, you get help from govt. it shows no sense of responsibility and accountability. Getting the govt to help you in times of need and at other times, you say freedom is more important. You can’t have it both ways. That’s hypocritical and opportunistic. Who helps the immigrants? now you can learn to understand the hardness of life for immigrants.
Fourth, “You won’t be missed”. Data proves otherwise. Yes, Canada does miss us. Canada needs immigrants’ money to run their healthcare. Cause the natives won’t let you take resources and European invaders don’t want to work hard. There is only one option left. Steal other’s money with false pretense. That’s what the Canadian government does. Smart immigrants don’t stay in Canada. They leave. Only a bunch of unambitious people left over. Then you take the good jobs which you can’t do. To do high-tech good jobs, you need to study. Canadians don’t want to study. They want to enjoy life.
In the US, because of the constitution and every one equal, the best survive and immigrants flourish here in upper levels of society. KKK supporters want to implement laws just like the European invaders that limit immigrants. This is exactly what you are saying to do by limiting immigrants. If you don’t know what I am talking about, ask the medical physicians union of Canada how they limit foreign highly qualified doctors. Read the story of Erik Steffen. In the US, we immigrants have forced the government to recognize qualifications.
We immigrants are highly qualified to do any job including your job of sitting at the beach and it’s been proven time and time again in the western world so wake up from your delusions. We are having children, juggling high-tech jobs, having time to follow religious duties, and anything else you want to throw at us without going into drugs, welfare, or divorce. 80% of the population live in Asia and we are getting educated and coming to any place on this planet that we can have opportunities in just like the European invaders did in centuries previously. This land, that you think is yours but how wrong you are, is also due to the invaders coming here. if they limited themselves, you wouldn’t be here. So, we immigrants will not be limited by you.
Lastly, I DID LEAVE but that doesn’t mean anything. This is my country, and I will change it for the better for my fellow Canadians. The future is all about education and innovation. That’s who we want in Canada, not pessimistic, racist people, scammers, and nepotistic people like you Dally. Many immigrants from Asia and Africa will be more beneficial to Canada’s economy, so all I can say in conclusion is this:
“Educate yourself and learn to critically understand what is right and truth from wrong and lies. If you can’t do that best is that you pack your bags and go back to where you came from and take all your like-minded friends and relatives with you. I GUARANTEE you, DALLY, won’t be missed at all!”
It seems like a slumlord or racist Canadian wants immigrants to pay for their retirements. This is why the site is being trolled by haters.
Prove me wrong on any of these combinations or even one:
Air Canada aircraft you use: not made in Canada
Covid vaccine you use: not made in Canada
Computers you use: not made in Canada
Telecom Satellite you use: not made in Canada
Social platforms you use (FB, Twitter, Insta, etc.): not made in Canada
Electronic pay systems (VISA, MC, etc.): not made in Canada
microchips: not made in Canada
Cars: not made in Canada expect a few plants in Ontario
Let’s go to job sector-
Construction jobs: not even relevant in Canada except the 3 major big cities
Scientist jobs: hardly a lot
Consultant positions: practically nonexistent. My professors from Europe would come for days and they got 30,000 pounds per visit.
Only good thing is Canadian healthcare which is funded by FDI from rich immigrants .
So why is Canada bringing in educated people from other places who study half their life until the age of 35 years?
If you want laborer to do service jobs like food delivery, clean toilets, bring in labor people from underdeveloped countries like many other countries do under a labor visa. These laborers will truly love Canada with all their hearts and be grateful forever. Don’t scam educated people with degree from prestigious universities to come to and do the jobs and not complain when falsely advertising doctor or scientist jobs where is barely any.
So, what is Canada best for? How come I find jobs in other parts of the world but not in Canada? How would Canada survive without the US beside it and yet Canadian’s whine about US? USA is a global leader and superpower (something Canada never will be with that colonial mindset)
I speak 4 languages with experience working for government. Why should I work in security or restaurant waiting for someone else to open doors for me? This is why USA is far ahead and better.
Canada is in blissful ignorance. Get a life and educate yourself to the reality of this world.
You are a whining and whinging infantile complainer that both believes that you are owed and entitled to certain things. You are not owed, or entitled to anything, in this country, or anywhere else.
“That is why USA is far ahead and better.” Pack your bags sport and try not to let the door hit you on your way out. As you say, “Get a life.” , unless whining, complaining, and gaming the system is your entire ‘woke’ life. Poor you. If life is so bad here, in this country, move. And take all of your friends, relatives, and fellow complainers with you. By the way, you should take the time to really listen to your foolish, boring, and tiresome self.
In the meantime, take some time off from your endless complaining to grow up, if that’s possible. Hopefully, I won’t be seeing you, or anyone like you anytime soon, because what a drag it would be to have to both see you and listen to your constant, endless whining and infantile crying. It is really painful and sad. So very sad. For you.
When will you pay back the monies to the immigrants who were lied and fooled into migrating to Canada? You can’t take their money and tell them to go back to where they came from: You are not being fair.
Another lame “wokester” confused know it all to the proverbial “rescue”. How timely!
“You are not being fair.” Really!! Physical existence itself is not fair. Never was. Open your eyes and have a real good look around. It has been that way for many ages. The determinism of the ‘genetic lottery’ is ample proof.
You happen to live, rightly or wrongly, in a global society that has decided to base itself upon the myth that is the maximization of individual “self (selfish) interest”, at any dog eat dog cost. If you were a so called winner in that game, you would not be on this board whining and complaining. You would be out celebrating and bragging to anyone and everyone about how marvelously gifted, talented, and clever you are at being so wonderfully rich and successful.
You haven’t answered my question. Instead you posted a rambling of nonsense.
First, avail yourself of an English as second language course, if you do not understand basic English.
Second, your question is answered in the concept of ‘due diligence’. You do your own ‘due diligence’, BEFORE making any major (and sometimes even minor) undertaking(s) in this life, if you are an adult. That is assuming that you are both an adult and are cognitively able to make such decisions. That is, you are not cognitively, or intellectually impaired. The fact that certain people may lack the adequate intellectual means to do so, means that, first they should not be making those decisions in the first place and second, if the resulting wrong decision is made because the individual did not perform the required due diligence , or the individual lacks adequate intelligence, or has not bothered to obtain all of the necessary information ect., then the resulting consequences based upon faulty assumptions and faulty decision making are of their own making and choosing. Was anyone coerced, or forced against their will to make a recent decision to migrate to Canada?
There are NO GUARANTEES in this life. NONE. ZERO. If you do not understand that very simple basic concept, you are either very naive, or very silly. Just because it is assumed that you or someone else has made a foolish mistake, or foolish mistakes, according to the amount of whining and crying on this thread, do not expect anyone else to accept responsibility for your own personal decisions. Adult individuals accept that they are responsible for their own decisions, the good ones and the bad ones. That is called being accountable to ONESELF. You are responsible for you and your decisions. Is that clear enough?
Further, the entire global economic system is based on exploitation, or advantage seeking, or maximizing individual self interest, of one type or another. As are most interactions between individuals. That observation is hardly original. The strong exploit the weak, the winners exploit and take advantage of the losers. It is what people want, because the losers have the dream of becoming winners one day and the winners seem to like things the way they are. In the meantime, keep chasing your piece of cheese, knowing that one day very soon (because earthly existence is very short) you will no longer exist and that the things that bother and trouble you now, will cease to do so, permanently.
OK Boomer.
oh really, not owed anything or entitled? really?? Canadian govt takes taxes cause they are entitled to. they really dont care what a person thinks. why do you get paid for a job? its not entitled. then quarrel over money. its precisely because you are entitled to.
its your philosphy in the west that everything needs to be earned. thats why you are struggling. in non west countries, people get jobs when they finish, get married in a timeframe, have kids at a certain age, retire at a certain age. they dont need to fight and earn everything.
Canada relies on a steady stream of middle class immigrants to fund the retirements of the crony capitalists, rentier slumlords and the Canadians reaching retirement age. It’s a Ponzi scheme.
There is no reason to be fooling over 400,000+ educated and middle class foreigners a year to bring money to migrate to Canada to work as toilet cleaners when there are millions of starving refugees who will be glad to leave their countries to better their lives.
Why does Canada need a steady supply of middle-class foreigners in emerging economies to live in Canada working at Tim Hortons and paying high rents for the privilege of living in a cold country, temperature and social wise?
Lots of educated Chinese and Indians migrated here and many left and found it to be a waste of time for their personal and career life. Canada lies to these educated foreigners who are making good money in their home countries, to have them come here to live a lower income and destitute life after their life savings are depleted?
Why are Canadians hostile to the idea of bringing in 500,000 poor and starving immigrants a year rather than educated Indians and Chinese?
Dally,
You are an idiot if you say strong exploit the weak. Come tell me at my home and your behind will be riddled with bullets. That European nonsense does not work here. Trump tried those stupid ideas too and will spend rest of his life fighting all kinds of lawsuits. Guns and laws are there so that strong do not exploit the weak. And Canada is not as free as you think. Canada must follow America because its prosperity depends on it.
These Old Stock Canadians want to sell a bill of goods to middle class foreigners and them force them to work dead-end factory jobs and general labour jobs.
Did anyone ask for your dumb suggestion. You better pack your bags and go somewhere shit like you looks good.
Are corrupt politicians and businessmen from India, etc to blame for promoting the scam? Like, buying dozens of GTA homes with ill-gotten gains, and then lying to Indians to migrate to Canada to work to pay the rent under coercion?
Alison Redford is a politician. She helped a third world government in South America to sign a contract which will exacerbate the oil curse, increasing the immigration to Canada. This is how Canada robs countries and destroys lives.
I would beg to differ. Canada did a service in return for another service even if the terms may appear worse. The US also robs, destroys lives, and exacerbates. To this day, they exercise their soft power with anyone who opposed their core principles. Brain drain was coined because of the mass migration to the US. Canada did something in their interest but so does every other country. Self interest isnt the problem. Rather the deceit to achieve it is.
Canada is part of NATO. It’s a vassal state of the US.
Whenever the US wants to invade and destroy “third world countries”, Canada sends some of their troops, like what is happening in Ukraine today.
Middle class Indians are smart people.
They just have to observe who works for minimum wage at dead-end jobs in warehouses and factories, where their every move is monitored for Managers who are mainly Canadians of a certain background. The Canadians get paid the real wages and get pensions, benefits and more rights than the immigrants.
Dr. Fakih, the owner of Paramount Foods is a hero for immigrants.
The man is a philantropist who helped stop bigots from preaching more hate against immigrants.
He sued a blogger for posting hate libel, and the bigot has to pay $2.5 million dollars in damages.
The blogger, Kevin Johnston, is known to have ties with other bigots, like the Markham bigot who yells “Yama Yama” to the faces of young brown people in Toronto.
Anyone who preaches hate against wealthy immigrants get sued or has to go in jail for hate crimes.
Canada is a scam and Ponzi scheme.
The Old Stock Canadians want immigrants to pay their mortgages and retirement, while voting for right wing causes to drive down wages and the standard of living.
I don’t believe it’s “Old Stock” Canadians who are 100% in this scam.
“International students” from India tell me that they were lied to migrate to Toronto, and they end up working in factories, and having to pay half of their earnings in rent for a room owned by a ” businessman”, “corrupt politician from India/Pakistan”, etc. It’s definitely a Ponzi scheme. There are twenty “international students” living in a nuclear- family sized homes in Brampton, paying half of their wages in rent.
I thought Canada was a tolerant country. Why are they that tolerant to allow Polish nationalists and Golden Dawn fascists to grow their roots in the most multi-cultural city in North America?
Next time, ask the Polish nationalist why did they leave Poland to live to Toronto, that is, if they don’t act violent.
Did you not take history or watch the news, plenty of documentaries. That country and its people have suffered for generations, they only got their independence, I believe in 1993.
Do not judge others, we are all products of what we have lived.
No wonder a million Canadians have left their birth country.
What do you think Canada was like before we let immigrants in???? We are too nice to accept ungratefulness. Read my previous post and start to educate yourself and others.
I do know a little bit about India’s history, a failed economy etc., we are not stupid dull Canadians that are uneducated to what is happening in the world. We are the first country in with relief, something to be proud of, it is the everyday civilian who is behind this not our government. This is why Canadians are loved all over the world, because of their generosity and their hearts. I have two neighbors who are Indian and they are the best along with one Pakistan . We are suffering from this economy also but we forge onward. Look at the crime we have had to suffer the last twenty five years from opening our doors up, do we really want this. Indian is a land of corruption and failed governments, did you expect Canada to be perfect? We lost our country also.
We will await your apology.
I am horrified at your expectations when most are fleeing for their lives, etc.
Cry me a river with that dog whistle of crime increasing because of “opening the borders for the last 25 years”. Many Canadian seniors are renting out their rooms to immigrants for $700 a month tax free to fund their retirement while hoarding Toronto homes to become richer. Canada is a scam.
Canada was letting Immigrants in since the invasion of the First Nations in the early 1600s. Your problem is that you want European immigrants such as the Polish skinhead to settle in Canada.
However, many white Europeans have no savings and rely on the Ponzi scheme of real estate bubbles to fund their retirements, just like Canada. This is where the generational wealth of the Asians are to be exploited by the lies of Canada.
It is the racist Canadians who are ungrateful for lying to educated and middle class non-whites to migrate to a country which gives them a worse outcome than if they stayed in their home countries.
It’s a cruel irony that Canada asks for upper middle class professionals to work as cleaners, factory workers and general labourers.
It sucks being conned by the immigration lawyers to work in dead-end factory jobs. The jobs don’t provide dental, vision or therapy benefits. Working like a paid slave to forfeit over 50% of your earnings to rent a cockroach apartment.
Better life for your children who will leave you to die alone in a retirement home or homeless after they become Canadianised, good luck to that. Children and dogs have more rights than adults in Canada. Fathers are marginalised by the corrupt police forces.
The Ramble Park incident in NYC was a Caucasian Canadian woman trying to get the NYPD to murder a member of the BIPOC and LGBT community by accusing him of harassing her. Canada is a HELL if you are not rich like the owners of Bell, Rogers, Bronfman and Loblaws.
My bf works through an agency at a factory for $15.25/hr, but he got injured and WSIB paid him for his chiropractor who charged ten times his wage, $165/hr to massage his broken back. Canadians get high wages, while the immigrants get peanuts.
Canada got racist and hateful Polish nationalists encouraging young white men to commit terror attacks against non-whites. The young man who ran over that Muslim family in London, ON was taught by a Polish nationalist.
Howd the job market for indian dentist in canada?
There are Medical doctors from India and Pakistan going back to high school, or working janitor or driver jobs.
Why? The medical profession is regulated and Canadian doctors do not want foreign competition.
The job market for Indian dentists is good, but you have to work as a cleaner, factory worker, janitor and drive taxis. Forget ever thinking of becoming a medical doctor in Canada unless they offer you a placement in a hospital like the NHS in the UK.
Taxpayer funded Toronto Police are enforcing COVID evictions on tenants on behalf of private landlords. Canada is becoming a police state.
The job market is bad for employees. Applicants are begging to work for lower than the national wage because they can’t find a job, especially in Toronto.
The Polish nationalist gets paid on average $16-25 per hour because they mainly work in the trades, with sole proprietors of their own background, thus, higher pay and more demand for skilled trades.
while newcomers from Asia get paid $14/hr because of the job market and unfair labour standards working for systemically racist Canadian corporations.
Yet the Polish nationalist allege that Asian immigrants take away jobs, or they end up on welfare, or they both take away jobs, end up on welfare, and join Islamic extremist groups because they are brown. To hell with Poland.
Isn’t it irony that educated and well-off immigrants migrate to Canada to live like second class citizens, and work like animals? Factories treat non-white people like animals, even worse. Canadians love animals, but treat immigrants at factories worse than a stray dog.
Canadianer, why did Alison Redford go to Ghana and rob the people of their oil?
Canadianer must have gotten his comment in moderation, for posting a racist Polish nationalist response, or like any pale Canadian, refuse to answer questions which expose their hypocrisy.
Canadians go to Muslim cities in the oil-rich Middle East to take the jobs from the Arabs.
Canadians have politicians like Alison Redford who rob the poor citizens in poor 3rd world countries of their resources, such as the Ghana oil contract.
Canadian Boomers have become rich due to mass immigration increasing demand for their termite-infested plyboard houses that were bought for a years’ salary working in a unionized factory. Boomers dislike unions today!
You are obviously a no-brain hill-billy. Saudi Arabia is a right wing nationalist country that is even worse than Poland. They only allow temporary foreign workers. The fact that you don’t know that is just evidence that you are all a bunch of uneducated crybabies. Try getting an education so that you don’t have to emigrate to countries to live among people that you hate.
I could care less about that backwards, and medieval country that the Europeans have propped up using OPEC and oil purchases.
No one cares if you care or not. The world is moving just fine without you. canada is worse than them. Hiding behind the achievements of others and thinking it is developed. Turns out expats are coming over and taking over Canada
Educated migrants come to Canada to clean toilets, and Canadians tell those immigrants that it’s part of adjusting to a new life in a new country.
Alison Redford should be cleaning toilets and doing factory jobs in Ghana, but no, like white Canadians, they get the best jobs anywhere in the world while treating the citizens of those countries as illiterates.
I usually never comment on any stories I write but probably this is my first time. I didn’t read all the years and years of comments but its a nice mix. Being an immigrant with family myself, I would like to talk about my experience after and ready for any rude comments.
First of all, I don’t think any country can be paradise until you are born powerful/rich/lucky or you work like crazy. But then again, if you work hard why would you call the country paradise its your hard work. I am not gonna give specifics because your comment will hurt me bad.
I immigrated with my spouse decades ago. We used to be very successful back home in high technical expertise position. My spouse was extremely interested in furthering education so we immigrated to Canada because we didn’t have that opportunity back home. We came here. Even with CGPA 3.95/4.00 and IELTS score of 8.0(my spouse’s English is really good) in double bachelors and multiple hundreds applications and networking . Still not got education opportunities and jobs in the fields. Trust me we have spent a lot in help in job recruitment.
Working small jobs and getting hopeless more and more have been our norm. I know a rejection in job application is ok but when you are rejected for years and years, you feel like something is wrong with you. It’s extremely depressing.
Canada is discriminatory towards educated immigrants. Canada is only good for those who are non-entities in their home countries and have nothing to lose by migrating such as war victims and oppressed minority groups. Educated immigrants suffer terribly in Canada.
What is wrong with you people? Just about every doctor I have is a landed immigrant. Get real here, McMaster only had 160 spots opened up this year to become a doctor with only 10% woman. Now tell me what you are complaining about.???
Hamilton Health Services allows them to get their residencies here and believe me they do not what to return to the homelands. I worked for a company years ago and just about every born Canadian had a university degree with no job, so they took a job in the factory. This nonsense you speak of was an issue her twenty five years ago, long be before you arrived here. The immigrants only made this problem worse. Get the facts and ask some questions before you open your mouths. Educate yourselves before you talk nonsense. Too angry to say more. Maybe volunteering would open your eyes.
Quit posting racist dog whistles. Immigrants were lied to migrate to Canada to work as general labourers to enrich the Old Stock Canadian retirements.
How will your tenant working for free pay for your retirement?
Yes you are right. It is depressing. I used to write supportive comments here till i did my Phd from UK. Now i just write the worst here. Canadians are self entitled and rightous in their mind. This makes them arroagent and they already are ignorant. They have no understanding of life complexities or any ambition of pushing their boundaries.
I only got security job. I cant sustain myself with the huge debt i have from studies.Seems like UK and USA knows how to respect talent and i hope i can move out of this country. There is no future here for ambitious people.
Canada welcomed educated migrants to work like animals. Racist Americans treat Mexican refugees better than how Canada treated educated immigrants who came to Canada with money, hopes and dreams of a better future. Imagine a white Canadian lady yelling at you in the warehouse after you complained that a co-worker got crushed to death by faulty machinery. Yet, the company is anonymous and the owners are anonymous and the establishment wants to shut you down for speaking up. This is Canada.
Disturbing. All of these experiences collectively are abominable and human rights violations, abuse and fatal outcomes should face the brunt of the law. I could not stay in such toxicity as mental health problems in this country continue to soar and multiply.
Don’t forget that therapy is not funded by the government, and the factory worker has to pay a lot, like $200/hr to talk to a Canadian-born therapist who will get the police to monitor the immigrants for wrong speech.
If Canada views foreign work experience and education as inferior, then why did Alison Redford go to Ghana and rob the Ghana people of their oil? Why didn’t Ghana hire their own experts to negotiate with the ExxonMobil companies? This is what I don’t get with Canadians. Alison Redford, a white Canadian went to a third world country to shaft them of the oil contract.
Ghana and many others dont know the real truth. Survey in some third world countries revealed that people think canada is lined with golden lamps and temples. They think Canada is high tech country and try to come here. Sadly, once they come, they realise. I have many friends in Jordan and Egypt who are doctors and want to come to Canada. I told them the truth.
People unknowingly invite Canadians thinking they are highly educated but now people are starting to wake up.
I would not even recommend your Middle Eastern doctor friends to migrate to Europe unless they are Christians and don’t look like the scapegoat of the far right movements.
Canada isn’t as terrible as France and Europe, but educated immigrants are discriminated.
Why not send them to Saudi arabia? The answer is thr brown muslim rich world doesnt want you. Neither does india or china. Why are Europeans bad for not wanting them?
Why do white people assume that I was talking about Saudi Arabia?
Do you know that Saudi Arabia buys military vehicles from Canada?
You are hypocrites man.
Why are NATO countries destroying the Middle East and robbing Africa of their resources, like Alison Redford did to the Ghanians and the oil contracts?
Why do Canadians expat in Dubai, Doha, Riyadh and other Muslim cities?
Europeans invaded and colonized brown and black countries.
Canada LIES to foreigners to migrate and study in Canada.
I don’t see Saudi Arabia colonizing or advertising to migrate to their countries!
Yet Canadians are in Saudi Arabia and are bringing the Canadian lifestyle to the Middle East and not respecting the laws of the Middle East!
HYPOCRITE!
Because you ignorant person, educate yourself. The western country shows off their freedom and right like they are the only ones. Saudi or india or china doesnt do that. So we dont expect it from them. Canada puts ad for doctors and so on. If you put immigration ads for new opportunities, then its ok. Canada doesnt. Therefore, based on a lie statement, they are liers and scammers. Would someone who is highly educated want to do low level jobs? To answer this question, think this. Would you go back to high school when you already finished college?
The Polish nationalist and Hungary xenophobia is typical of the average bigoted Canadian. They are hypocrites to lie to immigrants to come to Canada, and then tell those immigrants that they should go to Saudi Arabia for jobs.
Countries like Saudi and Qatar should enforce their ancient laws on Canadians who violate the country’s laws. Many Canadians are making more money in Qatar than they did in Canada, yet Canadians want to walk nude on the streets of Arabia.
@Canadinier. Saudi and India etc. do not have open immigration policies, Europe does. So, Europe has to be kinder. The thing is, Europe is full of hypocrites, they really are third-world countries, but they want to call themselves developed for appeasement of their own ego. China, India, and Saudis do not do that. They are much honest. Europe will advertise that it is a welcoming society just to look good. When people believe it and immigrate then they say why did you come here. Well, they should know the answer. When China asked US Navy why are you sailing in the South China Sea, the US Navy’s answer was: We sail wherever international law allows us to sail. So Europe and Canada should know that an immigrant will go to any country where the law allows them to go. If you don’t like it then change the law and admit that you are a third world country! You cannot have an open immigration law and then say that people should not immigrate. Honesty is what people are asking for here.
Parag, the hypocrisy from bigoted Europeans is astounding. They lie to foreigners to migrate, and then when the immigrants end up wasting their life savings, the bigots tell the immigrants to go back to where they came from. Many Indian immigrants come to Canada with millions of dollars, only to be treated worse than refugees.
The major issue with the bigots is that they depend on mass immigration to boost their retirement funds, stocks, and house prices. What a way to treat immigrants by lying to them to spend their riches in Canada and then be treated as refugees.
Asian Doctors have better prospects in UK than canada ,atleast britishers have a fairer system of evaluating foreign medical credentials unlike CANADA where foreign doctors are being professionally handicapped by several regulations and bureaucratic barriers.
The NHS has less barriers to entry, but in Canada, you could be the #1 world surgeon in Thailand or India, and the receptionist will view that Medical Doctor as an illiterate caveman from the prehistoric era.
Canada is a scam. The population is being controled with population control measures like feminism, anti-male laws and a police force which treats men who are accused of offending women worse than Bin Laden bringing down 100 storey towers in the downtown core.
You have a point, despite the hyperbole conspiracy jargon.
Canada has very low birth rates, and they require new fools to prevent the Ponzi scheme economy from going into decay. Birth rates will always be the same, or decline, because for every immigrant who gets caught up, there is a new fool landing in Toronto.
Canada erases vital information on police corruption and political scandals on Wikipedia. Even Wikipedia does not believe that Canada had only one incident of police corruption.
What are the job prospects in smaller cities like halifax,alberta.Is it better than vancouver and toronto?But i know for sure that saskatchewan is too cold to settle for a family
If you’re not white, be prepared to be treated like trash. The police don’t do anything unless a racist commits a mass murder. Non-white lives have no value in Canada. If you talk back to the mass shooter as he murders your entire family, YOU get charged for hurting the feelings of the white person.
The unspoken rule is that 99.9% of immigrants end up living in the three big cities of Toronto, Vancouver or Montreal. This is “Canada”. It’s a grid of hardship and indentured labourers. At least the indentured Indian labourers who worked in Africa and the Caribbean had free housing and lived in warm climates. Canadian weather can cause death during winter. Frostbite. Hypothermia. Heart attacks by heat stroke and wind chills.
The land of broken dreams.
I was told a lie. How my work experience and education would translate to a job in my field.
Ten years later, I can’t find a job in my field. I am penniless and don’t have money in the bank right now.
I am one pay cheque away from homelessness.
Why did I move here?
This country is not what it seems. The rankings and freedom indices are all fake. If you live in a city like Toronto, where many immigrants are stuck in, you will live to experience the crime, police corruption and inequality that would make third world dictatorships blush. You can die of frostbite and the cold weather here.
Living as an upper class in a third world country is way better than being the working poor in an extremely cold country like Canada where you are treated as a second class citizen.
Don’t let the Polish or Hungarian nationalist let you down. Avoid Polish nationalist ghettos like Etobicoke, Islington and Royal York area of Toronto.
Poland and Hungary are going to be expelled from the EU, and this means that Poland and Hungary will have to adapt from being a parasite to being tolerant in a globalized market.
The population of Poland and Hungary are declining and this should be a cause of celebration if this means less Polish nationalist garbage causing racism in Toronto.
The Polish nationalist speaks a uncivilized language not from any world empire, yet they demand that Canada accomodate their foul language while dissing the Indian immigrant whose English is more British than the King’s tongue.
Countries like India, China, Thailand and other ASEAN countries have higher GDP growth than Canada.
Canada lies to the successful and middle class in those countries to dump their money into the scam called Canada.
The job market is discriminatory towards foreign credentials. Don’t believe the snake oil salesman masquerading as an immigration consultant. Read the case law of Selladurai Premakumaran, a British-educated accounting professor who had to shovel snow and clean toilets. It’s a life that you don’t want for yourself and your family.
Canadian schools treat men of ASEAN origin like criminals. When your son gets bullied or abused by a student or teacher, the school boards cover up the story and they sometimes send police to arrest the parent and their lawyers when they are considering legal action, by false flag accusations of trespassing (setting up innocent people and framing them for vandalism or damage to school property).
If you think India is corrupt in terms of the police, you should migrate to Canada and live to experience the laws which protect the pales. The situation in Syria doesn’t help, because you could be as brown and highly educated wearing suit and tie, but the Canadians will assume that you’re a returning ISIS combatant.
THINK VERY HARD before coming to Canada to destroy your life.
Your comments on modest GDP growth are accurate. The economy is attempting to make a transition to being knowledge based. There is some displacement of traditional employment, and “traditional” work, such as manufacturing, etc. is scarce.
Credentials are often not accepted, or require upskilling or examinations. There are also challenges in entering the labour market. Even if the hiring manager has good intentions and is not racist, he or she may be more willing to bring someone on who has been recommended by a close, trusted contact.
If you are entrepreneurial and can enter into a field that is primarily based on your skills as opposed to credentialing (e.g. you have homebuilding/renovations skills, can run a business, sell, etc), that will make it easier. If you rely on credentials, understand that there will be *two* hurdles -acceptance of those credentials plus entry into a crowded market where there may be a lot of competition
Your comment is good for someone who doesn’t have that much to lose for immigrating (i.e. young people), but for the target market of the immigration scammers (middle aged, land-owning and asset bearing professionals)…Why leave their lives of comfort to clean toilets in Toronto? Are East Indians that brainwashed to worship the white culture? You got physicians from India who sold their houses at below market prices to rent cockroach apartment in Toronto.
If you’re educated with a decade of work experience, and you are not offered a promotion in a Canadian company before migrating, I advise that you don’t come. You will be trapped and have to work dead-end jobs.
There are horror stories of high caste merchant class men from India cleaning toilets and shoveling snow, despite studying for Canadian education with their own money that they brought from India. Toronto is a scam.
America has more non-white millionaires and billionaires per capita than Canada. The Indian physician cleans toilets or drives a taxi cab in Toronto. Beware!
Canada it’s not a fool’s paradise but a realist’s hell. My biggest mistake was not saving money from day one to leave this police state called Toronto.
Trust me on this.
The system in Canada is becoming prejudicial towards the educated immigrant.
There are tons of stories where educated middle class immigrants, mainly educated Indian and Middle Eastern men being treated like criminals because the pales do not like them at the workplace.
The city of Toronto is becoming a city for the rich and indentured poor class. Those who have no problem working in menial jobs for the rich class living in Toronto.
If you’re an educated young man, and you want to save your life, DON’T come to Canada, especially in Toronto. This country is a police state and they protect the white lady, just like the Queen of England is the Head of State of Canada, not Justin Trudeau.
Why do you guys move to British colonies if the Queen offends you? India and Nigeria and China are all rising countries that immigrants are moving to nowadays and they don’t have to worry about the Queen of England. Why not pick a country that suits you better?
This is exactly what I do not like with Canada and Canadians. They have a wrong system and if someone says so, then they question why do you question our system? Well, just because something is wrong does not mean that it cannot be fixed. That’s why Canada should have a constitutional amendment and throw the queen out because having the queen in place creates a system of institutional discrimination. If immigrants have a problem with it, then it is not wrong. Many immigrant Canadian citizens have a problem with that and those who say that this is OK are racists. If they are not then they should be able to logically justify this inherent class-based or kiss a** Canadian set-up. The same thing applies to the UK as well. Canadians are the biggest hypocrites when they say they value human rights or even they are a developed nation. Canada is a dump. It is a good place to visit but within a week, a person starts to get sick of Canadian society and its hubris.
Canada is the only country in the world where an Indian with a MD or Phd is forced to clean toilets for a living, while Canadians defend it as protecting jobs and the health care system. As if the UK NHS doesn’t import migrant doctors and train them for a few years while they work in their field, albeit a lower job title.
Parag, Toronto is the epitome of British-Queen Elizabeth wannbe-ism. They are mimicking Drake’s fake British accent, though his record label in the USA probably taught him to use that role to make money.
The entire problem with Canada is that racism is hush-hush, while in the USA, racism topics are allowed for debate, even when there is a “Canadian” like Trump to preach hate.
It is an insult that hard working Indian migrants are forced to clean toilets and serve coffee at Tim Hortons, despite having work experience and education that is equivalent to that of a Phd or Medical Doctor. the system is stacked against the immigrant, and these days, it’s worse because house prices and overpopulation in Toronto are a burden. There are 3.1 million people in Toronto today compared to 2.5 ten years ago.
Damn.
you cherrypicked three words from an entire comment. Fail. The Queen is a representative of racism, but not the only problem.
The problem is that the Canadian immigration system is a scam that robs middle class migrants of their savings and assets to live in a dump of Toronto.
Look here! A wannabe Polish or Hungarian nationalist filth!
Canada LIES to foreigners to immigrate to Canada!
Foreign embassies tell Indians that Canada is the land of milk and honey, and that the Canadian women are willing to marry Indians, which is propaganda to entice Indian men to find a marriage partner in a country which is populated by women who are not like those of the Far East.
Canada doesn’t advertise to immigrants that the Queen of England is the head of state. Why did the British murder millions of Aboriginals during the exploration of the New World?
To be honest, even a Canadian-born doesn’t take note that there is a Crown as Head of State until mostly Torontonians start mimicking Drake and his fake British accent to ride on the wave of UK drill music.
The Polish or Canadian nationalist benefit from the EU and mass immigration housing demand respectively.
Canadianer is acting hypocritical and his comments attempt to gaslight immigrants down on their luck by the racist Polish-Canadian nationalist. Many Eastern European countries transformed into riches because of living off the backs of the EU countries like the UK and Germany, countries which accept migrants and immigrant education.
I dont know when will the obsession for vancouver and toronto among the immigrants will end.Both are overrated and very expensive cities to settle,but indians and other third world immigrants are desperate to move to any north american city.They dont realize that snakeoil salesman aka immigration consultants have created a trap for all of them.Even to get 40000 dollar/annum jobs, is very difficult for any non white immigrant in the above mentioned cities.
Canada is less freer than India for a middle class man. It’s common for brown and black men to get harassed by police for disputes with white females. There is no legal recourse for obtaining justice because this is how it goes:
A Pale Canadian lady is racist towards browns and blacks at her workplace. She harasses brown men because she can’t get away with being racist towards black people due to the history of slavery and the civil rights movement.
Mr. Prem Kumar is being accused of either 1)harassment, 2) sexual harassment or 3) any other bogus crime
The police are called, but most likely Toronto Police, York Region Police and Durham Regional Police are the most involved.
Mr. Prem Kumar is warned that if the Canadian lady does not like him, he can be arrested for those charges.
Mr. Prem Kumar tries to get a civil action to sue, etc.
Toronto Police go with guns and tasers to Mr. Prem Kumar’s home, arrest him, and intimidate his wife and children.
Mr. Prem Kumar is forced to go on a peace bond, and he can’t sue the police because no lawyer will take on his case due to the peace bond.
Mr. Prem Kumar was a physician in India, and now, he’s in jail because of a Canadian lady.
Definitely it seems australia has better prospect for immigrants,even though they are racist as these toxic feminism is not in their society and their lawbooks,You cant sleep on roads in canada of you become jobless due to extreme subzero temperature.
Canadians expect Indian physicians to clean toilets and pay $2500 a month to rent cockroach apartment in Toronto.
Toronto Police are corrupt and the provincial police are racist and side with whites.
The Polish lady was released on bail, and she might get away with a fine of less than $500 for “vandalism”, rather than the directed hate crime against the African-American victim. Such a shame that the bigoted Polish nationalist can get away with harassing non-whites, while a non-white would probably get beaten to death by the TTC police for being merely accused of not paying the fare. There must be change. You can’t have Polish nationalists yelling the n-word on black people and destroying property by writing racial slurs in the subway.
Poland and Hungary are so racist that if a meteor landed to extinct those racist countries the world will be a better place. For once, the Polish nationalist in Toronto will no longer assume that the educated Indian-Canadian CEO or entrepreneur is a Muslim refugee from North Africa. TThe EU should expel Poland and Hungary from the EU bloc, and ban Polish nationalist and Hungarians from taking jobs away in the EU.
Wow speaking of Polish nationalism, a lady from Poland hurled racist abuse and then wrote a hate crime in the TTC subway. What’s with these Polish nationalists thinking that they can immigrate to Canada and cause racial tensions.
Haha. It is not Polish. It is European entitlement and Christianity in Europe where rich are supposed to redistribute their wealth to take care of the poor. Canada, like it or not, has Capitalist tendencies of America but still considers itself European. So these Polish guys come to Canada thinking that Canada is going to consider their skin color and religion to give preference over other immigrants, but are rudely awakened to find out that it does not necessarily work the way they want. So these Polish guys have to bust their back ends just like most other immigrants and they are also as frustrated as other immigrants with the only difference is that they are not as educated as other “express entry” immigrants. Also, like almost every person in Canada, they also see that they will never get rich and there life is not much better than what it would be in Poland. So, they blame other immigrants in part due to envy and in part due to their own upbringing where they thought that whites are better. Canada is a struggling economy and these incidents will only make those struggles worse. Changes in America will almost ensure that Canada will also end up changing sooner or later. First, Trump needs to go as he is the one who has encouraged such behavior all over the world.
They allege that the Polish lady is a beneficiary of a Toronto habitat for humanity program i.e. a program that provides low cost housing for single mothers. The Polish nationalists and Trump believe that every non-white person is a freeloader, while the racist Polish woman is more likely to be a welfare and non-profit recipient.
UPDATE: The lady was arrested, but the police and media refuse to release her identity, and they did not charge her with a hate crime despite yelling the n-word and writing the word to harass a Black lady.
Doctors and Bank Managers from India and Pakistan are cleaning public toilets and working in factories, while being lumped together with refugees and sometimes violently assaulted by bigots. The Canadian dream is over. The Canadian immigration system is a scam. They just want your money while yelling racial slurs to your face.
Then why still these indian and paki immigrants are desperate to go to canada and settle down with their families,inspite of the fact that they all have to struggle for years to earn a respective income.
Because India is a hopelessly populated and polluted country. There is nothing wrong with coming to Canada with poor education and skills and working as a cab driver or truck driver for the rest of your life. Many people in Panjab may sell their lands and work this way and be happy. It seems you have not read the posts carefully. It is people who are professionals, who have education and high paying jobs in their home countries that are complaining because they thought that Canada has many professional jobs. This is what immigration websites were advertising. IF you are a medical doctor who wants to come to Canada and work as a medical doctor then that is a problem. However, if you want to drive a cab after working as a medical doctor in India for many years then Welcome to Canada! The choice is yours as long as you come in knowing what you will be getting. The problem with a lot of immigrants is that they think it will not happen to us because we are special. Unfortunately, that assumption will fall flat in their face once they know how many “special” immigrants they will be competing with for minimum wage jobs. This is what scams are. They sell your dreams of better future and separate you from your money today.
Exactly. The problems in India are forcing many minority groups to flee at any measure, because it’s better to drive a truck or clean toilets in Canada than to be massacred by religious and cultural zealots back in Asia. However, educated and middle class immigrants are being lured into the trap, and this is what is the problem. A doctor in India who is treated like a diplomat would be rightfully angry being lured into Canada to clean toilets and become victims of hate crimes by uneducated bigots from Europe.
Canada was never a favorite destination for high end professionals like doctors,engineers and scientists.Guys from punjab and middle east who were interested in earning quick bucks by doing plumbing,carpenter and masonry work,found canada an attractive proposition.Canada invites immigrants just to fill its vast frozen landmass,they are never bothered if any immigrant gets a suitable job or not.What they care is to fill their coffers from the tax payers money,specially the cunning canadian government!
Ashu but many doctors, engineers and scientists from abroad are fooled into coming to Canada.
The Canadian government lies to foreigners that their credentials will be accepted as easily as the UK or America. Doctors in Canada have unions which exclude competition from foreign-trained professionals.
There was a story lately of a Polish nationalist wannabe in Houston who followed an Ecuadorian American couple and then tried to murder them with a hammer while yelling “Go back to Mexico”.
The plot twist: The “Mexicans” were medical doctors and the police had to arrest the racist white lady.
The twist will never end there. She will not get her green card because of her record and will certainly be denied US citizenship if she already has a green card. If convicted then her green card could be potentially be revoked. Even if she survives green card revoking and gets to keep her green card, she ain’t getting any respectable job in future due to background checks in most jobs. She will remain poor for life. Welcome to America where you get what you deserve.
The story shows how important one has to get a respectable job to be protected from the uneducated racists. However, in Canada, they bring in all sorts of trash from Europe who bring the racist garbage with them. Toronto has not suffered any problems with refugees for decades, but Poland and Hungary’s nationalist movements are emboldening racists to victimize non-whites in Toronto. Lots of racism lately.
Actually, it is more than that. In Canada like in India, taxes are taken to central location and redistributed so law enforcement does not worry about taxpayers security. In the USA, taxes are collected and used locally. If rich people leave a place due to racism then local police has to cut jobs. As a result, local police takes quick action against anyone who creates problems because their own salaries depend on attracting rich people to their locations. To some extent, the black lives matter problem is also associated with such structure. Law enforcement officers are incentivized to drive out poor blacks and any other trouble makers because they do not contribute towards taxes. The law enforcement offiers can bully blacks to drive them out. This is what people mean by systemic racism. The issues of Capitalism and racism are very intertwined.
At least America respects those who have good jobs. In Canada, one could be a doctor or a Bay Street lawyer, but if they are non-white, they are treated as refugees.
Parag, in Canada and the UK, most Polish and Hungarians are leeches to the system. However, a racist Polish or Hungarian is treated with more respect than an educated Indian businessman or businesswoman whose net worth is in the millions of dollars. Canada is weird in that extent.
Toronto is a scam because they purposely restrict housing supply and lie about jobs to create an underclass of low wage workers competing for high rents. The winner of this scam are the landlords, realtor agents and the lawyers.
BEWARE!
Toronto’s rents are C$1,900 for a family sized apartment, but the monthly wage for the average migrant worker is C$2,000 a month before taxes.
Canadians are told to stay at home, but suddenly, they are forced to work because the government doesn’t have any more money to pay Canadians to stay home. Thousands of businesses have closed, and many more have lost their jobs for refusing to work in a pandemic where there is no health protocol (like in hospitals).
Anti-immigrant hostility might increase. The plan is for the government and the millionaires to increase the immigration quotas to use the migrants as scapegoats for the economic problems.
Now the situation will be more grim after this corona crisis as there will be more layoffs, and the economy will be crippled for a long time,atleast for one year.Immigrants will be the most affected as they will not get any full time job.
Most immigrants were not getting the middle class jobs in the first place. There will always be demand for janitors, cleaners, factory workers and other unskilled labour. This time, Canadians will fight for those low wage jobs because there are no more middle class jobs.
Is it true that corona virus scare will lead to racial profiling of chinese and indians in future in canada?
No thats ridiculus. it can happen anywhere. and why indians?
Hate crimes against Chinese and Asians have increased, but dare complain that European settlers deliberately spread smallpox to reduce the Native Indian population, and one can get violently assaulted.
Polish nationalists and their wives are harassing black people in Toronto by yelling the n-word to them and writing the n-word slur to victimize non-whites. The Polish nationalist believes that Toronto is for his people only, which is why there are so many hate crimes occuring in Toronto lately. These hate crimes are done by Polish and European immigrants, and Canadians are less likely to do brazen acts of hatred. They would post crap online, but the Polish nationalist is harassing non-whites in Toronto.
This website if full of glitches and spam,sometimes we cant see the content or sometimes we cant post comments on it
Sometimes the website gets taken down when someone speaks the truth of the scam that foreign immigrants are being told using lies and deception. No one wants to leave their middle and upper class lifestyles to shovel snow for minimum wage in Canada.
Leave your good job in India or UAE and come to Canada with your money to spend it on rent and work for free or clean factories and toilets!
I’m reading a message board and there is a racist man who confronts “brown” immigrants and yells “Yama Yama” to their faces and he once tried to sexually assault a Muslim woman for wearing her religious attire.
Why are bigoted Canadians assuming that Hinduism is the same as Islam? One poster asked.
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I believe that this man is a member of the Yellow Vests or Northern Guard white supremacist movement.
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My comment: It does appear that the Polish nationalist have influenced Canadians to hate on “brown” immigrants. It’s terrible that the Polish nationalist is turning Toronto into a far-right Warsaw.
Shame!
Imagine going to work in your minimum wage job and the “Yama Yama” man accosts you and tries to assault your wife because she is brown? But if you dare beat him up, off to jail you go, and the landlord evicts you for not paying your rent in time.
I sense a potential civil unrest brewing in Toronto. No one harasses people that way by yelling to their faces, mocking their beliefs, and lumping hardworking Indian immigrants with Arab refugees. The Polish nationalist is trying very hard to foment hate against immigrants in Canada.
You had that Ravi dude who got reprimanded for posting anti-Muslim content on social media. It’s confusing that brown people are racist against other brown people.
Canadian immigration consultants should also stop fooling foreign nationals that they will automatically get a job in their fields, especially for unionized jobs.
Canadian workers don’t pay union dues for even a new local graduate to take away their jobs. What makes you think that they will let a foreigner automatically get a job in the field?
The Canadian immigration lawyers should stop lying to foreigners and ruining their lives.
There are millions of professionals in India & Pakistan who were told that they would automatically get jobs in their fields if they come to Canada. Racism aside, the unions and labour organizations are there to protect their union members. This is a fact.
The UK is only good for financial professionals and doctors, as far as I’ve heard. For anyone else who doesn’t secure a lucrative London job, the UK is a hell hole.
The man should start applying for NHS residency, but under no circumstance become like the millions of fools and severe ties with his home country to end up sleeping on the streets of London or Toronto.
If his skills are need, and they are hiring him, he should consider that he has to return to his homeland, rather than invest everything in those countries and end up with no escape plan.
Working in the NHS is good-paying for now, but I know for fact in Canada that medical doctors are regulated more sternly than the US or UK and they will never let a foreign doctor “work” in Canada as a doctor unless he or she “pays their dues”. It’s not as simple as completing forms. The Canadian medical union is there to protect local doctors.
The Pakistani physician would be a fool to believe that he will get a job instantly as a doctor in Canada, or even the UK, just like that. Local doctors don’t pay tens of thousands of dollars in union fees a year for nothing.
He has to apply using a UK address of his family member or friend, and see where that goes. If he is accepted to be trained in UK or if he is lucky, in Canada, good news, but he shouldn’t sever ties with Pakistan and end up spending everything in London or Toronto.
UK is another example of failed socialist state,its a welfare state which sucks out taxes from the rich and gives to all the drug addicts and low life parasites,you can never become rich unlike capitalist america.
It’s the rich who get tax breaks, while they create housing bubbles and create mass homelessness.
So what happens when Megan Markel and Prince Harry come to Canada and start living there? Do Canadian tax payers have to foot their bills? The UK is pretty bad as far as racism is concerned. It is a cess pool both economically and socially.
The area where they plan to live will skyrocket in price.
Rent prices in Canada are way higher overall than in the USA, yet university graduates are competing for jobs that are unpaid internships.
There is something wrong with Canada. The land prices and housing prices are way high compared to population and land mass. Might as well redraw the Canadian map and exclude 99% of the frozen landmass as Canada.
3.5 million people call Toronto home, and this doesn’t even count the million temporary migrant workers and 500,000 foreign students who study on campus. It’s an overpopulated dump.
Apart from vancouver ,toronto,ottawa and montreal rest of the canada is a frozen wasteland.Canada should completely stop immigration for time being as its infrastructure is crumbling day by day and housing is becoming more unaffordable. Plus lot of chinese have inflated the property prices by pumping black money into canadian real estate
Local Canadians are happy that foreign monies, whether it be legal or illegal funds, are being spent in Canada, but if you’re a Brown or Black professional immigrant wearing a suit and tie, they will accuse you of being a refugee or from a terrorist movement and also believe that they have every right to harass and attack you.
Canada is starting to emulate the racist nastiness from far Europe and this is one reason why professional migrants should NOT come to Canada, because who wants to be treated as a refugee when they are a professional and skilled immigrant?
UK is a welfare state,you cant be rich.i know few guys who under the pretext of higher education worked in UK pubs and lived in ratholes aka sharing rooms to control their expenses,but still when they sent money to india,they seem to be affluent in the eyes of their relatives, as pound has much greater value than INR.But thats it,there is no demand for highly skilled jobs and the salary they pay in UK is just peanuts.Actually all these socialist countries carry a burden of giving free healthcare and unemployment allowance,hence they deduct taxes from working professionals and give most of it to all those free loaders just like canada.I know one dentist who was offered job in NHS for 40000 pounds(almost 40 lakhs INR when converted to indian currency),all these money seemed to appear peanuts for him after he started earning,as tax deduction is aweful both in UK and canada.He was living paycheque to paycheque and returned to india after one year.Both uk and australia are worse for highly ambitious professionals like engineers architects and STEM field experts,USA is much ahead regarding opportunities in tech field.Still all these freeloaders always heap praises for UK and australia by giving examples of free healthcare and no guns,but deep down in their heart they know they are jealous of americans…..
You don’t understand colonialism.
In either case, whether it’s robbing the developing countries of their resources and talent, or conning citizens of developing countries to come to Canada or UK and live like serfs, the rulers win in any case.
I am a pakistani dentist,who wants to settle in canada.is it a wise decision to settle in canada ,or should Itry for UK?
You’re going to have a hard time becoming a dentist, or even work as a dental assistant in Canada. You will even have trouble finding a job cleaning toilets at dental offices.
Beware of this place! There is also anti-Muslim hostility which affects even the Indian Hindus who are mistaken as Muslims.
You could try applying to the NHS in the UK to see if you can work as a dentist in the UK, but in Canada, they will force you to do Grade 12 and complete years of schooling, but they wouldn’t let you work as a doctor.
I even heard of a story of a Pakistani Medical Physician who changed his major to a 2-year diploma because he wasn’t getting through with becoming a doctor in Canada unless he paid over $100,000 in tuition to redo medical school and apply for residency.
I lived in Canada for SEVEN years, completed my high school diploma at age 22, started university at 23, graduated at 28, and now I’m still an unemployed person in $35,000 student loan debt. If it weren’t for my relatives living in Brampton, I would be homeless.
Beware!
It’s the system. You have to work for free for a year, and the employer MIGHT consider hiring you as a full time wage slave. You heard me—Canadian university graduates are competing to work for free, while the Canadian racist sells his house for a million dollars and retire in Asia or Guatemala, but has a Grade 8 education. Canada is a weird country…
2020 is around the corner and this is the difference when immigrating now in major cities such as Toronto:
Expressed at past & today’s dollars
Rent: 1990- $350 ($600)
2000- $600 ($870)
2010-$900 ($1,300)
2020-$1,850 ($1,850)
It’s the same old cockroach apartment, but rent for a one-bedroom 30 years ago was almost 4 times less to rent than today.
but the salary is stagnant and overall no growth in annual increments
CRS score for canadian express entry is now hovering about 470,few months down the line canada will be a difficult country to immigrate like USA,as many immigrants with hi tech degrees are entering canada and creating competetive job market
Canada’s cronies know what they are doing: They are enticing middle and educated foreigners to migrate to Canada and become applicants for general labour jobs and clean public toilets.
Three rape accused were killed in an encounter today by hyderabad police,maybe one of the reason was of political pressure, the other were from several women organizations ,who were using hashtags like toxic males,all males are potential rapist and toxic masculinity should be eradicated.I shudder with fear because many of these women NGOS are funded by bilderberg club and influenced by severe feminine tilted laws prevalent in canada and north america.Feminism will definitely be a major issue for indian males in upcoming years as girls and women are influenced by pseudo women empowerment in canada and other western countries.Encounter and mob justice is never a answer but using these rape incidents to tilt laws in favour of women is certain lethal for any civilized society.
It might be legal in India for females to walk nude in public, just like in Canada.
On other blogs, they post success stories of immigrants.
But highlighting only five success stories, the median being a Bank Manager at RBC working for C$93,500 a year, within a 10 year period of immigration, is like winning the lottery.
There is also an Afghanistan immigrant who had “success” finding a $35,000 a year job, and acts as an immigration mentor on LinkedIn, and shames immigrants who complains of their predicament struggling to pack boxes or mopping public toilet floors, despite being told by Canada that their job experience in India as the top 5%, or their high education would translate into a middle class job in Canada.
35000 is a poverty wage in canada ,i dont know why these low level immigrants act arrogantly, as if they have achieved enormous success.just because in their home country they have not seen these lavish buildings and extra smooth facilities available in these developed countries.I know many immigrants where both the husband and wife do menial jobs and earn 50-60k per annum and have bought their own home but it was almost 10 years ago,now it seems impossible to live comfortable life with this salary in big cities like vancouver and toronto
Rent for a one-bedroom apartment keeps rising rapidly in Toronto these days. It used to be $1,500 last year, but this year it’s $1,800 to $2,000 and this is on the cheap end.
Wages, however, haven’t kept apace with rising costs. The minimum wage increase has no effect because of the extortionist rent prices.
Last year 2-3 indians were burnt alive or killed while studying in poland,maybe in bar brawl or some street fight which definitely makes poland a bad place to travel for non europeans. All these European countries are in mess as there economy is not doing well,many jobless youths have resorted to violence and racist attacks against immigrants in germany and other east european countries.My colleague visited italy and hungary last month and told that once considered a socialist heaven,the current scenario of these countries is messy and gloomy.Many indian tourists are robbed in broad daylight in rome,paris and spain still these european countries potray themselves as a tourist friendly heaven.Just see what happened to greece rest of the europe will fall like pack of cards in coming years…..
Hungary is a far right government. They hate immigrants, regardless of ethnic origin.
But these racist governments have no problem joining the EU, a supposed ‘globalist’ union.
Parag,
So this means that harassing and dehumanizing educated non-white immigrants is considered terrible in the USA, compared to Canada where the Polish or Hungarian nationalist accost and assault educated (Phd degree) Indian immigrants who are walking to classes to redo their Grade 11 and Grade 12?
Some places in Toronto have a feeling that it’s only Polish nationalist and non-whites don’t belong there. It’s entirely different from an immigrant community; it’s more of like Poland or Hungary bringing their racism and hatred to Canada.
You got to get a restraining order from the court if you are harassed repeatedly. If the harassment continues then these guys will have to pay financial penalties or even jail time. You can even sue the city or township for not protecting you from racism if restraining orders are not followed. If those guys threaten you despite restraining orders then you conceal carry a gun and shoot them. With all the orderly methods you have used, no court is going to convict you. You did what you had to do for your constitutional rights. This is what I will do in the USA. American courts are not going to show mercy to people who pay little taxes and cause disruption to the lives of people who pay high taxes. There is discrimination in the USA and that is based on how much money you make. Police, Judges, State, everything gets their salaries from taxes and those who do not pay much in taxes are worth little. Their voices mean little in the justice system as well (it is an unwritten rule though). These losers are the people who find Canada heaven. As I said, if you are not making a lot of money in America then you are wasting time here.
Canada has it backwards then?
I remember someone telling me that a Punjabi-Canadian teenage man was beaten up in a club, and the Punjabi man yelled to his friends “The police took the side of the white boy!”, though the white boy was unemployed, and the young Punjabi man was atheist, and worked for his father’s financial services firm (a subsidiary of BMO).
This is why I say that Canada can bring in an unemployable and unemployed Polish, Greek, Hungarian or Ukrainian nationalist to Toronto, and they have more rights than the millionaire Middle Eastern businessman being harassed by the Polish nationalist and the Ukrainian nationalist with the strong accent.
Canada claims that it’s tolerant, but it seems that Canada only wants the immigrants to spend their money, and once that’s completed, it’s the end of cordial relations.
Sort of like a Ponzi scheme.
Two things that make Canada different. First, it does not have the country quotas. It can in one year bring 100% of all immigrants belonging to any one country. Second, immigrants can come to Canada without jobs. In some cases, Canada brings immigrants who do not have jobs come to Canada with parmenent residency. Neither of these two things can happen in the USA. You cannot come to USA unless you have a job that you obtained competitively (Trump proposed a minimum salary of $110K per year). Second, no one country can monopolize permanent residency in the USA. Only 7% of people belonging to any one country will be alloted green cards. There are US residency requirement for getting a green card. If you have a criminal record during that time then you are denied a green card, serve time and deported. With these rules it will be foolish for immigrant to be racist. In fact, these low educated people cannot even come to USA.
There is a woman with a very thick European accent and poor grammar encouraging “Canadian patriots” to act on violence against non-whites, including African-Americans, for failing to assimilate into Canadian culture; speaking with a thick Polish accent & doesn’t speak English as good.
Canada should completely ban immigration and advertise jobs for carpenters,plumbers and other tradepersons and make it clear that only persons interested to do labour and trade jobs are eligible to get permanent residency of Canada…Then we see how the number of applicants fall drastically!
It’s the ban immigration crowd who is labelling educated and Canadian-born Indians as Syrian refugees. The Polish nationalist believes that every brown and black person is a refugee who refuses to assimilate to Canad; even the former American slaves who brought culture to Toronto and lived in Nova Scotia for centuries.
The backwards Polish nationalist speaks using a thick European accent, yet harasses millionaire franchise owners from opening a downtown restaurant.
Canada imports scumbags like that and makes educated immigrants feel like refugees.
You guys unnecessarily worry about these guys. In time, you will realize that people who try to cause trouble are losers themselves. Why would anyone try to stop the opening of a restaurant in downtown Toronto? Because they see that as competition. If anything, this should make you happy because these losers are realizing that they are losers. I think you guys are projecting and magnifying your fears. No matter how hard these guys try, Canada is a diverse society and this crap is not going to spread on a massive scale like how it would work in Poland and other such European countries. I think these guys are really depressed because they never thought that Canada is a diverse country. When they come to Canada and find out that they have to compete, they realize that they were no different than where they came from. To some extent, this is also what is happening with Indian immigrants.
Parag,
Indian immigrants don’t post death threats against identifable groups, nor are they hypocrites, such as speaking with a heavy Eastern European accent while accusing the former African slaves of not integrating in Canada.
How would the Americans like it if some immigrant from Poland started dissing the African-Americans for not integrating into American culture? The Polish nationalist would be placed on the Southern Poverty Law Center list of dangerous people.
However, in Canada, one has to take the racist insults and the police are lenient compared to the USA where a Polish nationalist preaching hate will be investigated because hate speech and inciting violence is not free speech.
This is something new. India-trained doctors getting to do their medical practice in the USA?
The Canadian argument for forcing India-trained doctors to redo Grade 12, and redo medical school is based on the racist assumption that all Indian doctors, even those who worked in the NHS system in UK or America, bought their degrees and they bribed their way to become a doctor. This applies to mostly migrant doctors from all spectrums to be frank, but the stereotype that foreign trained doctors have to redo Grade 12 should be an insult.
From what I’ve read, America has had more persons of colour as CEOs, politicians and influential figures per capita than Canada.
There were Indian-Americans who were or are CEOs of large companies such as Uber, Google, Pepsico among others.
But the majority of Indian-Asian migrants to Canada who applied for professional status landing are struggling in Toronto and cleaning public washrooms or driving taxis for low wages.
Most immigrants in Canada tend to live according to nationality, such as Greektown, Little Italy, Little Portugal, Polish Dundas West, Finnish, Jamaican, Caribbeans, etc, but the most part, cities like Brampton, which have lots of Indian immigrants tend to assimilate. Same goes for the Caribbeans and African communities.
However, the racist garbage that comes from Europe ends up in the European enclaves and some people are not welcome in certain parts of Toronto because they are of a different race. Sometimes one hears people speaking their native tongue and then acting racist towards those who were born and raised in Canada.
Canada doesn’t respect the talents of educated and business-minded Indians.
The best option for an educated Indian is to apply for a job in the USA, even if it’s harder to get a work visa due to Trump.
Toronto is the NYC of Canada, and the low class and backward European nationalists have been harassing brown immigrants and writing hate speech against non-whites, and the police don’t really care.
If you, the educated Indian businessman or businesswoman want to end up in a dead end, clean toilets at the TTC and pack boxes in factories while paying 80% of your wages for rent, then be my guest.
The final straw that would deter Indians from investing in Canada is that no matter how much money you make, or what skills you have, the backwards Polish and Greek nationalists would view every Indian as an Arabian terrorist who is like Omar Khadr, a child soldier.
It does not matter if you’re a Hindu woman wearing a sari; the Polish white nationalist would attack you for being “Islamic”. Yes! This is happening in Toronto, not some backwards small town.
The irony is that Poland has benefited tremendously from joining the European Union, yet wants to hate on non-white immigrants. And most of the Polish nationalists come to Toronto and spread hate.
My fellow educated Indian; think wisely before coming to Canada. Trump knows that you’re not a Muslim, but the backwards Polish nationalist views you as a Muslim.
When I hear some language here, I realize that Indians are not much different than Polish people either. Why are you saying Europeans consider you like Muslims? Would it be OK if only Muslims are targetted? Some of the language written here suggests so even though this may not be what you meant. Racism of any kind is wrong regardless of what your ethnicity or religion is. If you take time to separate people as Polish or Greek then that is wrong as well. Canada is a bad country that way. People are constantly judging you, estimating you, adjusting their behavior based on perceptions of your likes and dislikes. Diversity of that kind is a problem. Integration in a society of that kind is also a problem. However, I think most of the world is a mess and life, in general, is never easy. Just imagine what Canadians who have been living for several generations in Canada think? They have to adjust to this new reality of bigotry as well.
India has a Hindu nationalist problem and I was just stating that the racist people don’t know the difference between a Muslim and a Hindu.
Lots of Hindus in Toronto think that anti-Islamic sentiment and racism in general doesn’t affect them (due to hearing fake stores and half-truths from relatives abroad), but once one is brown, they are lumped together as Muslim refugees in Canada.
i have seen canadians are very jealous of people who make money same like UK,they want to earn minimum wages and be take all socialist freebies from the government and feel contended
Parag, to reply to your comment, so that means that the CEO of Paramount Fine Foods and that Middle Eastern eatery should relocate to the USA?
Those CEOs were harassed by members of the Canadian National Guard and Yellow Vest Movement. Canada also has a European PIGEDA anti-Islamic movement which harasses Hindu and Muslim women on the streets of Toronto and the surrounding areas.
Canada has imported low class and uneducated Eastern Europeans who stick to their own enclaves and they act hostile towards a non-white when they travel into those areas.
The Polish nationalist has also spread hate against all brown people that the hate is directed at educated Indian businessmen, their Canadian-born children, and even babies are spat on by the Polish nationalist in Toronto.
The flaw with multi-culturalism in Canada is that the Polish white nationalist contends that non-white immigrants do not assimilate to Canadian society, yet the Polish nationalist is bringing his hate and uneducated remarks against immigrants from Europe.
If those business can survive competitive environment of the USA then yes they are always welcome. Keep in mind that Canada restricts competition to encourage Canadian businesses. Even search engines in Canada will not show US businesses offering competitive products. You also have customs that discourage Canadians from buying too many things from USA. Additionally, Canadian media requires at minimum 30% of media content shown in Canada coming from Canadian media. So Paramount Fine Foods may be benefiting from Canadian protectionism. If it moves to the USA, it may not even survive due to heave competition in the USA.
I don’t have enough info to believe that Paramount Fine Foods benefits from the Canadian monopoly system because the protectionist system benefits companies like Tim Hortons, Bell Canada, Rogers and lots of Canadian brands more than “foreign” brands. Toronto has a high Arabic population, and he was lucky to capitalize on that.
But, a day might come if the owner decides that the Polish and Canadian nationalists are a detriment to his life and his family and he might consider moving to the States, if possible.
The “nationalists” and Polish nationalist have defamed the man and have threatened his family’s lives. The Polish nationalist is on YouTube threatening violence against Muslim business owners because Dr. Fakih won a lawsuit against a white supremacist for defamation.
The hate against immigrant-owned businesses in Canada is troubling. I know that in the USA, immigrants who create successful businesses are respected, but in Toronto I honestly don’t know why the Canadian nationalist groups and the Polish/Greek/Eastern European skinheads are harassing the man and his family.
I have discussed this issue with my friends in India who are considering moving to Canada to start businesses, and even that incident (Dr. Fakih and Syrian food shop death threats) are scaring investors.
Don’t blame Polish nationalism to immigration. It is the Russian KGB that is using Western freedoms to divide countries and sow hatred and discontent. Most countries are helpless against such hatred. Brexit is a direct outcome of this. If you remember Virginia nationalist gathering where one person was killed? There are some incidents that happen in mosques and other places in the USA. The US government has a cyber command that monitors such activities. From time to time Facebook and Google testify on such issues. The FBI has percolated such hate groups and indicts people from time to time on domestic terrorism-related issues. There are automated bots that spread these messages on a mass scale. Even governments cannot block people entirely as there are VPN software that allow you to browse the internet by hiding your location. This way you get access to any content located anywhere.
Did you read the story of a Canadian international student who was murdered in Poland, and the authorities dragged their feet at the story?
Poland is currently a racist country—They’ve elected a nationalist party, and they dislike non-white immigrants. It’s ironic given that Germany under Hitler wanted to exterminate Poles, but Poland is embracing neo-Nazism.
Those countries are always like that. What keeps them from fighting is the USA’s superpower status. If America retreats then Europe and the middle east start fighting again. The history of European and Middle Eastern nations is built on bullying and extortion. They justify their evil ways based on religious and racial superiority. This is the core aspect of why people hate the USA. They think the USA restricts their bullying and call the USA a bully.
Parag your writing style and thoughts are that of an assimilated American, but if you were to visit Poland or Hungary; or think of opening a billion-dollar business, the racist governments there would allow Polish and Hungarian nationalists to vandalize, threaten and do harm to your business and family. This was why I was concerned that Canadian white nationalists were trying to shut down Dr. Fakih’s restaurant while posting calls for violence on Youtube with the Polish nationalist.
I use the terms “Polish nationalist”, “Canadian white nationalist”, because I don’t want their names showing up on this website’s search engines, nor would I want them to harass the owners of this blog.
Educated and entrepreneurial immigrants to Canada are being harassed and victimized by those nationalist scumbags and the Canadian government only waits until they do something violent to do anything.
Parag, would America accept the CEO of Paramount Fine Foods, a Lebanese named Dr. Mohammad Fakih, and his friend, a Syrian refugee who started a growing franchise?
Those men are being harassed and threatened with death by the Canadian and Polish nationalist, despite those men contributing to the Canadian economy.
Absolutely. I think Uber CEO is of similar background. Everyone is welcome to America. Why would anyone hate a CEO regardless of who he is? He is creating jobs and growing economy. The company pays taxes so US government is more than happy. We need people hungry for success who strike rich. If those racist Polish try to stop such people in America then they go to jail or get killed if they use violent means. Do not make a mistake. Immigrants are not some poor people in America. We are multi-millionaires and we will come after you from position of strength and clean America of bigotry. These racists are not really rich people and they will get hit by a freight train of rich immigrants in the USA. We are ready to fight foreign influence right from the founding of America.
I also believe that the (late) founder of Apple, Steve Jobs, was a Syrian.
The harassment campaign that the European nationalists did to Dr. Fakih and his business associate friend would have led to criminal charges if an Indian man did this to a white person.
But the main issue is that why would educated and business-minded Indians move to Canada to end up sweeping floors and cleaning TTC toilets, while being at a high risk of being harassed and assaulted by Polish nationalists who have immigrated to Canada?
There are Polish, Greek, Golden Dawn, Norway and even Swedish white supremacists who have set roots in Toronto of all places. Toronto is the NYC of Canada.
I can’t imagine a skin head from Greece or the Polish nationalist doing this in NYC without being beaten up by the local African-Americans and Puerto Ricans.
i would say americans are more business minded and they dont care about the race/religion when doing their businesses.Thats why we have so many IITians and doctors, from Top medical colleges in india making their professional niche in USA.
It is not only that but also Capitalism. No township wants to lose taxes where racist shoo away rich people because when rich people move away township taxes shrink. If I live in a township, I also pay local taxes. If I move to another township then my old township loses taxes because I moved. When enough people move away, property values and property taxes also fall. Township that attract people will also see increase in property values and taxes. So racism does not really work in the USA. It only works on the Internet.
Canada is not like that. I think Alberta shares its oil profits with other states. This means racists can harass people and when people move, local communities do not lose taxes.
Money doesn’t have race/religion/nationality, but the bigots who live in small town Canada, or the racists who emigrated from Poland, EE, etc are uneducated and hateful of other cultures.
The Polish nationalist even contends that the Polish people are not to be blamed for their racist attitudes and anti-Jewish hatred because they were under Soviet rule.
But the Polish people have emigrated in non-white lands for decades and brought their racism there too.
Let those guys try it where I live. The whole community including law enforcement will turn against them. No one wants taxpayers out of their community. The cops’ salaries are paid by local taxes and property values will take a hit if its reputation suffers. Besides these guys will never get a green card if they have a police record. You bet that I have the resources to hire the best lawyers to sue them at the least harassment. The pursuit of happiness is also a right in America. These guys will have to pay if they harass me. Any threat of violence will be handled with lethal force. I will carry a gun if I feel threatened. My first option will be civil litigation. Additionally, they will be arrested, thrown in jail and deported. Even people with criminal records or child molesters have a problem finding a community to live in as these guys get thrown out all the time. America puts limits on immigration. No country can get over 7% of green cards per year. It takes anywhere between 3 to 30 years to get a green card so you have to put on your good behavior for a long time before you get your green card. After that you need to stay clear of a police record for an additional 5 years before you get your citizenship. As I said before, America does not consider cultural defense. These guys can say any damn thing they want (like they were under Russia etc.), they will be thrown out. America does not want scum from the world.
hello mr parag are you gujarati descent indian origin?dont mind just asking because of curiosity…..
No, Marathi who never lived in Maharastra.
Canada seems to be regressing if educated Indians and educated immigrants as a whole are viewed as refugees, while America lets those same educated immigrants move to America once they secure a job, which seems to be far easier, even with Trump in power.
In Toronto, doctors and Phd professors are cleaning hospital floors for minimum wage. I don’t see how this is a life to live in Canada, especially how the growing ‘populist’ Polish nationalist hatred that is growing into anti-Indian and anti-Islamic sentiments.
Hindus are lumped together with Arabians. And the European immigrants who refuse to assimilate yet claim that Hindus are Muslims are pushing this anti-Indian narrative in Canada.
What should amaze you is that a millionaire, Mohammad Fakih, a Lebanese, being lumped together with Islamic extremists by the bigots and Polish nationalist. I don’t see that happening in America, ever. America respects talent like that.
Canada is regressing.
Ashu, it doesn’t matter if you’re Indian; Indians are viewed in the same hostility as Arabs and African refugees.
Canadians who are bigoted would view an Indian IT worker as a refugee from Syria, and probably a religious extremist to boot.
The European white nationalism is being imported into Canada, while in the USA, the Polish nationalist who hates non-whites would get beaten up if he promoted hate in NYC due to the high African-American and Puerto Rican population.
Canada lets European nationalists do what they want while in the USA, one has to become “American”. Huge difference.
The Polish nationalist would even view the most educated Indian as a terrorist while gunning down non-whites in an African church or mosque. The hate against immigrants in Canada is becoming severe than in the USA.
Indians in the USA are not viewed as terrorists in NYC these days, but in Toronto, the European immigrants bring nasty racism to Canada which would put America to shame!
Common america has its hand dirty through lot of clandestine activities like drug wars, including the contra band in latin america,iraq war for oil supremacy and double agents like barry seal who helped US to earn in millions through illicit drug trade.But i agree that america has always been the hotbed of innovators and scientists,from wright brothers to henry ford to howard aiken ,all of them have proved the technical prowess of USA again and again,yes USA produces world class weapons through intensive research and development.USA cannot be compared to canada because the problem with canada is that vast majority of canada is a frozen waste land unsuitable for industrial growth and human habitation.just look at kashmir,everyone calls kashmir a paradise still thousands of kashmiris are flocking to other states for jobs and professional development, just because the extreme temperature of kashmir is unfit for economic development.secondly USA accepts foreign talent without any IFs and BUTs ,while canada puts hundreds of barriers in front of foreign talented skill worker which is quite demoralizing for any immigrant.Greenland has maximum no of suicides it has a same weather like of canada,isnt a coincidence that canada also have huge numbers of homeless people dying on its impersonal streets.UK aka great britain once ruled the world now whats its worth today?its crumbling maybe because of monarchy or the egoistic attitude of queen.USA will survive much more before collapsing i doubt it will collapse because of its ingrained capitalism and ruthless foreign policy which puts americans interest before anything……Canada cant become USA even in coming 100 years..
Actually, in the USA, we want immigrants coming and starting at the top. The vast majority of European countries and Canada cannot handle the fact that immigrants make a lot of money. These countries want immigrants to start right a the bottom. America does not want any immigrants starting at the bottom because then they compete with the poor in America and they will not pay any taxes. So when I see immigration to Europe or Canada, I see racism. These guys cannot handle the fact that someone from another country can be better than them or can do financially better. As a result, only poor immigrants will find those places attractive. These countries then spread false platitudes like we are generous with our immigration and accept refugees. Even immigrants, who do not want to acknowledge institutional racism and trying to fit in, start saying life is good here and I would not live anywhere else, etc.
I have visited Canada for over 20 years. I know the hatred of Americans. I also know that if a Canadian gets a chance to leave Canada for the USA, he would take that opportunity 9 times out of 10. Canadian women are always looking at ways to come to America. People really are living in a pressure cooker in Canada. The only way to live happily in Canada is to have enough money to buy a condo in either Florida, Las Vegas or Hawaii. You can then spend 6 months in your condo location and the remaining 6 summer months in Canada. Living such a lifestyle needs a lot of money and all Canadians want that lifestyle.
Parag that is a great point—How Canadians view educated immigrants as uneducated and uncivilized while Americans expect educated immigrants to become a taxpayer American.
Lots of Caribbean migrants end up as millionaire doctors and CEOs in the USA, but in Canada, they end up mopping floors at the TTC or packing boxes in factories and they die earlier.
Immigrants never realize that in the name of CANADIAN EXPERIENCE they are facing systemic discrimination.Many immigrants justify the humilation faced from their white canadian counterparts by reminding themselves of caste based discrimination and other prejudices back home in india. yes there is discrimination in india but only for lower class or strate of people,while in canada even a high class immigrant will have to do menial jobs or start from scratch.I Have seen IIT graduates working in call centers and warehouses burning their hands while doing packaging jobs.UK and USA have fair proportion of indian doctors,but how many indian or brown doctors does canada have in its system?
Canadian universities are all money minting institutes.They treat international students as cash cow,why would any international student pay 60k dollars just to do some minimum wage jobs after graduation?with the influx of many IT professionals from all over the world just because trump uncle is putting lot of hurdles for H1B aspirants toronto and vancouver are facing stiff competition for house rents and IT jobs.I dont think canada has a bright future…sadly.
In America, as long as one is “American”, immigrants easily assimilate into society.
But what I’ve observed with Canada is that immigrants who are not white end up facing barriers in the job market, even if they study higher Canadian education and get advanced degrees and MBAs.
Furthermore, the white nationalist movement from Poland, Hungary and Russia have spread like cancer into Canada that hate crimes are surging in Toronto, a so-called ‘multi-cultural’ city.
In other words, European immigration has imported Polish white nationalism which views brown immigrants as scum.
In the USA, the Polish immigrant who hates Black and brown people would not be supported if he does that in NYC because of a strong African-American population. However, in Toronto, it seems that European white nationalism is becoming problematic and the Quebec Mosque shooting is a root of the growing racism that immigrants face in Canada, which promotes itself as a tolerant country.
How can Canada be tolerant if it imports European white nationalists who refuse to assimilate and become Canadian?
In the USA, a polish immigrant will not enter without a job. America will only let people immigrate when it benefits America. Otherwise, they are kept out. So, if you want to come to America then better get a high paying job. No American experience required just talent that fetches you a high paying job.
Good!
You should read how Indians are lumped together with Muslims on the Poland forums, both for locals and for Polish expats.
So America is they welcome your talents, and in Canada is that they bring everyone in, including the unemployed Polish nationalist who refuses to integrate and bring their racist garbage, or the ‘refugee’ with the criminal record?
Educated Indians are lumped together with those illegal refugees in Canada. Does this happen in the USA?
First of all Indians never come to USA and live here looking for jobs. You come to USA on a visa (student or work visa). Once your degree is done, you either get a job or you go home. When you get a job, you have to compete for the job with locals and your job visa is only granted when you get competitive salary. No one can live in America if their visa status is over. They cannot afford healthcare. No one can qualify for any benefits unless they have a green card or citizen. The benefits are way lower than Canadian benefits. America is pure capitalist country. Anyone from Europe or Canada (an average person) cannot survive in America. There are absolutely no benefits available for them so they will literally starve to death. America is not for an average person. You either come here and make a lot of money or you don’t. Most cannot make it in America so they sit in Canada and hate America.
To answer your question if Indians are lumped together with others. Well, that lumping never makes sense in the USA. Why would anyone care about who you are when immigrants do not drain public benefits or get free health care or even compete at the lower end jobs (unless they are illegals who get deported all the time). If you survive in the USA then you are paying for your livelihood. No one cares about you. Everyone in the USA is busy with their life. Besides, more immigrants mean better demand so why would anyone hate immigrants. Trump tried to instill hatred based on religion and Muslim culture, but that is a stupid idea because everyone under 18 in America today is a minority. In one decade everyone under 28 in America will be a non-white minority. Hate has no future in America. Besides, law enforcement is strong and FBI monitors hate groups in America as well. When people with hate act, they usually get killed. Cops in America do not negotiate. They are paid to swiftly solve situations and are allowed to used overwhelming lethal force. If you survive then trial lawyers will stack bills and get judgments against you worth millions of dollars. If you hate in America, you really do not belong here. Sooner or later, you will either get killed, get incarcerated or end up paying legal bills/fines for eternity. From time to time, you have incidents as some people test the limits but they either die or go to jail and ruin their life forever.
I’m actually considering to let my educated friends know that Canada is not the place for them, and that they should try getting a work visa and migrate to the USA cities like NYC or other business hubs, even if it’s harder to obtain.
It’s better for them to remain in their countries of origin than to relocate to Canada and sweep floors for minimum wage while the backwards and racist Polish nationalists harass them and their families after working and studying to become a taxpayer to society.
I’m glad that the Polish nationalist might get sanctioned or beaten up if he preaches hate against non-whites in the USA.
The cops should definitely use lethal force against the European nationalist if they harm non-whites.
Meanwhile, the Canadian media is trying to frame the Quebec mosque shooter as a lonely and bullied child.
You do not have to worry about cops using lethal force. There are states in the USA that have stand your ground meaning that people can carry their own concealed weapons and shoot these racists. Right to life is clear under the US constitution so these morons will get shot before even cops arrive. American constitution does not make any accomodations about culture, etc. The Canadian constitution encourages racism by incorporating vague words such as cultural protection.
Canada is owned by a few families who form monopolies and oligopolies, unlike the USA where there are thousands of billionaires who create jobs, foster innovation and make American life and economy ranked the highest in the world (for now).
In Canada, if you come here with an ‘educated’ attitude, expect to be shamed and put down by the locals (as in white Canadian-borns).
But no one is coming to Canada with a holier-than-thou attitude, but just putting higher education on your resume for an entry level job is considered rude to Canadian employers, because the employers only have Grade 8 or Grade 10 education and this challenges their authority.
Canada is not competitive, and the oil in Alberta requires a ton ( pun intended) of refining.
America has sourced cheaper oil, and oil which requires less refining, elsewhere such as Newfoundland, Africa and in South America, and don’t require Canada’s heavy crude as much. Has nothing to do with Trudeau, because Trudeau went against his liberal ideas to support a pipeline.
The fact is that Canada’s crude is too costly to refine, and America has found cheaper sources of oil elsewhere. Exxon-Mobil has obtained at least 15 billions of light crude in Brazil, and several billion in neighbouring countries.
Canada has to be more competitive if they want to survive in the globalized world.
competition word is not in canada’s dictionary,canada runs on mediocrity, everything is average be it company or their employees.Once you try to act smart you are quickly shown the way out of the door, thats why canada has maximum no of people living on paycheque to paycheque.why can’t canada produce giants like bill gates and steve jobs time to rethink?
You’re right on the money. It’s taught in a course called “Career & Networking” that “meeting prospective employers and NETWORKING (emphasis given) is the key to success in finding a job.
However, who will the employer hire, especially if it’s a typical Canadian male? A foreign student with a thick and heavy accent with a GPA of 4.0, or a blond Canadian white girl with a GPA of 2.0?
canada doesnt produce giants because we dont like the billionaire capitalist mindset. even europe is breaking down. so is US but its just taking longer. its typical to see americans, indians, chinese people think in terms of money. not everyone agrees with this.
canada will not allow billionaires to come in control even though the argument is favor is they run the country and boost the economy. the country and economy can run without these selfish giants. why? Because canada has resources for now just like australia which runs the country.
you cant see all the problems that capitalists bring for everyone?
Salman, do you know that only a few companies own most of the food, telecoms and media? Only a few families in Canada own most of the wealth. While the USA is capitalistic, it isn’t aristocratic like Canada where innovation is frowned upon. Americans are more than happy to have innovators and risk-takers, while Canada only wants Yes men and conformists.
There is no world peace without Capitalism. For the first 2000 years of modern civilization, population growth was slow because wealth was highly dependent on resources that Earth could provide. The only way to support population growth is through innovations in technology. Farm productivity, medical advances, oil recovery from shale is all possible due to advances in technology and that made the USA rich. Advances in military technology allow few people in the USA to keep peace around the world. These technology advances do not come cheap either. You need heavy capital investments in advance manufacturing. These investments can only be made by Capitalistic countries. America by default is the leader of the world because of Capitalism.
I can see why Canadians want the US to be a socialist country. They want the US to be a socialist country so that they can come and spend 6 months in the USA. US Capitalism makes it harder for Canadians to retire in the USA. News flash guys, we will keep you out unless you are rich to afford US healthcare. America is for the rich.
Parag,
Canadians are envious of America. They want to see America collapse, but fail to realize that 85% of Canadian exports go to the USA and are traded with the USA.
Canada is a country for the mediocre who is content living on welfare or working a dead-end job for their entire lives because their home country is a crappy place or they are considered dalits.
America rewards innovation and this is evident that most of the famous entertainers and investors from Canada are successful by living in the USA.
Just like brexit there is going demand of wexit ,alberta and quebec are demanding separation from rest of canada maybe they are fed up of trudeau economic policy which laid off 100000 albertans from job
Parag, the problem is that foreigners from India and Asia are told a lie by immigration lawyers from Canada to come here for their Canadian dream, only to discover that foreign credentials are not recognized in the Canadian job market.
Also having a foreign sounding name other than Jane Smith is a huge indirect barrier in hiring due to the close-mindedness of Canadian employers.
Hundreds of thousands of immigrants are fleeced of their life savings, and this will continue for thousands of years because India has over 1 billion suckers to fool into coming to Canada.
ok so keeping it simple canada is not so great for highly skilled professionals there are IT jobs in vancouver and toronto but market is becoming saturated nowadays.houses are damn expensive almost one million dollar so i dont think majority of immigrants can afford housing keeping in mind their salary.Free healthcare is good to some extent but again you cant get the specialist appointment instantly.education is free till school but college education is expensive and many canadians with university degrees are working as a cashier or doing odd jobs.So is it worth to invest so much in education when you are not sure of getting good jobs?as a family you need 100k salary after tax to live an above middle class life which is again very difficult to earn.Life quality is better than india or other third world nations but only if you earn well otherwise no point in living hand to mouth.
If you get a job of over 50k feel yourself a lucky guy but again you will be living without nil savings,the problem is that india as a whole country is deteriorating be it on infrastructure,pollution and on environmental level,hence many indians wish to escape to western countries believing everything there is of utopian level.Well immigration to canada always will be a hard boiling topic until immigrants really share their true experience till then everything seems dark and suspicious.
Immigrants will always want more money because they do not have a family to fall back on when hard times come. If you do not make a lot of money in Canada then it is not worth coming here. The only immigrants that will find Canada acceptable are the ones who face certain death in their home countries. These guys have no choice and coming to Canada is a matter of survival.
Maybe but there are several factors which influence someone to immigrate to canada like less chaos,clean air and water, organised and efficient system,all these things are mostly neglected in third world countries.
The Native Indians don’t have clean air or water. There was a scandal where the elite companies were dumping toxic chemicals into the water supply of a contested Native area in Ontario.
Is it true that many old age canadians and immigrants die from heart attack due to shovelling in winters?canada has also maximum number of patients on wheelchair due to risky and hard stance menial jobs done by workers above 40 years of age.why is canada hiding all these facts which are a threat to migration?doing labour and menial jobs in canadian weather is extremely risk and hazardous
Yes you might have to work in a factory or shovel snow despite having a Phd in Asia or Europe.
UK is definitely a better place for immigrants be it weather or job opportunities and UK never advertises itself a great immigration destination,inspite of all this it gives almost 30000 tier 2 visa to indians.UK has also many flaws a nation but still people dont die in streets like canada.
UK is not better for immigrants. it is a country of rat race. some people dont want to see other people around to make population like asian countries. if i wanted people, i would go back to asia. i dont want that many people in the country. the life quality is high in canada without any hard work. that is what i like. i love canada, australia (the great outdoors) and the beautiful beaches of NZ, prestine and no people around.
the meaning of life is v different to many people. at some point, these views never reconcile. most second or third generation in the west care more about going to restaurants, surfing, chilling out in life, not being the head of microsoft, amazon, or nasa.
what life in canada?first clear your facts,you will spend half if your time in doing menial/partime jobs and travelling to your workplace.For enjoying all these luxuries in western countries you need high end salary which is difficult to earn atleast in canada.There are immigrants who do jobs in weekends just to meet their ends.Canada is good for druggies,perverts and free loaders i suspect you are amongst the one.
Many immigrants fail to realize that predators end up teaching their children and molest them, and those immigrant parents are either ignorant or afraid to complain.
In India I hear that pervert teachers get a good beating and shamed from the villege. In Canada it’s illegal to even criticize convicted child rapists and child killers such as Paul Bernardo or his wife accomplice Karla Homolka.
*shamed from the village.
On the one hand, you call Canada racist and, on the other, you want Canadian child molesters to face vigilante justice. Your recommendations are inconsistent. Vigilante justice is disrespecting law and order just like racism. Immigrants need to leave their culture back home and realize that Canada is a developed country. Many things that are done back home are not necessarily the correct way of doing things.
Parag,
Canada’s laws protect child molesters, especially if they work in government or well-connected jobs like teachers, daycare workers or even police officers.
Meanwhile, the Canadian government monitors these websites to send police for dissenting views. I’m certain that this website was contacted by the Canadian government at one time.
But Canada protects the pedophile to rape children inside the class room, church or daycare centre!
Canada is basically Vancouver, Alberta, Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal. The rest of Canada are xenophobic small towns which have racist hate crimes skyrocket.
If a successful immigrant like Mohamed Fakih, a man who owns one of the largest restaurant chains in Canada, is a target of anti-immigrant hatred and anti-Muslim hate crimes, what makes the average immigrant believe that they will be welcomed in Canada for their skills?
In Toronto of all places Mohamed Fakih is constantly being targeted, and recently a Syrian restaurant was forced to close its doors because of anti-immigrant death threats. The racists justify this because of an incident involving a Canadian woman attending a pro-hate rally which seeks to reduce immigration and support hate crimes in Canada.
If this was in NYC, the anti-immigrant hate would not have happened on business owners, neo-Nazi trolls harassing businesspeople.
Imagine being an entrepreneur, and the racist Canadians contend that you are a refugee and a terrorist, despite creating millions of dollars and creating thousands of jobs for the economy?
And the racists are doubling down on their hate even when the courts have ordered several racists to pay $2.5 million to Fakih for defamation. How are those racists able to survive, while if a non-white is accused of a crime, his or her life changes for the worse, and they end up on the streets?
there is only 1 problem. govt and local canadians are at odds. the people cant really be sued as a whole. the govt must be sued for bringing immigrants on a hypothetical criteria when the locals are not interested.
entreprenuers or business owners. this all comes later in life. first is fun in the great outdoors of canada, not the business success in times square
That is where you contradict. You cannot have a great life without hard-working people. Canadians cannot have free health care AND a great life. Someone needs to pay taxes and make a lot of money to support lazy people. Canada needs immigrants because they bring money and many return home after exhausting their finances. Canada is really not that much different from Europe. It is not that less populated either. In theory, it is a big country, but Canada’s habitable places are crammed with a lot of population. The very first thing you notice when entering Canada from the USA (via an airplane) is how many homes are located just next to each other. It is too densely packed country. I guess the government saves money on infrastructure by densely packing people together.
Most of the places are covered with snow its habitable for polar bears not for humans,and government wants immigrants to settle down in rural areas like nunavut which is a horrible place covered by snow everytime.All the big cities are saturated with housing and residents,they cant support more of the population
UK is any time better than canada,yes but canada is much like other socialist countries like germany norway and other scandanavian countries where you nver become rich
The Polish and Hungarian inspired nationalist masquerading as a Canadianer assumes that complaining about Canadian immigration is “Islam”.
You know what?
It’s good that the populations of racist European countries like Poland, Hungary and Russia are declining. Those people are racist and they treat non-whites worse than dogs.
America should BAN racist Poles, Hungarians and Russians. Canada imports these racists and they harass Indian immigrants by conflating them with Arabians.
Many Indian immigrants assimilate into America and become doctors, lawyers and CEOs of Google. But the racist Polish and Hungarian nationalist are harassing and attacking Indian immigrants to Canada.
Money is everything in Canada.
Tell the landlord that you are enjoying the great outdoors of Canada while he jacks up your rent.
what is the job market in smaller cities like halifax saskatchwen and nunavut?i dont think anything productive would come out in these places as these places are frozen like tundra.
Only Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa and Vancouver have the jobs.
Alberta used to have jobs but the oil industry is collapsing.
Ashu, many of the South Asian and Arabian males who migrate here come from middle class families. They made a mistake assuming that the white female is open to them when she walks nude in public or entertains elementary-age boys by her lack of clothes.
Canadian women, as in white females, are given rights to flaunt and display their bodies, but as you mentioned, it’s illegal to make her feel uncomfortable through ‘leering’ and making her feel like an ‘object’.
Canada has worst fertility rate which is the reason of its very low population growth,its extreme weather conditions are never conducive to human mating and reproduction,Still we see lakhs of indian and middle eastern immigrants ganging up to migrate to canada every year
why is there so much talk of women problem? it shows over and over you prove my point. only complains.
so lets start.
First, divorce has nothing to do with canada. it has to do with the person. the laws should allow for it to happen as much as the person wants. in our countries, the laws are inadequate.
second, terrorism is never the answer. have you not heard this slogan that india portrays so proudly but seems like doesnt want to follow? if the van driver is frustrated, he can go kill himself in peace in the ocean. useless loser. no once cares about such losers.
Third, so many feminist problem. how come i dont hear this complain from anyone but a bunch of indians here? feminism is what indian women want even in india. the laws will change to accomodate them. never mistake it. the govt lost to LGBT. serves the govt right. no one stands in the ways of freedom and modernization and capitalism.
Forth, it is the expectations of indians especially that life is logic. it is not. this is why indians may be good in some areas but not others. whining and complaining will only demean the respect. no wonder even indians who are here specially second generation dont even want to mix with other indians who are immigrants. change personality and attitude.
Fifth, lowest fertility is not a problem. its your opinion. i can say india’s highest fertility is the worst and the extreme heat. its all perception.
lastly, yes many people immigrate here and will forever. i would pick canada over india, dubai, malaysia, hong kong, south africa, anytime anyday even if i have to work as a cleaner here. this is to do the freedom choice and not the rat race people in our country are involved in.
Ashu, they were told a lie.
Salman, I hope that you aren’t a victim of the hate crimes in Canada. Young men of Indian, Muslim and Arab origins are more likely to be viewed as a rapist and criminal because of the conservative propaganda. Even Hare Krishna men dressed in the saffron robe are viewed in the same hostility as an Arab refugee.
yes and so? just live with it or try to change it in the open. the defination of multi culturism is not everyone’s culture. it is melt into the existing culture as an immigrant. this is the other side of the coin. you can never prove it right and the other wrong. Hare krishna, arabs, phillippines, dubai or france doesnt matter in canada. what matters is you adjust your life and religion,personality, and sexual identity to match the workings of the best place on earth. love this country for what it is not what you want it to be
I dare you to make a comment on a white female co-worker on how she dresses, and see how quick you will lose your job.
But the white mass shooters who are shooting up mosques, African Churches and Jewish synagogues live a far better life in a secure prison, with meals and even a university education funded by the taxpayer, while the law-abiding non-whites have to toil and struggle in this frozen land.
Did you know what the New Zealand mass shooter did in court? He openly mocked the families of the victims from his cell, and he is getting a graduate education funded just like the Norway mass shooter.
I will also blame the indian and south asian culture of taking it easy and finding shortcuts in western nations for petty gains.Indian youths and males generally have very lusty and treachrous attitude towards white women.They think that many of the western women are easy to get and are maid to be laid.This is not true and more and more rejection from female would make them more frustated and hence they go to other extreme measures like stalking which creates a rift and bad impression among western women regarding south asian males(indian and pakistan).I would say feminism is two edged sword which has to be used judiciously while in canada it is used in the other way around
why is there 80 percent divorce rate in canada?any reasons
what does that have to do with canada? there are divorce rates everywhere. you cant tie this to lifestyle. it has to do with the people style. also where did you get this value from? next time give reference. these are things people learn in school to make their life better but clearly some people dont know so maybe thats why life is so bad for some people in canada.
Canada is considered the worst country for divorces. There are hundreds of blogs which complain specifically of Toronto.
Recently, that guy who drove that van on pedestrians confessed that it was his lack of dating success and frustrations with women which motivated him to commit the crime.
Canada overall is a bad place for a man.
As parag said now bloggers on youtube have started videos showing the fancy sides of migrating to canada,but they never show how tough is to find white collar job for fresh off the boat immigrants.Canada was a good country 10 years back to immigrate now its getting more clumsy and an unhappy place for new immigrants
Ashu, how will the YouTube bloggers get their bread-and-butter from the Canadian government if they criticize immigration and racism in Canada?
Back in the early 2000s, an Asian couple from the UK, Prem and Mala, openly wrote a website NotCanada and the government censored the website after a crooked court ruling.
Life is difficult in Toronto because rents are outpacing incomes, and the gap between the rich and poor are widening.
Apartments are hard to rent because of discrimination and greedy landlords who would rather rent to a middle class white couple than to a non-white.
And Salman tells us to respect Canada…Tell that to the Aboriginals who were robbed of their lands!
women in canada are like feminazis they can put any man in jail just because of false accusation.Many immigrants in corporate setups are fired as they were accused of leering and staring oddly at canadian women workers,god knows how truthful it is.In canadian office culture it is believed that woman colleague can pat on mans butt while Dare any man do the same to his female colleague,he will be doomed for life by the cops and social justice tribunal.Feminism is like cancer,many men are suffering slowly and are becoming more and more paralyzed in western nations specially canada.A false divorce case from any woman in canada would lead to confiscation of entire property of her husband.Thats why dating scene is very poor in canada,girls/women in canada when approached by random male would categorize that individual as a stalker or molester without knowing the motivation of that random person.
Male immigrants learn it the hard way when they lose their jobs because they assume that a local Canadian co-worker dressing in a short skirt and showing more cleavage than Playboy Magazine would let them, people from poor third world countries, even LOOK at her body, when she has hundreds of Bay St. millionaires on her Ashley Madison app.
White Canadian females in Toronto have the power to maliciously accuse the lower 99 percentile of males of harassment, while they dress like that only for the top one percentile.
Male immigrants should understand that the sexuality of the White woman is that of the nobility of Europe. The local Canadian women are free to walk naked in public, but she also has the power to put men considered undesirables in jail over accusations of harassment.
Feminist culture and alienated men who are pushed around by feminist bosses.
There is no respect for men and the local Canadian women think it’s okay to disrespect immigrants and men.
If any women dials 911 in toronto or vancouver and complains against any random man who may be located 1000 miles away from these two cities,still he would be caught by the law enforcement agencies and the whereabouts of the men wouldn’t be known to anyone except on the day he is produced in the local court.Such is the power of radical feminists in canada! Law can be tilted against any respectable male and only one allegation will be enough to ruin his entire career and life,as his database is recorded on the computer for ever by the law agencies.
But thousands of Indigenous (Aboriginal) women are murdered and buried in shallow graves, yet the national police (RCMP) is unable to prosecute those who committed such heinous crimes…Why? Because the murdered Aboriginal women are not Caucasian and middle class women.
Lots of brown and Black men living in Canada know the autocratic nature of the Canadian white woman. The White woman has so much power at her disposal, yet flies business class with her $2,500 handbag to third world countries to dictate that those countries should implement the White power laws.
It’s legal for a Canadian woman to walk nude in public, but she can call the cops if any male makes her feel objectified. I’m not joking!
Nudity is legal for certain social groups and genders in Canada. Imagine walking to work and then some random naked Canadian woman accuses you of harassing or objectifying her! Canada is that loony, and the USA might enact such laws due to social interest groups like NOW and NAMBLA.
That is a problem of Indian culture and not that of Canada. You guys are assuming that feminism is bad. Well, so is patriarchy. I consider this as a cultural adjustment problem, which is not a significant problem for me. You do not go to another country to “teach” them your culture.
toxic feminism is always bad as the immigrants are never used to be hated in there native country just because they are male,canadian media and school constantly feeds anti male garbage to young children
White Canadian women are in India changing their culture and laws….How is that fair?
British tried to change Indian culture for over a century and Indians gave them a middle finger. That is what I would do with Indian culture if I were a Canadian.
i dont why immigrants who are delusioned with the worsening conditions in there home countries(air pollution adulteration of food items,degradation of natural resources),migrate to canada.Is life in canada so much good that a person who is CEO or half millionare in his country will do survival jobs in canada just for the sake of good future of his kids?Well theres no guarantee that your kid will become a star in this country,hes most likely to become drug dealer or gang member due to peer pressure and degrading moral values of the surrounding culture.Raising kids is a different headache in western world as you cant tame them by physical force or heavy discipline as there are several repercussions including legal action against parents.coming to the other point of pollution yes canada is much cleaner and safe than india or other asian countires but you need fair amount of money to reproduce good living standards,you cant expect to live a healthy lifestyle just by doing menial jobs
I finally know the answer to why everyone is cribbing on this board. Canada is heaven if you are a loser in your home country, but you cannot come to Canada because you do not have the points. The points-based immigration system gives you high points if you have advanced degrees and people think that getting high points means Canada wants such people. That is a mistake. Points qualify you for immigration. Once you immigrate, you begin as a high school graduate in Canada. This is the part people find hard to accept.
The Canadian government used to preach that their skills are needed for a job in Canada.
Gone are those days of quality immigration from india to USA,Indians in the 70s,80s 90s and early 2000 who excelled in engineering and medicine made great strides after migrating to USA.We see all these by hearing NASA AND silicon valley success stories made by indians who entered into these organizations through dint of their hardwork.Engineers from IIT AND NITS and few brilliant doctors from AIIMS ,MAIDS and MANIPAL made big names in USA….nowadays we see any tom dick and harry prepares for GRE,TOEFL AND IELTS and makes plan to move to USA and canada,while most of them have bought there degrees through cash or backdoor entries they start to squeeze and twist the system while studying or doing job in abroad countries as MR PARAG correctly noted.Here all the problem starts they lure other immigrants and there same community members in their home countries to do menial jobs inCANADA and USA.just see the number of H1B visa frauds in usa mostly done by telugus as they are very much clannish as community.
A lot of unemployed people in Canada have found a new way to make money where they make Youtube videos and sell Canadian dream. If you go to Youtube then you will find many videos that say come to Canada it is a beautiful country. These videos will say that you will begin with “survival jobs” and then you will need to get a “bridging” degree and doors will open for you. These videos will give you stats. where survival jobs start at $14-$16/hour and professional jobs will pay you $60K-$90K. Some videos will also tell you how to apply for unemployment insurance and sit at home for 10 months. Others will tell you that if you have kids, you can get $250 per kid insinuating that if you have a lot of kids then you may not have to work. It is all rosy picture to encourage more views so that the poster earns ad. revenue. The bottom line is that Canadian immigration will only increase and people will land in Canada, spend all their savings and then return back to where they came from. There is too much misery all over the world and people are looking for some hope so they will take whatever chance they could get.
i heard its 500 dollars per kid in montreal
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Canadian government bankrolls some of those snake oil salesmen on YouTube.
College graduates are ending up competing to work for free, and university graduates are doing unpaid internships.
You might as well work in a factory for $14/hr and earn $2,400 full time gross ($2,000 net after taxes and EI rates), but to rent an apartment here in Toronto, it’s at least $1,700 a month, and a TTC metropass is almost $200.
So you’re left with $100 a month for food, but a quick run at Tim Hortons for coffee break is $5-$10.
i heard you need to earn atleast 50k just to survive in toronto,and this amount of salary is not easy to earn for an immigrant
I live in vancouver. toronto is chaotic but thats why i dont like big city. Paris is way more rush. Anyway, you just proved my point. some poeple especially us immigrants cant afford to think in other ways whatever the reason. we feel that if we dont acheive high positions, we are failure in life.
do you remember 3 idiots the movie? what did they show there? its still unthinkable that someone can be just a photographer. so these indian movies are trying to change india’s mindset, not the rest of the world. it is not important to me that we dont have microsoft or beoing division in canada. vancouver is an outdoor state with many beautiful sights and physical activities to enjoy. there is nothing wrong with that.
tell me this…what is the point of all the complaining and when will it stop? The point is canada has to change to your ways and only then will you be happy at the cost of many younger generation’s unhappiness. my sister and dad are very career focuesed but i am not yet i am happy the way i am living doing a small research job with holidays and clean safe enviornment. so does that mean they will impose their way on me? if you like to be IT engineer, find where those jobs are and stay there. if one loves painting, he/she should find where is the best place for that but life will not change for any of us. there are many things i can do such as start international business, help tackle poverty in africa in every way i can but if i dont, or do world class break through research in cancer but what if i dont. At least i am not hindering it.
I agree with Parag on the fact of many indians who come here. They think they are super smart and embodiment of success when they come here. no wonder many of them are hated by people because they have obnoxious attitude.
The only thing i really agree with you is that canadian government is lying to people by saying their degrees will give them job in same field. this is a point on which the govt can be sued. Other than that, nothing is technically wrong.
Salman that is my issue: Educated immigrants being fooled to live in Canada under false pretenses. I could care less if someone with no education or status wants to come here as long as they integrate and don’t act mean to others.
Just by speaking classy and good english indians or other immigrants think they have jobs lined up for them in canada,as they have some sort of superiority complex along them.After coming to canada they realize that western nations have plethora of young graduates who are more intelligent and are more skillful than there same counterparts in third world countries.Just take the example of computer programming and MATLAB, which is taught in the high schools in countires like USA,while indian software engineers cant even think about learning all these coding language till there graduate program.
Ofcourse anybody can make good money in india,the point is that these ambitous doctors and hig end professionals are disenchanted by indias poor quality of life and are looking for self gratification just by migrating to canada.Thats when the snake charmers in the form of canadian immigration agents come to give them false hopes that there credentials will be accepted and they will be very soon allwoed to practice there professions just by giving few exams and spending few thousand dollars.Just add these few thousand dollars to half million immigrants it becomes almost billion!what a nice scam by these 21st century canadian ponzi scheme
I don’t get these upper class Indians who want to live in Canada to live like the untouchable dalits (lower caste) people.
They could always vacation to Europe and live a very luxurious vacation, and still bank it in India fleecing the poorer classes, but no, they get fooled by the immigration consultants to forfeit their upper class standards to live in cockroach basement and end up working in factories or begging for social welfare or even panhandle on the cold and impersonal streets of downtown Toronto.
I’ve read on another blog, that international students are living in cramped conditions, and are dying in house fires as 20-30 students are packed into a bungalow (one story house with basement), and having to pay over $1,000 a month for this “privilege”.
Canada might have a small population of 36 million people, but cities like Toronto are cramped because of lack of housing supply. It isn’t strange to see 5 or 6 families living together inside a rental house. 5 to 6 FAMILIES, not units.
Except IT based jobs there are no good jobs for immigrants in canada,rest of the sector has really crappy job market, hence one can expect to work as menial labourer for years before finding full time job
People who have skills or capital can succeed anywhere in the world, but once they step foot in Toronto, they decline, degrade, become poor and live in suffering.
I’ve read somewhere that a doctor from India wasted over 400,000 dollars Canadian living his first years in Canada, and then returned to Delhi as a penniless man. He eventually got up back on his feet with NOTHING in India, but 400,000 Canadian dollars only made him poorer in Canada.
Despite of the rumours that canada is worst for IMGs why these indian doctor set his foot in toronto/canada?
Who could oppose the multi-million, if not multi-billion dollar PR and marketing agenda of the Canadian government? They spend hundreds of millions on campaigns and over a billion to reinforce the lies to foreign nationals through local and international media. They also monitor blogs and websites which are critical of the immigration scam and they censor and shut it down!
Do you think those in India will listen to a random blogger, or a well-paid millionaire government shill wearing suit and tie and spreading false hopes and lies that Canada is a dream land?
The Canadian government spends a few billion to promote a false image, but in return the country receives BILLIONS and over a few decades TRILLIONS of fleeced monies and assets from gullible immigrants.
Let’s face it, India is hardly a perfect country and Indians are hardly perfect people. Most people from India think they are clever to game the system. I meet such people all the time and they bring chaos to the western world. As soon as they land, they start their clever ways only to find out that western countries (US and Canada) value harmony more than short cuts and cleverness to success. So, no Indian is going to buy that they are not going to be successful. I mean there are these guys who get their medical degree by paying a donation. What kind of jobs do you think they will get in India? They think that they can land in Canada, go through some exams and start minting millions. They do not do any research and when they land here they realize the mountain they have to climb. I think there are a lot of Panjabis in Canada who did not get a lot of education, came into Canada with family-based immigration and drive trucks. I think those people are probably very happy to be in Canada. If a doctor is really successful in India then he will not consider coming to Canada because India pays well for specialists who work in private hospitals.
Parag, most of those con-artists who bought their degrees in India and Pakistan usually end up as real estate agents or scammy immigration consultants anyways. They adapt.
What I have issue with is that these same scammers, in collusion with the Canadian government LIES to immigrants abroad that Canada has jobs waiting for them, and that they should liquidate their assets, bring everything to Canada, and end up spending everything with no chance to return to their homelands.
I’ve met migrants from Egypt, Madagascar, Caribbean, Brazil, and many other countries who regret moving to Canada because they were told a lie.
Canada doesn’t bring in poor immigrants as the local cakers complain when Canada brought a few refugees from Syria, Haiti and failed African dictatorships.
It doesn’t do justice that an educated man and wife from an emerging continent would be fooled to live in Canada and end up on social welfare or working dead end jobs.
Canada has lower fertility rate and hence less population than india.subsequently it has lower gdp than india,still many educated indians are flocking to canada thinking they will create wonders by getting high paying jobs,maybe they are disillusioned with the poverty,chaos and pollution of india and are looking for some really good quality of life and living standards. Maybe canada seems perfect utopia for them but still it has CONS just like any other developed countries
India has a very low GDP per capita, less than 10% of Canada’s.
There are over 300 million Indian citizens who live on less than US$1 a day there.
So what surprises me is that the upper-middle class and upper class of India are flocking to Canada cleaning washrooms, cleaning the TTC subways and serving coffee at Tim Hortons as if they are low wage workers living in the Arab emirates.
I understand if Muslim Indians and Sikhs want to live here, as India is becoming hostile towards those groups, but well-off Indians are coming here to live like second class citizens. That I don’t get.
Hi Shiva. You dont get the last part cause it doesnt exist in your world. every human is different. some people like career satisfaction while others like other things in life. Canada for me is wonderful country with its strongest point being low population and second strongest point being clean enviorment and so on goes the list. some people study philosophy while others go into STEM fields. you cant say one is obsolete.
i just came back from a holiday in paris yesterday. while i loved it, overpopulation and chaos is visible. such things dont exist in canada which is why i like c canada more. paris is 2nd biggest economy in EU but that doesnt impress me. i like a more stable peaceful stressfree life with an average earning. majority of asian countries dont see it like that so they only go for better economy. Likewise, i prefer NZ or australia. sydney is like NYC but NZ cities are amazingly scienic and boost a good quality of life which i will always prefer.
my sis lives in NYC and she keeps telling me to come. i dont want a rush lifestyle. BTW, there are different schools of thought….positivist, interpretism, and others. google them. you and Parag are definately positivist as you see only the hardcore data in one view. thats not how life is…just that it is for you
do you reside in Urban or rural Canada?
Toronto is as crowded just as Paris per capita, because the entire GTA commutes to Toronto for work, increasing the working day population to almost 8 million every day rather than the 2.9 million who are registered by the census.
Do Indians in NYC pay $20,000 a year in tuition, then beg to work for free after graduation like in Toronto?
I once accidentally disbarked at the central station in Toronto at 9 AM. I have never seen a more crowded place in the world. Those lines only move one way and I had to go the other way and it was totally impossible.
Downtown Toronto is where the jobs are at, which means that the entire Ontario region commutes there to work. Union Station might have almost 10 million travellers daily to work, sight-see and travel.
It’s very crowded during rush hour, because the Toronto subway lines were built for a late 1940s population when Canada population was only 10 million, and Toronto with only 500,000 to 900,000 people, and didn’t factor mass immigration planting another 150,000 gullible immigrants to Toronto every year.
They are building a new light rail line along Eglinton, and it will be available by 2021. Traffic is terrible along Eglinton Avenue and it doesn’t help that they are building tall condos to facilitate “global capital” which America would refuse as the money is afoul of the laundering acts.
usa has a separate set of problems rising gun violence,heavy healthcare costs and anti immigration policies plus rise of white nationalism will surely hinder the social harmony in american society.but i still beleive those who migrated to usa in 80s and 90s from india are well off and took the right decision
Comparing America to Canada is comparing apples to oranges. First, 90% of Indians who immigrated to Canada would not even make it to USA. At least Canada allows people to come there. In the USA, an Indian doctor cannot come directly because he will not have a job. Actually, all those Indian doctors complaining in Canada that they have to clean toilets can come to the USA if it were that easy. In fact, many Canadian doctors want to come to the USA for lower taxes and higher wages but they cannot come here.
I live in the USA and I am not worried about white nationalism at all. You would be worried if they had a modicum chance of doing something. The reason there is a white nationalism is that they realize they cannot do a damn thing about diversity. America will be all minority country in less than 25 years. If whites do this white nationalism thing too much then they will end up paying for it within their lifetime. These race wars that whites think will come will never happen because non-whites are least worried about diversity. Every passing second America gets more diverse and money in America is distributed more evenly across races.
yes few of your points seems true like canada is not usa,i feel canada is not even 10 percent of USA.it is blown out of proportions by the canadian media and immigrant consultants,maybe because major canadian cities are within 100 miles of america.Job opportunties,research facilities,market potential all other economic parameters are unfavourable in canada as compared to usa,basically canadian economy is just equal to few combined states of USA.now coming to immigration,immigrants feel that all the hunky dory life is in toronto and vancouver only, not realizing the sheer cost someone has to bear while living in this cities while doing menial jobs.
The Canadian media and the scammers working in the immigration law firms earn their bread and butter by falsely luring foreigners to migrate to Canada when there are no jobs. These law firms aren’t going to Yemen or Somalia looking for refugees; they are looking for wealthy Asian foreigners to spend their money here in Toronto.
canada is a country of debt for every one dollar earned,canadians owe 1.70 dollar which results in poor purchasing power and limits the household to spend more on consumer goods,still Canada comes under developed economy while indian household has much better purchasing power than most of the developed nations,sounds strange to me.
Don’t worry Indian purchasing power will erode soon. These developing countries get a lot of low-interest loans and grants from the World bank. India and China are starting to get cut off from these and soon they will have to be on their own. India is already becoming a high tax society. It will be unlivable country soon. There are many reasons why India is a developing nation. Among those are corruption, poor environmental standards, poor law enforcement, child labor, educational standards (no Indian university in top 200), poor human development index, etc.
Indians who live in the USA seem to do very well compared to Indian migrants living in Canada. I know for a fact that America only hires on TN1 visas before Trump, and there isn’t a rosy picture given to immigrants to live in the USA unless they prove to themselves they want to be American.
Immigration lawyers fly to India and tell young people on campuses that Canada needs everyone, and that Canada allows them to live as Desi Indians, when the reality is vastly different. Canada is fooling people in India to come here and live under an occupied government ruled by Queen Elizabeth. There is no freedom in Canada when it comes to free speech and owning a business.
If you’re a doctor or powerful individual in India, sure you will live like royalty, but coming to Canada when you were a doctor or elite of India and the locals will talk down on you while they force you to clean their toilet bowl without any gloves or breathing masks.
canada doesn’t recognize foreign medical credentials inspite of the fact that there is severe shortage in rural and undeserving areas of canada.this clearly shows the insecurity of canadians towards international medical graduates.
The point is that these public relation liars and lying immigration consultants lie to those living abroad that Canada has jobs in their field.
Lots of doctors from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and China are encouraged to re-do high school Grade 12, study an entirely new field and they still wouldn’t get a job in any case.
Someone told me that a doctor from India went back to do his Grade 12 at an adult school, at age 41, and then he spent another 4 years studying for his college degree, and after he couldn’t even find a job then, he jumped over the Bloor-Danforth viaduct, surprisingly, the school where he did his Grade 12 was not far from there.
Broken dreams and promises for the professional and educated immigrants. It has gotten worse as racist attacks are increasing and Trumpanzees are harassing Indian and Muslim women on how they dress. There was even a middle age Canadian man tearing off the dresses of Muslim women in the Royal York/lower Etobicoke area at a bus stop, while ignoring the local Canadian women who also wore dresses, though much shorter. This would never happen in NYC, as he would have gotten beaten up.
i even heard that most of the female students in toronto are doing prostitution as a side business,since the cost of living and tuition fees is too much,i even heard from reliable sources that they have become sugar babies in large number and they earn even more as compared to white collar jobs in canada.
Those persons doing those types of services will become the future educators, scientists, doctors and leaders of tomorrow! Prostitutes!
Will doug ford do a donald trump after winning election?it seems he will allow all the white supremacist groups to operate freely under the table when he comes to power.
Doug Ford is already a Premier of Ontario, and he’s more fiscally conservative and like to pander to the wealthy regardless of race. He doesn’t preach race-based politics like Trump, but his supporters incorrectly believe that he does.
Doug Ford is more likely to give free government incentives to corporations and the wealthy Canadians than tweet divisive topics. He’s more of a businessman than a politician.
If you’re referring to federal politician Andrew Scheer or Maxime Bernier, then yes, they would start a race war in Canada because they encourage ‘white nationalists’ to exercise their ‘free speech’, which is usually harassing immigrants, posting death threats to immigrant groups and places of worship, and sometimes a mass shooting in mosques, temples or synagogues.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/csis-students-university-campus-1.5226970
Canada is a country where immigrants are spied on, because of unsubstantiated fears of Canadian locals. As if terrorists have the time to join student unions and social justice causes.
It doesn’t matter if you’re a Hindu or Muslim, all brown skin people are considered Muslims, no matter what their faith. Hindu temples were burned down in Peterborough and Windsor, Ontario a few years ago.
Justin Trudeau claims that Canada is accepting of others, but I beg to differ. Spy agencies have no right to spy on students because they are Muslim. They have to obtain reasonable cause that those students are planning a crime. Why did the spy agencies allow white nationalists to harass immigrants.
I met my old dentist friend who finally cleared canadian equivalence exams after 7 years! he spent around 50k dollars to clear this whole mess dont know when he will earn all this invested money.Definitely canada ACCREDTION PROCESS is VERY tough and costly for a foreign trained dentist
I’ve been telling you this all along and you’re not believing me.
I’m not a crab in the bucket type of immigrant. If I see Pakistani, Indian, Asian, African, Caribbean or any other immigrant doctor becoming doctors here within 5 years of moving, rather than driving taxis, serving pizzas, delivering food, cleaning toilets, sweeping floors and other dead-end jobs, I would encourage you to come.
Don’t ever be fooled by Justin Trudeau taking selfies with every identifiable group and smiling. Canada is a paradise for those who are poor and living in countries of extreme poverty, and are able to get government-paid housing and welfare once arriving in Canada.
For an educated doctor or lawyer from India coming here to spend $100,000 within a year settling, and only finding toilet cleaning jobs is a spit in the face.
One of my friend is an IT engineer in london and he is earning 50k pounds per annum,still he pays most of his income in rent and taxes.He lives hand to mouth and sometimes repents why he came to london,when many of his friends are doing great in there home countries and are living in posh villas.I think that the problem is with indians and pakistanis families where going to canada is seen as a social status,rather than an economic or professional advantage.Whether an immigrant drive taxi or work as janitor he always shows off in his native country that he lives a lavish lifestyle there somehow.
Canada a social status by leaving their high caste lifestyles in India to become janitors and taxi drivers?
Are those people stupid or do they worship whites because of the history of India being pillaged by the British? India was used by so many European countries there are several European settlements which exist to this day such as Goa, Ponducherry and other places I can’t recall.
everybody says canadians are friendly,no they are not they are polite to your face but are xenophobic and hate down in your heart since they are jealous of immigrants driving high end cars and living in posh rowhouses
Canadians, even Canadians living in multicultural cities such as Toronto are absorbing hatred for non-whites like a sponge and are far worse and subtle in their racism compared to Americans, who view racists as backwards people.
A newcomer here will NEVER afford to rent a room inside a basement apartment, much less drive a beaten down 1990s model Honda Civic and afford the insurance. Everything is higher in price compared to the USA.
Car insurance is $190-500 a month, but in the USA, this is lower to $25 to $100.
Gas prices are 25% higher in Canada compared to the USA, though Canada boasts of 180 billion barrels of dirty and tarry oil sands which pollute the area.
Canada of today, especially Toronto, is not the same as it was in the 1980s.
There are no longer success stories of migrants from Asia, the Caribbean and Africa coming here in the 1980s, and are retiring with a higher standard of living than they were if they were back home.
You will be condemned to packing boxes and cleaning public toilets until you DIE! You will not be able to afford the food here, much less the rent which dramatically increased by over 500% for the past 10 years. You could get a 3 bedroom apartment for $1,000 back in 2009, but the same apartment now goes for over $2,000 plus you have to pay your own utilities.
The unspoken truth of Canada is that racism is growing and discrimination against non-whites are increasing, albeit subtle and unlike the Trump way of yelling “go back”.
Racial tensions are increasing and the sunny ways government is refusing to acknowledge this. Canada has suffered from several mass shootings by racists. The government hides such stories from immigrants to paint a rosy picture of Canada.
I am now OBSERVING from some known sources that immigrants are been snitched by there white neighbours and that the government is spying on immigrants like tracking things what they post on youtube and other social media.It seems canadians dont like immigrants who earn good money and live a decent life,with time canada will absolutely become police state.
If you’re deemed a Muslim, even if you’re a vegan Hare Krsna devotee, they will harass you and treat you like a Muslim.
There is growing hatred against Muslims and brown people in general, even in “multi-cultural” cities such as Toronto. Racist slurs attributed to Pakistanis are hurled at Tamils, Hare Krsna Indians and even Caribbeans who have Indian and Asian ancestry.
Local pale Canadians are bigoted, and they will harass, spy, falsely report and hurl racist slurs towards brown immigrants because brown people tend to be less violent than other ethnic groups. Local Canadians will never racially harass someone who is Black, because they know once they cause problems with one Black person, the entire “crew” returns and put these bigoted Canadians in their place.
Indian and brown immigrants are very peaceful in Canada, and they are easy targets.
Canadians are adopting the anti-Black racism of the USA and using it against all non-whites in Canada, such as calling police on non-whites for being in “white areas”.
What does that have to do with the prospects of newcomers getting a job in their fields? Crimes like murder happen everywhere, though some crimes would be new to those living middle and upper class lifestyles back home.
They will be living in slums of Toronto and they will face social ills that they have never endured, such as their sons becoming influenced by unsavoury elements or daughters becoming prostitutes for wealthy Bay St. bankers, and there is NOTHING that a parent can do to stop it, or else they get locked up and the daughter or son gets more rights than the parents.
My issue is that well-educated, affluent and established people in their home country are coming to Canada and end up living as second class citizens and cleaning floors and offices while living in slums.
I could care less if someone who is poor and living in mud huts wants to come here for a better life, at least they have food banks here. But for professionals and affluent professionals, why would you come here to live as peasants and suffer?
now gun shooting incident have started in canada,yesterday one australian couple were shot dead on highway near british columbia
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This website is so glitchy with pop-ups, I can’t even right click, and the comments don’t show up after posting, even if under moderation. Is it a bug or is it a way to discourage comments critical of Canada’s false dreams and hopes, I dunno.
whats the scope of foreign trained dentist in canada?
Struggling to find general labour and janitor jobs.
The medical profession is very cliquey, and locals will not allow one to become a doctor unless they retrain for Canadian standards. This is not the NHS of the UK where foreign trained doctors just have to pass a few exams and sessions, and Volia! they become doctors.
Canada doctors and the medical profession are very localized and they don’t accept foreign doctors that easily.
I’m aware of college graduates being offered jobs on the condition that they work for free for “Canadian job experience”. We’re talking of students who spent tens of thousands of their own money, and Canadian employers only want them to work for free pay.
Meanwhile, the boss’s son or daughter will graduate from the top universities in Canada, take a first class flight to a “third world country” and own a business and live like Kings and Queens, but the locals will migrate to Canada and end up living like beggars.
If that isn’t a continuation of colonialism, then what is?
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Trump told a few congresswomen to go back to where they came from, and referred to those countries in the most dissing way.
Trump is stoking the flames of racism, which gets emulated in Canada.
Law-abiding and enterprising immigrants from India will be shocked that they will be hassled on the streets of Toronto and lumped together with Islamic extremists, and told that they are refugees or Trudeau brought them to Canada under a Soros conspiracy to flood Canada with illegals. It’s appalling.
Life in middle east is better for educated and highly skilled professions according to you?
Where did I say that the Middle East is better for skilled professionals?
Why are you adamant on leaving India when you seem to be high caste and upper class in the country? You seem to have disdain for the Middle East, so I’m assuming that you’re not a Muslim (which would explain it as Muslims are facing tensions in India).
Point is, you will face hurdles and obstacles in working as even a dental assistant in Canada. The medical profession is closed-door, and is unionized, which means that those are not part of the club will not become doctors.
I am a dental surgeon from INDIA interested in moving to canada,but somehow deep in my heart i always have a doubt about the endless struggle in this cold country
If you are well settled, why even think about moving out of India?
They always end up stacking boxes, sweeping floors and cleaning toilets in Toronto or Montreal. They don’t listen man!
The sad part is that many of these mature newcomers are angry with everyone once they realize their destiny in Canada, instead of complaining to the lying government officials & sketchy immigration lawyers for fooling them into coming here.
I arrived to Canada at age 14, and I’m underemployed. I could imagine a professional newcomer in his 40s or 50s having to clean public toilets and struggling to fend off homelessness in Toronto. This is the reality.
Canadian jobs tend to be protected through associations who maintain the status quo of hiring only Canadians, while blocking immigrants from working in those professions.
Canada is also becoming very costly to live, and to be honest, what makes your case different from the thousands of immigrants from India who have to work dead-end jobs until they die prematurely of cancer, mental breakdowns, diabetes and other ailments which become aggravated when living in Canada.
Andrew Scheer is about to become PM of Canada this Autumn, and this spells increased racism in Canada. The Trump Effect is also in Canada, though very subtle and extremist.
Canada needs welders, construction workers, and truckers. However, it uses education as a screening policy to weed out uneducated people coming to Canada. So if you are a dentist, you will be told that Canada has a lot of unfilled jobs. If you read that as jobs for dentists then that is your problem. Your education can get you an entry in Canada but Canada does not have jobs in your field. If you want to use your education as entry credentials and then take up a job as a trucker then you will be perfectly fine. If you think that you will come here as a dentist then you are wrong.
But still life in Canada is better as compared to india and dubai,i mean no pollution,less traffic,clean water etc.Would you advice anyone who is well settled in middle east or india to immigrate to canada?
Less traffic?
You surely haven’t heard of the gridlock and transit woes of Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal!
If you want to come here to clean toilets and mop floors for the rest of your life, while your wife and daughters disrespect you and you can’t do anything or else they will send you to jail—then go ahead. Come to Canada as a janitor.
Parag, I’m a university graduate who couldn’t even find a job in my field since 2017! I’ve been doing temp work and Starbucks barista jobs for the few years after I graduated in Chemical Engineering.
Alberta doesn’t even have jobs for chemical engineers these days, because the large oil companies have laid off thousands of engineers, journeymen and even office clerk as downsizing is present, and most of the oil is being invested in offshore Newfoundland.
I don’t get why Indian nationals are painting a rosy picture of Canada, even when they are well-off in their home country. Why would they leave their affluent life in India to clean floors and toilets in Toronto?!
A guide to surviving in Canada as an immigrant:
1.) Do not believe the propaganda about Canada being such a great, friendly country. It is deeply, deeply racist and the majority of white people will be “nice” to your face but as soon as you turn around they will stab you in the back. It’s because it has been disconnected from meaningful cross-ethnic and racial interactions for its entire 150 years and has been food sped delusions about its white superiority. The aboriginals have been too politically powerless and numerically small to really do anythign about it
2.) If you are able to find and nurture community and friendships in Canada then it may not be as difficult to deal with the other terrible things about Canada (lack of culture, lack of true civility and soul, lack of every-day intellectual pursuits, lack of actualy acceptance and welcoming, lack of lack of. Oh, and Canada is a haven for pedophiles and perverts, so protect your kids)
3.) Be prepared for being passed over in work for a white colleague or a person of color who is more palatable to the white upper management. Because you are not white you will always be a threat unless you are able to prove to them you are not. Which usually means de-fenestrating your soul
4.) Never, ever, EVER give up your culture, language, belief system or your cultural reality even though there will be massive pressure for you to assimilate (the official term is “integration” but thats just the liberal multicultural racism showing) completely. Bear in mind your children will also carry that burden and will most likely have to go through feelings of shame, inferiority, isolation etc unless they DO assimilate. Are you prepared to put your kids through that?
5.) Be prepared to clean toilets like someone above said. The accreditation process is terrible. The point system wasn’t invented to help immigrants gain a real foothold upon arrival, it was meant to “weed out the undesirables”. Meaning: you are good enough to be a doctor in your country of origin, but in Canada only good enough to do entry-level labor jobs thus not threatening white Canadian economic advantages too much.
I am noticing that thousands of indians are moving to canada every year in the guise of express entry just for the better pastures,but do they ever realize the truth and harshness of these western countries where you have to work till your grave just to pay loan and mortgages.Are they not aware of the deep struggle they have to endure while migrating to canada,why doesnt any immigration consultant tells all these on there face?
I’m aware of college graduates being offered jobs on the condition that they work for free for “Canadian job experience”. We’re talking of students who spent tens of thousands of their own money, and Canadian employers only want them to work for free pay.
Meanwhile, the boss’s son or daughter will graduate from the top universities in Canada, take a first class flight to a “third world country” and own a business and live like Kings and Queens, but the locals will migrate to Canada and end up living like beggars.
If that isn’t a continuation of colonialism, then what is?
Someone posted that one has to get a resume and do mock interviews for janitor jobs? Is this still happening in major cities like Toronto?
And let’s face it: Canada is not a landmass, but only a few major metropolises such as Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal.
Rents will eat over 50% of your earnings, that is, if you can even find a job. I suspect that many job postings are fake and intended to make it appear that Canada has a thriving job market. Fake job postings as in those jobs don’t exist, and when there are interviews, they will say, that the job is already given to a ghost employee.
Recently i met my senior colleague whos a leading practitioner in one of the leading cities in india,hes earning 12-15 lakhs inr per annum.Though he cleared first two part exam of canadian licensing dentistry,i warned him not to go to canada as canadians dont want non white or brown dentist. Even after clearing all exams he has to work at junior level dentist,plus high cost of living and taxes makes it worse for an immigrant.I dont see any special upgrade upon practicing dentistry in canada as compared to india for him.
He will be lucky to even get a toilet cleaning or factory work if he moves to globalist cities like Toronto. If he’s smart and moves to suburban Canada, he will have to install grills and alarms at his property because racists will vandalize his property. There are stories of self-employed immigrants who have to constantly clean racist grafitti and board up their windows because the racists don’t want them in their backwater small towns.
The world has followed the teachings of Adolf Hitler and facists, and this is seeping into Canada.
@Parag:
I was helping a man in his 40s with some applications for toilet cleaning jobs. His career spanned working 15 years in some of the most elite banks in Asia and Africa (Singapore, Malaysia and South Africa).
He migrated to Canada with his family six years ago. He brought with him $85,000 in Canadian equivalent from his home country and within a year, he was at his last penny. His Landlord kicked his family to the curb because he was unable to renew his lease without proof of income.
His wife did some housekeeping work for minimum wage, and he spent several months doing temp jobs such as cleaning offices at the graveyard shift because he was lured into studying part time for a Canadian high school diploma. Despite a dual-income couple, many landlords were refusing to rent them apartments, and he now has to rent a larger apartment because his minor child has become a teenager and wants their own room. It is also “child abuse” to have a teenage child sleeping in the living room.
He now has to apply for full-time work, and he can only find toilet cleaning. I helped him with his resume, cover letter and did a mock interview with him for this toilet cleaning job. His wage would be only 15 cents above minimum wage, and he has to lift 70lbs+ on a regular basis without the use of automation or machinery.
Canada has brought remnants of British slavery, but worse, because educated immigrants are being coerced indirectly to beg for toilet cleaning jobs. This should be a concern to the International Human Rights Court.
To be fair, for the most part, Canada and Australia became free in 1982 and 1986 respectively. Until this point, the UK parliament had the right to disapprove any changes in the Canadian constitution. I have read the Canadian constitution and it is a mess. Nothing is straight forward. The rights of citizens are not clearly written. Words such as traditions and culture are used, which can have a wide range of interpretations. Individuals and collective rights are emphasized. Most of it sounds British. The British never wanted Canada or Australia to be free so they tried to hold power over them. After World War II when America became a superpower, it tried to break the British monopoly. to open up markets for American products. This may have resulted in the British loosening grip over these two countries. To make things worse, people in Quebec sometimes want to have their own separate country. The native Indians/Cree are pushed up north and are provided poor infrastructure so that they cannot travel and assimilate in Canada. The natives lose benefits if they breed with non-natives because the resulting children are not considered natives. As a result, natives are inbreeding and banging their first cousins just to keep their benefits. Multiple languages, multiple cultures, multiple rules and regulations will lead to restricted opportunities. The Canadian constitution will look the other way when problems arise. It is not a constitution that has clarity as to what exactly are Canadian values. Without clarity on any aspect of life, Canada is a rudderless ship.
The Queen of England owns most of the land in Canada, called “Crown Land”. One has to obtain a permit to enter those “Crown Lands” or else the RCMP (Canadian equivalent of FBI) sends helicopters and armed cops to arrest those “trespassers”.
If you ever played the game Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and played the part of entering a military base, this is what happens when one enters Crown Land. Armed cops will arrest those “trespassers”.
Canadian experience I think Canada will become canakustan in 10 years due to influx of illegal immigrants from middle east and the whites will become minorities and resort to ultra right wing violence
Racial tensions are already growing in Canada. Racist European Nazi supporters bring their Hitler ideologies into Canada, and they commit hate crimes against anyone who looks Muslim or follows Judaism.
Hindus are not spared from anti-Islamic hate crimes because there are stories of Hindu temples being burned down by racist whites. Police will never find the perpetrators because they support this in their hearts.
Immigrants have to volunteer; ie work for FREE, to gain “Canadian experience”. It used to be $1,000/month to rent (2009) a one bedroom in the Toronto neighbourhoods of North York or Scarborough, but rent is now $1,850+ for the same apartment (2019). It’s still the same concrete shoebox with a history of hauntings or a murder site, but the rent has skyrocketed in Toronto. Inflation doesn’t explain this increase of almost 10% annually.
So Canada goes and gives asylum to that saudi woman who had barricaded herself in Thailand hotel. Pretty soon more freeloaders from Saudi are going to come to Canada.
They are increasing the immigration cap to 350,000 and refugee cap to 100,000 yearly until 2021. Prepare to pay $2,000 a month to rent a roach-infested studio (no bedroom) apartment.
Wait a minute…Saudi Arabia is a wealthy oil country with 100s of billions of barrels of oil, why would they flee to Canada?
A rich country with monarch is really not rich as Monarchy takes away 50% of the wealth. They offer tax-free incomes so that they can have full control on the population. Anyone can be accused of anything and beheaded. Even Jamal Khassogi was killed in Turkey embassy and no one in Saudi Arabia is allowed to question. Anyway, it is the women in Saudi Arabia that are running and feminist in Canada love the sisterhood of rescuing them. Women were not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia or even seen alone without a man. It is hell so they flee and ask for Asylum. The problem is that these women may not be aware of all the taxes they have to pay and work they have to do just to survive. The amount of tax money that Canadians are going to invest in her will really go to waste. This woman will probably work as an escort because that the only way you can earn tax free money in Canada.
True. I’ve read of stories where Saudi Princes spend tens of thousands of dollars a night for their prized Caucasian woman who shockingly doesn’t get held at US Customs when returning from those Dubai-esque countries.
Escorts are a dime a dozen in Toronto and Montreal but Canadians, especially middle class and upper class women, side with Bible-thumpers to make such a trade illegal, though I would shudder to think what would happen if Canadian men are denied these services as dating is tough. Dating is where females get modern values, but men have to stick with 18th century values.
So this new Canadian taxpayer’s Saudi princess has strange views about Canada. She wants to make her own decisions, get an education of her choice and a career of her choice in Canada. All paid for by Canadian taxpayers. She did not bring a dime to Canada and has cut off all ties with her family. What an entitled person!
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/15/americas/saudi-teen-asylum-intl/index.html
Millions more of these “Empowered” Saudis are going to seek asylum in Canada. Contrarily, refuges who have a case will have to wait until their heads get cut off by a cartel to be approved for asylum.
This woman has already lost in the Canadian system. She does not know English. By the time she learns English and gets an education, she will be 26 years old. Until then she is not earning and is a burden. Canadians are hypocrites. The bring worthless people and make them strain the system. Next, they lie and bring legal educated English speaking immigrants, who bring money with them, and drain the resources they bring while keeping them unemployed or underemployed. There is additional foolishness that I have noticed among Canadians. They think that they are loved in the world for their values and Americans are hated. Well, as an American, all I see is more hypocrisy. You can talk about all the feminist and liberal values and even generosity of how you rescue women from oppression. None of that matters when you have discrimination written in your constitution. The Canadian constitution does not believe all humans are created equal because it puts the queen at the top. This kind of human idolatry is evil. The foundation of Canada rests on such evil.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2019/01/18/under-the-gardiner-we-check-in-on-each-other-thats-kind-of-the-reason-to-be-here.html
Canada is a feminist country. They will offer free housing, jobs and monthly stipends for this Saudi feminist, but mostly men, will have to sleep on the streets under a bridge while the feminist refugees (femfugees) get free modern housing.
Public housing is scarce in Canada that a man has to wait 15+ years for a consideration for tenancy, but this Saudi Arabian princess will get free housing of the best stock. She is probably living in an upscale condo with 24/7 concierge security.
Educated immigrants from India who would become successful entrepreneurs in the USA, former British, French and Dutch colonies and some parts of Europe: they will be CONDEMNED into a perpetual fear of homelessness and destitution because of intellectual discrimination.
Canada does choose the best immigrants and then make them beg for toilet cleaning work.
Canada also brings in the most low class immigrants and train them to attack educated immigrants under a bizarre form of socialism. Social workers will tell low class migrants and refugees that the educated middle class in their home countries are oppressors, and they must attack them and make their lives miserable when they migrate to Canada.
Educated immigrants from India might as well learn Dutch or French and relocate to former British, Dutch or French colonies.
Canada uplifts the gutter stench, and brings down the educated immigrants.You’re exactly right. This Arabian princess from a backwards country will be taught to promote an agenda.
That is why I love the right to own guns. These Canadians show up in America for all the feminist protests. It is all fine in America, but if feminism really takes hold in the USA then women will start getting their asses shot and women in America know it. Equality is what I signed up for in America. Any quotas would just be unacceptable. In a country when people have the right to own guns, everything hangs in a balance. Everyone is watching everyone else. The only way to keep the peace is a commitment to equality. Any significant biases will be correct by the government as it knows what would happen if such corrections are not made.
Canadian feminists brainwash women immigrants to hate their husbands, fathers and sons. It’s an industry. Bring in millions of immigrants, refugees and international students yearly, and then have the paper pushing government workers teach them how to hate men.
These women will break from their families, husbands and communities to work in a factory for 60+ hours a week to pay half of those wages to rent a crappy apartment, and quarter of the wages for transportation costs which take 4 hours of a woman’s day.
When she reaches 65, her pension will barely pay for her apartment, so she has to downsize and live in a government-funded retirement home or apartment complex, and no one will talk to her until police and paramedics discover her several month decomposed corpse after complaints of a foul odor in the apartment building.
This is Canada for you. Unlike the USA melting pot where everyone is a community despite the hard grind lifestyle of cities such as NYC. Canada is worse.
It is well-known fact that human idolatry is bad and evil. What is worse is that Canadian PM openly mentions that he is feminist. I cannot imagine any US politicians saying that because that is “gender idolatry,” which is entirely unconstitutional and against the principles of inequality. Not only the Canadian constitution recognizes discrimination by giving recognization of inequality and idolizing monarchy, Canadian PM openly brags about discriminatory gender biases.
Americans are generally polite and would not denigrate political ideologies of other countries. They will play stupid. However, that does not mean that we do not know or notice bad things. We notice bad things in other countries so well that we actively fight hard to keep America from getting contaminated from these bad foreign ideologies.
In fact, the only way a society can remain united is when it commits to equality. Politicians play favorites to divide a society to gain power. This is exactly what the Canadian PM does with his feminist declarations, which actually reflects on Canadian society as it is complicit in such ideologies.
I meant principles of equality and not principles of inequality.
parag exactly india is also commonwealth,but still better than canada and australia who treats immigrants like slaves. Atleast an indian will become manager in his own country inspite of reservation but a doctor from india will be bound to work as a janitor in canada simply because he dont have any bullshit canadian experience.Canadian experience is just a part of corporate corruption which boosts third grade canadian universities by increase in there revenue through immigrants funds.
If you’re migrating to Canada, they will not recognize you as a doctor unless you complete Medical School, complete Residency (which is biased against immigrants in favour of Canadian-born females), and also pay dues to the Canadian Medical Association.
There were cases where immigrants who used the “Dr/MD/Phd.” designation but lack Canadian experience who were given warnings from the unions, professional bodies and government, in most cases, warnings of jail time.
Common, Canadian universities are not all that bad. They are excellent. In fact, Canadian universities are one thing that Canada should be proud of.
yes very few canadian universities are world class,but most of the universities are average and in par with manythird world countries
International students are being scammed. Why would anyone spend $25k+ a year on tuition and live in rooms for $1,000 month to work $10/hr baffles me.
Free speech doesn’t exist in 99.9% of Canadian universities located within Ontario.
American professors, political activists and even homeless pick up artists get huge protests where the protestors get violent and accuse anyone supporting such Americans conflating with war crimes.
Warren Farrell was a professor who had to quit his talks after students pulled the fire alarm and forced everyone to evacuate the University of Toronto campus. A student who supported this criminal behaviour became famous “Chanty Binx”.
i even heard that in small cities and outskirts if any male migrant talks to any random female in bar ,he kight be killed by jealous and racist white males around her,all in the name of diversity of canada.Canada is no less racist country than many EU countries
If one is brown in complexion, they are lumped together with Muslims. You could even refuse to eat beef, and they wouldn’t believe you’re not a Muslim migrant. Canada has imported nasty racism from Eastern Europe and Germany.
@ Parag, I only dont agree with your suggestion that your dividend is being cut at the expense of the things you mentioned. you are very capitalist minded. i have same argument with my sister who is in US and has her way of thinking. you cant see that canada is a socialist country? the point of human being is not to just generate money. that’s what capitalism consummerism is based on. i know you admire that. it is causing the middle class to vanish. the rest of the world doesnt want that. they are trying to establish a stable middle class first then we can talk about reaching for the stars.
if it was upto you, you would buy the indian govt too. people have other things in life to deal with, not just work 18hr/day. someone working 14hr or 12 is a lost soul.
The only thing i agree with is canada should stop catering to the freeloader who dont have any genuine excuse to not work. they just reaping the benifits of other people’s work.
The problem with humans is that “..they are trying to establish a stable middle class..” This is the same argument Obama made and that is how human misery begins. Some person decided what is good for society and then gives power to the government and then government abuses people. The world is full of winners and losers. What the world does not need is people who hold power. I will always be against socialism. Even American capitalism is not 100% capitalism. America has its social programs and welfare. What America does best is to keep those programs as small as possible. This allows America to keep both taxes and inflation under check.
What many have noticed within Canada is that mediocrity is celebrated while innovation is stifled and punished. There is no room for entrepreneurship in Canada, making Canada no different than a 3rd world country with an image of free healthcare and a 1st world cost of living.
It is the same crap as India. Deserving people are not paid good wages, and reservation quotas give more opportunities to incompetent people. The government assumes power and tries to distribute wealth and debt waivers to people who do not manage their money well. The rationale the government gives is that it is trying to bring disadvantaged people out of poverty. No one wants to live in such countries. It is best that the government has as little power as possible. This is the only way hard working people work hard as they get to keep the money for themselves. In fact, the British loved socialism so much that they coined the term “common wealth.” Basically, it is that you do all the work and then put your earnings in a common pot from which I also take your earned money. Everyone wants to be managers in such societies and no one wants to work. So they go and find immigrants who not only bring money but work hard, pay taxes and go back to their own country of origin once they can no longer work. Even then the Canadian government comes in and takes an exit tax.
Immigrants fail to realize that Canada is an entirely different country than the USA; a huge mistake for many who think that they can work their way to the top, especially in cities such as Toronto, which is the only large city in Canada.
Nepotism and cronyism exist in Canada, but under a cloaked extent, and employers here have to hire strictly women, regardless of qualifications, or else be sent to the Social Justice Tribunals for discrimination. Canada is on the process of giving 2-years paid maternity leave that employers must pay, or else be sued at the SJTO.
Educated immigrants will have to work cleaner jobs and fast food jobs because even a job like the trades or security guard require way more exams, testing & paperwork compared to the USA.
Canada does its best to give the run-a-round to immigrants who want to work in their fields.
I can repeat this millions of times, but anyone from outside Canada who is a lawyer, doctor, dentist, surgeon or high-paying profession WILL RARELY, IF EVER, work in those fields even if they pay $30,000+year for redoing university courses.
Many of these immigrants will spend the first 5 years in Canada struggling to work as a factory helper, toilet cleaner or fast food chef.
Immigrants will not get entry level jobs in their fields, even if they do a 2-yr diploma or 4-yr degree for “Canadian Experience”.
Those jobs are reserved for Canadian-born teenagers these days at the government places which offer way higher incentives and government pension benefits than working 50+ hours in a 21st century immigrant labour camp.
then why many indian immigrants are migrating der,inspite of knowing the shortcomings?
Promotion. Canada spends billions of dollars opening satellite offices around the world promoting Canada as a place to immigrate. This is similar to the USSR’s propaganda machine.
To immigrate to the USA, they plainly tell you to get a job or sponsored before moving. Canada encourages middle and upper class immigrants to come without a job and saying that there are jobs here. Lies.
@Parag
see this is what i meant. you are a positivist. you wont change your mind. you see everything in terms of win or loss. you blame qoutas for helping the unworthy people. the purpose of humans is not just to win at any cost. we spoke about this before. the govt gets voted. if you talk about fairness, then the govt should also look after the population who are losers. that’s the job of a human being. otherwise, we can get robot as leaders to run our society with programming built in that the rich can only pay for to run it in their own likeness. you are sick!! just like your vision, i will never support capitalism or communism. we need to have balance which is socialism. the capitalism of the USA has is destroying the planet and now they talking about mars so they can destroy another place
Canada has government colluded capitalism which is fascism. Only a few families own 99% of the business industries in Canada, even worse in Quebec where a set of families and the Mafia owns most of the economy.
yes true i heard there is lot of nepotism and red tape while searching jobs in canada,plus the unions and other monopolies make finding jobs for immigrants tougher and many even have to work for very low wages just to garner experience
Humans are greedy by very nature and Capitalism is acknowledging the truth. When I go to a socialist system and start spending money, I see people looking at me jealously. This includes Canada. Socialism is hypocrisy where truth is denied for some emotional nonsense of social justice. All people in socialist countries are trying to make money. Most rich in Canada are trying to evade taxes just to keep more of their money for themselves. I do not care what people say about the USA. We are Capitalists and we will remain Capitalists. Keep socialism to your country; and enjoy a lower standard of living, higher taxes and long queues in hospitals. I prefer the American lifestyle.
Activist groups, from the Communist Party to the upper class feminist wearing D&G glasses and $1,000 heels, never question why Justin Trudeau and his Liberal cronies are the biggest tax dogers and their finance Minister operates a company which facilitates tax dodging by the uber-wealthy elite.
No, they harass small businesses and wage online smear campaigns against middle class men. Feminists in the USA demand that Trump release his tax returns, but their Democrat senators are suspected of evading taxes and collecting bribes, becoming millionaires overnight.
salman capitalism is for winners and ambitious people,not for losers.Why would a doctor or scientist work so hard if he will be paid the same amount as clerk or the nurse is getting in salary.There is no concept of reward or incentives in communism,you just have to work and slog like a dog and in the end of your life u will feel theres no difference between you and a labourer.All this for a Ponzi socialist system called communism,to run this stupid system they need lot of muscle power,thats why communist regimes were the most brutal and bloodthirsty regime in history.Many talented sportsman from Russia and other eastern bloc migrated to west in 1980s to live a good life and fulfull there dreams,as they didn’t have money to fulfill there desires in communist regimes.Canada is good for low skilled immigrant(who are not ambitious)particular muslim and African refuges,they get the work of janitor or labourer while many don’t pay taxes and enjoy funds in the form of EI(employment insurance)
Canada is socialist that they spend billions of dollars into coercing foreign countries to tailor their laws to Canadian gender policy, but a homeless Afghan-Iraq war veteran suffering from PTSD is left to die on the frozen streets.
Canada is going full-blown crony communist.
Canada is a country where the educated immigrant from India or Pakistan will have to be bossed around by a refugee in a minimum wage job. This is the reality.
Those lower caste people who live in shanty towns back home, will rule over the educated immigrants and destroy their dignity in the process. This is Canada and their identity SJW-feminist politics in action. Canada doesn’t care if you were a surgeon who saved lives in India or Iran; once a refugee or feminist boss doesn’t like you, out you go into the -30C weather and likely to be harassed by nationalist groups who beat homeless people to death for fun.
What Canada lacks compared to India and Pakistan is a hierarchial order. A doctor in India or Pakistan would never be treated as a dog. Even dogs are treated with humanity in Canada. They have hospitals for dogs, but people can’t find a hospital without long wait times in Canada because of overpopulation in the cities.
exactly in the name of equality and freedom, educated and highly skilled immigrants from india and pakistan are lumped with the freeloaders from arab and african countries
This is why educated migrants should think very hard before coming here.
Canada is becoming no different than racist European countries like Germany or Poland.
It is not over population but under capacity. The problem with socialism is that government cuts funding on capacity expansion and infrastructure and pays in benefits. People see benefits and think that overpopulation is leading to crowding. For nearly 350 million population, when I need an x-ray done in the US. I am in and out in 15 minutes because I get a list of 10 places where I can visit for x-ray.
True, and Canada is a monopoly and we don’t have 100s of cities to move to, unless it’s some backwater town that is underfunded by design.
Brampton Ontario has grown by 50%+ in the last 10 years, but only has one major hospital. Population is currently 800,000 (2017), but will increase to 1,000,000 by 2020-2021.
Canada views that forcing everyone into the 4 major cities, Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal is “sustainable”.
canada will not cut off freebies as it need immigrants money to run its multibillion dollars business,and more and more stupid and naive immigrants from india and pakistan are applying for express entry every year,thinking that express entry is like some lottery that will change there life.
The conclusion of the posts is that life is not rosy anywhere,if india has problem of pollution and poor infrastructure then these western nations have high cost of living(specially high taxes),intellectual racism and bullying as demerit.Many indians are fascinated by the hunky dory of the west(mostly due to hollywood movies) as its obvious they havent seen these infrastructure anywhere in india,meanwhile they spend lakhs of rupees for immigration hoping to migrate to there so called dreamworld,after immigrating they realize they have to start from bottom,living paycheque to paycheque for years before finally settling in there field.Canada wants most of the immigrants to earn 30-40k,once an immigrant starts earning beyond 40k they erect barriers and make excuses to fire him/her from job thats where intellectual racism comes into play.Even after working 5 -10 years an immigrant doesnt have any appreciable saving due to high taxes and high cost of living,then they realize they were far better in there home country,but now they cant go back as they are caught up in these vicious cycle of economic slavery.
Immigrants even struggle to find volunteer positions, as in unpaid work for a foot in the door for paid work.
Can you believe that immigrants are told that they have to work for free by someone who is getting paid a lavish salary compared to the average Canadian?
How can Indians willingly work for free under a country whose Head of State is the Queen of England? Heck, even England isn’t as snobby as the elitist culture of Toronto.
Canada has adopted elitism that would make British nobility of the 1500s blush in embarrassment. Long ago, Canada did need immigrants to serve tables, clean floors and work low wages, but now even Canadian-born citizens fight for these jobs. Don’t be fooled by the fancy condos and paid advertisement columns, an immigrant will have to struggle for decades before even earning $30,000/yr.
seems iike Canadian experience u have lived and experienced a lot in canada,ur comments are very harsh and to the the point.Truth is always bitter,canada is just a public property of queen england
Lots of aspiring immigrants sell their houses, land and companies to live in a very costly Canadian city, and forced to work as indentured workers. It pains my heart to see successful people being lured into a trap.
Canada must be poor financially and mentally if they have to deceive people from poorer countries to bring everything that they have, even for generations, to spend that in Canada and then get tossed aside once the money runs out.
An Indian immigrant once chorused, “If you’re educated you wouldn’t be homeless in India, but in Canada, you can have a Phd. or doctorate, and you’re one paycheck away from living on the streets”.
Canadian stock market has given me shitty returns so Canada is financially screwed. I blame freeloaders in Canada who are mortgaging the country’s future for freebies. The government is incompetent as all it cares for is giving freebies to freeloaders by bringing in immigrants with money, taxing rich in Canada, taxing tourists and corporations. There is more. Canadian companies appear to give generous holidays and wages to their workers at the expense of cutting dividends to investors like me. The feminist based entitlements are further cutting productivity. The result is I have stopped investing in Canadian stocks. I will never do it again. I am keeping the investments that I already have only for the sake of diversification.
Canada is bringing in more worthless refugees to give them more freebies. The uncompetitive Canadian market is not going to attract money so it may survive on scams for a while but the long-term future for Canada is dim. It has gotten to a point that Canadian government is unable to even fund its NORAD responsibilities. Canada wants America to take over the responsibility of protecting North America. The cheapsters want to stay in the F-35 program to keep jobs in Canada, but want to buy cheap European fighters to save money. Enough is enough, it is time for Canada to cut off freebies and get its fiscal house in order.
The Trudeau government has given billions of dollars to feminist organizations, and bailed out the Canadian-propaganada media outlets which promote a feminist agenda.
Corporations within Ontario are always in fear of a sexual harassment or discrimination lawsuit by a woman, and this creates huge red tape for businesses who have to spend millions of dollars into lawsuit and insolvency protection as one complaint, whether unfounded or founded, can result in a business going under and receiving harassment from activist groups.
Canada police shoots innocent female passenger, seems canadian police is learning from US police regarding how to shoot suspects.
Police here don’t care if you are upper class or poorer class; they are trained to use machine guns if the suspect only breathes erratically. The Toronto Police have guns which can pierce through concrete pillars, and tasers which can induce heart failure in those with cardiovascular problems & this is why many Canadians are afraid of going out because getting into police issues is like facing death these days.
A sewage rat or cockroach would have more rights than you if it was a female in Canada. Men aren’t treated with respect or faith in Canada because the system pits women against men, and the uber-elite who own 90%+ of Canada’s local economy promote this as no one other than them will live the American Dream.
Only in Canada would educated doctors end up driving taxis or cleaning toilets until they die. I know of stories on websites where many men had their wives divorcing them, their children complaining to Children’s Aid for cultural differences and eventually some men end their lives. [which were mysteriously forced offline by the Canadian gov’t].
America doesn’t do this to foreigners because one would have to get sponsored by a company or government policy in the first place.
Canada lies to foreigners and then when those foreigners immigrate, they are doomed to poverty and bad luck, because the system is rigged that no one will get rich or wealthy, except a few. There are rarely any stories of immigrants making it big in Canada, and those few got rich by the USA industries.
@ Parag: I’ve noticed that many educated Indians and Pakistanis are scared of migrating to either USA or Canada because of the same issue—bigoted people from Canada and America lump them in the same category as illegal migrants who invaded Europe.
Even the Caribbean folk who usually migrate to have a higher standard of life, are hesitant of moving to Canada, USA or Europe because of fear that they would be lumped together with illegal migrants.
I’ve read on forums how Trinidadian men whose ancestors came from India and central Asia are being lumped together with illegal migrants from Syria, a country located far away from their ancestral homelands.
One person I’ve spoken with saw a Caucasian Canadian man attempting to attack a Sikh youngster in broad daylight. These bigoted people don’t know the difference between anyone who isn’t from their street.
America is a Capitalist country and that makes a lot of difference. I faced a minor dispute in where I live, I called cops. Cops ran through my name and instantly believed me. Why? Because I am the biggest tax payer where I live. If I get upset and leave this place then the locality loses tax revenue that I contribute and cops will have to take a pay cut. In fact, the whole dispute was out of jealousy because I make a lot of money and people do not like it. Once I called cops, everyone is put in place as the pecking order is established and no one messes with me anymore. That does not mean that I am arrogant, but my humbleness was considered as weakness by some people. In American jargon, people tested me.
To your point, do not come to America if you cannot strike rich. It is a country for the rich. If you are average or poor then you will face constant harassment in America. You will be treated with disdain because a Capitalist system chases money all the time. If you do not have money then you are worthless. Cops are not going to listen to you because you are not contributing revenue towards their salaries. A lot of people who fail to make it in America will consider Canada as heaven.
I also have a right to own a gun and a right to defend myself at home so no one can do anything to me at home without getting shot first. My home is my domain and my own laws prevail in that domain.
Capitalism works in other ways too. Every city is trying to raise its tax revenues, so all cities will be welcoming cities. No one wants bigoted people who would turn away rich immigrants who are source of potential tax revenue. As a result, US law enforcement is the best in the world to keep communities safe. Yes, you may have gun shooting and killings, but at the end of it, the shooter is either dead or caught, charged and convicted where he will likely never be free again. If the shooting is racially motivated then the death penalty is on the table.
With all that said, the human envies and perceptions may exist in the US as anywhere else, but there are not too many incentives to act on those envies. If you act, you are crushed because people do not want their property prices falling because a city gets a bad rep. Rules in America are very different than the rest of the world.
Thats my point many immigrants club jealousy and racism together this may be case for canada and australia,but usa is far more liberal in giving opportunities to immigrants as compared to canada and monarch australia both of which are property of evil queen
Yes, to a great extent this is true. When you come to the USA, you will rarely see low level jobs done by immigrants. Wealth is evenly distributed among all races in the USA, and you cannot judge anyone based on how they look. In fact, when I enter Canada, immigration officials in Canada always seperate me and question me. Then they send me to secondary immigration check where they are totally embarassed because as soon as they put my passport in the computer, they realize that I have been visiting Canada for over 20 years and I spent over $100,000 in my trips alone. On the contrary, when I come back to US. The only thing US immigration official says is “Welcome to the USA.” I am done in 15 seconds. American decision-making at all levels is computer aided decision making. People make fun of how Americans cannot count money, but they do not understand is that Americans are not supposed to count. Computers are supposed to tell them how much money they should return. The human aspect of judgement is taken out of common American behavior. When computers are used, decisions are consistent and it does not matter which human is standing behind the computer. Additionally, the decisions are also efficient.
Many immigrants believe that Canada is polite version of USA, but in reality its a heterogenous land of immigrants living in a cold country north of USA. Number of jobs/opportunities are less as there is very less recognition and value of talent. Tell me one thing or any field in which Canada is ahead or has a name of its own except Blackberry. Most of the companies are US-based and most of the jobs are in trades, so there is nothing for highly educated immigrants here, most of the universities and colleges are just above average with faculty even worse than that are teaching in third-world countries. 100k dollars jobs are reserved for white Caucasians.There is a definite glass ceiling for immigrants beyond which they can’t progress or being promoted in job.
In liberal Canadian cities such as Toronto, if there was a dispute between an upper class man and a Canadian woman, the man would get his property seized, arrested, and forced into bankruptcy because of a Canadian woman with a feminist agenda.
Countless numbers of businessmen are packing their bags and leaving Canada solely because the women are causing legal issues to their businesses and livelihoods.
America has been receiving the trickle down effect of the social ills of Canada (#MeToo), but this has been going on in Canada for decades, and kept censored from the international eye.
There are so many Canadian businesses which have to set aside a legal fund for trivial lawsuits. A business can get sued for even implementing a dress code, if it offends a social agenda.
Doing business is very risky in cities such as Toronto, that some employers deliberately refuse to hire certain backgrounds of men in fear that those men will offend a female co-worker.
There are two things I like to add. I own Toronto Stock Exchange index fund in my portfolio and I realized that it is the worst performing stock market in the world for the last 10 years. There are two reasons for this: First, Canada has become an entitled society, and second is these feminism based liberal strategies are coming to hurt the Canadian economy. While people are complaining here that immigrants cannot find jobs. I think most people in Canada cannot find jobs. Canadian laws are making it harder for small businesses to thrive. There are revenue limits beyond which taxes are imposed. The carbon tax is also becoming a contentious issue. The second thing is that Canada imposes “exit” tax. If you plan to leave Canada then Canada is going to make you pay as well. So Canada will scam you into coming to Canada and if you barely make it and buy a home and acquire equity worth $100K and then decide to leave Canada because your career is not growing or going anywhere, Canada will give you an exit tax bill.
Canada was not always like that. It was a better country with happy people 15-20 years ago. Everything has changed so fast. If it continues on this path then things will get really bad 10 years from now. Even mainstream media is noticing drop in Canadian productivity. Being a smaller economy, it cannot attract funding either so immigration remains their primary source of revenue.
Rothchild controlled feminism has destroyed canada along with liberal immigration from third world countries,its simple the country which allows so much of immigrants is bound to fail and collapse
100k is for slum house u need atleast 300k-500k to buy a condo,so ur entire life is blocked being a slave of this mortgage,its new kind kind of western economic slavery where u work for loan and bank,the bank and the government robs you of taxes and loans,ultimately u realize you work so ahrd and slog ur a** everyday just to pay loans and taxes,where is ur happiness?and god forbids if u lose ur job the bank takes ur home,cars everything and will throw you to die on cold streets of canada where even ur friends and close relatives will fail to recognise you.How many indians have u seen in top management positions in canada and australia?
Canada is now under a feminist-communist occupation that many businesses have to be very careful if they offend a Canadian woman, whether she is employed with the company, or whether a customer or random person.
There was a story where Ritz-Carlton and other 5 star hotels were sent to a Social Justice Tribunal because a random woman went 100+ miles to Ottawa and demanded that she be nude at the facility’s swimming pools.
She sued the City of Cornwall, which is in SE Ontario and went hundreds of miles north to Ottawa, almost near Quebec, to coerce several hotels into allowing her to be naked at their family swmming pool.
@Ashu, $100000 can’t even buy a plot of land in Ontario, unless one wants to live way up north where there are no roads, no infrsatruture, or even signs of life.
The policy of the government of Canada is to force everyone into the cities, Agenda 21 policy.
Why would an upper class person from India work under an illiterate refugee who got a job because of working years before?
Canada forces educated and upper class immigrants to work with what one would call “undesirables” who would be illiterate and living in shacks of overpopulated cities in Asia.
This would be a slap in the face for an educated immigrant to be bossed around by such people because jobs are scarce in Canada. Why work as a general labourer or janitor and be bossed around by the lower classes?
Theres no probelm in legal immigration as it benefits the nation and immigrants both,but what canada practices is unhealthy immigration where it lumps both high class and low class immigrants into one group called second class workers for doing blue collar jobs.Canada never nourishes nor accepts talent of overseas immigrants,for them all immigrants should do blue collar jobs and pay heavy taxes for subsidizing its older citizens.Trump intentions are dangerous and it gives boost to white supremacist ideas resembling that of ku klax clan in early 1960s.
my friend says dentists earn more in canada than usa, then i reminded him about the heavy taxes in canada which is about 40%. so u will never become rich in canada unlike usa. Canada is for low ambition refugees everything is 1.5 times costly than USA, and how many immigrant dentists and doctors enter canadian system its just 5-10% unlike USA where immigrants have fair chances to assimilate in the system.
Hearsay isn’t solid proof…Salaries are lower for entry level dentists while those who are White Canadian-born and graduated in the 70s and 80s are making the highest amounts.
There is no way an immigrant doctor will earn a higher salary in Canada because they would be struggling to even be hired for general labour jobs for $14/hr in Toronto. Rent is $1,500+ hydro for an apartment that was likely the scene of a meth lab, prostitution or a murder scene.
It’s a bad omen to be living in such places of negativity.
@ Parag Canada is a 3rd world backwater country compared to the USA. The cost of living in major cities like Toronto has skyrocketed because of too many illegal immigrants moving to one city.
Trump isn’t “racist” for stopping illegal immigrants; what would happen if 1 billion illegal immigrants planned to stay in Los Angeles or El Paso? Toronto is suffering from a Malthusian rat experiment where they import millions of random people into a city of 10km NS and 30km EW.
I am not denying the higher cost of living in Canada, but socialism and freeloaders would lead to a higher cost of living. The 15% GST/sales tax is a robbery. There is more. Higher hourly wages in Canada keeps most things closed. Just go to food courts in Toronto Eaton center and you will see most things are closed at 10:30 AM. Most shops are open only between 11 AM and maybe 8 PM and then everything closes. Trump is a problem. The problem is an “intellectual” problem because he does not separate between illegal and legal immigration. He just uses the word immigration and lumps everything in one category. That is stealthy racism because he is hurting legal immigration. Guess what? We are going to fight hard to remove this bastard. The new Congress comes in on Jan 3 and Trump will be gone in 6 months. Either he will be impeached or indicted. And don’t let anyone fool you by saying that it depends on how new members of Congress interpret Trump’s actions. Trump impeachment is not an option but it is a mandate. If Democrats do not do it then they will be considered weak. In America, weakness means death. Either democrats project strength or it is all over for them.
Trump told a few congresswomen to go back to where they came from, and referred to those countries in the most dissing way.
Trump is stoking the flames of racism, which gets emulated in Canada.
Law-abiding and enterprising immigrants from India will be shocked that they will be hassled on the streets of Toronto and lumped together with Islamic extremists, and told that they are refugees or Trudeau brought them to Canada under a Soros conspiracy to flood Canada with illegals. It’s appalling.
What many of you middle and upper class professionals from “third world countries” don’t decipher is that many of you will be working under lower class immigrants who will boss you around and give homage to the Canadian-born oppressor.
Jamaicans used to say: Why would I leave a crime-ridden parish of Jamaica to live in a crime-ridden Canadian ghetto?!
Canada depends on 80% of exports to the USA, and right now Trump doesn’t like Canada for subsidizing Canadian industries as it’s unfair for the USA.
Once Trump tells Canada to pound sand (take a hike), the economy of cities like Toronto will collapse. It will be worse than the 1990s recession, way worse.
America has enough talent, billion-dollar businesses and worldwide trade that if America collapses, the entire world goes down with it; this almost happened in 2008 when Wall St. suffered a recession.
The NHS in the UK doesn’t allow applications from international doctors to become licensed in the UK? Sounds new to me.
Canada is open for immigrants and refugees, but good luck finding a job, even a cleaner or trash collector job as they are unfairly competitive.
What used to rent for $1,000 back in 2013 now is listed as $1,500+ this year. A 50%+ increase of rent in 5 years, Unnatural given that the birth rates of Canada are low compared to other countries because of social engineering.
Security guard jobs in Canada require the applicant to clear exam, this statement gives true facts regarding certification and barrier created by Canadian government to reduce competition.
Many immigrants who pass these hurdles are working for minimum wage, while the higher paid security jobs go to Canadians.
Discrimination in Canada acts as an intellectual prejudice. The smarter you are, the more you are discriminated. In the USA, the more smarter you are, the likely you will be respected. Huge difference between Canada and USA.
Canada brings in millions of refugees, but have them living in the major cities, which jack up rental costs.
What used to be $1,500 for a two-bedroom apartment can’t even pay for a room in Toronto right now.
You could have never immigrated to the USA without a job. Health care in America is not free. Only refugees are an exception, but refugee admission policies in America are very strict. Canada and Australia with their liberal welfare schemes are home of trash from all over the world.
Australia is becoming wiser now they have hardened the rules of PR.you need an employer to sponsor you then only you will get a visa
Australia is same like canada where immigrants are accepted to do menial jobs and blue collar jobs,all white collar jobs are undertaken by white caucasians like canada.The only good thing is that blue collar jobs are paid well but so is the cost of living.Whats the point of immigrating from third world countries to these pseudo developed countries when u cant save anything and your entire salary goes into paying rent and taxes.only usa does the fair justice to immigrants and to some extent gulf countries,canada and australia are running 21st century East india company luring highly educated immigrants for menial jobs.
Trump is a smart man and one big strong guy who works for the welfare of common american citizens unlike obama and all deep state operatives who worked for big corporate and capitalist firms,putting common american citizen life in risk.But the media will potray trump as evil man as they have there own agenda,unlike pseudoliberal trudeau who potrays canada as welcoming country,but he is running a slavery camp where all third world citizens and refugees specially from syria are asked to do labour and menial jobs,trump is very clear regarding immigration policy,first fetch a job then only immigrate to USA.
Trump is a smart man. China is more angry with Canada than the USA.
Let the foreign investor gravy train come to a halt.
Only in Canada do they allow foreigners to come with millions of dollars cash to purchase condos, no questions asked, but if a Canadian, especially a single male, tries to withdraw his own paycheck, he is flagged for money offenses.
Downtown Toronto has all of the perks and most of the contracts to maintain streets and hospitals, but once you start venturing into the city suburbs like North York, Scarborogh and Etobicoke, one can see how poorly the city’s infrastructure is relative to major American and 1st world cities. Scarborough looks like a 3rd world country because the roads have pot holes and traffic lights regularly don’t work, even in the summer.
Even the transit quality of extra-boundary towns like Mississauga, Brampton, Vaughan and Markham surpass that of the Toronto Transit Commission. York Transit used PRESTO electronic payments for fares five years before Toronto is transitioning to Presto.
What amazed me was that Chinese cities like Shanghai have way exuberant quality of transit, healthcare, roads and public services compared to Toronto.
Montreal has collapsing roads and bridges, and jobs are very hard to find. That leaves the potential immigrant to choose between Toronto or Vancouver for jobs. Unlike the USA, Canada only has 4 or 5 major cities for jobs. The small towns and remote areas don’t even have DSL or Broadband internet!
Where has all the wealth of Canada been squandered to? Even oppressive regimes located in the Middle East have grants they give to students to live in their own apartments and houses, but Canadians have to pay 10-20X their annual salary to buy their own house. Shame on Canada.
usa and canada are in decline,the future belongs to india,china,vietnam and other emerging third world countries.China is leaps ahead of canada in every aspect,and much safer than the gun trottling america,usa has over 1 trillion debt from china which no media discusses just to mislead the world that america is a superpower,though usa infrastructure is much ahead than canada and one of the best ,but you can still see the newyork subway in dilapilated condition and many of the stations are not well maintained and even dont have air conditioner.
USA is never in decline. It has built a military for a reason and that is to contain other countries’ growth and prosperity. China has already sold a lot of US debt to boost its currency due to US sanctions. Russia did too. American economy is $20 trillion economy and growing. The vast amount of American debt is owned by Americans including me. And yes, we are proud of our guns too. It keeps us free. It also allows us to give guns to any rebellion in any country of any oppressive regime like Syria. People around the world may not like it but we believe that right to gun ownership is a god given right. How else you can confidently say that a person has right to life?
Most governments do not like their citizens to own arms because they are afraid that their job will become extremely difficult. We prefer our government to do difficult jobs. If you never solve difficult problems, you do not create prosperity. China created islands on South China Sea but it cannot protect these islands from US taking over. US regularly sends ships closer to the islands and China has to constantly perform military exercises to show its might. China’s military expenses are going to skyrocket and building these islands was the most expensive foolish decision China ever made.
In coming 10-20 years russia will be new superpower,only russian military have the ability to challenge usa and nato allies,Cold war ghost will surely haunt usa in future,meanwhile usa has its own set of problems like gun culture and heavy violence,drug abuse among teens and adults. I would prefer UK over U.S.A to work and live,but sadly uk has closed doors for immigrants.
Keep on spewing negativity. Russia’s credit rating is junk bond status and India is one notch above junk. China is somewhere in the middle. It is funny that people criticize US debt when it is the highest credit rating possible. There is something called NATO. Russia cannot be a superpower. It is smaller economy than India and if it messes with any NATO country it picks a war with entire alliance. Russia does not have credible second strike capability in the form of nuclear submarines. If NATO nukes Russia first then it is all over for Russia. You need second strike capability in form of nuclear submarines, long-range stealth bombers, foreign bases and an economy to fight all NATO countries together to be a superpower to challenge the US. The breakup of USSR reduces the size of Russia and targets that NATO needs to strike. Even Ukraine is sliced from Russian influence. America is keeping Russia busy in both Ukraine and Syria. Just like it is keeping China busy in South China Sea. America will always in the mild state of war with other dominant powers. This reminds those dominant countries where America stands and how much they could lose if they challenge America. This strategy actually reduces the risk of full fledge wars.
Canada will allow 3000000 immigrants till 2020 I feel shuddered what jobs will all these immigrants do
They will pay more for renting a haunted apartment located in a crime infested ghetto area of Toronto.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if anti-immigrant sentiment will become worse like how it is in Poland with foreign students mysteriously falling off buildings on the first day of their studies as a foreign stuent.
Will there be opportunities for a draftsman with 10 years experience? i am 35 years old, in my mid career. i would like to migrate with my wife who is a lecturer with 3 years’ experience, who is 28. is it worth to take risk? my job in the gulf has no guarantee. i am losing job now and then. the career is not going steady.
In Canada, it doesn’t matter how many years experience you have, or even if you’re Bill Gates or Einstein; all that they care is if you have “Canadian experience”.
You also should be wary of the education as your wife and daughters will become victim to Anglo-feminist brainwashing. They will be taught to hate all men except the male CEOs and elite who get off scot free with employment violations.
Also, if you plan to work in the trades and blue collar field, you will have to register with a union. But, since you are a newcomer and immigrant, unions will make life difficult for you to access the jobs and licenses to work, and you will be forced to spend over $50,000 in education at a college or university to gain some “Canadian experience” by studying and working the last semesters as an apprentice….but even then, many employers prefer to hire Canadian women for jobs because the country is feminist and they will give jobs to Canadian women over everyone else, even if those denied have more education and experience.
Indians are being murdered by racist whites in European countries, and y’all act polite to them, when they travel to your country of India?
Many Canadian migrants come from Poland, Germany, Netherlands, Russia, FSU blocs, and some of them bring their fascist and Neo-Nazi garbage to Canada.
Absolutely i have seen submissive and pathetic indians boot licking the whites and europeans, calling them sir sir in every minute conversation as if they owe us something. i have met many americans and white citizens who are dumb and average joe in real life, most of the shopkeepers in usa can’t calculate simple maths involving addition unlike india where most of the shopkeepers are good in accounts. We indians think that all the europeans and white race are more civilized and intelligent but the reality is just opposite of what we think, they are polite and civilized until indians and all brown-skinned people do menial and blue-collar jobs in there country, once we star to occupy important managerial positions they become highly insecure and racist. The entire foundation of these white nations is based on murder and genocide so i believe they are more uncivilized than indians.
You are a racist person yourself. Seems like you have an axe to grind. It is one thing to speak the truth but it is whole another thing when every post start reeking of your racist views.
i am telling the truth, i have no axe to grind. except the usa, every other country follows institutional racism, u can judge my views as racism as we are living in free world.
I have read most of your comments and have observed how your opinions seem to have gradually shifted.Hence, I have no doubt that you’re in fact a CANADIAN government shill pretending to be someone else! I have especially observed your determination to downplay the very real existence of racism in Canada and that for me was the evidence I needed to realize that you’re not who you’re trying to portray.SMH
An Indian man who drove a taxi once told me: I used to manage large infrastructure projects in Bombay, but why is infrastructure poor here in Toronto?
I don’t know much about America but the infrastructure and economy of Canada are dwindling and becoming 3rd world where the Top 5% become richer, the middle class shrinks and the poor become poorer.
TIP: Coming to Canada here with the minimum $20,000 is peanuts compared to the low-income cutoff for survival in Canada which is around $35,000/yr for a single person and at least $96,000/yr for a family of four.
Yes, the infrastructure in Canada is very poor. I live in the USA. Some of the things I see in Canada are plane horrible. Many bridges have iron rods, which are supposed to be inside cement slabs, are visible. Most roads do not have much of a shoulder. Ramps do not provide much length so that traffic can merge smoothly. A few years ago, a bridge in Quebec province just collapsed. Canada is barely surviving. Recently, US is trying to extradite some Chinese Heuwei company CFO for violating Iranian sanctions. She got PR in Canada by throwing money and owns properties in Vancouver area. Canada has milked money from Chinese growth story. That gravy train is losing speed now.
White peoples success come from killing and pillaging other races.
More than a month after Manpreet Kanhaiya died after falling from his fourth-floor apartment in Poland, his family in Brampton, Ont. is still trying to figure out what happened.
Kanhaiya, 22, had just moved to central Poland to study at the Medical University of Lodz at the end of September.
There are millions of unanswered questions.
– Jaswinder Kanhaiya, Manpreet’s father
Police are investigating, but Kanhaiya’s family said they’ve been told it could take between three months and a year before authorities know what happened. Jaswinder Kanhaiya, Manpreet’s father, said he wants to rule out the possibility of foul play.
“These things will come only into light when there’s an investigation,” he told CBC News.
“There are millions of unanswered questions.”
Jaswinder Kanhaiya dismissed the idea that his son’s death could have been a suicide, saying Manpreet was in good spirits and eager to begin his studies when he last saw him.
“He was a perfect student, he was a perfect son and a perfect brother.”
Kanhaiya’s parents travelled with him to help him get settled on Sept. 28 before heading back to Toronto via London. After they didn’t hear from Manpreet for two days they contacted the landlord at the off-campus private dorm where he was staying, who told them he had accidentally fallen from his fourth-floor window in the early morning hours of Sept. 29.
Kanhaiya was hospitalized but died of his injuries on Sept. 30.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-student-manpreet-kanhaiya-s-death-in-poland-a-mystery-1.3302681
u have to spend 25k to clear all the exams and register as a dentist in canada,after that u have to settle in rural areas as Toronto since Vancouver is saturated with dentists, there are racial barrier in medical and dental profession in western nations which no one want to discuss such as the patient might refuse to be treated by brown dentist. Though u will earn approx 40-50k in starting,most of your income will go in paying rent and taxes,i would say garner 2 more years of experience and apply for endodontist jobs in gulf where u could easily earn 40L per annum(approx. 65K dollars) which is tax free income and much better than slogging in cold desert like hailfax and novia scotia,where u will find lot of rednecks
Woman demands ‘white doctor’ for son at walk-in clinic – YouTube
Video shows woman making several demands for doctor who ‘doesn’t have brown teeth’ and ‘speaks English’
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Fast food worker jobs are competitve in Canada.
So u advise me to practice in India?I have seen many Indian dentists preparing for exams hoping that they will earn 80k once they clear all the exams
I do not get why people in India think that they can just walk into Canada/US and there will be a job waiting for them. In the 1960s, manufacturing paid really well and you had unions. So a lot of people worked for manufacturing companies and got fat pensions. During those times, no one would go to college. You graduate out of high school, get a blue collar job and then retire with a pension. Only during those days, North America welcomed immigrants for professor and doctor jobs because no one wanted to pursue higher education. Traditional manufacturing has dwindled since then and people have started flooding into white collar jobs. What you have now is Canadian getting higher education and finding it harder to get jobs. The result is a construction of barriers for foreign competition. You may call it institutional discrimination (not racism because discrimination is not based on race). This discrimination happens because voters want it to protect their interests. Thus, you get regulation and run around in form of certifications, Canadian experience, etc.
I am not sure what do you mean by Indian dentists preparing for exams. If you are getting your degree to enter Canada then that may be OK. You just have to drive trucks, clean toilets, work as a cashier, etc. If you want to practice dentistry then you become a threat to locals and they will pull a rule book on you to make it impossible to practice. You have a professional practicing dentist lobby that will create barriers to protect their interests. These guys donate money to politicians to get legislation passed to curb foreign competition, preserve opportunities, and boost wages. The Canadian government will not tell you this because it wants the money people bring into Canada, and by the time you understand the game, it is too late. If you have the right expectations then you are fine. If you think that you are going to come it and start earning high wages then those days are long gone. Times have changed.
On a personal note, I do not think 80K is good money in city like Toronto. If you plan of living alone then you will barely scrap a living. Rural areas might be OK. If you have to live on hourly wages then Canada is a hellish place to live.
Even India is a hellish place to live as per population,just that u have enough no of jobs here unlike canada
White people are doing fine in SE Asia like Thailand, how are you sure that you will get a job in your field here in Canada?
Many immigrants will learn the hard way when they move to Canada and have to beg on the street or end up homeless and freezing at -40C frozen weather.
You should not think too much about race. Instead, you should think about market dynamics and cultural assimilation. If a Canadian dentist lands up in India, do you think he is ready to practice on day 1? These professions are highly regulated. Right from filling materials to hygiene practices are different in Canada. How you treat our staff and patient is different as well. The legal environment is different. If you make one cultural mistake, patients will blame the Canadian government to allow someone with a foreign degree to practice in Canada. There are a lot of parameters that drive employment.
Of course, you can ignore all of that and call it racism. I have a better word for it– Competition. You will face a 10 fold uphill task to find employment in Canada. I would refrain from all professions that require direct human contact. Several years ago, this was not the case. Doctors were in short supply and people were willing to overlook cultural assimilation aspects. Today, everyone is trying to find faults in others to get them fired. If you come to Canada to make money then you will be into saving money and start cutting corners. This is where you will be penalized.
One more thing. Employment is a two-fold problem. The first is finding the job and second is retaining it. No one talks about the second aspect. Retaining the job is even more difficult. What is the point where you find a job and only survive a few months before you get unemployed?
Mr parag is it true that even an Indian dentist pass all the Canadian equivalency exams,he might not get an appropriate job or the employer gives a white dentist more preference than brown dentist
Yes it is true. There is a widespread practice that many immigrants pass the exam say even after 3 tries (after money is taken out repeatedly), they will go to the trainee stage, but no one will take them to be trained even up north. This is done so that they dont complete the final step to be job worthy. Most people are in this loop.
They talk about office culture and deem foreigner not to be culturally fit. Its not just Indians but every non white. I myself lived in Canada more than 15 years. after working and brought up in the culture, i went a few countries to work. Then i did my MS from Seattle. They are not least bit bothered to recognize it even though University of washing was top in the world in 2010 for applied mathematics which i did.
My mom did certifications from Cambridge and same fate. I have many friends who are in this dilemma. They think foreigners or Canadians should not do foreign degrees or work outside for anytime period of time cause Canadian degree/experience is the best. Its perfect blend of arrogance with ignorance at its best.
* Sorry i meant University of Washington
You’ve answered your own question, and it would be sad that you, being a doctor in India, would have to sweep floors at 3am or scrub toilets for a wage that doesn’t cover renting in some dangerous ghetto of Toronto or Montreal.
And police here don’t help you or assist you when you are a victim of crime; only white women have the privilege of the police being at their side.
There are over 200 countries and territories other than Canada and India. Pick wisely.
You think India is overpopulated? Try London, UK or Toronto, Canada.
I would say Canada is no better than India, too much cold, most of the Canada is a frozen desert, plus imagine u have to live 6 months inside your house just because of extreme cold and dingy weather, high cost of living and extremely high taxes. But we get good quality of life which u can’t imagine even u earn lakhs in India, population explosion and poor urban planning will make India a hellish place to live in future.
In all fairness, India is a dump. It is not a country that is livable by any means. The quality of air is so bad that you are a dead man walking. Indians themselves are to be blamed. I could never understand the Indian culture of getting married and popping kids. India’s population has made India unlivable country. Over the years, resources are mined, the environment is screwed, water tables are lowered and contaminated, and rivers polluted. Who in the right mind would bring kids to a miserable country? Yet, it is what people do. When you are born, you realize that you are born in a country of no hope. The very air you breath is working against your success. The lack of oxygen in the air puts pressure on your heart and mind. This is the misery everyone in India is living under. Both rich and poor are subject to this invisible misery.
So it is not surprising that Indians will hang on to any hope to escape the misery. This is where “dream sellers” come in. They sell Indians dreams of a wealthy career in Canada in exchange for money. India does other things to you as well. It boosts your ego. When you live in a country where the majority of people have poor skills and education, then having some skills make you feel that you are a King. The thing is that Western nations are full of educated citizens. If you come with an attitude that you are bringing in a lot of skills then you will be disappointed. The vast majority of Indians do not have any superior education. Most have undergraduate degrees. To make matters worse, India makes you learn multiple languages. The problem is that you do not master English. Regardless of what people claim, Indians do not speak and write in good English. Most are average and average does not mean exceptional.
Indians who come to America either come to the US with H1 visa or come for education. The H1 visa is a non-immigrant visa and there is a 30 year wait time to get US permanent residency from H1 Visa. If you lose a job while you are on H1 visa then you are kicked out. Even after US education, you can only get a job on H1 visa. Both student and H1 visa are non-immigrant visas. The only easy way to get a PR in USA (from Indian passport ) is through marriage to US citizen. This is the approach Priyanka Chopra is adopting. There is a fast track PR processing option, but it is really reserved for Olympic athletes or Nobel prize winners. A few years ago, this option used to be a loophole abused by Indian IT organizations but this appears to be closed now. America grants its PR using country quotas and the 30 years wait time for Indians is only because of the Indian population. Too many Indians are in the queue. Canada does not appear to have country quotas so Indians go to Canada.
People who migrate to Canada, as I understand it, are people who accumulate money by working in the middle east. They go back home to a dump and want to use their riches to come to the western world. The US is never an option for these guys as they only have undergraduate degrees, so Canada is the place they go to. Canada has created this scam to separate the money from these fortune seekers. It sells them dreams and then bankrupts them. After that these immigrants either clean toilets and brag that their life is good in Canada; or go back to horrible and ever decaying India.
If you call that sad then it is sad, but most people in the world have it worse. It is only sad if you come to Canada with a huge expectation like you would become a CEO. To some extent, this website sells you a lot of hopes by posting articles like how someone from Jalandhar became a multi-millionaire in 4 weeks. These stories are extremely rare. If you come to Canada with an expectation that you are coming here to earn hourly wages then you will not be disappointed.
Exactly, Canada is only good for those who are starving and eating dirt in their home countries, or living in places where they get their hands and heads cut off for offending some hypocritical religious Monarchy of zealots.
india is a dump but still have more opportunities than cold and icy canada, where one will work like dog for his entire life and even then will die with no savings,except pollution and clean water, there is nothing to boast about canada. The biggest threat to immigrants apart from extreme cold is rampant feminism which could be deadly for an indian immigrant, even india is infiltrated by these toxic feminism from organizations funded by the west.
Mr parag it’s sad to see Indian engineers working as cashiers and janitors in canadan and other Western nations,are they dissillusioned with the overpopulation and beauracracy present in there native country or they think life in Western country Is living in a heavens paradise
Mr AL Waz, Canada is all blue collar jobs. Many Canadians don’t accept that immigrants can be so much talented and skillful,they will erect barriers for any immigrant who appears to he competitive, better try for US.
You cannot try the US.. There are too many programmers trying to migrate to the west thinking that they can get high paying jobs. Programming is taught in high schools in the US and some students take advanced placement classes. America does not want programmers anymore. Trump is proposing a minimum wage of $110,000 for any foreigner attempting to enter job market in the US. You cannot come to the US unless you have a job which pays atleast $110,000 or more. The visa procedures are very restrictive in the US. If you are fired from the job then your visa is voided and then you have to go back home. Immigrating to the US is very difficult.
Why does Canada trick me into coming here? The PR Consultant said that my IT credentials will be accepted for job here, but five months living for Toronto and my IT skills are not accepted for job. i was refused for an entry level IT job such as novice programmer.
I am certified A+ module, C+language, Python and Java programmer with 10 years teaching computer science students.
My job mentor at Woodgreen Employment services exclaimed that I should apply for low service jobs like Tim Hortons cashier, Mc Donalds staff member and Walmart night-shift janitor.
I am THIRTY-SEVEN years of age!!!!! Why would I work as minmum wage cashier?
I also notice that having eye contact with Canadian females here is not advised as they have a feminist brain and are taught that all men are not to be friendly with or talk with.
Canada has fooled me into their bottomless pit of hell!!!!!
The useless paper-pusher and government bureaucrat tells you to do dead-end jobs, despite you having more education and experience!
Oh Canada!
Canada legalized pedophilia for women:
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2018/10/25/court-says-pedophilia-does-not-apply-because-perpetrator-is-a-woman.html
My colleague who got registered as a dentist in Australia recently told that he got a job in rural area as most of the urban areas are saturated with dentists. The same scenario applies to Canada and white patients prefer white dentists/Anglo Christians for there treatment, and apart from Vancouver and Toronto no city is worth living.
Ashu, you’re comparing apples to oranges there. Your colleague was approved in Australia, which is geographically favourable for those living in Asia.
Australia is thousands of miles away from Canada, and the climate is also way seasonally favourable than Canada’s 6 months of extreme cold, and 6 months of humidity.
Canada is not the same as USA, just like Australia is not the same as USA, Canada. Every country has their own rules and regulations. Many immigrants falsely believe that UK is the same as Canada, only to realize that UK pays for dental healthcare while Canada doesn’t with very limited exceptions, using one example.
Until you locate a colleague who has been approved to work as a Medical Doctor in Canada within 1 year of landing, I hate to say it but you’d be sweeping floors, cleaning toilets and delivering pizzas living in Toronto or Vancouver.
Not just employment is extremely tough, the lifestyle is garbage.It’s not vibrant and all u do is work and work to paid or bought overvalue product, it’s not worth to come to hell.
But again Delhi, Mumbai are polluted as hell, but more vibrant than cold and robotic life in Canada.
You would be a medical doctor at those overpopulated cities, but you would likely clean toilets for low wages in overpopulated Canadian cities such as Toronto. Don’t be fooled by the 2.8 million stat. Those who live at the suburbs work Toronto, so likely 6 or 7 million people traverse Toronto daily for work, school and commute.
I heard Nova Scotia and Quebec are very racist and intolerant to Indians and any non white-immigrant can’t survive der.
I think people quickly jump to racism as a conclusion. There is some problem with Indian culture as well that needs to be considered. People from India do not tip well or adjust quickly to the culture. If you go to any new country you must leave the culture of your old country behind. You face a mammoth problem of unlearning old culture and learning new culture that you do not necessarily know or even understand.
Immigration policies of Canada allow people to immigrate without securing a job. This is the curx of the problem. You bring your money thinking that there is a well paid job lined for you because Canada lies to get you here. Once here, you have no job. You have to sit and spend your money and then you have two choices left– clean toilets or return home without money and start all over.
Losers in Nova Scotia look at you as another freeloader who is going to drain the system. This means less money for them and perhaps government cutting thier benefits. If you call that racism then that is what it is. However, it is simple economics. In fact, to keep these losers happy, government is bringing in immigrants with all the money. Government wants to take all the money from immigrants and give it to freeloaders in Canada and hopes that immigrants will go back home. No wonder immigrants who bring in money are upset with Canada. Canada then lectures them that they have a better life and they can now clean toilets to survive in Canada. It does not end there either, your kids will likely suffer as well and take drugs or worse (become drug dealer themselves).
I’ve heard that Canada actually tells aspiring immigrants to sell everything that they have to bring in as much cash as they can into Canada. Thus, immigrants are stuck in Canada because they aren’t able to pay air fare to move back. It’s a scam.
If the Average Joe were to tell someone a false advertisement, he would be in jail for fraud, but not the Canadian bureaucrats. They even have the audacity to publish pro-Canadian articles regarding immigrants who migrated to Canada since the 1960s-1970s and measuring their “successes” as the present state of affairs.
Back in the 1970s, Canada wasn’t overpopulated in the cities, nor was there forced policies to discriminate against anyone using feminism reverse discrimination against males.
Now, a man can’t work as a factory employee because the factory would have to hire a woman instead, and the white women get all of the Supervisory roles, controlling all of the serfs like slave masters.
Canada is an entirely different country than the 1970s. Immigrants used to have their communities to rely on, but that is all infiltrated by the Canadian government and social justice movements.
And yes, it’s true that one’s children will end up a drug addict, a prostitute or a criminal because of the peer pressure and feminist culture that promotes females to act loosely.
The biggest racism is not cursing or cussing someone on the basis of race or religion. The biggest racism is denial of opportunities based on race and religion. That’s what Canada practices.If they value the credentials of immigrants, then racism is not an issue. Racism is a relative term – some actually face it and some actually amplify it. Even USA has racism, but USA values the credentials of potential immigrants.
It is somewhat hypocritical how quickly Indians call out any behavior racism when India is the most racist country out there and Indians living in India do not say anything about it. The day a Tamil guy becomes CM of Punjab then I would consider India has overcome discrimination. That day will never come in 100 years. This is how racist India is.
Now coming to denial of opportunities, that is a matter of opinion and not reality. In a person’s mind his credentials may be equal to Canadian credentials, but seriously, there is more to a job than just degrees. Western organizations are rampant with jealous people. A manager may hire someone from India only to see two well-qualified people leave the organization because they might think that the organization does not value them and watering things down. There are fundamental cultural and communication issues with immigrants. Even if someone speaks English, it is not necessary that you can always get the nuances of Canadian English in the workplace. Work methods and habits are also different for immigrants. Many immigrants bring packed food from home and eat in their office to stink up the workplace. The point is that just because you think you deserve a job does not mean the organization sees it that way. A manager has to consider a lot of variables including competing candidates. Racism via denial of opportunities needs to be provable before you claim it.
What is inappropriate about Canadian workplace is quotas. More specifically, female worker quotas. That is a provable entitlement and it is OK to criticize it. If someone tells you on your face that you will not get a job because of a race then that is racism as well. If you get a letter mentioning race as a reason for denial then that is racism as well. However, if no such thing happens then anyone calling racism is just an opinion. The person should keep that opinion to himself/herself. These things happen other way around too. Many Indian businesses hire Indians. Are they practicing racism too? You have to be very careful about alleging racism.
Canada practices intellectual racism, and the biggest joke is that Canadians are polite to immigrants.
Canadian experience, are u a Muslim? Even UAE has racism towards non-Arabs, but still they value your credentials. chances of assimilation for Indians are more as compared to Christian white countries.
No, I’m an atheist, don’t have any knowledge of religion.
So safe bet is going to Abu Dhabi or Dubai and practice for 4 years and then come back,at least they value ur credentials.
If Muslim countries accept Hindus and respect them, that’s a plus! You wouldn’t have your education and credentials respected in Canada. Intellectual racism is rampant in Canada. Just ask the Canadian taxi drivers who were engineers, CEOs, doctors and lawyers back home.
My comment hasn’t been approved as yet, but UAE is more beneficial for your career than working as janitor in Canada.
Mr Parag, u are absolutely right,I have seen hoardes of Gujarati and Punjabi people immigrating to kanneda for no reason. Many do odd jobs to survive.If earning 30k dollars per annum and living in some shitty house in urban cities like Toronto is success, then better be in your country.
30k is poverty wage in Canada. You would need at least $100k+ income so that you can qualify for a mortgage in Canada.
Housing and rental prices ave skyrocketed in Toronto because of the increase quotas on immigration and refugees. Homeless Canadians have to sleep on the street while hotels and shelters are fully booked because the government has packed too many migrants into one small part of Ontario.
There are at least 10 million people living in an urban center 1/10th the size of Sri Lanka. To use actual comparisons, the current population of the Greater Toronto Area would make Sri Lanka’s population to at least 100 million.
But India is also battering with issues like casteism and regionalism,the only advantage living in India is cheap food and rent,as a middle class u can live a good life in India though corruption and pollution are a major issue,but again Canada is worse in terms of living as a middle class life
Canada has a very small population compared to it’s size and population distribution, but food, housing, energy and gas prices are way expensive though Canada is an oil-producing country and exports energy to the USA.
America has almost 320 million people, but food is 50% cheaper in most of the country and even cheaper in the cities of the western part (California).
Can a dentist earn 100k dollars?I heard Toronto and Vancouver are pretty Saturated with dentists
Only Dentists who have decades of experience will net 100k+ after expenditures and taxes, but before you question the prospects of earning a salary of doctors, who are high-earners, will you ever get a chance to even work as a dental assistant before getting your medical license, or will you be condemned with the thousands of other failed immigrants sweeping floors for low wages and living in cockroach apartments?
Canada in 2018 is not Canada of the 1980s where families would struggle for a few years then get back on their feet.
I have seen pathetic Indians who can do any type of jobs in Canada and Western counties. I met one mallu Christian who worked in Tim Hortons in Canada for three years despite being an electric engineer, he told me shamelessly that toilet cleaning and labour jobs in any Western country is better than white collar jobs in India. Due to this mentality, we were slaves for 200 years to the britishers.
A lot of Indians, who do not make it in the USA, go to Canada also say similar things like Canada is much better than USA. They mention things like availability of guns in US and crime, etc. People always try to justify their decisions. What really matters is where you want to live when you have a choice? I can live in US, Canada, India and even Europe. My preference will always be USA. Most other governments are way oppressive and rob their rich people.
I think this assumption is just not true about slavery. That is a very bizzare outlook. I don’t think you have lived in the West. There are many cases how one can see the west better or worse. Some people will like competition and some won’t. Is that something wrong?
It’s just that you as indian are in an environment where people are always pushing. It’s not like that say in New Zealand. So then why do you think that they should invest their resources into more hospitals or infrastructure if they don’t need? if their basic needs are fulfilled and working in a coffee shop is just fine for a good life and he/she is satisfied, how can you say it is a negative attitude that lead existence or prolonging of slavery??
My point is that is Canada so great that people leave there managerial jobs in there home country to work in supermarket and coffee shops? This can only happen when Canada is indeed a heaven for all Asian country citizens, is it?
They were lied to regarding job prospects in Canada.
Yes that only true thing. The Canadian govt should be sued as this lie is pure scamming.
Sixteen year old high school students work part-time in coffee shops, and then when they reach 17 or 18, they become Manager. How can you say with a straight face that doing work that teenagers do for pocket change is a livable lifestyle in an overpopulated city like Toronto or Vancouver? Are you out of your mind?!
No I am not out of my mind. What I am trying to say is that there is no need to over complicate things if there is no need. We know that Canada doesn’t want to achieve highly sophisticated industries like NASA, microsoft, world class leading institutes or such others. The level of life quality without these is good enough and although many people don’t agree, many others do agree.
It is only in our minds that we think we must have jobs in the latest frontier. The idea of high end jobs is that they generate something of value in the absence of resource in a country. Canada already has its resource. So it doesn’t really have to go down the advanced technological industries path.
This is exactly the problem. What is wrong with odd jobs? Are they not needed in a society? It is seen as pocket change because we think of it like that. If a bus driver or security officer can live for 40 years in canada satisfied in their own way, then it is not a pocket change job but a career and we have no right to say that they are wrong. It is us who are wrong for trying to change them with what we think of as life or career.
Bottom line, despite right or wrong, Canada is far ahead in almost all aspects compared to our overpopulated countries.
This is exactly what the problem is with Canada. There are too many low ambition refugees who think that Canada is heaven. Well, it might be a heaven for them. However, for most educated people, they get an education for a reason. The first reason is to stay away from a society full of idiots. There is everything wrong with low paying odd jobs. First, you do not contribute towards higher taxes, and second, you do not earn enough and depend on the state for benefits such as health care. Who pays to run the country? Rich people. To fund a lifestyle of freeloaders, Canadian government creates scams like immigration.
For the vast majority of people who want to earn higher wages, they really are the true patriots. They want to earn more and pay more in taxes. Unfortunately, Canada is an uncompetitive country to compete at higher level jobs that pay well and wants educated people. These high skill people almost certainly leave for the USA where they earn more and keep more of what they earn. The result is that more and more of freeloaders are left in Canada. The government has to resort to immigration lies to get money into Canada and then tells them if they do not like to live here then leave Canada. Either way, Canada does not have a bright future unless it creates high paying jobs. As population ages, the entitlements budget will keep increasing and tax revenue will keep decreasing. The government will start cutting benefits because it did not create a competitive environment. Get out of this mess while you still can. The only way Canadian can be happy is by constantly saying they are happy with low paying jobs. There is the truth and then there is a truth that you create by repeating a lie.
Canada thrives on mediocrity while depending on America to do trade.
Actually, in uber-leftist cities like Toronto, if someone attempts to advance in the workplace, a feminist co-worker just has to make a false
accusation of harassment or spread toxic rumours, and there goes the career.
It seems that the #metoo movement in the USA have been inspired by the feminist movement in Canada to damage innocent men’s reputations over false accusations.
Well, there is a tid bit of balance in America. These #MeToo guys tried to pull crap over Justice Kavanaugh’s nomination and no one listened to them. They were utterly defeated and now they have a Supreme Court Justice that knows how bad feminism is. For next 20+ years, feminism will be moderate in the US. I am OK with equality but special preferences based on race and gender is a problem and everyone should fight against it.
Parag, many Indians I know are respectable and moderate, but the whites in Canada have generalized all men from India as buffoons and assume that every brown skinned man is an “incel”, which is a very serious accusation as it is liable for slander.
Feminism is not for equality as if it were for equality you wouldn’t see thousands of racialized female immigrants with doctorate degrees working in factories, while the Caucasian Canadian-born woman gets promoted to upper level Management at age 22 after completing her degree in some mudane field, like gender studies or sociology or liberal arts.
Canadian feminism has “empowered” mostly white women while many immigrant women who adopted the feminist attitudes have become single, their children despise them, and they will most likely be working to their 70s or 80s and they have no retirement savings.
I am not repeating any lie. You seem to not get the point. There are two sides to the coin. There is no right or wrong.
If you don’t like it, you may go to your USA. You probably didn’t qualify there. Now you are in canada whining.
The rich people don’t run society. That is the pretense of capitalism where the rich are so rich that they start to penetrate the political society. That is clear inherent conflict of interest. In that scenario, socialist countries like Canada is better because no one gets too rich and everyone pays their fair share.
Societies have existed for millennium without the pretense that rich people are needed to run the country. Life has gone and will go without it. If you don’t like, go to some other country that supports your way.
Now maybe you will say “give me back the money the canadian govt took from me”. The answer is do something worthwhile even as a receptionist, make your money and leave. Honestly Canada will do fine for the next hundreds of years unlike the US which is being broken and battered by every country.
As for Canadian experience, he or she (probably he) is seriously caught up with white feminism/LGBT cycle. I don’t know what the problem is but he should leave if the experience isn’t his favour.
Yes I agree. I know it’s very tough, going abroad is always gamble,u can live a life of labourer in Western country if u not succeed, but again India has so many problems like overpopulation, massive corruption and crime, specially in Delhi. But I know the West has different set of problems like racism, very high cost of living and nepotism.
You’re a Dentist in India and probably upper class! Why would you come to Canada to work as a cleaner or fast food worker for pennies?
I have seen many Punjabi and Gujarti families with well–o do life in India working as cashier and supermarket jobs in Canada, majority of punjabis and gujjus can go to any extent to survive in Canada, which is very shameful to see while they can easily live a good upper middle class life here in India by working equally hard as in Canada.
For the most part you are making assumptions that are simply not true. You are assuming that your dentist degree will allow you to start a practice in Canada. That is such a naive assumption. No one is going to let you start a practice. You will be required to prove that you understand Canadian culture and language beginning with taking an English test. Your degree needs to be validated and you need to get experience as an assistant to Canadian dentist. It will take years of hard work and low wages before you will be allowed to practice. This is assuming that you are lucky. Most likely you might end up being a truck or taxi driver. This is what everyone is talking about. Canada will advertise that it needs skilled people and HAVE people believe that they can just walk into the profession of their choosing. Once you come to Canada, Canada says we have only hourly wage jobs for you. No wonder people get disappointed.
Ok I know all these hurdles of Canada,is Australia better option for dentists?or it’s same hardcore racists like Canadians?
Slightly better but pretty much the same. The thing is these countries have different priorities and vision.
How long will it take you to be certified to operate your own dentist profession in Canada?
This is the first thing you should ask yourself….
Why would you waste almost ten years to start all over again when you are situated in one of the most populated continents of the world, (more clients, more people, more competition, free market) compared to Canada where the crooks who work as government agencies and immigration lawyers say “COME TO CANADA, WE NEED PROFESSIONALS” but only to find out that doctors, lawyers, accountants, psychologists, brokers and other professionals don’t like foreign competition and will do anything not only to erect barriers but also put a carrot on a stick to make one waste years of study, money and lost earnings to get a “canadian experience”, but it doesn’t matter because it’s hard for professionals in certain fields to work in Canada because of unions and racism.
There is also the stereotype that foreign medical doctors are less skilled than white doctors, which is intellectual racism. Unfortunately, if one isn’t “canadian” enough, they are condemned to working as cleaners, maids, janitors and non-unionized security guards.
Ashu, will you take the chance to migrate to canada knowing that you will most likely spend the first ten years of your new life in Canada sweeping floors and cleaning toilets for a wage that doesn’t pay for the overpriced rent in cities like Toronto?
I am planning to migrate to Canada but seeing all this I think I should terminate my plans as I am a dentist in India and it’s extremely tough for non white dentist to survive in Canada,as patients prefer white dentist over brown dentist that’s what I heard
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-immigration-skilled-workers-election-1.4833739
Abdul Waheed holds up a certificate he received after completing a seven-week course on how to improve his CV and write a cover letter. The trained chemist has two master’s degrees in science, both of which are recognized in Quebec, but he’s gone back to college in the hope of finding a job in his field. (CBC)
Bouzid earned his degree in France and has more than 30 years’ international experience, designing everything from houses to hotels.
But once in Canada, it took him three years to have his credentials recognized.
He finally got his permit to practise in June 2017 but still can’t land a job.
He’s only had one job interview — where he was told, at 56, he was too old.
“Without a doubt, our origins are behind this refusal,” said Chebbi.
My comment: Shame that white Canadians get accepted into high paid expat jobs in these same countries like UAE, Morocco, Saudi, Kuwait, India, etc, but migrants from these countries are discriminated against their backgrounds!
There’s an image of a FrenchESL teacher who looks more like a college student than a teacher who is likely teaching skilled professionals.
WARNING: If you don’t have an ethnic niche to fall back on, you will struggle financially, socially and mentally in Canada. Every white person in Canada is either a racist bigot or a left-wing LGBT supporter. BEWARE!!!!!!!!!
Hi, is it true most of Canadians are racists? I have seen many Indians praising them, hope that they are bluffing and living in fool’s paradise?
I would say Canada is a class society. Part of the reasons for this is that it admits too many refugees. As a result, most people consider immigrants belonging to lower economic class. Keep in mind that this mindset is omnipresent in the society all races included. Open door immigration policy for refugees, job quotas, feminism, and LGBQT activism puts economic principles on the back burner. Any immigrant coming to Canada for economic success may find these things as hurdles. Canada is more like let us all be miserable together. This works when you come from really horrible culture where your hands are chopped off if you steal or someone alleges that you have stolen.
Hindus and Sikhs are lumped together with Muslims when it comes to being targeted for hate crimes.
The racists don’t know the difference between someone who is a Hindu or Muslim, so they attack anyone who looks brown. Certain areas of Toronto are dangerous for non-whites as they will most likely be harassed, assaulted or stabbed, but police will not find the perp or lead to a conviction because racism is subtle in Canada.
Many have said that Faisal Hussain who targeted several Greek restaurants in a predominately Greek enclave was a victim of a hate crime and sought revenge using the street way.
Violence should never be the answer, but from what I’ve heard from the GTA, certain communities have transformed certain wards of Toronto into defacto nationalist states that are hostile to outsiders.
Places like Little Italy, Vaughan, Royal York, Bathurst and South Etobicoke have become hostile to immigrants and especially those of African, Middle Eastern and North African descent.
Toronto is becoming racist as the whites formed their own enclaves but enforce the same racism from their homelands.
So it doesn’t surprise me that a young Muslim man would resort to gun violence targeting only white Greeks while sparing a Sikh passerby.
Anyone who migrates to Canada should not bring their racism from their home countries, because it only gives young disenfranchised men a reason to use gun violence. We may never know what actually caused that young Muslim man to use gun violence, but someone from that community did cause the first punch.
It’s not easy to rent an apartment (if you call it that, roach and vermin pests are a problem in many of these units). Landlords are legally allowed to discriminate on the basis of gender. Renting rooms and basements are not covered under the Human Rights Code, and this allows landlords and men who prefer females over males as tenants. Canada is for the modern woman, not for men. One of my online friends stated that his female Jamaican friend quietly whispered to him how “Canada is a white woman’s country”.
Many of you men have to consider that like Saudi Arabia where men have the power, Canadian women have 10x the power and have well-armed police and a biased legal system which shows sympathy for gun smugglers and gangsters but hates fathers and boys who are law-abiding. Canada is a backwards country and you will understand why I tell you this. America is also leading that path as Obama legalized gay marriage.
Make up your mind! How can you have a Canadian PR and then choose for h1B when that’s a work visa for the States?!
The job market in the USA vs Canada are entirely different, and even Americans face a barrier when looking for equal work in Canada, especially in Toronto where social justice, feminism and “human rights” supersede qualifications and industry experience.
Canadian PR is only suitable for wealthy elites from China who use Canada as a stepping stone to the USA. If you’re planning to start your life from scratch, you will waste time searching for a janitor, taxi driver, cleaner or pizza delivery job in the femoccupied cities like Toronto or Montreal, before you even consider the time it takes for lawyers to find a H1B for you to work in the USA.
Focus on America.
Please can you advise how easy and possible it is for a software engineer having 5 years work experience coming on Canada PR card to move to USA on H1B visa ? Are there body shop firms which can take person on H1B visa to USA? Is there any advantage of Canada being neighbor of USA which can help a software engineer having relevant skill sets to move to USA legally on H1B visa? Regards Lisboa
USA does not work like Canada where you can get H1B visa before you come to the USA. H1B visa is obtained after you get a job with the US company and the US company sponsors it by advertising for the job and showing there are no candidates. If coming to US was so easy then Canada would not have an IT industry because everyone in Canada would love to come to the US.
H1B visas don’t exist in Canada, but they have foreign temporary workers who work as general labourers in dangerous occupations such as oil fields. Rarely does Canada provide lucrative careers for immigrants and foreigners without putting huge boundaries in front of their faces while blaming them for not having “Canadian work experience”. I’ve seen 21yo Canadian-born females working as unionized TTC bus drivers (high paying job) while a male immigrant with decades of experience in public transit is ignored for those jobs. Canada has different priorities than the USA.
He will also have to know connections to the Big 5 accounting/bank/investment firms because local grads in Canada are unable to find MBA jobs because of “lack of experience”. What I’ve noticed in cities like Toronto is that hiring managers would choose a pale female over an immigrant or male student for co-op placements at universities, and this leads to the vicious cycle of unemployment because one needs experience to get a job, but they also need a job to gain experience.
Females in Canada have it easier from age 16 and up because government policies force employers to hire them and if they don’t then it’s discrimination. Now before anyone says that I support discrimination where were they when millions of immigrants were denied jobs because of lack of “Canadian experience” and the bureaucrats suggested that immigrants work for free?
Forget it, in my opinion. It will be extremely tough for you. Your MBA doesn’t count for anything here. You will have to get local qualification for sure in order for you to be somewhere in life here. This means restarting your career here at the age of 30. IF you are working for global company then take a transfer here if they have operations in Canada and then apply for PR. Employers here only consider candidates with local qualifications and experience.
Hi,
I am in the middle of the process of applying for PR, (IELTS 8), and currently getting my documents verified by WES. I see most of the queries out here are about jobs in IT and/or different engineering fields and immigrating henceforth. What about jobs in advertising and brand marketing? I have got an MBA degree and around 6 years of experience in advertising & marketing in India. It’s just that I want to shift (30 years in the same country, definitely looking to move out now). I am also a Google & Facebook certified digital marketer. Does Canada have any opportunity in such fields (marketing, market research, advertising), especially for an immigrant from India? Is there any other skill I need to develop (other than learning French)? What’s the range of salary are we talking about here?
Please advise what is the likely salary for a software engineer having studied in India and worked in company like Infosys and Tcs for 4 years. Will be getting Canada PR soon. I presume there will be jobs in Canada for software engineers even if qualification is from India.
Depends on your age, but your kind of people do well in Canada. Moreover, TCS has a big presence in Canada.
It’s better you take a transfer if you are working for TCS and then apply for PR when you here. The whole process will be quick and you will not be struggling to find a job otherwise if you take PR and then come here you might have to struggle here.
Unfortunately, the latter route (PR then look for job) is what the bureaucrats want to happen so that he/she will have to struggle for general labour jobs and live in a cockroach and haunted apartment for the total price of C$1,500/month in the Toronto region.
You’re going to leave your home country as a Bank Manager or Professor living a middle or upper class life, but come to Canada working for temporary labor jobs and being bossed around by a 20-something Canadian female supervisor. if you dare offend her or make her feel unsafe, she will send armed cops in jackboots and military suits to beat the living daylights out of you while you still have to pay your overpriced rent in a slum of Toronto where victims of gun violence are living in fear because police only care about Canadian women more than the “undesirables” that right-wing governments have labelled us as immigrants.
Wealthy immigrants who earned their money (from what source and who knows where it came from) were the ones who voted for Doug Ford in the low-income areas while the poorer immigrants voted for NDP. Wealthy immigrants tend to bring their oppressive attitudes to Canada and it shows when they would rather vote for a far-right political party whose supporters dislike darker shades of people and merges the image of peaceful Hindus with Middle Eastern rebels in Syria, in order to commit hate crimes against immigrants.
I’m not from India but an immigrant too. Well I think the most problem is for your guys and not just for you. For all immigrants who decide to come here. That most of them shoot for big cities. You have much better chances in small villages and towns to find jobs, way cheaper costs for housing and if you go north at least here in Alberta you get from some companies your college full paid while you working at the same time at the paid job and additionally an extra amount paid each month for living at north and not just from the government. I immigrated in New Brunswick and lived in a very small city. Even there it was easy to survive. Yes you wouldn’t make much money but you also don’t need much for your expenses. To rent a nice 4 bedroom house with garage, garden and everything included cost you around 600 – 800 dollars there. Here in northern Alberta we bought a nice 3 bedroom house for under 80.000 dollar. But my husband and I combined make her 160.000 a year and compared to BC healthcare doesn’t cost you here anything as well not in New Brunswick. You guy’s go for areas with a lot of population and brings you bad experiences. Canada is in my experience a very good country. Yeah our government currently sucks but after beeing her for 10 years I love it. I never had so less stress as here. Everything is calm and people have time and are friendly.
Oh another thing. If you come to a country and be such arrogant and believe you are so much better as the people who live there because of your education than you might should pack up and go home. Nobody want to get insulted like this. You should put down your expectations and just live and enjoy the ride.
Maybe many of the “Indian” immigrants don’t seek to live in redneck, white, rural Canadian cities because they don’t wish to become victims of racist violence, xenophobia and other attacks because of the colour of their skin? Being a white immigrant from South Africa, Russia or Mainland Europe is different than a non-white immigrant from Asia minor, Middle East or Africa.
Unfortunately white women have so much privileges in Canada that they forget that immigrants become easier targets for racism in smaller cities where uneducated racists live and thrive.
If you have to live in an isolated place that is frozen more than half of the year, then what’s the point of coming to Canada? As I said before also, you should only immigrate to Canada if your country has some serious issue like civil war in Syria or some serious threat to your life in your current country. Otherwise, it’s worthless coming to Canada. You will be basically starting your career from scratch. Imagine this you are 45 years old with let’s say 22-year experience in your field and if you extremely lucky then you will get a job in your field within the first year. BUT you will be working in the same level as fresh graduates who are 22 years old (Same age as # of years of experience you have in your field). And this is a scenario if you are extremely lucky otherwise for the rest of your life you are working at a gas station or Mcdonald’s as a cashier. SO DO YOU REALLY WANT TO COME TO CANADA?
Late Teenage (17, 18, 19) and early 20 immigrants waste their entire 20s studying only to be unemployed or working for low wage jobs in their 30s and 40s. The Canadian economy benefits those who are born, raised and live under families that lived in Canada since the 1700s (mainly those of British and European descent). Canada wasn’t that great either when the droves of West Indian and African immigrants started off working in menial jobs in the 1970s, and to this day, a majority and many are still at their dead-end jobs despite chants of women empowerment and racial equality.
You can only imagine how hard it will be for current newcomers who are leaving their emerging economies to live in slums in Toronto and fighting to work for low wages for survival because Canadians are not as cohesive as third world countries.
Canada has gone to the dogs that I’ve seen personally during the heat waves in Toronto how homeless men are dying of dehydration, but no one give a rat’s nest to save his life, but the social interest groups are walking and riding bikes in the nude and police, EMS and watchmen are there to protect their lives and dignity.
NIcky what you say would be alright if you are a high school graduate. India is a different country from many other countries including European countries. Canada really is a step down for Indians because of monarchy. I do not consider vast majority of European countries, including UK, as really free countries. They have institutional racism that European think is OK. Indians are more like Americans and I think America is the only country Indians would feel happy to live. Part of the frustration may be that Indians assume that Canada or Western Europe is like America, which it is not. I am an Indian-American and I can tell you this lumping of Western world into one category is also a problem. American culture stands alone. Canada and European cultures are way too hypocritical and hierarchical to any Indian liking. India is a non-monarchy democracy and growing economy. It is also a young country with an evolving culture. There are many things Indians would see and think that tradeoffs are not worth it. The biggest frustration of all is Canada lies to bring these guys here. If Canada is so great then let it refund the money and you will realize all these complaining Indians would go back in a flash. While most people criticize the posters here when they themselves are subsidized (taxes and benefits) by the money these immigrants bring in.
Canada is such a garbage country. I wished I had never come to this hell. It has been 10 months since I applied for citizenship and no response yet. And now my PR card has also expired and will have to apply for it as well, this means more cost and wastage of time.
Just waiting for my citizenship so I can get the F**K out of this S**T hole and hopefully never have to come back again 🙂
If Canada is causing you so many problems, why are you here waiting to take citizenship?? ooo it’s a one-way stream where you just want to take all the good stuff..isn’t it? People come for different reasons. Canada has good life. Expand your mind on what life is. No one knows the complete answer but it’s not all about intellectual competition.
Before coming here plan was to settle here but after living in this s**thole for 4 years I just want to leave ASAP. And it’s called getting some return out of your FAILED investment. There is nothing nice can say about Canada!
Canada has a garbage life. People are racist and arrogant including cops. They will not do anything or support the other party if they are WHITE.
White women are allowed to walk totally nude in public in Canada, or (ONTARIO), but if she complains against a brown or black man for no reason other than she is racist and seeks to cause tensions, the cops will have to arrest the brown or black man. Feminism is a tool of white supremacy and everyone who lives in India, etc should dismiss those Canadian feminist ideas out of the country before it becomes a neo-British feminist colony.
How much is the Canadian government paying to troll websites, or what agreement do money launderers have in Canada to launder their ill gotten money in Canada while being fooled by Canadian women who are flies to money like flies to horse manure.
Is der any scope of indian dentist? I am 32 years of age
i came to canada to study at same time as author -May 2009. It was an ok experience, but looking back, I probably would not want to live in Canada!
The winter that gets me, the lack of social cohesion – especially in Toronto, the prices, the ugly architecture! Toronto is really full of immigrants and it leads to alienation.. Everybody lives in his ethnic bubble -for the most part!
I had similar experience when looking for a job!
What the author says is true! Especially the “canadian experience” and many Phd taxi drivers..
Canada has entered into a demographic decline, and needs MORE immigrants! That’s why they started accepting 300k newcomers since 2018!
It’s sick! To all newcomers – remember, the first generation of immigrants really suffers A LOT, you will get most stress!
That’s how the scammers make money. They can bring 1 million new immigrants every year but still Canada will always be short of immigrants because more than 50% of them will leave the country after spending all their money and unable find a suitable job. Out of the 50% that stayed back, 80% of them will be working in labour jobs at the lowest level. The other 20% will have okay to decent jobs.
So overall who WINS – CANADA – Government, Business and arrogant and racist Canadian people 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Someone should create a website to tell the truth that Canada only drains countries of their skilled personnel so that they drive taxis or clean toilets for minimum wage in Toronto, Vancouver or Montreal. And those who are under Stockholm Syndrome should quit thinking to themselves that they are cleaning poo from the toilet “for the future of their children” when they could have been CEOs in India as they were before they migrated to Canada. Their children would ship them off to nursing homes when the parents become old and frail.
are canadians more racist than australians?
Toronto has become worse because rents are rising very fast, but wages are stagnant. Also the dating scene in Toronto is very terrible for single young men that I fear that those recent “incel” attacks in Toronto are an effect of the feminist revolution in the city. However, Canadians are blind to the gender tensions that they blame brown people for the attacks, even though the van driver was Armenian and the Danforth shooder was technically Canadian-born.
As I have read the reviews of different people above……
What is the minimum income of an average middle class person in Canada who works in a factory or a shop…..
what is the income required in Canada to live a good life …..means having a Car, weekend parties, outings with family….
Min avg: $30,000/yr or $18/hr.
good life for single person is good enough with $30,000. family probably not. $60,000 should be the target but its hard for a single person to bring in that but easily manageable if the family works
I do not get how you guys mention such low numbers. As a visitor, I average at minimum between $60-$80/day on food alone. Most restaurants are going to get you about $20 per meal. The lowest I can think of is Villa Medina Veg. option which will cost you about $13. This one does not have any cheese, so you cannot live on this type of meal. Most Indian restaurants will cost you in $20-$25 range. Fresh.ca meal or Mexican restaurant meal will cost $30-$35 per meal per person. I would say that at minimum a single person needs $75,000 before taxes job. With that amount, you can barely survive in a city like Toronto. I mean survival without a car travelling in metro. I am also assuming that you are lving alone. Unless you are living in some restaurant basement for free, you cannot survive well at anything less than $50,000.
Hi Parag,
I am having 10 Lakhs per annum job in India working as an accountant , this canada bug bit which made me to eventually apply for the PR . Now i am in dilemma whether am taking the right decision or not. Will i able to purchase a home in India with my earnings in Canada 5 years down the line.
Yes, you will be able to purchase a home in India with your earnings in Canada. The question really is do you have a job in Canada that pays you salary commensurate with your experience? If you have to start at minimum wage doing menial jobs then nearly all your money will go in taxes and expenses.
Its better to go and live in Nigeria than coming here to Canada.
Get a job offer first before moving to Canada. You will waste years and years of unnecessary training and job skills to fight for competition for a minimum wage menial labour job in Toronto. Canadians are not tolerant of foreign education and job experience, but they expect CEO jobs when working in countries like Saudi Arabia, Dubai or the Emirates.
Car insurance for a newcomer will be at least $5,000/yr in the Toronto-area, rent is another $18,000+/yr for a 1-bedroom apartment in a crime-infested ghetto part of Toronto, food is expensive, you will have to fork up at least another $5,000/yr for meals, & cell phone plan is another $2,000 a year if you don’t use as much data on the plan. Frugally, that’s $30,000/yr, but working full-time on minimum wage is only $24,000/yr net, and going on welfare is only $8,000/yr net.
Expenses such as car repairs, gas will be another $3,000/yr depending on mileage,and this bumps your required salary to 40k a year net, and those jobs are very hard to find for any immigrant or brown/black person in Canada.
Many immigrants were better off in their home countries that have 1/10th of the reported GDP per capita (~US$50,000) of Canada. IF you’re arriving here without any connections, you’ll barely save $5 a month in costly cities like Toronto or Vancouver. The rest of Canada are larger cities and mid size cities, and the rural areas are filled with racists & over 65% of the land in Canada is owned by that evil Queen Elizabeth may she rot in hell.
Toronto. Once you arrive in Canada at this particular city, it will be very difficult to leave, and you’re stuck in their LGBTQ culture while struggling to survive.
Over $1,000 to rent a cockroach and rat infested fungus risk apartment in a crime ridden part of Toronto. What makes it even way funnier is that the landlords will ask you for so many things like 3 years upfront rent, credit checks, criminal record checks and co-signers that getting a bank loan is easier than renting in Toronto.
Rent has jumped from $1,000 to $1,400 this year.
If you’re over 23 years of age, forget about immigrating to Canada. You will have to compete with Canadian middle and upper class teenagers for summer jobs and part-time jobs because those are the only jobs you will get. Or you will be condemned into working forever in dangerous conditions such as construction and factory jobs for low wages. The Canadian dream is gone. It will take you at least 15 years in Canada to have a positive net worth and save at least for a downpayment for a condo.
So, I am a data-pattern-analyst. Canada, like every country has problems. But, one thing, Canada’s immigration policy is ‘progressive’, whatever the ulterior motives are. The one thing standing out (of other destinations) is that ‘Canada ADVERTISES for immigration’.
There are three types of comments in (after) this article:
1. People who have problems – mainly because they left a better life in their home countries and are now compelled to live ‘lesser’ lives. The government of Canada should make more effort to educate new immigrants. The immigration policy of Canada favours upper class Indians and Sri Lankans while it has a disparity for others.
2. People who have lived ‘lesser’ lives – for them Canada is indeed a God send and I am NOT being sarcastic. These people should try to understand that, although what they have is ‘better’ than what they left behind – things could be better and fairer.
3. Hubris and Propaganda comments – they are probably doing a job (i.e. paid by someone/government?/oligopoly). These people make it IMPOSSIBLE to have a decent debate/analysis. These people are NOT good for Canada.
I have dealt with many leaders/politicians, run businesses, built businesses, etc. One thing everybody agrees is that a CRITICAL citizen/employee is WAY BETTER than a HUBRIS one. People who criticize usually do it out of love to make things better.
This article, together with the comments, is very valuable for the Canadian government, new immigrants and also others. It sheds a light on the various plights and mental states of Canadians, and possibly, for other ‘immigrant destinations’.
Canada can be much-much-much-more. Lets hope it becomes so, for all of us – present, ex-Canadians and to-be Canadians.
I will end with ‘Oh Canada – we stand on guard for thee’.
In cities like Toronto, people will literally try to murder anyone who criticizes the status quo. Many people are very defensive of the city’s culture even if they are condemned into working warehouse or factory jobs for the rest of their life without a chance for retirement pension that average Canadians receive at age 50 to 55. Many Torontonians will have to work into their 80s and 90s and retire with nothing, and immigrants will have it worse, and this is all because of the economy that no one is allowed to criticize in Canada.
Ok, time for another immigrant story. I have bitter sweet moments. I would say Canada for middle class immigrant was the best bet until 2010. After that, this country is only for rich immigrants who have minimum of $500,000 cdn to bring upon arrival. Otherwise, you will be working your whole life saving every penny and still not be able to buy a house in one of the major city. Rest of the Canada is White Blanket.
My story began in 2006 when our whole family of 4 (mom, dad, me and my elder brother) came here. I went to school in Canada from grade 10 and my brother, mom and dad started working. Mom and dad were in mid-40s so they found menial jobs. Mom would work in a farm every Spring to summer and then go on government assistance for 4-5 months. Dad worked at a gas station, may be 25-30 hours per week. My dad went into extreme alcololism and there would be fight in our basement every night. It got so worse that my dad decided to check out from the family and went back to India for 2 years. He sold all the land and lived off it. Whatever he brought back, he lost it all in stock market. Meanwhile, my mom took care of the food and my elder brother had to become the man of the family from very young age. I also contributed as much as I could. I had to work full time and then go to college part-time at night. It took me double the amount of time to finish my four-year degree. I finally got the degree last year, yay!. Good thing is I paid off my degree as I took the courses so there are no student loans. And me and my mom were able to save up $50k after paying all the expenses, university education. My brother managed to buy a townhouse after 5 year of working full time and sold it save about $100 k profit. So, as a family we have a net worth of $150k now. We would have been a success story if my dad would have put up a stronger fight. But reading all the comment I think we are still better off. I now have a job as an entry level Accounts clerk paying $44k per year. On the other hand, my brother makes about $50k in same company in Sales position with no education. So, moral of the story for me is Canada does not appreciate education. Surrey BC where I live almost all the houses are owned by truck drivers, cab drivers, or construction company owners who been here for past 10 years or longer. Canada only appreciates hard manual work for immigrants. That is the “role” the system has given to Indian immigrants. If you try to succeed by being educated, then sorry, this is not the country for you. There are opportunities in the medical field, but you have to spend 6-8 years of full time Canadian schooling before you start seeing the return on your education.
Housing trend for immigrants: Right now the trend is if you do not own a house in Canada, as of today and you come here as a middle class immigrant, you will most likely never own a house in this country. In 2015, there was a large influx of Chinese millionaires that increased the prices of house by double in two years. As a result the government tightened mortgage rules. The result of these regulation was that middle class immigrants who used to “pay dues” for 3-4 years by living in one crammed basement and saving up $100k in down payment to buy a first house, now no longer qualify for mortgage of a million dollar home. The inability to not owning a home meant more people are competing for rental units. As a result the rents have also sky rocketed. We are currently paying $1300 per month in rental for deep two bedroom basement.
Job/commute: Most of the Indian immigrants will settle in Surrey. There are no decent jobs in Surrey, so you will have to find job in next city in either Burnaby, Richmond or Vancouver. That means you are either driving for two hours daily, or taking 3 hours public transit daily. It adds to the work related stress and quality of the life. I currently commute 3 hours everyday in very crowded public transit. It is same level crowd I’ve seen in Indian public transit as a young adult. Only way you will find a decent job is by personal connection. I personally applied for 163 job in accounting field and got few interviews and internships. But I only got the full time job in accounting with my brother’s reference (Sifarish). “Reference”(aka Sifarish/ Nepotism) is very explicitly practiced in Canadian job market.
Drug Problem: I am amazed that in all the comments above no one mentioned the drug problem among the Indian community in Canada. Google about East Indian shootings in Surrey or Brampton. Punjabi males are the poster children of immigrant gangsters. No other immigrant group is more villanized, than our community. There have been hundreds of 20-35 year old east Indian males shot down. They were in drug-related activity. It is a huge problem, and the Punjabi parents sweep it under the rug. Majority of Punjabi kids in my high school did drugs.
I do feel bad for international students being ripped off. They pay three times for colleges that no one ever recognizes. In numbers, I paid $35k for four-year degree, they are paying about $100k for four-year degree. After that, a job is not promised. Personally, I believe the Indian immigrants who came here in 80s, 90s and pre-2010 are the best ones with success stories. And those are the ones we saw with their glossy spending when they used to come back home. Overall, my personal experience is bitter sweet. But future is looking bright. So, I am sticking to Canada.
Well said.
I come from a family of architects, I am a technology expert and Entrepreneur. Canada has been the worst experience for me. I live on rent, people asked me to sell my house in my home country, I refused to do so – still my net loss in Canada is over $1.2MN (my commersial loss is over $12MN). I have more cash in my home country that here.
The Canadian oligopoly learns with every year how to rip-off the next batch of visitors. It is done with the help of the CRTC, Banks AND politicians. Their policy is to get us to build THEIR country and leave after a few years. We buy a house, we sell, foreclose, whatever – the house STILL STAYS IN CANADA!!!! We have list our home-country’s money and goodwill. Does the word ROGUES come to mind?
The latest $15 minimum wage hike is also another ‘bank bailout’ – now the SLAVES can afford to pay the ‘protection’ money (aka mortgage) to the bank.
Here is a true story: My landlord is from Europe. A Jewish Canadian ‘ADVISED’ him to ‘invest’ (give his money) to (un)real-estate in Canada. He bought 3 houses, was going to retire a millionair. He is now in a self-imposed ‘power-sell’. He has to sell ALL his houses within 3 months. this is after SLAVING for years, breaking rest, his wife doing the cleaning, etc. He will BARELY have his own house at the end of it.
Again, Canada is NOT a rich country – it is a PONZI scheme.
This is Canada – there is NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD DEAL!!!
If any politician sees this – the solution is a DISBAND the OLIGOPOLY before it is too late – assuming it isn’t too late already (read Controling Interests and Who owns Canada now – although the second book ‘pretends’ is it better – it is far worse – the oligpoly now operates in STEALTH).
This, hopefully, will be my last words on this subject. Anybody who reads this and still defends Canada’s immigration policy or comes here, DESERVES everything they get!
After struggling for over ten years, you are able to earn a lower middle class salary, and this is even when you were lucky to have entered the high school system rather than the adult school or mature student route which is ineffective. This shows that immigrants to Canada will have to struggle for years, even decades before living a lower middle class lifestyle. Even in India, the cost of living is lower and anyone who works over five years will be rewarded unless they are part of a lower ‘caste’, which is another story, but Canada also is racist in how they treat immigrants.
Hi Del,
You are hilarious and sorry to say a joke yourself. When you write such nonsense, someone like me will ask you what is your basis. Clearly, you have none. Lets move on with some other things. If you have so many complains about Canada, why are you here? I think you are from Italy cause you replied to me before. Almost everyone I have met wants to come to the UK. They want a better life. The better life here is about money.
To Canadians, it’s about work life balance. Canadian salaries may be lower than US but there is a life balance. Most of the complainers here don’t understand that. I am now in UK but will definitely return to Canada next year to enjoy. I find useless competition in the rest of the world a useless game to get involved in. People in Asia, Europe, Middle East are just competing without any foreseeable goals. Australia and Canada are heaven compared to all this.
Second, for young people there is no problem. I have worked in many countries. Even those countries don’t acknowledge every third world degree that falls into their hand. Why should they?
So I suggest, you find another hobby other than complaining here. Go shopping, enjoy the great outdoors, running a business, help the Canadian economy grow. If you don’t like these, Canada is not for you. Best to go back. Good luck!
Hey Salman,
How much is the PROPAGANDA department’s salary? What great ourdoors? Also, you do the typical response of a ‘french canadian’ – ‘why are you still here?’ (CANADA IS THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT ADVERTISES FOR IMMIGRATION SAYING THE ECONOMY IS GROWING, ETC).
I am running businesses. I like complaining – I like this hobby! So, if it ‘hurts your HUBRIS’ feelings don’t read my comments.
Also, Canada DOES NOT OFFER a balanced life – look out the window of your proganda-dapartment office and you will see.
If you want me to go back, please send me you email/phone number so that I can invoice you. Would $114BN be OK?
In case you are being serious (hubris) ‘google secret Canada bank bailout of 2008’ and ‘Canadian banks and Enron’…
As for growing the Canadian economy: Canada does not have one (I am trying my best), it is an OLIGOPOLY!
Also, I now know ALMOST conclusively that all those $300K+ salaries and sunshine-lists are all FAKE!
Thanks
Salman:
First, you have no business telling others what they should do because you have no power over anyone. People are free and you do not have any authority to tell whether they should stay or go. Canada is supposed to be a free country and people can stay here and criticize all they want. Second, no one is really buying your entitlement based lifestyle. On one hand, you are talking work-life balance and then you turn around and say grow Canadian economy by starting a business. Next, you say it is all about money and then try to justify why you should earn less money in Canada. You are free to live any lifestyle you want but do not tell others to live a lifestyle based on your values. This is the exact type of arrogance that people do not like in Canada.
I am an American and I never buy this BS of low salaries and work-life balance philosophy. UK, Canada and Australia suck because of their Monarchy butt kissing ways. You guys are really not happy but always pretend to be happy by giving some crappy emotional logic.
Parag:
Maybe you should consider what others wrote before telling me. No one wants a complainer all the time. Canada is still far better on all KPI. I have been living here since i was a child. It is only the first generation having issues, not the second generation. They are doing just fine.
How funny you say these countries suck? Are you seriously telling me India, Singapore, UEA, Sweden, China, Brazil are better? Get Real!! Almost everyone there want to leave their country for a better life.
Monarch butt kissing or capitalist monoply in USA….They all kiss someone. So dont think the US isnt the same. Yah i have seen how obama, trump and all of them tried to change. They couldnt do anything. So dont talk nonsense. There will always be a hierarchy no matter where you are. If lower pay is equated with stress free life, it is worth it. Just look at the economic hub cities. People working like crazy without any life. Who wants to be there long term??
Well, I have made money and that is how I have time. So cut the crap. You cannot enjoy if you do not have the money. Canada sucks! Do not tell me that it is a great place where people want to be. I cannot ever think of living in Canada. Even during my visits, it is horrible experience. I like a few people but vast majority of Canadians are plain horrible. The very first contact people have of Canadians are really immigrants (restaurant workers, shops, etc.). Everyone looks at you in a scornful way. Even immigrant place hates to see a person with US passport. Everyone in Canada seems to be judging you. I once walked into a restaurant and the waiter tells me that Breakfast will cost you $12 thinking that I could not affort $12 breakfast. May be Canadians do not notice these things but Americans do. I am against Monarchy. Canada is so screwed up that majority of land in Canada is owned by the queen. Out here in America we have much better rights and there is no monarch. Any country with Monarch means that all citizens are second class citizens because the country has relinquished the idea of equality in preference for human idolatry. You guys might try to seek justification that you really have it good, but I say, you have no choice. You guys are just screwed!
Once again, it is only perspective. Let’s see the facts.
You can’t deny that Canada is coming on the top of livelihood index. I don’t know where you have been but Vancouver consistently ranks at the top by world economist.
Second, enjoying life with money is the propaganda that US is selling everywhere. They are too materialistic and can’t enjoy any other way. According to this, the rest of the world would be un-ejoyable. Sounds a bit funny don’t you think? Enjoyment doesn’t equate to money. It only seems so cause corrupt humans in the world want to be make money for everything making it almost impossible for others to go against them. It’s up to us humans to change.
Third, if queen owns Canada, she is doing it by democratic way. If Canadians want, they can choose to own it. They queen will have no objection. Try doing the same against the capitalist venture, banks, and corporations who owns the whole USA, including the politicians. The fact there is wars in many places in the world is cause the USA is losing its presence in the world.
If you want to talk about rights, by a far stretch, all these problems of unequal healthcare, capitalism and homelessness, corporate money laundering, surveillance of government are all violations of rights which you should deserve for being a dabbling player of materialism and glamour! So please, don’t make me laugh anymore!
Yes, in Canada we have many choices that we enjoy as humans. Canada is moderate and thinks a century in advance for the next generation. Canada is not a spendthrift nation. It has many resources but just cause we have does not mean we will misuse it. That is what a mature expansion of human mind is all about. The USA only enjoys an illusion and it is well on its way down. Where are you going to go next and try to justify stupid capitalism and imperialism?
Salman:
These screwed up philosophies are really loser philosophies. I have heard Australians and Canadians talk about the cost of living or best places to live rankings. I have money to buy permanent residencies in both of these countries if I really believed these are really good countries. The fact remains that governments of both Canada and Australia are oppressive governments who suck the money out of rich and give it to losers like you. There I said it. This is exactly how I see Europe, Australia, and Canada. A vast majority of the population in these countries are freeloaders. A vast majority do not have the problem with the political system that helps them. However, it is the winners who have a problem. I have traveled to Europe and Canada so what you say does not surprise me. I have heard expensive health care, gun laws and education statements before. For me, these are parrot phrases that people repeat about the US. I love the American health care system. Thank god that it is expensive because whole Canada would come to the US if it was not expensive. The vast majority of Americans have health insurance and the quality of care is excellent. Contrary to what you hear, health care in America is affordable because the majority of Americans have health insurance through their work.
The most important thing about being an American is that you take charge of your own future. An American is second to no other American (no Monarchy), and US government is among the least oppressive government (when oppression is measured by taxation). The main benefit of living in America is that your true potential comes out. If you read the comments about immigrants in Canada then you will realize that Canada goes that extra mile to suppress the talent of immigrants. Canada wants their money but not talent. By comparison, US never goes and seeks immigrants to do low-level jobs. Most of the restaurant workers, truck drivers, construction workers in the US are Americans. Legal immigrants in the US come here for higher level jobs like professors, doctors, entrepreneurs, etc.
The type of immigrants that will love Canada are really the scum of earth refugees. Or real losers who have no real motivation in life and want to subscribe to stupid philosophies like Capitalism is bad, Corporations are bad, etc. Anyone who is educated or wants to make a difference in his life or world may not find Canada suitable place to live. Canada lies to get these guys into Canada and then people are exposed to oppressive goverment/Oligopoly. So you see nothing is absolutely good or bad. If you are a loser, the US is absolutely worst place for you and Canada is the best place to live. However, if you are a winner then you would not want to live in a place where your true potential is suppressed. America is a place for winners. It may not be perfect but there is no other country that even comes close if you have a winning attitude.
Parag
Here you are again with your propaganda. I don’t feel like taking you back to school but I think I need to clear your BS. That’s all I will do in this reply. First, you say Canada doesn’t like people like me who judge and now seems like you are the one judging by saying loser philosophies. Ironic to say the least. There is no such thing as winning and losing philosophies. Let’s move on.
Yes, giving people charity and those in need is no problem. Selfish losers like you who only think about money are the problem. Yes, vast majority are freeloaders but that is because the govt doesn’t know how to get rid of them. The opposite is true when too many people are selfish and think they deserve ever more money for hard work, then society pays and you start to see poverty appear as happening in the USA. They think resources are endless and they are somehow in heaven.
It is not true that Canada doesn’t want talent. They fully want but they hold everyone accountable to a standard. Not every tom dick and harry makes it here. I am working as a second generation. Do you think they don’t want me? Besides, look at the message of not wanting people that is sent by trump and boris. Canada doesn’t intentionally supress anyone. It’s the people who fail to see what the country wants. USA is saturated market. Canada is growing economy. Canada needs people to do day to day stuff that will run the economy like build infrastructure. They don’t need to put people to the moon and open NASA here.
You say people like refugees will find Canada great. If you were a refugee, you would understand what basic need of life is. Having money is not the reason of your existence in life. If you can make a difference, go help them.
You say corporation, capitalism is bad philosophies. Only a scumbag like you will say its not. Open your mind. Yes capitalism and corporations can help in many ways but don’t forget the other side. Almost all corporation don’t play in fair trade practices, they promote consumerism which results in misusing the world’s resources. All these big money that the usa has is not transparent of its sources. They accept lobbying as a way of life. Tell me if you don’t think its corruption.
I can go on more and more like how USA wants to buy resources in many parts of the world. No sane country would allow it. Saudis sold themselves in this manner as well as places in Africa and asia. So NO, the only reason USA is winning is cause these people are losers. Look at china, its rising keeping their own culture, language and barring US influence in their country. There is no real point in arguing with you. I have heard it all before and like I said, a human being is to be more conscious about everything rather than win and think wealth is apex of success. These are all the grey areas in life. Personally, I believe that’s where religion comes in. No religion prescribes a winning mentality at the cost of other humans. Rather it teaches to be humble with what one has and lead a normal life helping others. So YES, even religion promotes socialism and that is what humans will be judged on eventually, not their winning economy. Clearly you don’t care about this. Also btw, I know people like you are only fan of USA while its good. In bad times, you will run to the next country and suck them. And FYI, I am an American and lived in seattle. If I wanted I could also buy PR anywhere and was even offered NZ PR. I don’t need to brag to prove myself. Only stupid Americans who are blind to their govt’s wrong doing go on bragging about their success and their country. That’s why most of the world hates USA.
Salman:
I do not want to reply to all your comments because you are wrong in many ways. Just, for example, Canada is growing economy and USA is not– Not true.
Everyone hates the US. Well, that is how I want it to be. If people do not hate you then you are not successful. This is one thing I never got about Europe and Canada. There really think that being popular is a good thing. Not right for me. When you have the lion’s share of everything then people are going to hate you. The thing is that there is nothing they can do. Act on your hatred and you are a dead man. You are only allowed to talk about US hatred. Clearly, our viewpoints are entirely different. I do not really buy your way of thinking. I have heard these comments in my travels and ignored them because subscribing to them means low salaries, high taxes, and money going to losers. I do not even buy finite resources aspect because of assumptions that people make. American approach to economy is pushing growing the economy by pushing technology frontier. US is pushing technology frontier in space travel to access future resources from other planet. So go ahead hate all you want there is not much you can do. Most canadians come to US for shopping and save taxes. On annual basis 30,000 canadians migrate to US as against 9,000 Americans migrating to Canada (from much greater population). If you call Canada with low GDP growth, low salaries and high taxes great place to live then so be it. No one is buying your BS.
its funny with those big words. lions share is not the problem. its one thing to brag about rights but another to ignore the responsibilities. there are many things the rest of the world can do. you just cant even fathom them. in the 2008 crisis, the only reason USA didnt go into the great depression is cause china boosted its investment by magnitudes and the FED reserves are just making money like there is no tomorrow….so bug off with your nonsense excuse. USA is on borrowed money and cant even take care of their own lion’s den….haha lion’s share…joke of the century.
those 9000 coming to canada are probably the smart ones with a clear vision.
your knowledge is very limited. i suggest you read philoshophy, economics, and politics as a start. if i argue, you dont even have knowledge to debate. this is where europe excels far more. capitalism is falling under its own weight. the model of pre-1970 and post 1940s was the one that was sustainable.
see lectures by famous economists like Yanis Varoufakis, Younis and so on.
Lastly, like i said before money is not the aim. if it was wall street bankers would be nobel prize winners. they are not. real world academic visionaries are. you are not even close to their level and there is no point of debating with jokers so stop bragging nonsense
Actually, I am in Toronto, Canada and it is totally messed up country. I have to eat 5 times to get my protein intake because I realized that most of the items do not contain cheese. I am never worried about US economy because it is the debt to GDP ratio and credit ratings that count. For all those bragging about China, well look at Chinese credit rating it is mediocre. America credit rating is highest any country can get. If US was really worried about its debt then it would not go on slapping tariffs. America kicks butt. All this talk that America is weak is no senses. It is even kicking Canada’s butt and Canadian PM does not know what to do. All those tariffs and America is still #1 in credit rating and real GDP consumption. As I said, you can hate America and criticize it all you want, there is nothing that is going to change. America is about being #1 everyone else is going to shuffle its ranking below it.
From what I see the class barriers in Canada work like this:
1st Class – English and French.
2nd Class – Chinese and Muslims/Arabs (yes, really).
3rd Class – Indians and South Asians and British Isles.
4th Class – Ukrainians/Eastern Europeans (but they are lead to believe they are first because their skin colour is white).
5th Class – Filipinos (they think they are better because the people they server, live-in-caregivers, etc make them feel first class).
6th Class – New Immigrants, 1st Generation Immigrants.
7th Class – Anybody who is fighting for recognition (volunteers, etc).
8th Class – If anybody calls you ‘Guys’ you are 8th class! When they call me ‘guys’ I tell them all me ‘Sir’ or ‘Mr’.
I have not fitted the blacks because I really can’t see a pattern in the class they belong.
If you have MONEY then no matter what, you are FIRST CLASS (but don’t shop at wholesale or wall-marts or eat and McShops – if you do your class goes below 5th!)! In other words, don’t work SLAVE jobs and believe you are first class, if you are a not earning over $360,000 per year, delivering Pizza, driving a taxi the class barriers applies to you – not matter how big your chipboard house in the ‘slum’ is.
Yesterday (recently) the CRA was fined for harming a business in B.C. (Nanimo) with the judge saying ‘It was reprihensible and malicious’… , many might think that it is a victory (Canada is great), but it is NOT!!!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/cra-tax-prosecution-malicious-injustice-1.4563235
Canada is an OLIGOPOLY (a corrupt one at that) and the CRA, CRTC etc are there to protect them. So, this family getting $1.6 million of (depreciated) Canadian $ after 12 years of fighting is NOTHING for the oligarchy as they have succeeded in destroying the business and the oligarchy has protected themselves and earned BILLIONS of $ by destroying this business and family and also by INTIMIDATING other businesses like them.
So, this is again a load of BS and shows how corrupt and EVIL Canada is!!!
My story:
When I started my IT and technology business in 2009, every (yes EVERY) IT/tech company in the city called me for an ‘interview’ – they said they will help me get customers and (some) gave me ONE order. With the award of the order, they told me ‘this is a list of our customers’ so please don’t approach them. When my salesperson visited a customer one IT company called me and threatened me. (these were all white companies and First Nations companies – even the First Nations think brown people are ‘dirt’). My driving testor was ‘first nations’, until I threatened to SUE the government he kept failing me saying ‘your country people do not know to drive’. I have driven in many countries for over 26 years! The same happened to my daughter in North York!
I now live in a different city. My salesperson is WHITE, but still they do it, they call me and say ‘your selling methods are aggressive’, or, ‘you don’t know to manage your business’. Finally, when they find out that the business is ‘brown’ owned, they attack the WHITE manager for working for a brown company. This is not only white people, Chinese, Indians, Sri Lankans, Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, Blacks (especially Trinidadians/Jamaicans), Muslims/Arabs – they ALL are racist (Ukrainians/Eastern Europeans think they are God’s chosen people for Canada)!
The most recent ‘unpleasant’ experience was in an Indian mall in Brampton, ON.
So, yes, if you are migrating to Canada, be aware that not only WHITES, your are fighting your own kind and also other ethnics!
Canada’s immigration policy is ONLY to help the OLIGOPOLY -the rest of us are FOOLS and SLAVES in an ‘estate’ belonging to about 75 families!
Tony, now in Canada, they give preferential treatment to women for even low earning jobs like construction worker. But guess where the female construction worker will be assigned? Right at ground level directing traffic for double the wage of the man building the 80 floor high rise for independent women. Feminism is also funded by the 75 families in Canada. Rockefellers funded feminism with the help of CIA asset Gloria Steinem in the USA.
If you are brown skinned, you will experience prejudice from BLACKs too. Blacks (especially Trinidadians, Jamaicans) believe they are a better class of black and they prefer to deal ONLY with white people.
True story: White salesperson makes sale to black business. Brown systems designer person goes to do business study. White ‘partner’ of ‘black’ customer immediately decides that nothing that the brown person does is good enough. Black customer aborts project. Happens every time!
It really is CRAZY! Again I have lived in many countries, Canada is really SCARY!
Time to sue somebody!
Again this is from experiences!
To moderator: Please link to this article, it will help others: I realized Canada’s health care is a racket by 2009 because I build businesses and know how taxes work – I also overheard a conversation between two finance staff of the finance ministry where they were ‘laughing’ at ordinary citizens as they believe that the ‘healthcare’ is actually for the RICH AND ELITE of Canada:
Following is an article from another site about the Canadian healthcare racket, I know this story is true because a similar incident has happened to somebody very close to me:
Excerpt:
Most Canadians, with the exception of Alberta, where I live for half of the year, either pay for our hospital and doctor visits as part of our taxes or are billed monthly by the province we live in. Having been born and raised in Canada, I’ve taken for granted being able to see doctors or receiving emergency medical care whenever I need it – right up to the point where I no longer could. I needed to visit the hospital, shortly after moving from one province to another. I’d registered as a resident there, but my paperwork had somehow been lost. A month after seeing a doctor, I received an $800 bill in the mail. So, that sucked. Even when things work the way that they’re meant to, not everything is covered. Things like dentistry, massage therapy or counseling only happen on a pay-per-use basis, or if you’re lucky enough to have a job that affords you a health plan. I fall into this latter group, thanks to my partner.
And then there’s the cost of drugs.
As The Guardian recently pointed out, Canada has the second highest drug prices of any industrialized country in the world. We’re also the only country in the world with a universal health plan that doesn’t cover the cost of drugs. If you’re a Canadian with a chronic illness, like my father before he passed in 2008, affording the drugs required to ease your pain or keep you alive can leave a family in poverty. Hell, thanks to some interesting/poor choices in my past, I’ve been left with PTSD. Without my partner’s health plan, paying for the drugs that help me to feel safe and grounded while I work my shit out in therapy and on the streets every day might be too expensive for me to afford. I have to imagine that a lot of Americans worry about similar things happening to them.
Read the full article at https://boingboing.net/2018/02/15/canadian-healthcare-isnt-as.html
Many jobs in Toronto don’t offer payment to insurance plans for dental, eyecare and other treatment. If you need a root canal, you’re out of $1,000, and if you lose any of your teeth in an accident at your general labour job, not only will the Canadian company use loopholes to avoid responsibility, but you will have to pay the full cost of Orthodontic treatment which is in the tens of thousands, and inflated because only Canadians can afford insurance to cover those costs.
WARNING: IF you’re MIDDLE & UPPER CLASS in your home country, PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE CONSIDERING THE LIFE CHANGING MOVE TO CANADA! Your immigration consultant, the Canadian government and other sponsors of Canadian Public Relations are LYING TO YOU. IT’S VERY HARD TO FIND A JOB IN CANADA! Do your research and don’t rely on snake oil salesmen like lawyers who work for the Canadian immigration industry.
If you are earning well and living a good life in India, it’s best to stay here itself. I made the mistake of moving to Canada after hearing great things about the country from an immigration consultant who happened to be a friend 🙁 Tried searching for a job but couldn’t find any as I didn’t have the so called ‘Canadian Experience.’ I wish I had come across this post before I wasted my hard earned money in applying for a Canadian PR.
The immigration consultant is not your friend because that ‘immigration consultant’ screwed you over like a snake oil salesman, or even worse, because one can always throw away their losses and start over, but once you immigrate to Canada and leave everything behind, it’s very difficult to move back to your home country because you sold everything in India to live in Canada, and now jobs aren’t there in Canada except for white men to work in office towers, and their white female counterparts to answer phone calls in those office towers for $65,000 a year.
Thank God! I came to this site and have read the opinions before I paid money to Immigration agency. I am 44M, drawing a very good salary in India equivalent to 72K CAD. For past one month somehow this Canada immigration thoughts entered into my mind and I started doing research. From the time I started, I was not feeling well about my thought but now after going through the comments here, I am OUT of it, can sleep well tonight and from tomorrow will start focusing on improving the career in India itself. Thanks to all of you.
To Canada Aspirant: You are indeed very lucky you found this site! I did research too, Stephen Harper saying that IBM says they are short of 60,000 IT engineers, teachers, etc, etc… When I came to Canada, CIBC put a 21-day hold on my money, about 6 months later the Manager at TD did something similar… that is when I decided something was wrong. As a data pattern analyst and an entrepreneur who has built and done business in other countries I began to realize that the ‘poverty’ I see in Canada is not my imagination (later I read the books ‘Controlling interests’ and ‘Who owns Canada now’), so around July 2009, I entered ‘Canada bank problems’ in Google and got 2 results; the secret bank bailout and how Canadian banks were fined by the USA for the Enron ponzi scheme. I do not wish to say more, but I will in the near future as I am doing a full research in to this.
Apartments located near 500 Dawes Road in the gentrifying East York borough of Toronto is very poor in condition, that several tenants voiced their concerns that pest infestations, dust and mite allergens, mould and mildew, and very high fire risks are issues in the apartment, and what does the Councillor, a feminist advocate does in response? She sides with the slumlord, who is a Canadian woman of privilege, and then censors any newspaper using libel chill to stop any discussion of those run down apartments in Dawes Road. The apartments of concern are in such a poor state that it’s akin to slum housing in 3rd world countries. The Canadian government does not like these types of stories and complaints from surfacing in the media.
Stay in India, and if you need to move, there is the entire European Union and the USA to migrate to….DON’T CHOOSE CANADA! You will not find such high wages even in cities like Toronto. It’s serious in Toronto that even applying to clean the floors of a factory or warehouse for minimum wage is competitive!
I think Canada is Oligarchy where a few people control most of the wealth. What seems like racism is probably effects of Oligarchy. Immigrants come to Canada thinking they will strike richness only to realize artificial constraints that Canada imposes. Most Canadians are born in this system and do not necessarily recognize it or worry about it. Immigrants take notice and consider this racism. If you are coming from India, you need to realize that you are coming to an economy that is half the size of India with 5-10 times higher cost of living and one-third the GDP growth rate. In other words, you are making a transition from booming economic system to a depressed system. You will exhaust your money fast and the money that you will actually earn from a job will be siphoned in taxes and other daily expenses. Westerners are quick to point out caste system in India but feminism is also carving out gender-based entitlement that is no different than caste-based politics. The only difference is that case based discrimination is illegal, but feminism is considered progressive.
A white Canadian feminist will never sign a complaint to the government to increase wages and to improve better working conditions for Caribbean and African female immigrants who work in warehouses and factories for 1 cent above the legal hourly wage in Ontario.
I think it is a setup. They want you to come over with money, spend it and then go back home poor. Think about it. They will not let you come if you do not have money. Once you have money then they will let you come into Canada with false promises of booming economy, and not give you a job. Then they would expect you to work for minimum wage AND expect you to say how wonderful Canada is!
True indeed. It’s a shame that immigration consultants, lawyers and post-secondary colleges and university administrators are lying to foreigners about how great Canada is, when it’s not.
In the USA, one can get houses on a lot which has a large backyard, in states like Louisiana, Florida and even Texas for less than C$300,000 if converted to Canadian currency.
In Canada, even if you live 50 miles away from the “Greater Toronto Area” or “greater Vancouver Region”, houses on very small lots cost over C$550,000. It doesn’t make sense when Canada is only 1/10th of the population of the USA, but almost as large as the USA if you omit the arctic regions, and it will still cost a million for an igloo up in Nunavut because it’s ‘world class’ like Toronto.
It is 2018, and it is 10+ years since we came to Canada. Canada is THE MOST RACIST and discriminatory, bigoted and HUBRIS country on the planet!
Canadians will only accept you if you have CASH and willing to do ‘slave jobs’. Banks (and the government, etc) are not tolerant to people, they are tolerant to CASH.
For example, if you are a new immigrant the Drivers’ Test will FAIL YOU THREE TIMES. Since you need to go to driver training, the entire process costs you over $1,500.00.
The sad part is the CASH racism is adopted by even your ‘own kind’. No white or newer immigrant will accept the fact that another colour other than old Canadian white can own executive businesses or hold executive positions like CEO, Managing Director, etc.
Note: RACISM where it matters, good jobs, etc – not having your fellow ‘slum’ neighbour saying good morning to you…
Canadians LOVE YOU and are NOT RACIST as long as you are doing a lesser job and driving a car lesser than them.
Take note, NOT ONLY, white Canadians are racist, new immigrants, for example (from experiences) from China, India, Philippines DO NOT WANT TO BE EMPLOYED by other colours. If they do they want PREMIUM WAGE. They will BEG and WORSHIP white employers/people (again from experiences).
Then others will ‘ask you to work free’ so that you can get ‘Canadian experience’ (happens almost one per month). 10+ years down the line and still a ‘Canadian’ (brown, black, yellow AND white) will tell me ‘you need Canadian experience, so you can’t charge these rates..’ (I have proof!)
Ukrainian Canadians and Eastern Europeans believe that it is their (God given) RIGHT to ‘educate/guide’ all new comers on how to live, etc (they assume that you lived in a ‘sh*t hole’ before coming to Canada… We have had Canadians correct our English only to learn from us that we were explaining to our Son the meaning of a word in another language. English is our first language and we speak 2 other languages.
Canada is NOT multicultural, Canada is a country of different cultures doing their own thing with sporadic integration which is negligible. In other words, if I am correct ‘The oligarchy promotes this to divide and rule (and keep the CASH within themselves)’.
Canadians are so HUBRIS that if you complain/criticize about the country they will ask you to ‘leave if you don’t like it’ and I now respond ‘only when I get my refund with interest’ and they change their tune.
In short, the Canadian immigration policy is a MONEY GRAB for the country, and Canada is an Oligarchy, if not,
I have now come to the assumption that all the ‘high salaries’ etc are all GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA. Canada is in fact one of the POOREST countries on the planet. That would explain why there is someone ‘hitting you for a buck’ (begging) in the name of ‘charity’ at every corner.
Whatever the reason, Canada is NOT WHAT IT IS Portrait-ed TO BE in the ‘fake’ (advertisements) media. It is extremely challenging for a new-comer and gets worse as you go along. Canada’s immigration policy is approximately 30 years old, and the ‘writing is on the wall’.
I’m here for 4 years and never saw anything rasist so far… You know.. if you think and talk about this, you will see and experience it everywhere every day.
After graduation, I started to work for minimum wage and now (after 1.5years) I make around 80k per year with no previous Canadian experience. All you need is hard work. Canadians will respect you if you work hard. So stop complaining and work hard!
You are a LAIR! Please give us your company name and designation. Since you are painting such a wonderful picture of Canada I will get the Hon. PM to give you a medal! Having said that, as my comment says ‘SPORADIC’ ‘success’ does not count. The government has a ‘affirmative action’ where they pick a TOKEN guy like you to do their PIMPING! 🙂
By the way – what is ‘around 80K’????????
Also, your MATH does not add up!
You have been here for 4 years, worked for 1.5 years, that means you studied for LESS THAN 2.5 years. What did you study? This information will help New immigrants who are complaining to get ahead!
Again, plese let us know the name of th company you work for that promoted you to $80K in 1.5 years. Wow!
Average salaries are very lower in Toronto. Likely $35,000 to $55,000 a year for a job which requires at least 1 year Canadian experience and a 4-year degree in a competitive field or industry like Management or IT.
“If you think and talk about this, you will experience (racism)”….
This is what Canadians are good at—gaslighting the victims of discrimination. denying racism is considered very offensive, that in European countries which took part in WW2, denying certain genocides is a crime because it not only offends, but it causes hate and anger against minority groups. But very tragically, Canadians hide racism in order to give a false image of Canada as a welcoming and multi-cultural country.
Denying racial discrimination in Canada is a growing belief within Canadians who only want immigrants to arrive to Canada with their life savings so that it artificially boosts the GDP of feminist-occupied cities like Toronto which act like a parasite against the working class and wealthier provinces.
‘Slave Jobs’ at Fiesta Foods for minimum wage are competitive. Canadians are complaining that the immigrants are ‘taking away their jobs’, even in service sector dead-end jobs!
The Eastern world is growing while the Western world is slowly declining. Why would a middle class male or female from India, UAE, Singapore or other developing nations want to live like second class citizens, worse than how dogs are treated, to live a very depressing life in a very feminist country like Canada?
If you work in an office and a Canadian female doesn’t like the way you look or your culture, or if she views you as a competitive burden (she fears that you are smarter than her), all she has to do is cry that you harassed her, and once she complains to HR and the Ontario Social Justice Tribunals, there goes your job and reputation.
For you computer technicians out there, please share this website article using your SEO skills and expertise! More potential immigrants need to know the truth about immigration to Canada! The Canadian establishment only wants educated and skilled immigrants because of their assets and monetary base!
Canada will never allow a 17-year-old to become an immigrant under their points system, but they want a 45-year-old Manager with MBAs into Canada, but there are no jobs to commensurate with that immigrant’s experience in their career!
Prepare to struggle to even find minimum wage janitorial jobs in Canada. Don’t say that I didn’t warn you.
Letthem know that scams like Primerica, Vector Marketing and Amway are MLM Ponzi schemes which survive on recruitments, and are not real careers!
Ironically, at most Primerica offices, they hire a white Canadian woman as a receptionist as a full-time paid employee, so that she can call and scam immigrants, mostly newcomers, to an “interview” for a “job” at Primerica.
I personally try to spread the word around as much as possible THAT CANADIAN IMMIGRATION IS SCAM AND DON”T COME HERE!
You need to share this website to others! Canada immigration is set up as a Ponzi scheme.
Educated immigrants cannot apply for welfare, because they have to show proof of funds to immigrate to Canada, but a white female Canadian who works as an escort under the table is eligible for the best welfare that Canada can provide as long as she tells the social worker that her criminal pimp boyfriend who pays her $1,000 a month under the table in child support left her to fend her for her unwanted pregnancy.
The Canadian government has even created censorship walls to block the Internet. I was once in Canada and typed google.com and it changed to google.ca. The Canadian government does not want you to do a worldwide search. The search engine is tuned to show biased results. This way Canadians are shown how great their country is and criticism of Canada is screened out. Canada is anything but a free country. It was different a decade ago, but today Canada is a communist country.
Websites such as NOTCANADA and the comments section of “Canadian Immigrant why Canadian immigrants leave Canada” article on Canadian Immigrant website were shut down.
If canada wasn’t one giant Ponzi scheme, they wouldn’t have mysterious agents shutting down websites and comment sections criticizing Canada.
I used to complain on Twitter that the Canadian law enforcement allows Canadian women to pose nude around other people’s young children, and Twitter banned me for “hate speech”. All that I said was that parents should talk with their child if their Canadian teacher or daycamp teacher ever showed their nudity around them or other children during yearly Pride.
Honestly speaking, Canada should just stop skilled immigration. There are are just lying to all skilled workers that are immigrating to Canada with their money. Canada is only good for refugees or illegal low skilled job kind of people or if you have serious problem back home.
All skilled workers come here thinking that their existing qualification and experience will help them to get a great job but that’s all lie. Companies here only hire workers with local qualification and experience. So coming here be ready to start from scratch, meaning for example if you are 40 year old Finance professional with a Finance Degree and an MBA with lets say 15 years experience then you will be very lucky if you get a paid job in your field within the first 6 months but then again you will be working as the same level as freshly qualified person most likely 22-23 years old. To move up the ladder you will definitely need to do local qualification. So if you are okay to do this at the age of 40 then you should come to Canada. And it’s not that Canadian education is of high quality that’s requires extensive studying, research or practical experience, it’s just very expensive and its Canadian so all employers want that.
The worst part living in Canada is that Canadians think they are doing immigrants a favour by letting them come, that is not the case at all. Every year roughly 300,000 Immigrants come here with an average of CA$ 40-50K, that’s in a year foreign money coming in is between CA$12-15 Billion. This is just the money they bring for their survival. I am not counting other money spent during the immigration process. Out of the 300K many will leave Canada withing 1-3 years and some will leave after they get their citizenship. Because of this there is always demand of skilled workers and immigration is always open so is this scam. So this whole process does helps a bit to the Canadian Economy. Many of the Canadians have jobs because of the demand created by immigrants coming to the country every year. But Canadians being the most stuck people I have met, always looking down upon immigrants.
So my question to all skilled people who are planning to come to Canada, why will you want to come here?
I remember how Primerica used to con thousands of newcomers with the promise of a “job” at Primerica. Primerica is an MLM fraudulent Pyramid scheme where when one is “hired” at Primerica, they pay a $99 fee, then they have to “recruit” several others in other to “earn” a $500 paycheck. It’s a scam which thrived on newcomers that Primerica was actually endorsed by job agencies in Toronto a few years ago, but I heard that after complaints, Primerica isn’t allowed to use Ontario Woodgreen Employment/Youth Employment services or the TDSB operated employment services to advertise any “job vacancies”.
It’s gotten so bad in the Greater Toronto Area that people are literally fighting over for garbage collection non-union jobs. Remember folks, it’s only white Caucasian Canadians who are allowed to work in unions which pay better rates!
Canada wants to import at least 350,000 immigrants next year. I shudder to think of their destiny in Canada. Jobs in Canada are already difficult to find, and apartments will be a sore to rent because of artificial demand.
I remember reading a story where an international student, a male, was falsely accused of sexual harassment by a Canadian female at their university campus.
The male student was under investigation by Toronto law enforcement, but it was abusive, that the international student later killed himself because the police were harassing him and he was innocent, but the police harassed him.
You have to be very careful at the new wave of racism in Canada, known as feminism.
I’m sick and tired of hearing this bullshit all the time. My father was an immigrant, he came with a little money in his pocket and work jobs he would never do in his mother country, took English courses that he had to pay back in full, but he did his jobs and kept quiet, now he’s retired and enjoying life. Immigrants now are self entitled man children that expect everything given to them on a silver platter. If you don’t like it here go back to your own country c@nts. I’m working overseas and I tell you, Canada is one of the few countries that aren’t a total sh$thole. So let’s keep it that way, and get Trudeau out of office, he’s destroying the country.
For someone who has been visiting Canada since 1990s, let me tell you that blame needs to be shared. Canada was a different country in the 1990s. As a tourist, Canadian government used to refund taxes that I used to pay. Travel between the US and Canada was a piece of cake before September 11. Around 2005, Canadian government got greedy in part due to financial mismanagement. Like a sponge, the Canadian government is soaking money from all over the place. So are businesses. NAFTA also benefited Canada in the 1990s so there was a boom in the economy. Canada is a shit country today. Do not compare stories from immigrants of the past with immigrants today. Earlier immigrants came here with little education so they did jobs and were happy. Today, money soaking Canadian government will lie to get the richest immigrants, soak the money they bring and make them work at hourly wages. What you have here is a scam and you cannot blame immigrants for telling the truth. Even if you immigrate from the US or the UK, the Canadian government will make you take English test so that it can milk several hundred dollars from you. Canada is on the road towards poverty and is scavenging for any money it can find. The cost of living is skyrocketing. It is a country that want to be US while keeping European culture. You cannot be both.
I voted for Stephen Harper during 2015. I knew Justine Trudeau (feminist lover) was going to win because of WEED and his selfie pics. I still voted conservative…
What most Canadians who are immigrants (not Canadian born) don’t realize that if USA became a second world country, CANADA would be doomed. We rely on USA and we need them badly. Trudeau loves MUZZLIMZ and feminists.
wait till 2020, White people know that they are becoming minorities, and should start moving to White Majority areas to escape racism from non-whites. I knew a few white families that moved to Northern BC and the Island. as of 2016, Whites are only 73% of Canadian population. Maybe 74% if you include White South Americans and Eastern Europeans who immigrated to Canada recently.
This country will be doomed in the next 5 years, and Major cities will be seeing a WHITE FLIGHT and they will move to smaller cities and towns, while Toronto becomes Islamic, and Vancouver becomes Beijing.
Don’t you realize that even if you’re a brown skin colour, Canadian-born Sikh like Jagmeet Singh of the NDP Federal Party, Canadians will still call you a Muslim?
White Canadians don’t have your interests at heart. When Ontario Conservative Premier Mike Harris imposed severe welfare austerity in Ontario, he knew it was targeting the new wave of newcomers to Canada who were of African and Caribbean origin (Asian immigrants came mostly in the mid to late 1990s).
Vancouver was already populated with Mainland Chinese and Hong Kong foreign investors since the 1980s, nothing new.
But why feel any pity for Canadian whites? They’re all over the world spreading their political agenda to foreign countries like a moral police.
Do you even know where, how, when and why India implemented very stern laws regarding gender issues and financial issues (such as demonetizing 500 rupee and 1000 rupee notes?).
It’s the white Canadians and a few white Americans who are imposing a cultural revolution. India swallowed Western feminism and LGBT agenda like a thirsty person gulping down water after a 30 min walk in the desert.
Do you think that white Canadians would welcome you with open arms if you advised them to become vegetarians? So why feel pity for white Canadians who are moral and cultural agents of discord?
1950s European wave of immigration is different than 21st century wave of immigration. Many European immigrants who fled Italian fascism or Nazi Germany were living in a time when houses didn’t cost 50-80 years of one’s minimum wage salary.
Try finding a decent family size home on minimum wage in Canada. $11.40 per hour doesn’t cut it for a liveable wage.
It’s unfair that the Canadian government is lying to immigrants and fooling them to immigrate to Canada as unemployed and jobless. No one from the current professional immigrant class in Canada wanted to compete with 15 year old Canadian high school students for part time McDonald’s jobs. Those professional immigrants were probably owning restaurants and businesses before selling everything they have to immigrate to Canada under lies and deception.
I also find the statement: “If you do not like it here then go back where you came from” illogical. You cannot bring a rich immigrant by lying and then let him exhaust his life’s saving because he cannot find a job, and then tell him to go back home broke! For this statement to make any sense, Canadian taxpayers should refund all the money for lying. Most existing Canadian taxpayers are the ones that are benefitting from the money that immigrants bring with them. You cannot run a scam and take all the money and then tell the person giving you the money to go back home.
Scams like Primerica or Vector Marketing only require that the “job applicant” pay a fee of a few hundred in order to earn a “job”, but Canadian immigration is one giant Ponzi scheme which destroys lives, careers, countries and societies! Think of what happens when a doctor from a low-income country migrates to Canada, and ends up homeless on the street! The low-income country loses a doctor, and the doctor loses his livelihood and ends up a burden on Canadian uptight society.
@ Parag: I don’t understand why you expect immigrants to Canada to remain passive at an urbanite from Toronto shoving their genitalia in front of their 5-year-old daughter, but in the USA when Blacks organize a protest to end racism, the “Natives” run them over with their car, but if a brown person was to drive that car, people would be calling for the death penalty.
In Quebec City, a young white French Quebecois male complained on Facebook how Arab “rapefugees” were harassing women (white women), & then a few weeks later he stormed into a Mosque, and murdered at least 6 men in a mass shooting, but he was not charged with terrorism or called to be imprisoned for life.
The real “Natives” of Canada and USA are Indigenous/Aboriginal/Eskimo tribes whose lands were stolen by the Caucasians. Ironically, a Caucasian settler in the 1800s paid little or nothing for land expanding vast territories because they stole it, but now, everyone expects immigrants to Canada to shell out over 1 million for a storage unit size house in Toronto.
You should also read the calculated sexual harassment campaign against Indo-MPP Darshan Kong article found on this website.Apparently, he was targeted because his cultural way of interaction was viewed as sexual harassment to a Canadian woman. This is no different in Jim Crow when Black people were accused of sexually harassing white women just by looking at them the wrong way.
Don’t worry. The so-called native who ran over the crowd will also be given the death penalty. America is much more fair society than Canada is. Just look at wealth distribution in the US. Legal immigrants make higher wages, on average than natives. In fact, you cannot immigrate to the US unless you have a job. America did its search for “universal” values at its founding, and if you bring “other” values to America then America is not going to tolerate them unless they are shown to be “universally” good ideas. Your comments are somewhat judgemental and a little bit racist as well. In essence, you are recommending censorship (nudity, etc.). Democratic societies allow free discourse and only ideas accepted to majority get traction. The ideas of censorship might look good for you but Canadian society is rejecting them. So, you have to show some respect to democratic institutions. Otherwise, you will be considered a bigot. The racism that you seem to be claiming may not a there after all because you may be coming across a wrong way to most Canadians because you seem to have some preconceived hatred towards Canadian values. Immigration requires a degree of adjustment from one’s part to be successful. You cannot bring your old values into a new system and expect the new system to accommodate your old values and culture.
hello everyone..my name is Imtiaz (37Y) and living in Dhaka, Bangladesh. By profession i m a banker (Sr. Asst. Vice President position) with 12 yrs of experience in HSBC n in a local bank. Presently me n my spouse (also a banker ) income is approx. USD3,000 per month (including cash salary & other non-cash benefits). My younger brother along his wife just immigrated to Vancouver despite of having good jobs here. i m living with my parent’s n have one daughter of 17M old. i m kind of thinking to apply for immigration to canada shortly. My younger brother has a plan to bring my parents to canada AEAP. So i m very much startled reading above experiences regarding migration to Canada. Can anyone give his/her honest opinion knowing the actual situation over there n give suggestion plz. Thanks a lot.
Mr. Imtiaz,
You’re going to struggle in Canada because you’re not going to be hired as a Manager/VP of a financial institution when Canada doesn’t recognize foreign credentials, nor foreign accounting/banker designations.
Medical doctors from India who conducted life saving surgeries are condemned to cleaning toilets for minimum wage in Canada…And don’t be fooled by brainwashed people who assume that they can live comfortably on $11/hr in Toronto or Vancouver….THAT’S POVERTY LEVEL WAGES IN CANADA.
You’re better off applying for jobs in your field in United Kingdom and European Union….Canada doesn’t recognize foreign credentials, and they now use a covert racist way to deny immigrants a job in their field which Canadians will not talk to you about because Canadians need your life savings to boost the economy in Toronto and Vancouver.
Canada also has this nasty form of white supremacy disguised as white feminism….Your wife is also going to be discriminated in the job market in Canada, unless she is 100% Canadian white.
Nooooooo….dont come here! I’m Yadesh (41M) and I was a ACCA Member who worked in India, United Arab Emirates, Luxembourg, Singapore and Great Britain……I was unemployed for over 1 year here in Toronto and I was forced to apply for $11.40/hr cleaner and janitor jobs….I felt dehumanisation when I was being interviewed for a cleaner position….This white woman from HR looked at me as if I didn’t even deserve a cleaner job….She knew from the start that she wanted to waste my time and “put me in my place” by rejecting me for the lowest paid job ever that even illiterate people can work here in Canada.
I think I now understand why young Black and brown male immigrants end up resorting to crime; the system in Canada wouldn’t hire them and bills have to be paid.
Is it that dire that you cant use your ACCA credentials to find work back in London, England or in UAE? Wow.
Thank God I read this post before I made payment to the immigration Consultant!
If you’re already established in your home country that is India or any emerging economy, I see no reason for anyone to immigrate to Canada and waste their life fighting for toilet cleaning jobs along with the other 100,000+ yearly skilled immigrants to Canada.
Hi everyone i am also planning to move to Canada with my family, but as per all this conversation now i am concerned.
Secure a job first, then move.
Don’t move if you have a family. Unless you have so much money that you are moving to Canada to retire then you may be fine. Otherwise, it is not a good idea because you will run out of money and then you cannot live in Canada or go back. At that point, you will have to do whatever it takes to survive in Canada. This is how people get stuck in Canada.
@Parag, do you find it hypocritical that pale Canadians want to impose their nudity on everyone citing it as “don’t judge my lifestyle or how I look in appearance”, but immigrants are negatively judged on how they look and their skin colour?…Pale Canadians have low birth rates because they are followers and promoters of LGBTQ and feminism which are considered anti-life and detrimental to society.
Personally, I do not have an opinion. Values are determined democratically. This inner fighting will not help anyone. Both immigrants and natives need to compromise to some extent for the overall benefit of society. One thing is sure, Canada will be ethnically diverse in future and acceptance is the key to its survival.
If you’re not guaranteed a job offer which pays at least $80,000 per annum, DON’T MOVE TO CANADA.
Trust me, the last thing you want for your family is to leave the comfort of your middle class lifestyle in India to become almost homeless in Toronto, Ontario, Canada where at least 95% of immigrants are trapped from leaving because they are out of their life savings!
I’m noticing that as long as you are middle and upper class in India, you live relatively well; even the healthcare in India is improving that Canadians themselves are flocking to India for 21st century healthcare like fertility treatments and cancer treatment.
Also moving to Canada does not guarantee a better life for your family…..50-50% chance that the Social Worker that your wife will meet will be encourage to divorce you, and then you will have to pay child support and alimony and you cannot flee the country at that time because you will have to surrender your passport as a lien to the alimony debt.
21st century Canada is infested with decadent Caucasian Canadian political agendas such as LGBT, white-only feminism and transgender rights, so if you’re uncomfortable with a transgender or lesbian teacher stripping nude in front of minor students at school in Toronto, then Canadians will consider you an “intolerant homophobe” and they will attack your cultural identity while claiming that they are not racist.
I don’t know about your case entirely, but the Western 1st world, not only Canada are slowly declining into decadent rot, while the Eastern Oriental and Asian world are slowly rising such as China, India &Russia.
Why would you, a prospective immigrant to Canada, sell out all of your assets in your home country, including your family home, so that you can have the honour of renting a slumlord apartment in a crime-ridden part of Toronto? Are you crazy?
I agree personally I new a lot of engineers dentists lawyers architects to mention some of them working as a little men survival jobs. Is hard and Canada is all propaganda time that you think you going to get something but nothing happens so free advice if in 1 years you don’t get it is going to be painful get it later. More time more pain
It’s like chasing a carrot on a stick getting nowhere in life.
But it’s ironic that when refugees are settled to Canada, the local Canadians raise a stink….Those Canadians only want educated immigrants for their life savings, along with a hidden agenda to weaken foreign countries, because if the educated classes are leaving their home countries, it is a loss for that country because that doctor will be condemned to cleaning toilets at the TTC washrooms (if they manage to even get that job) for the rest of life.
This is unlike the States where immigrants can only arrive from work on a visa, and then they can return to their home country richer than before. In Canada, they falsely promise you with a career in your field, but when you arrive from Toronto, you learn that you cannot even find unpaid volunteer positions within six months of arriving in Canada.
The lies perpetuated by the Canadian immigration industry to falsely lure immigrants to Canada should be condemned to the fullest extent!
Racist Canadians are now adopting the 1900s ‘white nationalism’ agenda, which is perversely in alliance with white Caucasian Canadian feminist rights agenda.
One of the reasons why that white nationalist from Quebec City murdered several men in that Mosque was because his movement feared immigrant men, mainly Muslims, harassing and committing crimes against their white Caucasian women.
Another man named Dylan Roof in the States murdered several Black people in a church venting similar views a year before.
Racism in Canada is becoming very dangerous for an immigrant, especially if you’re a brown or black man. My advice is that you avoid these Caucasian women when they arrange their topless and pro-nudist rallies (usually in major cities like Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal and several middle sized cities across Canada like Calgary and Edmonton).
One false accusation from a fully naked Caucasian woman can mean trouble if you’re brown or black, because the racist white nationalists can victimize you for the white Caucasian woman’s ‘honor’. It’s dangerous in Canada for an immigrant. Racial tensions are high.
No lie detected Canadian Experience. Coming from a visible minority born and bred in Canada you are very correct.
Even if you’re born and raised in Canada, it only lessens this outrageous racism in Canada by 50%.
I shudder to think how immigrant students will fit in at these Canadian high schools.
One female school principal from Markham, Ontario posted violent calls on social media to attack Muslim women for what they wear, and she gets paid leave and support from the “Alt-Right”.
Now, I already posted here before, it doesn’t matter if the woman is the strictest Hindu who avoids all meat and meat by-products (100% vegetarian), if she is wearing a sari, the racist Canadians will accuse her of being a Muslim.
Canada is becoming a very messed up form of Ku Klux Clan racism veiled under a cause of “women’s rights”, but no one cares if immigrant women can’t find jobs, or how they are treated as criminals when they apply for welfare.
No, in Canada, it’s all about how that upper class white woman in her ivory tower at Bay Street “feels” discriminated if she can’t have her “rights” to conduct morally unacceptable behaviour, such as walking naked in public or engaging in sex with minors for “sexual education”.
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HI, I am a single, female working as Food Engineer in India. I have been planning to gain PR visa and go to Canada for a few years to work.
Should i go for it. And if i do should i apply for PR myself or through an agency.
Hi Shemani, please ensure that the job agencies are registered with the government of Canada, because I’ve heard that shady criminal elements lure innocent women to Canada for the propective of working, but when the immigrant women arrive, they are forced into prostitution against their will.
Please do your resarch on job agencies in Canada. They have to be registered in the province they are offering services. Employment Ontario is a safe organization.
Do not visit any unknown place for a job, unless it is registered as an employment agency. The Canadian white people will not care if you are held captive by a white pimp who lured innocent women under the promise of job. Canada is dangerous in that sense.
Canada is a white feminist prison state. You’ll learn about the dictatorship when living in Toronto. Everything in Canada is revolved around the petty tyranny of the white woman.
Don’t believe me? Did Native Aborigines enforce and advocate for harsh laws against men such as Family Act, overpolicing of racial men, false accusations?
Jian Ghomeshi had his name dragged through the mud because of false accusations from white women that he was mingling around with. He should have learned that a white Canadian woman can literally poison an entire community of immigrants, but she will be viewed as a victim, but any immigrant man who is not committing any crime or infraction is automatically a potential criminal.
Fug this white supremacist country! They treat us immigrants like garbage unless you follow their Westernized degenerate lifestyles!
I was sued by a white Canadian pale woman because she falsely accused me of leering at her short skirt that she attended to work on several occasions. It’s considered a grave moral infraction to even question a white Canadian woman on her choice of dress at a Licensed Private school in Toronto.
Canadians have no ounce of decency or social order, but they want to impose their degenerate values onto immigrants. I was lectured by the Judge that Canadians value equality rights for women, so when I argued that the pale feminist woman was violating the dress code for tutors and teachers, I was immediately yelled at by the Judge and a few of those who attended the hearing in Toronto.
TOO BAD FOR CANADA is that I closed down the business operations of the private school, wired all of my Capital from TD Bank to a more respectable country.
Canada can keep their pale whites to prance around immodestly in a school setting and office. I for one, will not invest a cent any more in Canada!
Hi. Please stop spamming your nonsense here. there is nothing wrong with anything she wears as long as its office wear. the etiquette matter more in other countries, not in north America. everything is about money and lifestyle enjoyment. i prefer to hang with them. its their country and their lifestyle. learn to respect it. we have very strong human rights here. you are no one to say LGBT is wrong even if it has all the wrong reasons in the world. we believe in freedom…thank you very much
Actually, you are wrong here. What part of private school you did not understand? These are not public tax payer fund supported schools where a women can wear whatever she wants. There is a reason why people send their children to private schools, and that is to teach certain values. I am not necessarily agreeing with Elton because the school could fire the woman for breaking dress code. However, what you say is not correct either. Private schools use private money and they can have their own policies. If you do not like their policies then work for public schools. However, you cannot dictate what private schools can and cannot do. These schools are free to set whatever policies they want. It is called freedom. What you are suggesting is really oppression where private schools should follow some dictatorial policies under false disguise of freedom.
@ Parag: If the private school fired the woman, they could be sued for 1st world problems like “sexism”, eve though it is immoral for anyone to showcase indecency around young children.
Here is one example. A Canadian woman complains that she is being oppressed because parents and their families at East Side Mario’s were concerned that her breasts were displaying over her uniform, because she wasn’t wearing a bra:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/east-side-mario-s-bra-dress-code-work-1.4277827
In other words, if a white Caucasian female Canadian wants to choose to be nude around children, no employer can fire her, no police department can press charges, nor can the Crown Attorney request a guilty verdict, because in Canada, that would be considered “discrimination against women”, but white male employers mistreating female immigrants at the workplace for exploitation is considered “Canadian experience”.
I have to disagree. If a school has a policy about dress code then a woman can be fired for dress code violation. Let her sue the school, the lawsuit cannot stand. Policies are democratically decided by school committees and everyone working for school must abide with them. Employees contracts would need employee signature upon joining. If Canada is country of laws then courts need to honor property laws and private ownership. As I said before, there is a reason why people send their kids to private schools. If you start taking the rights of private schools then government is oppressive, and it needs to be overthrown. What is wrong is some person in school telling others what to wear. When that happens, it is discrimination. If dress code violation happens due to school policy determined democratically before even employee is hired the it is certainly not discrimination. More so if employee is required to sign a document upon hiring that they shall abide by the school policy as their employment condition.
Canada doesn’t follow Civil Code (except for Quebec), nor does not protect property rights as stringent as the United States….I guess that you’re new to Canada, so let me share some news articles related to how Caucasian Canadian women can and will sue any private owner for discrimination if she is not allowed to be naked around minors:
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-july-24-2017-1.4216304/ontario-woman-fights-for-right-to-swim-topless-1.4218620
Ironically, even though Caucasian Canadians “fought for their right” to go naked in front of minor children, they allege that they are victims of ‘harassment’ and ‘rape culture’ which usually bash on immigrant men:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/women-can-go-topless-in-ontario-but-they-don-t-want-to-fearing-harassment-1.3171257
Ironically and ironically squared to the highest integer, local Canadian police, especially in Toronto and York Region are known to force non-consensual intercourse against non-white Canadian women who work in the escort trade. In other words, the white Canadian agents of the system literally force an immigrant woman against her will, because of her profession.
When you begin to learn more about Canada and its ironies, you will realize that Canada has no rule of law for the Caucasian Canadians, while they place a great burden on immigrants to follow their onerous rules. Like for example, that case above regarding that Caucasian Canadian woman who sued that hotel and the City of Cornwall because their policies (which were democratically voted) forbid her to pose naked in venues where underage children are present?
SO what makes you think that the woman wouldn’t also sue hundreds of private schools across Canada so that she can enforce her ‘rights’ be naked in front of your child or baby?
That’s Canada for you!
The problem is that white Caucasian Canadians do not respect immigrants. They are racist and hypocritical.
On one hand, as I was debating with Parang on this thread, Caucasian Canadians expect us to respect their weird culture of posing naked around underage children, while at the same time vilifying immigrant men of perpetuating ‘harassment & ‘rape culture’ against women.
I would further add, that in Canada, while the Caucasian women are fighting for their ‘rights’ to go in the full nudity around underage children, in Quebec, a woman who is dressed in a sari, niqab or orthodox Christian dress can be forbidden to enter a government building such as a courthouse.
Even the former Prime Minister Stephen Harper proposed laws to persecute women who wore a niqab, citing the reason as it is a ‘security issue’, though Canada did not face the full brunt of Middle Eastern conflict like the USA where one would expect such a discriminatory law.
And as much as there is in-fighting in India between Hindus and Muslims, every racist Caucasian Canadian views anyone with a brown complexion as a Muslim, even if it is a Hindu woman wearing a Sari, Caucasian pale Canadians will assume that she is a Muslim because of the color of her skin.
Do not respect Caucasian Canadians because if they don’t respect immigrants, why should we respect them if they are engaged in discrimination?
Well I am an Indian-American. However, I must say that I do not fully agree with you. Many of examples you are mentioning happen on public property. Even with the waitress example you gave clearly states that waitress asked for restaurant policy and there was none. I am never a great fan of Canada, but I think discussion needs to be presented in fair manner. Some of these complains could be legit. To some extent, I agree with you as I always think that Canadians are somewhat bigoted.
Canada is less social than the States, and their political system is all about white women.
That’s why when you read a Canadian newspaper, it’s always about some white woman complaining that she can’t be naked around someone’s young child on public or private property.
In the States, a similar movement called NAMBLA advocates for similar policies, except that they are seen as scum who shouldn’t be allowed to be naked in front of someone’s child.
When you read more about Canada, you will understand where I’m coming from. Canadian white Caucasian women are the female version of NAMBLA when they advocate for nudity with children.
You have to balance the ‘rights’ of others and the public. America is very good at balancing that unlike Canada where if a Caucasian Canadian woman wants to be naked in front of your child, she can, and she will use the tyranny of the state institutions to effect her proposal in her favour.
Again Sara- you are either working for the Canadian government or are having HUBRIS COMPLEX. You are also ‘spamming’, in that sense.
I also agree that immigrants should try to integrate.
Sara, My family and I are from ‘western backgrounds’. English is our first language. We have British, U.S.A., {original country} AND Canadian qualifications (and also experiences) – so why are we not getting the high-paid work/jobs? Just two weeks ago a company called BigMacSteel (in south-western Ontario) cancelled my order after the the VP discovered that I was ‘not white’ – untl that everything went well…. I am suing!
I have done business in many countries, including the USA, EUROPE, AFRICA and ASIA. If not for my income from these countres since I came to Canada my wife and I also, probably, would have had to wash the ‘white mans toilet’ or ‘the white kids backside’. CANADA IS THE WORST COUNTRY FOR SMALL-BUSINESS/ENTRPRENEURS. The Canadian governments (not the plural) in fact do everything in their power to kill small/independent businsesses – Montessori, Uber/Taxi, Restaurants, IT/Tech are good examples – to start with. EVERYTHING IS CONTROLLED!
If you are NOT working for the government read ‘Controlling Interests’ and ‘Who owns Canada now’ by Diane Francis. The 2nd book is not very honest (my opinion) but ‘read inbetween the lines’ and you will see that about 75 families OWN AND CONTROL everything in Canada!
Also, why is Ontario paying the USA to buy our excess energy? The answer – the bank accounts in the USA that get the money belong to Canadians OR the we are paying the USA a FINE for using Lake Ontario to cool the nuclear plant.
See, how much I know?!
Sara, also google ‘Secret canada bank bailout’, ‘Canadian banks and ENRON’ and ‘Canada is bankrupt’.
If you are, infact, working for the government then you know all this already – if not you know now.
I’m surprised that the Canadian government didn’t shut down this blog and thread like NotCanada.
Insightful comments so far. I am interested in relocating to Canada with family (spouse and 2 kids) through express entry application. I like the Canadian culture and lifestyle. But I’m a bit taken back because of the hard life described. Does that mean after evaluation of my foreign certificates,applying through the skill list, there is probabilty of not continuing my career? Please I need someone to advise me. Thanks.
You will have a very difficult time having your foreign credentials recognized in Canada, even if you have American work experience….Canada’s work culture is very cliquish, and with this wave of Caucasian ‘gender rights’ in Canada, if you’re from certain countries or are not white, employers automatically assume negative stereotypes of you, thus would be reluctant to hire you, unless of course, it is to serve coffee at Tim Horton’s or sweep floors on the sidewalk for min. wage.
Don’t let any Canadian fool you! You will only be like a donkey chasing a carrot on a stick if you decide to waste your savings on redundant courses in order for the hope to be employed in your field in Canada….I know immigrant doctors who spent years back in Canadian medical school, but for years after graduating with an MD, they cannot qualify for Residency in a hospital or clinic to earn work experience for their doctor’s license, so they wasted 3 or 4 years in Canadian medical school, because if you do not have residency experience in a medical clinic, you cannot become a licensed doctor in Canada.
enough with your misogyny and sexism. women in canada have a right to dress as they please. nudity is also not sexual. it’s the male gaze that makes a woman’s natural body sexual. get over it. you can’t change our laws.
My point exactly. I am not sure why would immigrants want to change Canadian culture? You immigrate to adopt a country and its culture and not change it. Part of the problem is immigrants themselves. Frankly, as a tourist, most of my interactions in Canada happen with immigrants. While some are very nice, I am increasing finding envious and frustrated immigrants. Canada is becoming a bad country, and everyone is responsible for it. What I think is that Canadian housing bubble and social programs are responsible for it. The Canadian government is taking anyone they can by lying or whatever as long as they bring money with them. The immigrants are frustrated, they resort to their culture and hate Canadian culture. Canadians fight the immigrants to protect their culture. This envy is getting out of control.
@Parag: In Canada, under their Criminal Code statute, indecent exposure is a criminal offense….
However, because Canada as usually adopts and perverts (no pun intended) Common Law to suit their agenda, it was one Appeal or Supreme court ruling which decriminalized indecent exposure as long as it is a form of “protest” or “freedom of expression”….I’m not a lawyer able to cite the case law, but it was I think in 1996, when a white university-aged female was charged with indecent exposure for showing her breasts in view of underaged children, but then her conviction was overturned, which led to decriminalization of public nudity in Canada.
I also think that immigrants are frustrated because they were lied to when they were directly or indirectly told that they can retain their culture in Canada, only to later realize that if they wear a sari, they are treated like how Muslims were treated in NYC days after September 11, 2001, or if they wear a turban like Canadian born lawyer and Leader of the NDP Leadership Jagmeet Singh, a white Caucasian Canadian woman accused him of being a Muslim refugee. This is in spite that Jagmeet Singh was born in Scarborough, raised in the most Canadian Maritime part of Canada, and is an educated lawyer to boot…How Canadian can one not get?
The point is that while Emily advocates for censorship, it’s her political cronies who insist that when they indecently expose their nudity around young children, they insist that their nudity isn’t sexual in context, but if they feel that a refugee was looking at them, they will be the first to complain of sexual harassment, or if the person is wearing a turban or sari, they will automatically assume that the person is a Muslim refugee.
In other words, why shouldn’t immigrants complain that people like Emily support persons of questionable character posing nude around young children, yet at the same time those immigrants, even Canadian born lawyers like Jagmeet Singh, are treated as refugees based on their cultural attire?
One thing that is not discussed is how fast Canadian demographics are changing. I always have this sense that there is great tension in Canada. Part of this may be a combination of illegal immigration and influx of refugees. I found this youtube video that provides some background on how Canada is facing sudden change in its demographics. I am not sure if people can see this video in Canada as the Canadian government is seriously in censorship as well. An average Canadian cannot distinguish between an illegal. refugee and legal immigrant. As a result, legal immigrants may face even greater discrimination. It is probably best to stay away from Canada because this added burden will raise taxes even more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5JfEKvnmdk
Public nudity is considered OBSCENE, IMMORAL and unsuitable for children….What I don’t get with you white Canadians is that you can yell all you want that your nakedness is not sexualized when you show it off to little children at an elementary school, swimming pool or at those yearly “protests” in downtown Toronto, but as soon as you see males over 16 or immigrant men, you accuse those men of sexual objectification of your obscenity.
This is why one of the reasons I don’t like Canada is because of the hypocrisy. If I was a 4-year-old boy who supports LGBT rights, you’d think that’s it’s fine to show your naked body to me, but if I was an immigrant adult male, you’d be the first to cover your cleavage or run to the other side of the street to avoid me because you think that every man is out to commit a crime.
This pro-nudity agenda from downtown Toronto appears to be a child grooming agenda to molest children. I wonder if Emily or Sara will start complaining that my opinion is anti-Canadian.
I think Tia should consider one of you going first ( check it out for a year or 2 , settle down ) and then the rest of the family should move to Canada . Do think about it .
Regards
Mr Raj
I think i agree with K Last comment made by the person, When you immigrate, you should be ready for the hard time, it may goes out of the expectation but you’ve to find way out of it because you’re an IMMIGRANT. I understand the write went through poor situation and i assume they were living a ROYAL life in UAE. Today they’re complaining because they’re in CANADA, i observed people who look for lot of ESTEEM needs in CANADA as immigrants are most disappointed. There is no esteem jobs available when you move in.
I am looking to immigrant to CANADA. My one of the neighbor immigrate there and they all seems HAPPY! Few would have problem but according to my friend’s opinion those who come here with High expectation are most disappointed one and writer seems one of them
How can you be certain if they’re 100% happy? Facebook and Instagram selfies don’t count.
Unless your friends were starving poor and persecuted in their home countries, of course they will find solace in Canada as long as they do not question the status quo like an American patriot.
Many immigrants who arrive to Canada are above middle class in their home countries, so they do not expect to be serving coffee at Tim Horton’s as if they were 16-year-old high school students only working because to earn income to purchase the latest I phone for the next school semester.
I’ve been leaving in Canada and just recently moved to Dubai and it’s absolutely a different experience. People who live in Dubai their whole life will NEVER be able to move to a country like Canada where everything is simple – noone cares what bag you have and what car you drive. People have to go and get their groceries by themselves and take a metro – not a taxi.
Yes, they do require education & skills for jobs that shouldn’t but this what makes EVERYONE amazing at their jobs – not like in Dubai when you order a green tea, they bring you back because they don’t pay attention, don’t listen and don’t care. And I DON”T BLAME them – cuz they get paid NOTHING.
In Canada if you are a waitress you make decent money to take care of you and your family if needed – no one judges you.
In Dubai, people are materialistic and horrific. The government doesn’t care about people living and whats happening to labour workers who BUILD cities for them when its 50 degrees outside.
So don’t jump judging Canada when you are sitting on your ass doing nothing to change your situation.
I agree with you Daria… we shouldn’t compare Dubai to Canada, it’s totally a different level .
yes Daria. you are 100% right. the life in dubai is an illusion. even if they pay me big dollars, i will not go there. all these countries lack human right which is the most important thing.
White pales think that exposing their private parts in front of toddlers at their obscene festivities is a “human right”. Canada is a degenerate country with no morals and values!
according to you elton. no one cares what you think. leave your morals in your country
I will tell you who I find more racist than Canadians…. It is immigrants to Canada. Canada was a different country in 1990s. It seems that most immigrants in Canada are frustrated. When I visit Canada, people think I am an immigrant to Canada. Most of these people are immigrants themselves and are quick to jump to conclusions. These guys treat me like shit. I have waitress showing me the “tip” place and asking me to fill that section. I had some people deduct a few “extra” dollars out of my credit card thinking that I am a fool to notice. I pretend not to notice because I only visit Canada for a few days, but truth be told, these hating immigrants are also making Canada a bad place to live.
Using your logic, Mugabe shouldn’t have been penalized by the Queen of England when he kicked those white farmers out of Zimbabwe because those white farmers were creating monopoly on agriculture in Zimbabwe when the rest of people, mostly Black and of African DNA, were eating dirt cookies during the hyperinflation of 2008.
Why is it that every white middle income Canadian girl always trying to subvert foreign nations if they don’t accept her belief systems?
Meanwhile, you, a white Canadian, threatens to censor an anonymous commenter for complaining and ranting about the Canadian system, which white Canadian girls are trying to impose in countries overseas?
Elite millionaire Finance Minister Bill Morneau has a 17-year-old daughter who travels frequently to Africa to promote radical feminism when millions of African boys are dying because of Western-backed militia groups aimed to destabilize nations like Nigeria.
SO before advocating for censorship, look into the mirror and see what white girls from Canada are subverting African nations.
These immoral white Canadians are travelling to countries in Africa & Asia to impose their belief systems!!!! Unfortunate though, it’s only white American girls who get caught subverting foreign nations like Zimbabwe because Canadians use a sneaky way to coerce belief systems in foreign nations.
The only time Canada was exposed as a moral crusader was when “Conservative” homosexual Minister John Baird threatened to cut foreign aid and impose sanctions on Uganda for rejecting the Canadian homosexual platform.
Hi Sara,my name is rachel ,i want to relocate to canada with my family,i want to apply through a PNP,which city is the best and how do i apply???
Hi Rachel. it really depends. Job-wise, Toronto is the best. lifestyle-wise, Vancouver is the best. community-wise, every province is different.
the straight way is by skill points system.
Dubai is a foreign entity and even though you consider feminism and homosexuality as benchmarks for human rights, thousands of Canadian and American corporations call Dubai their home.
In Canada, your fellow Canadian settler people genocide the Native Aboriginals. Dubai never forced any minority group into genocide.
This is the writer’s point of view. Being an immigrant in Canada myself, I would have to agree with all that is written in this article. The thing is when you decide to leave your countries, you have to understand that it won’t be the same here. So forget your pride, forget your self-esteem. Be prepared to do toilet cleaning, the low paying jobs and all the stuff that comes with it. There will be racist people here and there but then the good ones will always outnumber the bad. Believe me on this one. There are assholes here but tell me a place where there isn’t one. So yeah when you start complaining about your life in Canada, think of the reasons why you left your country in the first place. If that isn’t enough then you can always go back. Canada isn’t for the proud. It is for the hardworking. There’s lots of hard work here and humility doesn’t hurt too.
Thousands of educated immigrants were falsely lured into Canada under the promise of career advancement. I do not think that it’s fair to blame immigrants when they are the victims of the propaganda scam in Canada.
Some facts about canada
Technically sound: a person should be technically sound if wish to get a good job here. White collar jobs are paid less.
Degrees not recognised. The degrees as well as the experience are not recognised here. Only canadian experience is given preference.
Since all the firms pay their employees at per hour rate, the shifts are made in such a way that when their services are required the employees are called to report.
Infact the canadian government should ask for their countrys degree along with IELTS scoresheet while accepting files. This way the people will not be made fool.
You guys should try Nigeria. It’s best place to live and do business.
r u serious maurice??
isn’t a bad place to live with family?
It’s called sarcasm sami !!
Yes, Nigeria is a nice place, cheap accommodation,transport and general living cost…
For raising kids,it’s good,but you must have cultured your kids well. Because it’s a free country,no restriction to any amount of fun
It’s a nice place until those pesky social interest groups from Canada and USA are coercing Uganda, Nigeria, Zimbabwe, Kenya and Cameroon to allow an influx of obscenity into their nations. For every white Canadian female travelling in Africa, she is trying to subvert an African nation. Canada has low birth rates and an alienated society because of white Canadian culture which is supportive of obsencity, feminism, immorality and homosexuality.
Homosexuals in Canada can’t create families, and they are very stringent drug addicts who spend over $5,000 a week on hard drugs because homosexuality causes illness in the minds of homosexuals who need those hard drugs to alieviate their mental and physical pain, especially pain from their back part when they engage in very dirty sexual acts.
What way do you want to migrate to Canada
If you come here illegally, Canada Government will consider you as Refugee
1. You will get help aid from Canada Government.
2. Easy to get a job because peoples will show their sympathy to you.
3. You will receive financial helping assistance from Canada Government up to 12 months to support your family.
4. Peoples will hug you, express their kind hearth to you and so many NGO help Refugees.
5. Free public transit service.
6. Very easy to get permanent Resident or citizenship.
And you skill labour, if you come here legally, leave you back home country, leave you relatives to strengthening this country economically, technically and all other way by using you skill then
1. You will not get help aid from Canada Government.
2. Very hard to get a job, if you get also very hard to work. Nobody will show you good express to you.
3. You will not receive any kind of help from Canada Government to support you family.
4. Peoples will always try to feel you that you come here to take their jobs. Do not expect any kind of help other because they are not going to do it. May be you can expect some troubles.
5. All you expenses you are responsible.
6. Hard to get permanent Resident or citizenship
Hey Dave,
Please share your thoughts on refugee.
I am an Indian and have a valid visit visa.
Thanks,
Soorya
Best quality of life……… reading all the comments seems lots of people are not agree with you Sara !!
Same experience we had. It’s blood-sucking country. We are now back in India but the struggle is not over yet. We have a house in Canada and the tenant is not paying rent, and we are running here and there to get rent and waiting for the tenant to vacate the house. Because the tenant has more rights in Canada. It’s a shit country. My husband is suffering from heart problem now because of the stress, he was a healthy man.
its not a shit country. its the best place on earth. we have rights that supersede others and by far the best quality of life. Its socialism in action. Canada outperforms every country because of quality of life, not for the need to compete with others. it doesn’t need to be like any other country on earth. It’s doing just fine the way it is.
Shut up!
Yeah sure. It is a shit country that tries to fabricate an image that it is not. You are just being assisting in that scheme. I would rather move to hell, at least it is warm.
look at your English….being assisting. i suggest you learn english in canada. some people love cold. if you love heat go somewhere else. no one told you to be here.
And I suggest that you learn how to punctuate.
Canada is an isolated, freezing and boring country. I’m sure it suits you well enough!
Sara, Look up the meaning of the word HUBRIS. Many professors/scholars have done many studies and proved that Canadians (including new commers) have a HUBRIS COMPLEX. You do too. If you are going to criticize English then ‘some people love cold’ and ‘if you love heat’ is BAD GAMMAR! 🙂
{can you take the heat, Sara? – :)}
So, you are ether suffering from a ‘hubris complex’ or working for the Canadian government’s propaganda team – yes, the government if Canada DOES EMPLY a PROPAGANDA team to mak ecomments, write articles, etc. It is indeed DIABOLICAL
Maybe that can explain why Canada depends on the USA to purchase tare exports.80% of exports go to the USA. Canada is nothing but a Banana Republic with only a white feminist police prison state.
Criminals have more rights than law-abiding immigrants in Canada.
A Canadian person only gets at maximum 6 months to 1 year prison for raping their 5-year-old student, but if you’re an unemployed Black man falsely accused of sexual harassment by a white Canadian woman at the mall, the Black man gets at least 18 months to 23 months in maximum security prison.
There is another important factor to mention about Canada. The salaries are generally lower here compared to the expenses. If you need a decent life in Canada, then both man and woman have to work otherwise it will be tough to live. But in India or South Africa if you are working professional then one person in the family – either the husband or the wife – should be good enough to live a comfortable life. Of course, if both are working in India it’s better in terms of income. But in Canada for working class people, it is must for both husband and wife to work to live a decent/okay life.
Yes, you are very right, Rahul. It is very tough for working class people to live a decent life in Canada if both husband and wife are not working because expenses are very high. But in India, you can live a decent life with one person’s salary.
well, dont know nothin until you exprience it, some of my friends are happy there and staying like surviving as they call it, and few of them saying that they are getting bored coz they miss dubai to be frank. sooit all depends on luck, yes i would suggest before migrating towards canada let the bread earner spend some time and see how things work and if not, can come back to dubai and these times iw ould say spend of that 1 or 2 months of ur holidays there. and see how it works.
Hi,
We are happily settled in UAE with 2 kids (below 4 years) . We have Canadian PR since 2015 and have been delaying our move due to above problems.Now we have a job offer (85k taxable) . Will it be a wise decision now to shift? We will not be moving for savings or money. Target is Canadian Passport for kids better future. We just need a normal comfortable lifestyle.If we like it, we will stay else we may return to UAE. Expert please advice.
TIA
Hello Tuls, yes i think its good if you move. you got a great offer of 85K. normally no one gets it here. 85K is a high end job. your kids are young. they need a parent beside them at this stage. you will be able to adjust in very easily. it is much better with Canadian passport. UAE is not great for settling just good for making money. if you delay it, you will never get this opportunity again and things will become harder for you as younger generation will be taking these jobs very eagerly.
Hi Tuls,
What is 85K? Monthly or Yearly? Which currency? Canadian, Indian or US….What does WE mean? You and your wife both have offer which totals to 85K? Where is the offer from? Do not simply plunge….. While UAE is a good place to make money…India will be the best please to spend it …..dont waste hard earned money dreaming big things
“Target is Canadian Passport for kids better future.”
Why are you sacrificing a relatively high income lifestyle in the UAE for Canada, knowing that you will struggle to even find NON-PAID VOLUNTEER WORK for “CANADIAN EXPERIENCE”?
You might think it’s altruistic to sacrifice everything you earned in the UAE so that your children will “have a better life in Canada”, but all it takes is for one spiteful, drug addict & alcoholic Canadian social worker/school teacher/ school administrator to destroy your hopes and dreams, along with your wife divorcing you for no reason other than Canadian propaganda, and your children to hate you because their female teacher spreading lies to their students.
Canada is not like the UAE where it is centered around wealth and making money. Canada has a very weird form of gender politics, and in school they focus more on teaching 6-year-olds how to perform anal sex, and how to become gay and transgender (even though these same activists will pro port that a 17-year-old female cannot have feelings for the opposite gender, ironic that they force 6-year-olds to become gay and transgender).
Working in call centre and as factory worker is not low respect job..every job is important to run this world..i spent many yrs in call centres. Its very cool job here in india.
She was talking about a person from Teaching Profession having to do Call Centre Job….which might not be comfortable to her not to you. And it is cool in india because you can run back home anytime, not when being in places like Canada
It’s “cool job” in India probably because the salary pays the bills.
You can’t live on $12.50 an hour in Toronto doing call centre jobs because buying groceries for one person alone in Toronto is at least $400 a month, and it’s even higher, even triple that cost if you live further up north in Canada.
Also, you will end up competing to rent slumlord rentals in Toronto, at least $1,100 a month for a Bachelor apartment with no bedroom, and rents increase at least 3% a year because of loopholes in the City code.
Don’t forget that $150 monthly transit pass which increases by over 5% a year even though oil prices are falling since 2015, but despite Canada being an oil exporter, gasoline prices for cars are 4 times expensive than in the USA.
You will have to earn at least $1,600 a month in order to barely survive in the Toronto area.
There’s no where like home, Sharma. You understand the language, the culture, the people, and important of all, you know your way around. So, going back home was the absolute choice, not Canada.
What culture you are talking dear? 28% GST rubbish taxes. Discrimination of Hindu Muslims. Importance of cows than a human being. Baba’s and their bhakts gundagardi. What is the attraction to go back home. One day one can be killed by mob while eating mutton at his home. India is not anymore to live in.
If anybody has any doubts about how CORRUPT Canada is, google ‘Phoenix payroll Canada’. They are all lying and cheating the public… they are all in it! They are paying THEMSELVES with OUR MONEY!
Why not Dale? let me tell you why. our countries suck for these jobs. even toilet cleaning in canada is far better than being a doctor in Asia. No respect and no money
well I disagree. How could u say that cleaning toilets in Canada is better than being a doc in Asia.
You can not say that being doc in India won’t give you the respect. That’s the bullshit..
Indian respect the doc’s as god, and let me say that it not all about money. If you are cleaning toilet then it’s not good life for you.
Exactly, its not all about the money. its about lifestyle. canada is far better than india in that respect. they dont need to join any competition and show themselves off. they have enough resource to sustain themselves for 500 years peacefully.
So you would rather clean toilets for white people rather than become a doctor in Asia, where white people are flocking to Asia in droves for medical care (and to some extent sex tourism in the Philippines and Thailand)?
Canada has more than enough land to comfortably house its 36 million people, but the Queen of England owns at least 90% of Crown land, while the few wealthy oligarchs in Canada own certain acres of land which if off limits to people.
Canada has enough land, but it costs at least $1,800,000 to purchase an 80-year-old plywood shack of a ‘house’ in Toronto.
It costs at least $300,000 for a 1-bedroom condo in the middle of the sky, and you have to pay property tax and maintenance fees costing at least another $30,000 a year to live in that condo.
Canada doesn’t share it’s wealth properly so that’s why doctors from India, Thailand, Vietnam and other Asian countries are cleaning toilets unwillingly because they are TRAPPED.
Are you brainwashed by Canadian propaganda? Toilet cleaning can’t even pay for your lunch if you work an hour wage….India may look like an overpopulated slum, but it is far better in terms of opportunities in IT and other industries, and with a way lower cost of living.
Canada is a shithole that only pale women find it a paradise because they can falsely accuse immigrants of rape and cause police to harass entire immigrant communities.
Well said! EVERYTHING IS PROPAGANDA! I have done my research CANADA IS THE MOST CORRUPT, RACIST and POOR country on the planet!
I agree with the writer. Canada is hard place for immigrants. They brought us as skill workers with bachelors, masters and languages to perform unskilled jobs. Canadians do not recognize experience outside Canada. Racism is high.
STAY AWAY
Everyone out there who is reading this.. STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!
It is not just that the jobs that are bad for immigrants. It is hard to get any, and Canada is very expensive. Even if you get a job the low paid with trouble, you might save 200 per month because you have to pay high tax on income. If you get 20,000 per year, you have to pay around 30% as tax, so plus the rent living, food and transportation if you save utility 2000 per years is much and to get your own house cost you minimum 200,000 so maybe in 20 years you will stop renting, the only possibility is if you came with many members and all save more money but if all get a job and even son the tax will take of all
yes absolutely right actually they encourage us to come here but doesnt acknowledge our professions. Even if we upgrade and do bridging programs still we end up jobless
They only want your money and tuition. The Canadian Job Market is cliquish and those who know each other in social circles obtain the better jobs. I’ve heard that it’s terrible in Canada, especially in Toronto that people are competing for UNPAID volunteer work!
Meanwhile, the 23-year-old Caucasian female just graduated from medical school and will become a qualified medical doctor by age 25! Canadian experience!!!!
America is becoming cronyism like Canada. One of the largest credit score companies hired a Music Major as their Chief Intelligence officer for Equifax….That’s like hiring a plumber to conduct brain surgery:
money.cnn.com/2017/09/15/news/equifax-top-executives-retiring/index.html
It’s easy for a white Canadian or American to ‘retire’ for incompetence.
Well, I have read all the comments and found a conclusion that Canada is not a good country for immigration. There is no value of education or degree obtained other countries, most of the people who immigrate are doing odd jobs, to get a better job one should go for a new diploma or degree from Canadian institute but till then it is not sure that one could find a better job etc. etc. So my question is why people are moving to Canada knowing all the things, why they are saying they are okay in Canada. Actually, me personally along with my two other friends and all three are doing Government job in Bangladesh deeply thinking to migrate to Canada. But after reading these comments I am totally disappointed. I am now in a huge confusion whether it would be wise decision for me to migrate to Canada or not. I am now 37+. Can anyone suggest me honestly?
Yes, Parvez, it baffles my how POOR Canada is every day I do business in Canada… it really is one of the poorest countries in the world… everything is a lie!
Parvez, in all honesty – I have worked and lived in many countries and my friends, business partners, etc – immigration is for two types of people – RICH people and POOR (SLAVES) people. It is NOT for the middle class. Everybody lies, only the RICH class benefit from it. My advice to all is stay in your home-countries and love your own people. If you are willing to wash toilets in another country, why not do it in your country for your own people? At least then you are serving your own.
IMMIGRATION IS NOT FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS! It is ONLY FOR the RICH and POOR!
37+ is too high. you will not get government jobs here. be ready for a lower job. But it will be a great life for your kids with canadian passport. Exactly my story. i am bangladeshi canadian
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No doubt canadian life style is good but in short i would like to say that canada is the country which takes away the happiness and charm of my life.Life here is hell. u have to just work work and work .no enjoyment is there.Now i can not return to my country but my suggestion is that never ever come to canada.A persons talent is never valued here.
Now,after reading all the comments I’m biting my nails whether to study in Canada or not.I will give you my complete profile any one of you please advice me I say PLEASE.
Completed my graduation in the year 2016 from Electrical and electronics engineering I just got an aggregate of 64 percent with 7 backlogs.I don’t know anything about my subject.So,I came to know that MBA is easy a bit for me, joined in a so called college and cleared my 1st semester days back.in the mean while, wrote ielts secured just 6.0 applied to colleges for post graduation diploma in Electrical and electronics related field for visa purpose and want to transfer to business related course.Also retaken my ielts this time I reasonably sure that I will get 6.5 so that I can get a university admit as a master’s credentials.If I get 6.5 I will either choose MBA or some computer subjects.My age is 23 from a middle class family to be honest and I’m expecting only through bank loan.Suggest me which province is best for PR and part-time wise.Frankly say whether my decision is wise ,if not advice me what should I do as a well wisher of mine.
Dear Salman because life quality does not depend on job only I am going back to Europe even I and my wife we have a very good job position here. Australia has e better weather and better quality of the life just for that. It is really difficult for me to understand how the life could be great in Canada where has one of the worse weather in the world with the east under the snow most of the year and the west under the rain most of the year as well.
If the immigrants had the opportunity to have a European passport or USA believe to me this country would loose half of is population. Look the statistics how many people come and how many leave, this country struggle to keep the immigrant people living here. When I arrive here in 2000 in Vancouver the balance was 7000 were coming every month and 7000 thousand people were leaving. That time I understood the ones they chosen Vancouver but after few year I understood why the 7000 thousand were leaving. Today Canada is much worse than before and is in a bubble where people can not afford the life and specially the family…….. so if this is a great living !!!!
Oh yes most definitely! The only reason I came to Canada was because at the time of application only 3 countries had open immigration – Canada, New Zealand & Australia. The main reason I choose Canada was so that it will be easier to move to US.
I have also noticed a trend here that ethnicity plays a big role:
Brown people will hire more brown people than any other race and we can break it into more specific – religion wise as well.
White people will hire more white people and we can break it into more specific – Italians, Russians, Jews, British.
So you might be in luck if you are brown and the HR person is brown (which is very rare). And don’t expect anyone to help you here until unless you know them personally, just because the person is from your country he/she is not going to help you.
Just to give some prospective new comers an idea how the job market is here is your are Asian
Asian job seekers face disadvantage even when they have higher degrees, study finds:
https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2017/01/25/better-education-doesnt-help-asian-job-candidates-beat-out-anglos-study.html
Jobseekers resort to ‘resumé whitening’ to get a foot in the door, study shows:
https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2016/03/17/jobseekers-resort-to-resum-whitening-to-get-a-foot-in-the-door-study-shows.html
Could a ‘blind recruitment’ policy make Canada less racist?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/blind-recruitment-marketplace-1.3462061
You can decide it for yourself if immigrating to Canada is a good choice?
I am Catholic, our family has been Catholic for centuries…
Recently I told my Pastor why we don’t confess anymore; ‘Since coming to Canada we feel that we are sinning 24 hours per day, 7 days per week!’.
He is my great friend, I was able to save his brothers by telling then about the secret bank bailout of 2008 so he trusts my economic ideas… he was very sad about my Christian state, but accepted what I said… I am sure he prays for us…
I hope anyone reeading this will pray for us – Hindu, Judaism, Buddhism, Christian, Islam/Muslim and anybody else…
Thank you.
Send your resume to all the company if they are interested they can interview you by Skype then start your immigration paper. My personally experience there are lot`s of educated people ( Doctor etc.etc ) driving the cab because their education is not recognized in Canada and they must start to give the exams over again. The Canadian embassy give points for your degree then is not worth inside the country unless you can work for private sector. If the company is really interested then will be willingto sponsor you. I suggest get in contact with people and company in your job/field and ask questions.
Dear Dale,
I went through the entire post & the comments threads following it. The thing is I am a 28 year old Chemical engineer in India planning to apply for a PR from my home country which happens to be India. My consultant in India tells me that the i need to get my ECA done( Education Credential Assesment), appear for IELTS(this one aint too difficult) get my Resume ready drop it the pool & wait for ITA(Invitation to apply) the entire process will take 10 months(roundabout) & burn around 1.5 lacs of my cash. I can take that given the fact that Canada has always been my dream destination(partly because my sis who is a US green card holder & a Chicago resident wants to see me in her neighbouring country).
Now the tricky part is that my consultant tells me, rather I should say assures me that the moment I get my PR succesfully I am 100% ready for a job in the Canadian market! I just need to upload my Resume in the ‘Canadian Job Bank’ & offers will start flowing in!! My consultant also tells me that without a PR it is virtually impossible to land a job in Canada!
Should I go ahead & believe my consultant? I really really dont want to spend lacs of my hard earned cash (after spending 1.5 lacs already for getting the PR) in just flying in to Canada & then running pillar to post to find a job, renting a place, eating etc…neither do I like the idea of getting my Chemical Engineering degree treated to be at par with a waiter @Tim Hortons( not to undermine waiters but I didnt study Engg to become one or a cab driver) having said that I have no qualms in going for any technical job which is much down graded than the one I am currently working on.
I am employed with British MNC.
Please advise.
Thanks
Sorry, your consultant is a LIAR! Consider this: every year over 100,000 students leave Canadian universities. Everyday 29 NEW IMMIGRANTS land in Canada just like you! I have confronted ‘consultants’ in Canada and some have even closed their websites, etc. Show this comment to your consultant and then publish his/her name. There is a thing called ‘security clearance’. NO NEW CANADIAN can work for top level jobs as they require AAA security clearence. Today even Tim Hortons, McDonalds, Walmart have waiting lists… 🙂 Even Cab drivers now have a hard time with ‘Uber’ and many white Canadians like to use Uber so that brown/black people can’t earn money…
I sincerely wish I NEVER HEARD the name Canada… I have to wait one more year here – I hope to be out of this hell by then and I will publish all my experiences in a book without shame.
U.S.A. is still a great country – much lower cost of living, etc – but my friend, I know India – India is the land of opportunity. Have the same dreams for India, like you have for Canada and you will do well. It will be so expensive to travel to USA (Chicago) from Canada…
In 1998 we did an economic study on India.. India has over 150 million people – unknown to the world – who can BUY a country with a ‘Cashiers cheque’…. India is a super power!
He is not a liar but playing with the words. Once he gets his PR he is 100% ready for Canadian job market. That statement is correct but what he is not telling is that he will not get the jobs in his fields. Canada wants educated people coming in from all over the world, bring cash and then clean toilets in Canada.
Parag, Yes, agreed 🙂
Hi,
I am 25 years old and has 2 years of work experience.
I am planning to get a masters in computer science from a Canadian university.
Then I plan to work there.
Is it difficult to get a job there even after you study from a Canadian University? How is the job market for computer science jobs in Canada?
Thanks
Ravi
Just so you know you will be paying x3 the fees of citizens / PRs but definitely it will help you to get your career started here and the other benefit is your still young.
Also you can try to get a job at TCS or some other MNC IT firms in India and then if they have projects running here you can apply for a PR. I know many people who came here with jobs and applied for PRs and got them.
I am not an immigrant but I am married to one so I have some insight. Although I have met many immigrants who are working in jobs they are overqualified for, I know just as many who are highly successful here. The key is to do your research before hand and know what you are getting into. I will not pretend the road will be easy, but it is possible depending on how hard you are willing to work to get there. I see so much pessimism in the responses that it shocks me. Not everyone in Canada will be laid off from their job, I have never been let go nor has my husband and he is a deaf immigrant with a grade five education. I am a teacher and have never been on strike, nor do I have to constantly pay to upgrade my qualifications. I should also add that I am smart enough not to live or work in Ontario. My husband, the immigrant in the family, is a drywaller. He started out in a warehouse, then got manufacturing jobs, then found a job with a drywall company. He does not love the work, but he is well paid and has always been considered a top employee because he works hard. Whenever he left a job it was because he found something better.
Canada is not a utopia, but I don’t think it is fair to describe it as the hell that some do here. Yes there are racists in Canada but that is true in any country, and there are many here who are not. I live in a quiet middle class suburb and my street houses families of every colour and nationality, many of them immigrants.
Great point. I think context is important. What you say is correct and what others are saying is also correct. The problem is “expectations” of the immigrants. What Canada tells them before immigration is what builds these expectations. Canada tells them we need your skills and we are a high paying affluent society. These are educated people who already have lucrative jobs in countries they immigrate from. They have saved some money and are doing well already. These people come to Canada and get a run around. No wonder they are negative because they feel betrayed. Leaving a job and a country when you are doing well is a huge decision. When you feel that you have taken a wrong decision based on false marketing strategy, you feel scammed. The anger of immigrants is justified. However, context under which this anger occurs is also important to understand. Canada is not a bad country if you want to start a business, work in a restaurant, drive a cab or work in construction industry. However, it is pretty much saturated in professional jobs that requires higher education.
In other words CANADA LIES (BS) so that affluent people come here with CASH (US$) and spend it so that the TOP-75 families and te corrupt politicians can enjoy life on our dime! Tell ANY Canadian you are poor and watch them run faster than a ‘cheetah’ (cheater)!
Very true….Caucasian Canadians only want you for your money and business….Once you’re poor or fits the stereotype of poor, they not only run away from you, but they engage in racist micro-regressions such as suspicion of criminal activities, false complaints of rape (from Caucasian women), police carding, you name it.
Jolene,
Yes, every country has racists. The problem with Canada is that as a country it presents itself to the media like it is faultless and all accepting of others, well it is not. And people have a right to be irritated about that and speak their truth. yes there is kindness and open mindedness here, but hate and stupidity too. I am glad that your immigrant husband has found success. You state that he has only a 5th grade education. He has had a variety of jobs and seems to manage to leave on his terms and work up to better. This is great. For others they have the opposite experience. They have specialized skills or expensive higher educations that they worked extremely hard for and probably paid a lot for. They want to find careers that allow them to use their skills and expertise. They have a right to discuss their reality on forums like this, not to be negative but to be honest. And honestly many people coming to Canada do have negative experiences. I laughed at your Ontario remarks, I agree with them completely but someone could get on here talking about what a wonderful place Ontario is to live. And for some maybe it is.
Toronto
Me again. Starting a new life in a new country is never easy. Perhaps people need to move to Canada or anywhere else with that mind set. Before you make the move, do a thorough research, plan, strategize. Don’t go expecting the kind of life you lived in your home country right off the bat. And be prepared to WORK DAMN HARD. I see people immigrating with 2 Masters degrees and Ph.ds. Perhaps one should think about doing something else. I hear people in the trades make tons of money. Perhaps one could re-train as a carpenter or something in construction. Get a trade certification and start your own business. Sounds simplistic but highly doable. But the thing is, a lot of immigrants are highly educated and will look down on that kind of work, which is a pity because its a good way to start your own business. Just me thinking.
Actually, do not let the comments discourage you either. A lot depends on your own financial status. If you do not want to practice law and want to start a business where you are willing to put some capital then it may not be as bad (in my opinion). I don’t know from where you will be immigrating from, but business taxes are low in Canada and income taxes are high. Many doctors set up a corporation for themselves so that they can avoid having to pay income taxes and only pay business taxes. Most of the discussion here is focused on people seeking professional jobs and having difficulty finding them. Starting a new business is entirely different issue.
Oh boy! This is frightening! I actually thought to start my own business instead of getting a job as I’m definitely too old. (46, separated with 2 boys 10 and 11 years). Besides I’m a lawyer with 25 years of experience and I don’t intend to start taking the Canadian bar exams, essentially starting from a scratch. So I thought to start a business. I’m familiar with a lot of the problems inherent in Canada’s immigration system which is what put me off the first time I seriously considered it 20 years ago when I was younger and unmarried (besides the cold and loneliness!!) But after my marriage breakup, I am seriously looking for a fresh start for myself and my boys, the oldest who needs some special ed. Perhaps I ought to look somewhere else, definitely not the US or UK. But I have fallen in love with Canada (from afar) despite the abysmal weather. Could it really be as bad as I’ve read on this board?
This post and the comments opened my eyes, to something unpleasant but possibly true. It has been my dream to move to Canada. But reading this and doing a whole lot more research, I feel so purposeless. 🙁 Although I’m 27 with one and a half years of Indian work experiecne in marketing, what are my chances of carving a good career path in Canada?
It is unbelievable that after reading the article and the comments, someone is still asking to come to Canada! Maybe because some people look Canada through Facebook friends. The propaganda of Canada is hard to die and is helped by other immigrants who do not want their friends and sometimes their own family left in their home country to know the truth.
Oh, Sal, you don’t know the fools – the ones who are here are in DENIAL. They have a stupid pride (show offs)… I have to believe that these people, and the ones who are coming can’t escape their Karma… my family and I pray daily for God to forgive us so that we can get out of this hell… only 10 more months to go and we will leave hell…
The immigrant mentality is: We are better than our own!
Ok which country u belong?I am an Indian dentist looking to emigrate to canada,is it worth to immigrate der or I have to do menial job,I am very much obsessed any Canada since 2015 but reading your posts I am afraid if I will become a labourer for ever
I am 26. Double master in English lit. and Journalism and Mass comm. in India. A working professional. I wish to move to Canada with not so much money but with experience in the field of journalism. I have tried to contact friends who moved there after we left school or graduated college. They don’t talk much about their experiences, where they work, what salaries are common and how things could be worked up for a better living once an individual turns up. The only answer I have received is ‘it is difficult’, but their lifestyle visible through facebook and statements otherwise paint a different story. The interesting part is that almost all the immigrant friends have taken up courses in colleges and/or universities after moving. I want to know experiences of young professionals and would it be wise for me to take the leap? Also about journalism jobs in the country.
Hi, I am 26 years old and have a bachelor’s degree in Computer Engineering with 4 years of work experience as an application support analyst in India. If I apply for a PR in Canada. via the express entry program, what are my chances of finding a job in IT?
Hi All,
I have been reading all the comments and confirmed that I will not pursue with my Canadian migration dreams!!.
i am john am from nigeria buy i studying in canada as a international student . i need help cause am a fool canada . people treat you like piece of sheet everywhere you go , please advice
Hi i thinking about migrating. I am a chemical process plant operator with 20 years experience . Can you give me an idea of wht my chances are
Hai
I’m jabasteen.
I’m working an system administrators in India for 10, years Experience.
Im think to apply PR for Canada through Kansas consultancy. They have been giving job Assistance..
My query is
Im little confused on choosing Middle East and Canada
Cost of living between two countries
Is that we can survive
How we can spend on every month
How much we would be payed by employers
Just wished to immigrate to Canada. I have work experience and skilled in Health, Safety & Environment for years. What changes do I have to get job of that type.
I am vet , in the metropolitan city of india , has own clinic , I am 46 yr old , and my wife is 41 yr old , I am already halfway through the process of international license to practise in north america . Will it be the wise decision to come to canada and start from all over again , By the way I started my practice 7 yrs ago , though I graduated in early 90’s.
Advisable you don’t Migrate
I would strongly advise you to not immigrate at this point. Since you are a professional, you have to give exams and get qualified and by the time you can practice, it will be about 8 years. No one will hire you. Sorry to say
I would not come to Canada. Vets do make a large amount of money here. It sounds like you will have the international qualifications to practice but that does not mean anyone will hire you. Rent to start a business is high, rent to live is even higher. If you plan to come to Canada you would be better off to go to a small town but you may not find work there. Toronto is so expensive that most new people just lose all of their money on basic living expenses while they try to build a life and then they become trapped or have to go back where they came from. Immigrants who do pretty well are the ones who want to be in the trades. Canada has decided that immigrants will do those jobs and you can indeed earn a decent living at them. You are a vet though, and I am guessing do not want to be a painter, plumber, or mason worker.
I would look elsewhere.
Toronto
Hi All,
I need your help in something.
I am 29 years old with 8 years of work experience here in India in Insurance Sector.
My wife is 28 years old, A Certified Financial planner with 4 years of work experience here in India.
We both are planning to Migrate to Canada, we do not have any job offers right now.
Will it be a Right decision to move to Canada pertaining to my situation?
Regards,
Nitin
Hi,
Considering the age you are in, yes will be worthwhile
But forget your education …doesn’t matter what you have done back in your country..unless you are from England/USA your qualification is of no value..but again who knows you will land with jobs in your own field.
I am telling this from my exp. Although I live in NZ, I have a Canadian PR and am not preferring to go there as I will have to start my career again and no life there as its too cold.
Hi,
So i was thinking to apply for Canada PR via a consultant here in India. I am 28 and currently working with a well known research and advisory firm. But after reading all the comments here, I am quiet unsure about applying for PR.
Can you suggest whether or not I should go for the same.
What NOBODY understands about Canada’s immigration policiy is this:
CANADA IS THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT ADVERTISES IMMIGRATION, saying things like ‘low-unemployment rate’, ‘best country in the world to live in’, ‘a democracy (no, it is a monarchy)’, ‘high paying jobs’, ‘multi-cultural’, etc, etc.
So, you cannot compare Canadian immigration/education to other countries. NO OTHER country ADVERTISES with BIG BUCK to promote immigration as Canada does!
This year, the government wants to bring 450,000+ immigrants. Multiply that number by $30,000 = $13.5 BILLION! Now you know WHY! It is called ‘ECONOMIC TOURISM’. In the first year, you PAY FOR EVERYTHING and the TOP-75 families get YOUR money. Over 75%, it is believed, leave Canada in the first year itself.
The top 75 families who OWN AND CONTROL everything in Canada get $13.% billion in income from new immigrants… then they give it back to you slowly…. you will NEVER succeed in Canada unless you are willing to break your spirit by working ‘menial’ jobs…
Banks and everyone treats you with suspicion and with good reason… An Indian in Markham wanted to HOLD MY PASSPORT to give me the order – yes this is Canada!!!
Question about the People in Quebec.
What are they like? Any significant difference from the cold, cold, shallow, uninteresting, stupid, cold people elsewhere in this anglo-saxon country known as Canada?
I am a software developer from Ethiopia. With good skills.
I have read all of the above and have a good picture now. But what about the IT professionals, specifically developers,
they should be in need right?
So do you advice me to migrate to Canada?
Alex,
In my opinion IT anywhere in the world, has the advantage is that it is the same unlike Accounting, Law or Medicine where you have to study locally in order to get your licence. But that being said don’t expect it to be easy here, initially you might get tough time but still worthed. Chances for you are much higher to succeed but remember if you are a managerial level, you still might have to start at entry level here and work your way up the ladder.
My advice to you:
A) if you have a Multi-National Corporation (MNC) in your home country that have projects running here then try to get a job there and then get a transfer here and when you here then apply for a PR. I have seen many IT professionals who came like this and applied for a PR and finally citizenship rather than many other who came without a job but as a PR and are struggling to get a job.
B) If you dont have a MNC that have projects here or can’t get it into one but still really want to come here without a job then my advice to you will will be save as much money as possible, try to finish some world recognized certifications in your field and once you here try big cities as well smaller towns/ cities and after few years once you have the so called “CANADIAN EXPERIENCE” in a small city, then if you want you can move to a big city. And also remember when you here then avoid lease and try to move into sharing. You can search here kijiji.ca for sharing rentals for example near York University. The reason you should avoid lease is because it will make you more flexible to move around Canada as you don’t know where you will get a job. While you are searching for a job in your field try to get what we call “Survival Job” (eg: Cashier, Security Guard or basically any job that takes care of your expenses etc).
Hope this helps 🙂
Hi Friends i am an immigrant from India now living here for last 10 years. We moved from UAE with our only son.
So many complaints but still everybody wanna come. I do agree we struggled hard in the start but now well settled. Our son is independent studying and working at the same time that is the value of hard work and time he learnt in Canada , but kids of my friends and cousins of same age in India having so many concerns soecially even after getting degreesthey struggling to find a job.
Till Today no body asked us what is your caste or religion other than the immigrants from India itself.So where is more racism?
Only people who can’t make it out are the one who are shouting and if some one give them a chance to come to Canada will be the first one to fly.
Great Human values , Great People and Great Country to live …if you wanna achieve something you have to work hard and follow the system
Regards
I will advise everyone either to go to US, UK, Australia or New Zealand rather than coming here. Lots of people are definitely coming here without not knowing much or hoping they will make it. Here, the discussion is about not a few but what is happening to the majority of newcomers. India currently stands as No.4 as the most number of billionaires in a country, but that doesn’t mean everyone in India is a Billionaire. As I said before, chances are 20-30% of immigrants only succeed – but that too after a lot of hard work and basically starting your career from scratch and taking years to build it from where you left off in your home country. Of course, I know some Indian people who came here and the next day they had a job because they have relatives here who got them the job. There is no point to immigrate here until unless you have serious problem back home.
Racism does exist here and no one need to ask your religion or caste. Just by looking at your name or skin color, they know where you came from. Although only good part is that they will not openly express it by passing any racist or stupid comments.
The problem of jobs is also the same with fresh graduates because government is not able to create jobs and universities are producing graduates both local and foreign more than needed. Yes, there are jobs in small cities or towns and more isolated and the chances of you getting a job there are better. But the question is why will you want to move to Canada if you have to go through all this struggle?
Lots of factories have been closed down over the years, and Hamilton is the prime example. Once a rich city, it now has half of its population living on Government benefits. The Government has kept the population here satisfied by giving various sorts of benefits instead of creating more jobs.
Pika, I have to tell you only ONE THING!!! Nobody wants to know your caste or religion because Canada is a SECULAR country (religion/charity is BIG BUSINESS!!!) and EVERY IMMIGRANT is the LOWEST CASTE!!! Do you UNDERSTAND that – LOWEST CLASS? That is why everyone calls you ‘You guys’. I refuse to answer to anyone who called me ‘guys’…
If your Son is not a earning MORE THAN $80,000 per month then don’t bother bragging… you are similar to a Filipino chap who insulted all Indians because he, the Filipino, was happy CLEANING TOILETS (COOLIE) in schools!
I am a new immigrant, worked in Dubai too for 10years…and a Filipina
You hate racism so much, you don’t realize you’ve become the kettle calling the pot black. Hun, every person is different one Canadian can be super nice and compassionate while another can be a mass murderer, or maybe plain rude. Same goes to any other race…as my old Lebanese friend back in Dubai used to say, people and nationalities are much like fingers of our hands…they belong to the same hand but never equal (at least in size)
To say one person insulted “ALL” Indians isnt at all fair…not to the Filipino toilet cleaner, definitely not to the rest of the hardworking and friendly Filipinos in Canada. I have met very rude Indians (and some other nationalities) too in my years in Dubai, but I still make friends to a lot too. SO, unsolicited advice, focus on the issue on whether it is a good decision to move to Canada or not. Leave RACISM out of the argument — because whether you like it or not, it is everywhere.
Lastly, chill man….we are all different from each other DO NOT EVER generalize. If your arguments keep on pointing towards your hate on Filipinos or any other nationalities for that matter, you are just making yourself sound so bitter. For whatever reason, only you know.
Gilbertina, I come from a country where we have lots of Filipina immigrants, my nephew’s girl is a Filipina she is a cleaver girl from the good family and does not want to come to Canada, my parish has Filipino fathers, we have relatives and friends who are Philipino, etc)… the problem is Canadians. All of you come here to slave for the ‘white man’, even Indians, Sri Lankans, Pakistanis, etc… only difference to a great extent is mainland-Chinese. POINT: You called me ‘hun’…. don’t call me that! Also don’t call me the North American TRASH word ‘guys’… you can addres me by name or call me Mr. or Sir.. you have PROVEN MY POINT!
Pika:
I am not sure you are responding to the constraints highlighted in the article. If survival is all you want then you can survive rather well driving cabs. The problem is people who are educated what a job commensurate with their education level. That is where the problem appears to be. Most of the frustrations vented here require some understanding. Most people come here thinking that Canada needs their skills and that is why they are allowed to immigrate. When they cannot find the job in their field, they start questioning the wisdom of their decision. It then comes down to either stay in Canada and do crappy jobs just to survive or return home to a dignified job in their field.
Hello,
I have a very good job in Dubai.
Also have a Canadian PR.
I am planning to take an MBA from a top university in Canada, just got an offer. Please advise if the education and experience would help me get a decent job in Canada.
The reason to shift is obviously the citizenship factor. I am 31 now, but really sacred to take a decision having read the comments in the post.
GK, the age is on your side, but we don’t know about your family obligations. Frankly, if you have a great job in Dubai, you should be very careful before taking any decision. People have their priorities wrong if their aim is only to get the Canadian or US or UK passport. How does the foreign passport help? You may or may never get a decent job after doing your MBA in Canada. Then look at the number of years you will waste. During your study and later in search for the decent job, you will be spending all your savings. So, be careful before you leave your well-paying job in Dubai.
Thanks for the reply, the banks offer full financial assistance, the repayment seems to be very liberal.
GK, Good That you have a well paid Job. FOR NOW! since you are in middle east you already know which direction the wind is blowing here. Expats are increasingly being seen as a burden to the economy (especially the well paid ones!) and you never know when your lifeline will be cut and you will be forced to move back to your Home country-may be India.
Even if you manage to keep your handsome job – Other issue in Middle east – a major one – Starts when one reaches to its 40s! the kids are all grown up and soon moving out of school – then its a choice between a rock & a hard place. Either Send kids alone(which are still young) for studies to India or Send your wife+Kids to India. Making the family break inevitable.
I am in exactly the same situation as yours! Do share your thoughts on my reply 🙂
Hi Rajesh,
You are right there is no job security in Middle East. So Wats ur suggestion, the comments here are terrible about the life in canada?
It’s a gamble.. You win some, you loose some. So whether you stay or you go, it will have its pros and cons. It’S all about what you wish to keep and what you are prepared to leave behind.
Remember whatever has happened to people here may not happen to you. Everyone has distinct experiences.
In an ideal world, we could design our lives the way we wish but alas! That’s not how it works. So, Plan well, prepare yourself adequately, do your math and then go (or may be stay back).
Wish you luck!
The is ABSOLUTELY NO job security in Canada either!! Acording to my analysis EVERYONE gets laid off at least 3 times in one’s lifetime in Canada! So, as an Egyptian lady asked me/told me ‘Why did you close you business in Kuwait and move to Canada, don’t you like money?’…
GK, if you get into a top MBA school, then chances are you will be well settled here. You can also try to get a loan from the Government. MBA tuition fees are usually $80 000 for 2 years. Average age of MBA students are 28 so you are close to it. Local qualification will definitely help you to succeed and the advantage you will have is that you get the chance for internship/co-op and if you are good most likely the same company will hire you after you finish, so make sure to land yourself in a good internship program.
Without CONTACTS an MBA is USELESS!!! I know, I have done (built businesses since 1989) and I have an MBA twice… I was successful in my home country (and other countries) because of my CONTACTS, the ‘piece of paper with MBA on it comes THIRD (not second!!!), which means in Canada you have ZERO chanes of getting a job if you have an MBA as NOBODY will touch you because your qualification means that you they have to pay you more and ‘minimum wage’!!! They WANT CHEAP! Read all the comments, read DON’T WISH!
Thank you for Sharing your experience. But I have a few doubts. I understand your husband’s 20 years of experience is not valid in Canada but it will be valid in India. Why would you choose to continue your struggle, let your hard earned pool of savings run dry, deal with a harsh climate but not come back to your own country where you can still live with dignity and your chins up?
I think you haven’t painted the complete picture. There must be something compelling enough for you to stay back in Canada inspite of all odds.
Swati – the compelling factor before and after migration is HOPE. People hope that the life would be better for them and if not for them then for their children. This hope lets you take the greatest of the risks and keep you going through the toughest of the time.
Sometimes the destiny is in your favor and sometimes not, besides big decisions needs big courage also – you don’t just give up and pack your bags to move back.
Thanks Rajesh. I said so because I have heard of people who once went to Canada and never came back. So I always thought about what is it that keeps them there.
One thing I have realised that if you have a job then move to Canada. Don’t move in the hope of a job. Because that is when the harshest jerk is felt when you have to resort to low lying or fresher jobs.
Folks expecting a good paying jobs the day they land in Canada or any other country they are immigrating to, actually for them the whole Earth is a fools’ paradise..
The author (and his wife), sounds to me as silver spoon-fed brats who got good education in India and good position in Dubai. Forgive me for my ignorance if you have had struggle in early years or your career. Because if you did lived on “rags”, then wouldn’t have complained for job options or living in environment provided by Canada or Dubai.
Life as we know it has been much easier in last 20 years, which most of the immigrants expects it to be same way without sacrifice.
I currently live in India, and have given up PR of Singapore, lived in US but chose to live in India. However for me working in any part of the world or on any position is not a matter of concern. What difference are we trying to make around is what all matters to me. My career started when I was 8 years old.
Few of the skills I attained during my childhood to contribute in my family income, included but not limited to
1) Making paper bags and selling them in vegetable markets to buy vegetables
2) Making electrical accessories in the nights to earn $0.50 a day.
3) Worked in garment factory
4) Worked in TV repair shop as labour
5) Worked in electric motors manufacturing as labour
6) Worked in TV repairing shop as labour
7) Started my own milk selling booth at the age of 16 years
8) Working in computer monitor manufacturing as labour
9) Starting my own computer education center in partnership with my brother running it for 4 years
All of above I did even before I graduated. I have similar looking but more stable list after my graduation. Not to mention that I lost one of my brother in the battle of survival, who was in hospital for two years.
I had decent paying job with decent designation as per “Your Standard” in Singapore when I decided to denounce my PR and move on. I had decent salary, and well respected position in US when I got a challenging project to execute in India. And if I get a chance in future, I am willing to give up my current “decent” job and start my own shop in a corner somewhere, where I can make a difference.
This is the life I am striving to give to my children as well, even though I have now potential to make them silver spoon-fed brats. But I don’t want them to become naysayers like some of you, wherever they go in their life.
My advice to those who are not happy in current situation, whether in India, Canada, Africa or Europe, fire up yourself and strive to create a better society around you. Everything else will fall in place for you. Else keep living a life in “fools paradise” on this Earth.
Mr. Bangalorean, I will say what I told a Filipino chap like you ‘NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE LABOURERS AND COOLIES!’.
Also, you fail to get the message CANADA ADVERTISES BY USING THE WORLD BANK, MEDIA, ETC THAT CANADA HAS HIGH PAYING JOBS AND NEED QUALIFIED PEOPLE URGENTLY. Do you understand the problem?
Ok Mr. Bangalorean, circumstances change for people a lot. Many go to the US to get high pay. However reality kicks in when they land in a competitive market where they have to be on an average pay albeit quality of life much better in some way. Indians in Singapore are notorious to give up PR due to the NS rules there. So much so that the SG government now rarely approves PR for Indian passport holders.
Wow I am so glad I read this! I’m from Manchester in England and was looking to emigrate to Canada for a better life but I have definitely decided against it! I sincerely hope that life gets better for the immigrants in Canada, what an awful situation. I don’t have a degree, I have GCSE’s and work in Payroll so I can imagine I would be struggling a great deal.
You are lucky Anna, my friend from U.K., an English-woman is struggling in Canada… there is a very potent corrupt ‘oligrachy’ in Canada!
I also must add Ann, you now have Mark Carney (or cranage as I like to say)… so watch out… 🙂
100% TRUE!!!! I read the article and I totally agree with it. One of the worst places to immigrate is Canada. Had I known this before I would have never come here but I already spent all my savings of CAD25, 000 plus loan burden of CAD 13,000 so can’t really go back now. I am Chartered Accountant (UK) who studied and was working and living a very conformable life in Africa and thought that Canada will make my life better but I couldn’t me more wrong.
I came in 2014 and in 3 years because of temporary jobs I have moved 4 cities and changed my housing 6 times and still haven’t managed to find a good permanent job. The quality of my living has gone down significantly since I have come here. The 3 years that I have been here out of that I have been jobless for more than a year. I was a Finance Manager in a big organisation that was a part of a big group and here I can’t even get a job as an Accounts Clerk. I have nothing really good to say about Canada apart from that Government is a bit supportive towards newcomers. The biggest problem is that employers just do not want hire to skilled immigrants with foreign education and experience.
My advice for newcomers:
-It’s like this either you start your career from scratch – study or get some local qualification and be ready to work 2-3 jobs while at least having 1 job in your filed and most likely that job will be an entry level OR if you going to rely on your old country credential then only jobs for you will be basic pay jobs such cashier, gas attendants. I know Veterinary doctors, Engineers, Managers from difference countries who are now Cashier at the Gas station for more than 10 or 15 years.
-Immigrate to small town or city and you will increase your chances to get jobs but pay might not be great but cost of living is less. So here again if you need a job you have to sacrifice your standard of living by going to a small town. This is the main reason why Government wants Immigrants to come. They want them to settle in smaller cities but what’s happening right now is that big cities are becoming over crowded because 99% of the landed immigrants wants to settle in big cities as well as like rest of the Canadians.
-If you know many people friends or family who are is a positions to get you a job then don’t hesitate to ask them. Through personnel sources only you have highest chance of securing a job here. If you don’t know anyone like when I came here then I would suggest then don’t bother coming until you have some serious problem back home.
-Before coming here research as much as you can about Canada, job market, resume and interview tips, further qualification or Studies that you might need to take or software training that relates to your filed and programs for new comers by the Government. If possible then learn French as it increase your chances. Be ready to save every cent for the next 3-4 years or till you get a decent job. If you were a lavish spender like me when i was back home then don’t bother coming here.
-Get a credit card as soon as you come here and start building your credit history and regardless to say don’t over spend it and pay dues in time so that you don’t get charged. Also if you are a bachelor or couple look for sharing accommodation and try to avoid signing a lease as the lease laws here are messed up.
-If you are an IT or any other discipline professional working for a multinational firm in your home country then don’t bother applying for PR. If your company has any projects in Canada, then get a transfer and then when you are here, then apply for a job. Salaries in US and Australia are way better but people their might be more arrogant towards newcomers. Canadians are much better and will not pass any racist or stupid comments and usually keep to themselves.
-If you have an okay/comfortable life in your home country then don’t bother coming here. Chances of success might be 2 or 3 in 10 and first few years will be like hell and may take up to 10 years to be where you were when you left your home country. Think about if you haven’t left your home country then where will you be then?
If you are okay, we would like to use your comment as an article on the front page under your name `Rahul’. Please confirm by email because you have made some very valid points which every immigrant should know. Thanks.
Hi Moderator!
Yes please do and just to clarify Rahul is not my real name as I will like to keep my identity hidden.
Hi
I am 40year old indian. I am a Civil engineer currently employed in psu with annual salary 12lakh + med+ pension benefits. What is my prospectus in Canada. I am interested to migrate to canada.
Please don’t go to Canada since you already working in a PSU and you are over 40 years.
Be in India comfortably.
Arvind.
HI
My self is Vishwanath I am working as a system engg in India from last 8 years.
I am planning to travel to Canada due to financial problems in my family.
please help me out how to find a jobs in Canada any kind of jobs technical or non technical also ok.
please reply anybody jobs suits for me.
I am 29/m/Indian.
Have a work ex of 4 years.
Qualification: Mechanical engineer and MBA in Marketing.
Any suggestions for shifting base to Canada.
Why Canada? Better Quality life, Human values, Civic sense, Carrer opportunities.
I am from India.
Would like to send my daughter on student’s visa next year.
Now she is studying 11th commerce.
Any advice?
Nothing wrong. There are thousands and thousands of students from India coming here each year.
If you love your daughter you WILL NOT send her alone to Canada or any country. There are strip joints and ‘movie’ makers who specialize in hiring university students… As the moderator says, there are thousands who come, but what are the success rates?
Jayesh, My daughter is also in 11th Commerce and I want to send her to some university in Canada for undergraduation.
I think it is really a bad idea. I can only see two things happen to your daughter. First, a serious depression if she is conservative type. Or, second, she will change so much that you will fail to recognize her. She will be more Canadian than Canadian. What I mean by this is that she will pick everything bad about Canada. You cannot blame her because she is young. You either fit in or you don’t. Indians are not very mentally strong. An emotional person at a young age means disasters waiting to happen. What is worse is that she cannot turn to you for any counsel because you just will not understand her problem. Yes, it is nice to claim that India is very modern but no. This is not about being modern. It is about a totally different economic and social system. It is like someone changes the law of gravity. It is a change somewhat like that.
Mr.Jayesh your daughter may endup in Brothels or Nightclubs, Mind you…
Note to moderator: Please publish my comments. I am not being malicious, and I either have circumstantial evidence to what I say, to tangible evidence.
Proof of racism:
For years I had the unique displeasure of going to a meeting and been shown the door because of my CHRISTIAN name, which is a saint’s name. Following ar some examples of what has happened to me:
Portuguese: ‘I was expecting someone else’.
Sri Lankan Tamil: How come you have a ‘western’ name?
Russian: Polite but asked me to give him the product free.
Sri Lankan sinhalese/buddhist doctor: I am working for free in Canada and I can only pay you $100 per year (he thinks since the government pays him he is working for free!).
Chinese real-estate lady: Refused to talk to me or give the cheque to she had promised my sales person ‘When your boss comes to meet me I will give the cheque’. She refused to speak to me!
Mexican: Canceled the order after six months (to be polite) but had all kinds of problems. Now buys the same service paying 3 times more from a ‘white’ company.
Caucasian Canadian: I am not impressed with you charging me for services.
Japanese car parts manufacturer in woodstock.
Eastern European dental technician…
etc, etc…
Palestinians are the BEST (least racist) from my experiences.
But, if anyone is buying from a new immigrant, or hiring a new immigrant they do so because of CHEAP – not because they love you. Even supermarkets hire new immigrants because they are about $3 per hour CHEAPER than white Canadians!
I have had some luck, but it is far and way too little.
Now I send quotations with my christian name, and when they reply I reply with my ethnic name in brackets and they discontinue the negotiations and that’s it. It happened to me today, a muslim wrote to me and asked me to help him with his business, when I replied with my ethinic name he just said ‘OK’ and that’s it! I just don’t waste time anymore visiting customers.
That is the biggest problem in Canada: Filipinos, Chinese, Sri Lankans, Indians, etc., all want to buy from the white. They ONLY like other colours if they are selling.
Canada is the MOST RACIST country in the world! I am making my money away from Canada, if I had to make money in Canada I would starve! My family and I will NEVER do SLAVE JOBS in Canada!
Dale – dude, you’re stating the facts and that’s not very sweet! haha. I’m into Human Resources, works with one of the top ten computer/IT giants in India (4 years). I just got married and was thinking if I should go abroad, make some more money, better education when we have kids (the typical Indian dream). And since the new president has shut down silicon valley dreams, I was thinking Canada. Yes I do have a good paying, reputed job, still faraway from home. And that makes me feel going abroad is still fine, anyway I do not get to live/work in my small town with the corporate job!
Realistically, is it Ok to think I can find my-domain corporate job, with the privileges I enjoy if I move to Canada? Honestly, I do not want to pluck apples or drive a cab over-night to earn a few bucks more. I really appreciate your honest answers!
Congrats on having a good job in a good company..
It all depends on what you want from your life, if you are talking about education I believe India is good as well- IIT, IIM,XLRI etc, else you won’t be working where you are- Please correct me if I am wrong.
Majority of 1st generation migrants struggle for first 10 years , now if you are migrating at the age of 35 by the time you get a not very stable job then you will have tension and you age would be around 45…do you maths …Again it all depends upon your perceptive…
I live in NZ and i migrated here at the age of 23 and been to Canada as I have a residency there ….but I would rather live in NZ as its good and honestly have less migrants here so far… so less problems…
I didn’t find Canada to be very flash except it has huge amount of wasteland and people have to travel far to find work… and to be honest I found that the service they provide is sub standard to NZ…
What is the point of earning lots of money when you don’t reach home by 5 or 6… and what is the point of enjoying the fruit of your hard work at your old age when you actually won’t be able to enjoy it as in western world there is no retirement age so people tend to work to their grave..
So you have to ask all these question to yourself before you migrate.
All the best…
Hello Cherian, I am 37 yrs old. I am from India. Have graduation in BBA and MCA from distance education of a University in India. I have 8 yrs experience in software development and support jobs in India. Will I get a decent job in New zealand if immigrate there. Plz reply.
‘drifters’, thank you! I am happy I have reached at least one person. I have been building tech businesses for Entrepreneurs since the late 1980s… in many countries… Canada is my LEAST success story… for every $ I made in another country (including India) I have lost about $10 in Canada (I was a tech consultant for Eveready India, I.T.I., etc around 1993 and have done lots of work with Indian companies, even from Canada…)
To the point; India is a ONE BILLION+ market. If you can’t make it in India, I doubt it you will make it in Canada! I know it is hard, but it is HARDER in Canada. Your ‘Ambassador’ cars are great – your Tata’s are actually Mercs, the Maruti’s as Suzuki’s, etc but MADE IN INDIA (what a great honour) – The USA will NOT do anything in Asia without the permission of India! I know!
So, make it in India my friend! It is easy to make Rs. 100,000 ‘per day’ in India – just think out of the box – DONT, DONT, DONT start a BPO (Call center) type business… I had a friend in Mubai who owned a small factory and was supplying machines and parts to Asian factories… he was not a millionaire, but he made about Rs 100,000 per month (mid 1990s) and he was very happy.
After you make it in India, come to Caanda, then it is a different ball game… just like Tata, Reliance, etc have done in Canada… then you too can make money from the ‘new immigrants’ 🙂 – I am sure you get the message!
I will be investing in India again very soon… if things go according to plan…
I am well qualified yoga teacher in india, are there any opportunity in Canada for me. Is Canada best for me.
If you are willing to do anything, then you should think, otherwise stay where you are if you some a good paying job.
Chakradhar,
If you are a good yoga teacher, stay in India or go to the US. In Canada the rent to even have a space is ridiculous and most of the people in yoga classes are upper middle class white people who may have very little interest in the spiritual side of the practice at all. There are a lot of yoga studios here in Toronto, you may look online or even give them a call and see what they are like. That will give you an impression at least.
Toronto
Please how possible is it to get PR in canada while studying? Or how do I get PR as a student?
After your graduation, you have to find work and then you can apply for your PR. Not while you are still a student.
Hi
I wish to come canada.
For work i had completed 12th and master diploma in information technology in private institute.
Now i m live in Ahmedabad, Gujarat, india.
Is it possible?
Myself Aarya Thakore, my husband and my daughter will also come with me.
We visited Jet Overseas pvt ltd, they told us it’s possible to get work permit they sent us migrant assessment letter and job offer letter. from Niagara City.
Please tell me right way.
Aary, there are 2 ways. You can apply for work permit or can wait a year / make a saving and apply directly for PR.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/
it’s upto you.
Hello,
I have been fooled by a Canadian immigration agency before giving me bogus offer letter so they can collect money from me. I suggest you check first if Jet Overseas is listed in the accredited agents in the Canadian Embassy in India. As suggested apply directly for PR.
hello
i’m planning to move to canada with my mother i hold the pr of canada. i had a tragic car accident in which i lost my whole family except my mother. we both are living up on our savings. please tell me that is this a nice move to make if we have very less money in our hands. it’s kind of urgent so i will be very kind of you if you try to reply asap. thank you 🙂
Sorry to know your about tragedy. Hope God gives you the strength to bear the loss. As for your decision to move to Canada, it depends on your age and your profession.
Yoga, sorry for the trouble. as the publisher said, ‘don’t dream’ but open both of your eyes before moving to Canada.
I believe the person is still in Canada too… and want to let everybody know / understand the real situation.
He/she is not criticizing about the Canada but giving the hints who might face the same fate.
And please how much will I be able to make in a year, after rent and tax+expenses, if am to depend on $10 per hr?
I am from Nigeria and am 27 yrs old. Please, what are my chances of surviving in Canada as I’m uneducated? Which type of work will I be able to find? Meanwhile, I am running my business here in Nigeria but wish to relocate to Canada for a good living, as life in Nigeria is hell on earth.
But you are posting this from the US as your IP address shows!
Please am currently in nigeria believe me
The Internet doesn’t lie.
Please can you be of help to my question?
My number +2347033449923 incase you are still doubting my location.
No, we are not doubting that you are from Nigeria. But your IP address from which you are posting your comments is 141.0.15.141 which is in the US.
Dear Moderator – “The Internet doesn’t lie.”
Ermmm, It does!!! If you are talking about content, around 25% of the content on the internet is lies, fake news and propaganda. If you are talking about technical details, it still does lie and there are ways people make it lie! IP Addresses are not foolproof evidence of location. Your point was an unnecessary distraction.
To moderator, sometimes people use TOR networks or proxy servers to connect to the internet. I also sometimes connect via USA, so, if I do, you will get the IP of my US server. The IP can be trusted ONLY if the IP matches what the user says, if it is different, it does not mean anything, IP spoofing is a big problem and because Governments spy (again Canada leads in that one too) on traffic, people do use TOR networks, etc to connect and mask their IPs.
Trust this helps.
First, you have to see if you can qualify to get immigration to Canada because you say you are uneducated. It is difficult to get immigration to Canada if you are uneducated. If you can get immigration, then there are well-paying jobs in construction and heavy machinery operations.
Thanks alot. But please type of visa do I need to get into canada. And how do I get work permit?
On the Canadian mission in your country can tell you what type of visa is available to you. Or you have to consult immigration consultants in your country. Work permit is possible only if some company in Canada needs the skilled people of your type.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/ has all the answers of your queries. You cannot open you mouth and get feed every time.
I stopped reading with the bullshit about teachers being perpetually on strike in Canada. Deflect, deflect, deflect. Like the guy who can’t get a girlfriend because ‘all the girls here are lesbians.’ What twaddle.
I am an indian that moved to Canada when I was 7. Its a lovely country. This guy is a loser that just couldn’t make it. underachiever.
Chris, you came to Canada as a kid when you were only 7.Here we are not talking about kids. We are talking about qualified people who were already well established and great achievers, thats why they were allowed to immigrate to Canada. I hope you understand it. Or probably not, because the kind of bad words you used for these suffering people already shows your standard of “achievement”. The real Canadians are humble and ready to integrate everybody.
True Ritu,second generation if were given the chance to be a first generation would’nt survive in Canada for sure.
Dear Ritu,
Immigrating to a new country is a big Step. So, isn’t it for people to do their due research before they embark on a big-life changing move as this.
And i don’t even trust Canadians are polite. They are only trying to be politically correct all the times.
You should thank your parents instead who had worked hard on your part to settle you there. Otherwise you would have been in the queue too.
Yeah second generations enjoy the fruit of parents who did every kinds of job without caring who they are and what they should have been qualified for …..
Chris,
Canada is a lovely country! I have driven across Canada many time; from PEI, to Vancouver to Inuvik – have you? My family and I do a road trip every summer. Do you?
So, let’s have some data from you, please answer the questions, if you can:
1. Is your salary more than $60,000 or less than $60,000? From my analysis, it is extremely rare that a 1st or 2nd generation immigrant getting any job that pays over $60,000 unless there is a ‘connection’, or ‘investment’, ‘affirmative action’ or in your own convenience store or work in the USA/another country.
2. What is your designation? Where do you work? CEO/President of GAS bar does not count!
3. Have you checked the salary the previous white person got before you got his/her job. White Canadians are ANGRY with ‘visible-minorities’ because they blame ‘visible minorities’ for working for cheap!
4. How many Ukrainian Canadian friends do you have? Do you know of any Ukrainian Canadians who vote Liberals?
5. Have you ever tried to hire a Filipino worker who you know works for minimum wage but will not work for you unless you pay at least double? Have you been treated Bbadly by a Filipino Nurse/Medical staff?
6. Have you tried to get a service from another ‘visible minority’ (even you own kind) and found them to want more money from you but will work for cheap for a white company?
7. If you answer positive for the above, what is your true skin colour and ethnicity?
Note to moderator: The above is based on studies, not imaginary. I have spoken to people and have had or seen the experiences of other ‘dark skins’.
Hi,
I’ve been patiently reading the article & the comments below. I see majority of the people are stating “Canada Needs your money” I fail to understand why would a developed nation who have tons of Shell Gas reserve, Gold mines would need meager amount of money from the aspiring immigrants. Isn’t Canada a bustling economy with a brilliant leader (Prime Minister Trudeau seems to be an inspiring individual). I understand that the weather is harsh & people with inadequate qualifications struggle to get white collar jobs but is it the same for all.
For instance I’m an MBA from India with 5 years of work ex. I have full professional proficiency in English language & have been working for the Indian Internet (E-Commerce) industry. What are my prospects if I apply for PR in Canada? Will I be jobless? Will I have to study further?
I don’t believe in the utopia of “Tax Free Income”, I think racism is invited most of the time. If you’re a well mannered, educated & well spoken person why on earth would another educated individual humiliate you racially?
I hope I’ll get some rational answers to my questions.
Thanks
First question :- R u still in india and fishing to migrate.
Second question :- if you have a good job and happy why do you want to migrate
IT has good scope, it all depends… people are talking about their exp in this blog.
Probably you may have to study as you are from INDIA….
Racism is everywhere…. not matter how much educated you are…you will find that in INDIA as well
Canada is not ideal for migrating for people in the age group as the author. The job market is tricky there and will take some time and research for new immigrants to get the hang of it. The mandate is: employees have to be paid by their experience in their professions. So,people with the work experience of 20-30 years might require the compensation of a VP , which means the cost to company is huge. Obviously no employer would want to hire them. A lot of networking might help the cause to an extent. Getting there with no clue about the job market, culture, weather, etc is a sure recipe for disappointment. There are some very simple nuances while applying for a job in canada- which you will pick up only in time after a lot of job searching and failing. If you get that right, then getting a job is like a breeze.
If you are someone who are in the entry levels of your career, then Canada is definitely the best choice for migration. You have to keep your options open in the initial few years before you work your way and get where you want to be . When you are young , your body and mind is helpful, and once you are settled in a career, things are truly rewarding. And there is dignity of labor in canada, You will not be looked down if you are doing odd jobs at restuarant, driving cabs etc. People who do not have this mind set, and accustomed to leading very comfortable lives , Please stay away.
And if you ask the people who have been long migrated and settled in canda, they will tell you what a Paradise Canada is ! I am sure the author itself should have had her opinion corrected by now.. cheers
Well, here is some math for you:
New immigrants bring an average of US$ 30,000 minimum to Canada each year (the average is per person) because a family average is about $120,000.00 – they may not bring the money up front, but, somewhere down the line they sell their property/assets in their country and bring the cash. That is a MINIMUM os US$ 7.5 Billion per year!
The ones who came since the 1980s and still stay here or other who are biding their time but have business/income in their home countries (and don’t want to ‘work up’ by doing MENIAL jobs contribute about US$ 150 BILLION per year to the economy.
The 3rd is International students.
Then don’t forget the SUPER RICH that ‘invest’ in Canada to take advantage of the above and a HIGHLY CONTROLLED and PRICE FIXED real estate (black) market.
All in all, Canada does great things – but all with immigrant CASH! About 75 families own and CONTROL everything in Canada. Google two books: ‘Who owns Canada now’ and ‘Controlling Interests’ – both by the same author, Diane Francis.
So, it is indeed a fool’s paradise if you think this is a ‘heaven’ and all Canadians (I mean even your own countrymen) welcome you because they love you, NO, they love your CASH!!!!
To be fair, if you are from a country and have lived in a ‘soap box’ then Canada is indeed a step up. But that figure of the entire 250,000 is about 30,000. There are 10,000 refugees allowed each year (remember refugees are RICH people – like the Syrians – in their countries – so they too bring CASH or valuables/Jeweller – if not up front, some day later). About 210,000 are ‘economic’ immigrants, feeding the top 75-odd ‘families’ with new business each year.
It is REALLY a challenge to educate your kids (you may think they are learning, but the marks are not worth the digits – the HR companies know this)… we find that we need to educate the Principals and Teachers almost once per week… the schools are actually built to sell the SLUM (planned community houses) houses and generate business for McDonalds Canada, Tim Hortons Canada, etc. I mention the word Canada after Mcdonalds and Tim Hortons because, although those businesses are ‘American’, the ‘franchises’ are owned by Canadians. It is one BIG RACKET.
Everything is HIGHLY CONTROLLED!
The real average salary is about $36,000 per year (before taxes). The statistics are bloated because the top businesses (to families) earn MILLIONS of dollars and politicians and other ‘special people’ get over $80,000.00. The PM of Canada gets, about $ 360,000 per year. Now multiply that by every province, and city who get similar salaries and the ‘average’ salary goes up.
Healthcare is NOT FREE. We pay over 65 percent in all kinds of taxes for health care! Doctors are really scary – at least for me!
By the time an immigrant realises that the sole objective of every ‘friendly’ Canadian is either to get your money or labour, it is too late.
The SADDEST part is that most immigrant FOOL themselves that ‘this is great’ and then lie to their countrymen back home as they want to ‘play the game’.
Canada has a HUGE problem, and that is Emigration. People who realize the racket wait for their time and leave Canada. A majority of new immigrants leave in the first year. Because of that nobody will trust you with cash/loans/etc. About 300,000+ people leave Canada each year, and mostly in silent disgust or after doiing some thing to make money here. So when they do, they take at least $10,000 with them… so, it is ONE BIG ROLL!
So, there you have it… some do make it… but if you investigate you will see that they have invested heavily, either cash or by losing their dignity – the separation/divorce/family discontent rate of new immigrants is EXTREMELY high too.
You really need to be VERY STRONG, VERY CUNNING and VERY MISERLY to survive and get ahead… that is the only way… to think that Canada is being GENEROUS to you is a mistake. You may pay for with your mental stability, family happiness and possibly your life or the future generations.
Also google ‘Canada bank bailout’…. only a FOOL would believe that Canada somehow had some magic to survive the 2008 meltdown… ONLY A FOOL IN PARADISE would believe so!
The original author of this article is insulted by bank officials, etc. The author is NOT a ‘downer’, he/she is a REALIST.
To be very clear, I have stated the above to Municipal, City and Federal politicians and also to other officials and priests, businessman etc. Nobody to date has disagreed with me – The worse reaction I received it that they have just walked away from me without comment…
I think Canada and Immigration can be so much more for Canada and the world if only the top 5 banks, top auto dealers, insurance, hydro, the medical ‘industry’, Bell/Rogers/CRTC, CMHS-Media-Realtors association can be REWAMPED. It is NOT the 1970s anymore, Canada is huge, it has a lot of people, and a lot of people, including most Cacasians (look at America and Trump, Brexit, etc, the same goes here) are highly FRUSTRATED and DISSATISFIED with the ‘system’.
Ask yourself this ‘Why does Canada PAY the USA to buy our excess energy?’ now if the bank accounts in the USA that gets the payments, in fact belongs to Canadians, then that would make PERFECT sense wouldn’t it. I always say the following in my business/political activity ‘Replace stupidity with corruption and you will have the correct answer every time’!
HI
THANKS FOR THE REAL REFOECTION OF CANADA THE EXQUISITE BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY.
I AM NOT A POTENTIAL IMMIGRANT TO CANADA.BUT MY ONLY KID LEFT A GREAT OILFIELD JOB PAYING TAX FREE USD 15,000/ MONTH OF A DECADE TO SETTLE IN ONTARIO AS PR. HE GETS CAD 6000/MONTH AFTER TAXES. HIS WIFE, WHO STUDIED IN TORONTO, COERCED HIM TO DO SO. BUT SHE Is NOT GETTING A JOB AT ALL IN HR. THE JOB ITSELF IS OK FOR HIM IN THE SAME PROFESSION. HE IS NOW INTO SECOND YEAR AS PR. HE HAS A PROFESSIONAL LICENSE NOW. OWNS A HOME IN LONDON WITH 75% MORTGAGE.BUT HE TRAVELS FROM LONDON TO SARNIA EVERY DAY DRIVING CAR!
I WAS HANDLING OUR STOCK MARKET HOLDINGS OF OVER $3MN IN INDIA. DURING THE ONE YEAR, DUE TO TAX LAWS OF CANADA AND INDIA, ALL MY SON’S SHARES HAD TO SOLD AND TRANSFERRED TO CANADA TO SIMPLIFY CRA COMPLIANCE.
I AM NOW SHOCKED TO SEE THAT CANADA PENSION FUND IS VERY AGGRESSIVELY INVESTING IN INDIA IN WHAT I CLASSIFY AS ABSOLUTE GARBAGE. WITH MY FOUR DECADE EXPERTISE IN STOCKS IN INDIA, I SUSPECT CANADA PENSION, CANADA TEACHERS PENSION, ETC., ARE WASTING THE PRECIOUS SAVINGS OF CANADIAN CITIZENS IN ILL-ADVISED STOCKS OR INVESTMENTS.
I WILL BE IN LONDON ONTARIO CANADA FOR FOUR MONTHS FROM GOOD FRIDAY. I WILL BE PLEASED TO GIVE A STRATEGY FOR GENERALLY AVOIDING BLUNDERS WITH PUBLIC FUNDS.
ESSENTIALLY, A COUNTRY OUGHT TO INVEST LOCALLY IN STRONG CONTRIBUTORS TO ECONOMY, NEXT IN OTHER MARKETS WITH ONLY THE STRONGEST CONTRIBUTOR IN THAT COUNTRY. CORPORATE ETHICS MATTER MOST.
THANKS
Venugopalan,
Google ‘Canada bank bailout’. When the banks were bailed out the mortages were taken over by the CMHC. The CMHC used the CPP money (I believe) to fund the mortgage ‘bubble’. The Canadian housing market is OVERPRICED by over 300%, it is one huge bubble and when (not if) it MELTDOWNS (it crashed in 2008) the CPP is lost!!! Now you know why Canada is DEPARATE to make money in ANY MARKET, even in India – DESPARATE!!!
So true Dale and you can count me as one of the “immigrant FOOL”.
Hi Dale,
I am a new immigrant (less than a year), internationally trained specialist doctor. I have read many of your comments. I completely agree with almost everything what you have expressed.
Even though most of IMGs (international medical graduates) like me know the difficulties of getting into the Canadian system, we know the magnitude of the problem only after coming here. Like most of the immigrants, I went through newcomer orientation, ELT program and alternative career search workshops. I was surprised to find the nexus (understanding / link) between settlement agencies, colleges/universities and the employment sector.
I went through the settlement process for first six months. To be honest, there is not much progress than what was on the first day. We went through the resume, job search, cover letter, mock interview workshops. To be fair to the agency, they are very sincere in their efforts to educate us. However no one told me the exact usefulness of these in getting a meaningful job. Of course in my case, there is issue of transferable skills as most of our technical skills are regulated. And there is that talk of soft skills, effective communication and Canadian experience. I had applied for volunteer jobs in many hospitals. It’s a long process and I was told that they prefer younger volunteers to people in late forties.
After studying the licencing process to become a graduate here in Canada and knowing that only 5% can get a residency spot, I have always thought of an alternating career. I have applied for a couple of certification courses through Ontariocolleges.ca and hoping to get into the course in Sep 2017. It’s been more than one and a half year now and still not sure how exactly it will work out. After spending most of my savings, it is quite a tough task to feel everything is all right in the system. Nevertheless I will try my best and do the necessary courses and get a meaningful job and become a useful immigrant.
But who is going to change the situation? When will the system become honest enough in portraying the real situation and stop the skilled immigrants from coming and decaying here?
Hi Sonu P.,
Two nights ago I met a Polish family… they were also wondering of the problem fo why they are struggling, when I told them that a few familes own and control everything in Canada, the three political parties are really one big party, there is actually no independence between city, provincial and federal politicians they agreed with me, finally when I told them of the secret bank bailout of 2008 the man had tears in his eyes. They came to Canada in 2008.
As for doctors, I know people from my country who have come here and cleaned tolites, worked as gas pump attendents to become ‘canadian doctors’… what is the use? If I had to do menial jobs in Canada, I would go back ot my country and do it for my people.
If all who came here were able to realize that it would be honourable to work for your own people and left, then, ONLY THEN, will the problem solve.
I for one have told the above to all politicians I have come to contact with in Canada and also ‘poets, priests and prophets’.
Last week I met a politician whom I though was genuine, but that person too proved the same (stupid or corrupt or both)… so it is bye-bye Canada for me (at least I will NEVER vote here)… I would rather go back to my country and beg on the streets than live a lie in this dump!
So the problem is that the ones who come here DON’T TELL THE TRUTH to the home country! They prefer to live a BS life!
Hi Dale,
Thanks for your reply. Again, it is not about the people, but the system. Same issue since last few decades but magnified with the time. As I have seen in many forums, we cannot blame others for our plight. It is us who made the decision of coming to Canada.
We all agree that it is a great country with so many positive attributes. It is not an anger, frustration that we are commenting in these forums, but the genuine hope for a better future for us and next generation. As a friend once commented, it is a polite culture but not a kind one. We have to live with truth. Hoping to have a meaningful future here.
Sonu P
Sonu,
You are here only for one year? If you can go back please do so now, the longer you stay the more ‘imprisoned’ you get!
It doesn’t get better! Canada has cost me over $1.4million, $60+million in goodwill. None of my business partners wil invest any money with me as long as I am in Canada…
I am waiting for my Son to finish his (worthless) high school…
Is it true that in Canada if a female teacher strips completely naked in front of underaged students, the law enforcement cannot arrest her if she is not investigated for a sexual crime? Canada is one big joke if they have pushed the envelope with that pro-nudity rights agenda to underage people.
This urban legend came from the province of Ontario if you’re asking. The province where their highest appeal court struck down indecent exposure laws for a Caucasian feminist.
Because we live in a world where, depending on your race, skin colour, culture, social standing, sex, religion or whatever, we will be discriminated against! Ann yes there are thousands in my own family who have immigrated to Canada as professionals to be cleaning homes, drive taxi, work in factories, and some have upgraded their schooling and have gotten jobs and some have not. But we have been here 42 years and yes I have experienced discrimination, and also kindness. But I came here when I was 10. For those who come here when they are older, it’s harder. Today’s economy makes life harder and the rise in prices homes are impossible to buy with the income most people make.
Who said we will end up by driving cabs, working in taxi, and as security at that time Canada was difficult now its much easier to get a job,to settle
hello.. i am 45 yrs old n hav double master degre.. as i m of 45 yrs so no job fr me in india..i want to move to canada to settle down permanently..what i can do for this n what r option for me thete.. my hubby wl also move with me.. he is nt educated much so whts his chance??
Hello Sunita Soni.
Well I resigned from a central government job (scientist) in India and moved to Canada in 2014 along with my wife and kid. That’s my worst and immature decision in my life. I applied for nearly 60-70 jobs and finally got a job in my IT domain but they fired me with in 3 months. When I asked what is the reason they simply told its “termination without cause”. I applied for nearly 10 call center jobs and got one and they too fired after first 3 months. Then I learned python language on my own and I applied for nearly 30 jobs in that I got 3 interview calls and lost all three. My wife worked at a packaging company operating a machine and she constantly complained of hand and spine pain. I went to couple of general labour jobs, in some jobs I left that job in the middle of the day since it is bit heavy for me. My family friend works in Tim Hortons and complains of leg pain due to continuous standing. Finally in 2016 I decided to leave Canada as my financial resources got drained away and I was without any job and my wife worked in a packaging job constantly complaining spine pain. Moreover I didn’t go to Canada to do a general labour job or a call center job.
In Canada If you apply for more than 50 jobs then you will get one interview call and you may lose that interview and even though after you get that job you may get fired within 3 months.
My advice for you is if you have a decent paying job in your profession in India, please don’t go to Canada.
You can go for Canada if you have lots of contacts there (who promise you to put in job) or you have lot of money so that you can start a business on your own and settle there rather than applying for hundreds of jobs.
After coming to India, within a span of 6 months I got a job in engineering college as a lecturer paying me 45k and then also landed in a government job paying me 85k (as per 7th pay commission) and I am happily settled here.
Immigrants who went to Canada in post 2010 didn’t settle well but whereas people who went long back in 1980’s and 90’s perfectly settled well. I completely agree with author for 100% about his article.
K Arvind,
Congratulations on being a wise man and going back!
The only problem with your comment is that you recommend to start a business. That also WONT WORK! Who are you going to sell to? The only bet is a Gas Bar or Convenience (Grocery) store – but is that investment worth it? I would say no…
It’s because Canada is about to legalise Marijuana that’s the reason everyone is running behind the same…
D Das – “Racism is invited most of the time. If you’re a well mannered, educated & well spoken person why on earth would another educated individual humiliate you racially”
Well, I have lived in the UK for 18 years and never encountered racism personally and whenever some of my colleagues whine about racism, I usually find something else there. However, having said that – your comments are not true. Racism most of the time is not invited. Racism is a product of ignorance, frustration, hate and envy and it is not “invited” most of the time, although that can rarely sometimes happen. A good example is that of Anuj Bidve. I am sure you can find dozens of examples yourself. Whilst I hate immigrants picking up the racist card as an excuse for their own shortcomings, I also hate immigrants casually ignoring racism as “a product of your own bad behaviour”. Both are not true.
Your next statement – “If you’re a well mannered, educated & well spoken person why on earth would another educated individual humiliate you racially” – Wow. I get the feeling you are incredible naive. This is not meant as a criticism. Just an observation. You do not have to be ill-mannered, uneducated and lacking in vocabulary for someone to be racist towards you. You can be the most well mannered, educated and “well spoken” (like as if that is kind of qualification) and still encounter vicious racism if you happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
And by asking “Why on Earth would another educated individual humiliate you” raises several questions again! What makes you think another educated individual will not humiliate you because you are educated and well mannered and well spoken? A huge portion of racism happens in corporate or government offices from highly educated individuals. The Metropolitan Police responsible for the Greater London area is just one example which has had several high profile racism cases sued and proved. Also, how did you ignore the fact that there could be ignorant uneducated people who could still humiliate you?
I do not mind whatever your opinions and views are but your view that once you cross the threshold of being ignorant, uncultured, uneducated and move on to become “decent, educated, well-spoken and well-mannered” you are no longer the target of racism is completely flawed and it is also an insult to the thousands of decent, educated and well-spoken people who have been the victims of racism as your view then discounts their traumatic experiences as their own fault.
Nice Blog! Engineers earn well in Canada. Even a fresher earns a good income in Canada. Mining engineer having an experience of 1-3 years can earn up to $91,000. Mining engineers are the most paid among all the engineering discipline.
My brother who has approach a agent here in India wants to come on open work Visa , could you please suggest on the same .
Currenly he is not having any degree in Hand but agent assured him of a JOB in Canada
Your post is very relevant for the middle age people who are on threshold of getting off the peak on career life. Realistic and practical sense will prevail. No point in competing with young graduates for same position and keep chasing wild goose.
You are privileged in a country of birth and enjoy those benefits as a citizen. In these days of tough economy and isolated families all the hard earned savings is a bliss. Enjoy it !!
Canada is good only for low level workers and few IT and Medical professionals. This country has got no culture of its own. People are unfriendly and never engage in good conversations. The youth is uneducated, unemployed, and irresponsible. God bless Canada!
Actually posts like these tell the entire story, it’s all there, except the details are usually experienced first hand for many of us miserable people. I never got a decent job there and even if I did, the lack of culture and the winter would have driven me away. The culture by far, for me.
Canada is a dream country for millions of Immigrants, Refugees and International students.
Some of these people coming to Canada may be able to survive the cold winter, if they didn’t run away from it.
Refugees are highly protected under the immigration law, they are paid $$ by the government and thus their future is still dependent on whether they will be going back home soon or if they find ways to stay in Canada forever. According to the street talks, these refugees work on cash jobs and make double the income. More than a local Canadian would make.
Immigrants on express visa. After you sort out where you want to live, (most probably in GTA – Greater Toronto Area) you are now in a long line of jobs that are either at factories and shops and super markets. If you are not bringing any unique skill, you will struggle forever and live most of your life under $20/hour. This will be enough for you to rent an apartment and pay for groceries. An average house in GTA is about $700,000. You will need minimum of 20% down payment to even qualify for a mortgage. If you are outside GTA, there are high chances that you will experience discrimination, racism etc. It is but normal for the locals to feel xenophobic as you will be ready to do a given job for less than what they would. Plus you are now flooding the job market with the qualifications that are hardly recognised here. The first question you will be asked here by an employer is “DO YOU HAVE ANY CANADIAN EXPERIENCE” ? Well if no body gives you a job, how would you get that Canadian experience. Regardless, we do need some PhD and Engineers from other countries to sell us coffee at Tim Hortons.
International students, you are coming to Canada with only one intention. Permanent Residence. Even the ministry / government knows that. Why do you think they keep on opening “fast PR if you stay in Yukon and Manitoba” kind of schemes? There is labour scarcity in these areas. So if you are OK moving in these areas that are mostly -40 in winter, you will be able to survive here, again if you can survive that winter. Do not fall for any trap laid by any of the Indian agents, or agents of various colleges in India. There are programs designed, created especially for International students and the whole class is made of International students. Do you think these courses are market driven? Is there enough demand for you when you complete your studies? Promises made about giving you scholarships are only $100-$200 / year as a bait to bring you here . An average International student pays over 4 times fees of a local student. i:e a community college diploma program will charge you about $15000 fees, about $400 for rent, if you still have money and you decide to eat healthy food, you will need at least $200/month for groceries. Hydro (electric+water), Internet, etc will cost you about $200pm. School activities might cost you another $100. And dare you get any bad habits here. A pack of cigarette will cost you $10. So do your math on how much you will be paying to get your 3 years diploma.
Market talk again, an average international student is employed way under the minimum wage ($10.40 per hour), do not dream of making a fortune by working in Canada, and think you will earn enough to send money back home, pay your fees and have lots of fun. That iphone that you dream of will cost you a minimum contract of $70/month.
Overall, its not bad here, if you know what you going to bring to the country. But free loaders, chance takers and bringing skills that are not required in Canada will only create misery and stress for you.
A ridiculous article. Whether you took a decision to leave “the warmth” of India or “the bug” of Canada or even the addictive materialism and glamour of Dubai only you are responsible for the choices you make in life… and if you feel it has been a fruit less venture, only you are to blame! Stop feeling sorry for yourself and become wiser!
Maybe the time will come when someone will say the same to you after the worst devastation of your life. I mean, you’re just begging for a bad dose of karma there.
Hii,
Can any expert from Canada tell me about primary education, as my kid is in nursery (Cambridge board) and my family (me, wife and 4 year kid) have received province nomination from Saskatchewan, by my profession i am marketing manager and my wife is a chef. And want to ask some questions related to migration.
1.Pros and cons of living in Saskatchewan (Saskatoon or regina or prince albert)
2.Education standards (comparing with Indian international schools with canadian public schools).
3.Is it better to migrate in Canada if someone is earning Rs 50,000 (about $1,000) in India after all expenses?
Wow!!! This article and the comments have been a serious eye opener. I’ve been thinking of immigrating to Canada for some time under the self employed category. I have my business and clients already and would continue working with them when I move to Canada. A lot of what I do is also online so as long as I have my laptop and Internet, I’m good. I’ve been running my business for 2 years now. The purpose of looking at Canada is for a permanent location in the long term as where I am now doesn’t offer that prospect. By the way, I’m 39, single and don’t have kids. Still researching this…..lots to think about….for the moment, thinking of paying a 2 week visit sometime soon to get a feel of the place and see if it’s somewhere I can see myself long term before I start plunging all my hard earned money into this..
Hi,
We are from SA as you all know by now this place is no place you want your kids to grow up. My husband thinks it would be better to migrate to Canada. We are white South Africans and just cant find work here. My husband does Appliance Repairs such as fridges, stoves, washing machines tv’s and so. Do you guys think that we can survive in Canada or will we make a mistake ?
Ella, I know a lots of South African people here. If your husband has qualification in such jobs, he will definitely survive. Skills like technicians, appliances repairs are always in demand. Good Luck !
Desi Mfundisi
Hello Ella,
You touched a key point in order to get a job in your filed in Canada; race. You mentioned you’re white, I’m guessing english is your 1st language, that’s all you need. You and your husband will get jobs in Canada, in your field and you will be welcomed by your fellow anglo-Canadians.
You probably mentioned race in a casual manner with no racist intentions, just for the sake of clarifying. Unfortunately, this piece of information is probably the most important in a country with rampant racism where being Anglo grants you all kinds of privileges above all non-whites.
By the way, I’m a Canadian citizen that lived in Canada for 13 years; I know!
If you’re escaping because you’re white, then be aware that Canada is easily the most liberal nation on earth. Too liberal for me, just like SA is probably too racist for non-white people like me.
I totally agree with the author. I moved to Canada for a better life, away from pollution, traffic, crime, and chaos. The first few weeks were amazing. It’s a beautiful place. But as soon as you enter the reality, you start to feel that you are at the wrong place. There are only menial jobs available other than those who are from the IT sector.
I worked at warehouses and retail stores but felt that I cannot do this whole life. I was alone and depressed. Canada is a cold place with cold people. It’s hard to make friends how if you come all alone.
Finally, I came back to my home country and still recovering from stress and anxiety even after a month.
I really wish nobody else faces the same problem again.
Trust me, Canada is NOT a good place for well educated foreigners.
Go there only if you are a refugee or uneducated.
Hi, I am graduated Civil Engineer and have a decent experience of 10 years (Working as Construction QC Manager) with international companies. My wife have Canada PR and also have applied for me to settled in Canada. I am not sure whether it would be a good decision for me to shift to Canada or not, as per Job prospective.
Hi ,
I am also looking job in Canada. Currently I work in Public accounting Firm for 2.5 years in India and looking for jobs in Public accounting or banking. Is it really worth shifting to Canada. will i get a job in similar domain in Canada and will pay be good
Please Advise.
NO!
I have read this article a couple of times one when I was applying for canadian immigration, second when I came here and now again after spending 3 months in canada. One has to see his or her priorities right before u make such a decision. And then the second thing you have to keep in mind is that why you want to come here? Is it for the Luxuries or a good quality life. I mean, you can have Luxuries in your home country but canada can give you a good quality life but yes it is a tough road. Forget about your work experience, education and profession once you reach here. And to start your career in the Maple land there are no shortcuts you have to start like a teenager, start with entry level jobs and gain the Canadian experience. One has to come prepared. That’s the reality . But as the writer says it’s not that bad. One has to be tough to and know the reality.
Hi
Hi guys am from India ( 26y old ) presently working in the gulf but started my immigration process with consultancy for canada and my profession belongs to constructions n i got positive response for my credential assessment from WES as bachelors of engineering.
1) Do i get the job immediately from my home country in canada.
2) do i need to do suicide jobs like filling station or in hotel servant.
3) does construction business is in boom compare to gulf.
4) does it fools paradise like other say you will be given entry based on qualification but you wont find job immediately.
am middle class guy i don’t have much savings with me presently to survive without job.
Suicide Jobs?! – Thats called Survival Jobs :).
1) – No. 2). Yes 3) No 4) Yes – as you already applied for it.
I’m a Pre sales consultant with 8 yrs of Work experience into IT and Banking.I have done Post Graduate Diploma in Management (PGDM).What are the prospects in Canada for my credentials & how soon can one expect to get a PR?
What kind of salaries can I expect in Canada?
Note: I’m into Analytics,cloud,mobility and SAAS.
Could you please have a look at Glassdoor.com / Payscale.com to answer your salary question? I’m curious as much as you are. I read through this blog and it seems to have an overly negative sentiment on the subject matter of migrating to Canada. Recently, about a couple of weeks back I checked with my friend who is working in Canada as a Business Analyst and he had a positive story to share. Its all about our perspectives and experiences in the ground level that matter, rest are just personalised stories.
P.S: I am an Indian citizen, who has studied and worked in the UK too. I am currently working for a high tech firm in Cloud Computing field, previously I have worked for a Big 4 Company too.
Your profession is not a regulated one, so you can start your job hunt from day one. Getting a first job is a tough task, you have to spend all your time in making fitting resumes to sell you. You can expect a min salary of 55-60K and goes up to 110K(highest).
The author is talking bout only three to four years my husband is here from past 10 to 12 years and jus 5 years ago he got into a job of his own field n tat too bcoz my husband is in the IT field… Yes there’s a lot of luck depending oer here…. If u r lucky and keep updating urself then ther r chances but I’ve seen ppl who r here from 15 to 18 years but still are doin th labor jobs…. Canadian dollar gives tat shine in th eyes yes education is free till high school benefit… If u r on contract jobs n laid off the govt pays EI till u get another job… But if the job is permanent then u r gone for a toss…. High level jobs r very very very stressful … If u wanna study come here on a students visa study n go back… Yes it’s a fools paradise but I bet poor immigrants don come here to see Niagara Falls but to Make some moola… Taxes suck the blood out of u even if it was buying a tether for ur child… Children above the age of 8 already know wat is sex and how to use condoms… All bout different positions which is a very sad state of affairs… Sometimes hate crimes happen… I c my husband struggling keeping awake for night shifts jus bcoz soriye else dzn take it and his job gets into danger… Yea mortgage is hell breaking loose on u once u buy a house vitout the knowledge of the land value goin up in a few years time or coming down… At times I am sad depressed due to climate in winters and snow… Feels like we’ve not seen the sun for ages too many bone probs Coz of the cold here.. Summer comes jus for kissing th land for 3 n a half months…all in all m jus here bcoz thankfully my husband is having a good job so far which is again very very stressful but my man tries to meet ends poor soul… Wen in Dubai u jus go n buy a LV handbag here u have to wait for sales since everything is damn expensive… Another benefit ur children will speak beautiful English… I miss my parents my siblings… If anything happens in India it takes two days for me to only reach there…. But my bro n sis can travel to India in every weekend…. No involvement in joys no involvement in sorrows back in India… Miss huge fun functions and sometimes months pass by jus seeing my parents faces but thanks to what’s app and skype… I never tell all tis in front of my hubby so tat he dzn feel bad as he loves tis country ( dunno for wat reason)…. But yes u either come herewith loads of money n open a dollar store or a super store or u come here and and keep doing all kindsa certifications on which if u r lucky u might get a nice job else u end up working in Tim Hortons… Another benefit u get to c 4 complete seasons in tis beautiful scenic land.. It’s breathtaking…. Leave the job n money part aside Canada is a very very green land with loads of scenic places to visit…. If u had migrated back in the 80s or early 90s then u r a king by now but lately it has been a frozen wasteland… Soon I’ll b getting my passport like my two children n my husband… I will b a proud Canadian after tat Coz u shud love the place which feeds u even a penny…
Hello,
I am a fashion design graduate from India (Age 30 – Married) & working as a Visual Merchandising manager in Dubai,UAE since Feb 2015, I have overall 9 years of experience in Retail (Visual Merchandising). Now I am planning to start my migration process which will be completed in Dec 2017, my question is from all the respected people here to help me & suggest that will it be good call to move to CANADA at this point & if yes which City, Province i should migrate so that i can get a similar job in Retail Visual Merchandising. I want to move with my wife & she is currently house wife but also worked as a Visual Merchandiser for 4 years in India & currently working from home based in Dubai.
Please also if you can suggest the approx. cost will be incurred initially to get settle down in that City, Province I should move to.
Looking forward to here from many of you, which will be very helpful for me to reinforce my decision of moving & settled in CANADA.
How can i get lower entry level job or any labor job or unskilled job in Canada. I am 23 years old. Live in Mumbai, India. I just have High school equivalent education. I’m literally ready to any kind of lower profile job. It doesn’t matter to me what kind of job it is. I am just ready to do it. Its been my dream to move in Canada and earn a few bucks. That’s it. Will it be possible ??? Could i really move in Canada with no higher education Background.
Shrikant! You miss a vital requirement to perform low level jobs – Higher Education!
Sorry, you cant become a Pizza delivery person, and hence cant enter Canada
i have finished my mechanical engineering and i have 4 years experience in automobile technical section in INDIA. Presently i am working in OMAN, i wish to migrate to CANADA as it was my dream. can any body give me right advise.
No Canadian experience + No Canadian education = No Job. Without Canadian experience you can’t get a job, without a job you can’t get Canadian experience. So its a vicious circle and Catch 22 situation. Surprisingly when they want to use you for low level survival jobs, they don’t ask for Canadian experience..hmmm, why is that ? So only for a good job they want Canadian experience, so immigrants can remain at a low level.
Canada is a white woman’s country.
Men who lived in “Patriarchial” societies which are now becoming to become destroyed in the name of “human rights” will find out what a living hell Canada is for men.
Toronto is already known to be a very expensive city where fathers end up as prisoners in their own cramped up apartment in a crime ridden area, because he will find out that the white woman in Canada taught his wife to become an enemy of her own family and children in the name of supporting the Canadian system.
The more women who divorce their husbands and abuse their children reap a net positive for Canadian. It means more demand for housing, malls, lawyers, teachers, childcare workers, but those jobs aren’t for immigrants with their Phds from Harvard, those jobs are given to Canadians who either bribed their way to earn a high school diploma, or they received the job because of nepotism and cronyism which many immigrants fled their home countries to avoid, expecting that Canada would offer fair opportunities for immigrant.
@Alok, what Narendra said is true, Indian people of your caliber should migrate to the US or Canada to further contribute to those regions, and I have lots of Indian friends who already proved they did just that worldwide, especially the Indian adult males who really take care of their own Indian women’s well beings and look after the kids in the family, as opposed to what the media always painted on the Indian guys as drunken emotional faggots who abuse & steal from women & kids etc etc.
Gosh I don;t know how many people are living in the India continent, maybe 2 Billion, and they are all very super smart and socially responsible beings, and true to what @Narendra have said, if all the Indians moved to America where they are most welcome just like the black Africans, India’s corrupt system will be solved overnight right away. Canada is a corrupt-free nation, and if the mass immigration from the India continent do take place tomorrow, Canada will be even cleaner the day after, and a pure white-as-snow happy nation shall endure.
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I had a bad experience with Canadian tax system. I was charged several thousands by TFSA unit for a mistake on their side. After several months of corresponding with them I still have not got a refund. I even pay taxes from my rental income in my home country, but there is no appreciation. They dont correspond by mail, they just talk over the phone. I never had a problem with wrong assessment even in a third world country. When CRA takes the money from you, they do it immediately. But it is so hard to get it back even after several months. The system of CRA is one sided and they procrastinate a lot if they owe you. To approach tax court is expensive and time consuming. Atleast IRS is easier to contact and they are fair. This can cause a lot of stress in your life, in addition to finding job. Their phone help line is not so helpful, they dont send documents related to your case. It is a nightmare!
Just be grateful you have a Canadian passport now and whole world is open to you ! be thankful you even entered Canada .. I have been trying for years now with no luck, and with fear of being deported back to my war zone country every day !! its a terrifying unsettled life and I wish it to no one ! reading your topic made me laugh with pain ! you should appreciate that you have a country no that won’t kick you out any second and deport you back to hell. Pray for me !
Sara, can you please tell us which war-zone country are you from? Because your IP address shows your region/country as Puerto Rico which is unincorporated US territory. How does Puerto Rico become a war zone?
Wow, thanks for outing all these impostors! It just goes to show that people are not necessarily who they claim to be online. Sara is probably a paid Canadian government shill, there are many of them all over the internet especially on Canadian immigration forums or related websites.
Amazing isn’t it …? Either that or a crazed, misguided Canadian who likes to wave the flag alot.
If you come as a refugee from a real war zone with no where else to go Canada may have some appeal, for anyone coming from any first world country (especially Europe) not so much….by the way Canada play its part (i.e. (arm sales) in the destabilization of the middle east contributing to the creation of war zones.
I totally agree with the OP, Canada is a fool’s paradise, spent 3 years there, left as soon as I could and never looked back…I count my lucky stars holding my European and US passports
Sara just apply to the U.S then go to the Canadian borders and i am sure they will accept your case,that’s the beauty of Canada!
What use is having a Canadian passport if you can’t afford a simple plane ticket for a vacation, or even a one-way flight back to one’s home country after wasting thousands of dollars in Canada upon arrival into the land of false hopes and promises?
I am an Asian who has arrived in Canada in the beginning of this year. I am 32 years old male. I have MBA from Chicago Booth and CFA. I have worked at highly prestigious international firms in Europe and UK – PWC, BCG and Deutsche Bank. My English is fluent. And yet I have been totally unable to get any job offers in Toronto and will be soon moving back to my home country.
Before coming to Canada I knew all those horror stories about poor immigrants not being able to find good jobs in Canada. But I thought the same would not happen to me because I had all the credentials. BIG MISTAKE!
I have the credentials: Chicago MBA and CFA, work experience at PWC and BCG, etc but they did not help me in the least! I am better qualified than most my Canadian born peers but it does not matter.
I applied to senior roles at big banks, publicly traded companies, and consulting firms. I got no replies. Ok, I thought, I have no “Canadian experience”, so maybe I need to take a step or two down. No problem, I thought, I am prepared to pay the price for the opportunity to start a new life in such wonderful country.
So I started applying to some roles for which I was overqualified. I got some interview invites. And what did they tell me in the end? “You are too accomplished, too experienced, you are too good for us! You deserve better, good luck!”
Seriously. One well-meaning hiring manager spent half an hour telling me that I would easily find a senior position if I applied here and there. I could not tell him that the best position I was able to get an interview invitation for in many months was this position that he denied me for being “overqualified”.
When I read articles such as this one in the past, I was alwayes surprised by the level of resentment in the comments. I often found this phrase repeated many times by different people: “coming to Canada was the worst decision in my life”.
But now I understand. I can say it with 100% certainty: coming to Canada was the worst decision in my life. I have wasted almost a year of my life. I have wasted all my life savings (I have a wife and two children and we spent a lot of money in Toronto because we maintained the lifestyle that we are used to).
I am sorry to say this. I don’t have any hard feelings about Canadians. Canadians are very nice people. I fell in love with Canada. I love the infrastructure, I love people, I love Toronto, I love healthcare and education here. But something is very wrong with the Canada’s immigration system.
I have two explanations. Number one: Canada’s economy is too small. Canada looks big on a map but it is a small country. Smaller than Ukraine or Poland. And its economy is based on natural resources rather than hi tech or manufacturing. The economy just does not generate enough high paying jobs for all high-skilled immigrants who come here very year.
Number two: there is less meritocracy here than for example in the US. In the US if you know your stuff well you will be appreciated no matter your skin color or where you were born. Not so in Canada. In Canada you have to have “Canadian experience”. How many major Canadian companies do you know that are managed by minority CEOs? I know none. Compare this with the US where scores and scores of major corporations across all industries have foreign born CEOs.
I like Canada. But I am full of deep resentment about this country. This experience has been very painful for me. I feel like I was deceived and betrayed.
This comment might end up saving me a fortune and loads of misery so god bless you. I am the same age as you with similar qualifications and experience but only in a different industry. Even our family sizes are similar.
Some 6 months back I decided to immigrate to Canada or NZ. Soon after, I realized I would have enough points to get accepted. In fact, in NZ, I would get auto selected. So about two months ago, I started applying for jobs. So far, I have not had one interview. In most cases, my applications are simply ignored. Mind you, these are for positions that I have been working in for the past 6 years.
I started doubting myself until I applied elsewhere like the US, UK and Dubai. The bottom line is, I am not convinced I will no longer even consider emigrating to these countries unless I have a job offer.
I don’t fully agree with your assessment of why things are so bad but I don’t think I know the answers myself. All I do know is the shortage of skilled workers in all the different industries and categories are misleading. If there was a shortage, why I never get shortlisted with them but other countries without a shortage interview me.
Obviously I spent some money on the paper work, but nothing compared to losing all your savings. I wish the best for your future.
I am from NZ and have been here for the last 16 years or so… I would say when you come overseas please do not bring your exp. here..
NZ is not US so don’t compare..they want people with exp. in nz as people here want people like them… the reason why they ask for qualification is to make sure they get good applicants.. remember its not them asking you to come .. you are coming at you own will with a myth that education/health infrastructure and such services are free….NO ITS NOT..ALL THIS MONEY COMES OUT OF YOUR POCKET ITS TAKE AWAY BEFORE EVEN YOU GET IT… Asian countries are not used to it as they don’t pay their fair share or it doesn’t go for the development of the country.. here it does..so you see good parks/toilets/houses/roads..hospitals etc….
Again if you are skilled healthcare/doctor/construction/electrical/plumber with NZ license you don’t need much of communication… and you can make good money
All industries are protected here for locals first then for migrants which I feel is the right way and its same it any country you go.
Even in US its the same story…. remember that US migrants are 3/4th generation and NZ only have 1st generation migrants.. so the struggle will be there…
Again NZ has made their immigration tighter as they don’t want more migrants here as house prices have soured to a million here…..
Can you please advise why despite studying in Chicago business school you could not get visa to work in USA and could have led to a a green card?
Attention Rafael
Can you please advise why despite studying in Chicago business school you could not get visa to work in USA and could have led to a a green card?
Totally agree with you I have lot`s resentment coming to Canada and I gave to many years to this country which is full of empty promises.
Today also even have a job here is not enough to afford a good life because the expensive rent and price apartment of the property !!
Many professional people are leaving the country and the Propaganda of Canada is more visible than ever. In Italy next October 16th there will be a meeting at the Canadian consulate to encourage professional to come and work to Canada !!! I know many people with P.H.D because they did not study in Canada after the Canadian Embassy give points for the P.H.D …..well they end up to drive e Taxi !!?? Personally after 16 years I am going back to Europe and yes coming to Canada was not a big mistake for me because I worked in my field but I should not stay here so long that`s was a big mistake ! PS. Healt care and education is a sucks compared to Europe !
God bless you for speaking out Rafael; if most of the immigrants to Canada with your qualifications (or similar) and work experience who ended up having the same negative experience or worse as you had, would speak out, it would go a long way in stopping the brain drain from so many poor and middle income countries into Canada.
What are the scopes in the health care industry in Canada? Should I think about shifting my focus from law jobs to health jobs? Which field gives you a better scope with a handsome salary among these two? Thank you
Oh Please. I immigrated to Canada 14 years ago and found a job in my field within 6 months and rose in my field where today we are well settled even though we live in one of the most expensive cities in the world (Vancouver). Yes moving to another country requires you to make adjustments when I came here I was prepared to take a couple of steps down and start afresh in my field. From your article, it sounds like you did no research at all before coming to this country. How is it that you didn’t realise you would have to reinforce your teaching license? How is it you didn’t read up on the education industry in Canada? For someone in the education field, that’s a serious flaw.
I came from India and I took my struggle as a challenge and a way to prove to myself.
Canada is a fool’s paradise for the ill prepared and for the entitled.
its really foolish of you to call thousands and thousands of well educated and well qualified immigrants, who have the exact same experience as the author ill prepared and entitled. Just because someone like you lucked out in your profession, doesn’t mean other immigrants will too.
you should see the racist stuff that is said behind your back. You must have kissed the White man’s ass big time to get a job in your so called field.
Very well said, Raj!
Why do you have to be so harsh on everyone Raj? You ain’t polite even if the other person is, maybe that’s the reason you couldn’t do well.
Raj, I suggest you move out from Canada if you are still in Canada. You must be living a very miserable life there based on all your comments. Go back to your home country. Canada didn’t force anyone to migrate. It is everyone’s decision after doing research and making sure they are equip, ok, maybe not with matched education but at least the right attitude and positivity to succeed.
Hi,
I am a Doctor (MBBS) from Bangladesh and am Studing MSc Public Health in the UK. I worked in my country for 2 years as a medical officer in a NGO health service delivery project before coming here in the UK. My visa will be expired after one day of my study completion. In the meantime, I have started the processing for submitting application for Canadian immigration under federal skilled categories. My question is, should it be the right choice for me and is it possible to get job in public health field?
You have to get a registration first …. till then you could work as health care assistant
I can relate to the author. I immigrated long time ago (1991) but I think the basics is still there. They always require 2 things: Canadian education equivalent, 2) Canadian experience. How to implement those makes the difference. But some guys have the luck so there will be comparison and resentments. Best of luck to the author. I hope your luck is just delayed and you will have it soon.
One more thing I wanted to ask.Is there any scope in the law firm or law jobs.I am currently pursuing political science honours from Calcutta university. Is it very difficult to get a law job their if one pursue the associate degree of legal administrative community college in Canada?Please I need your opinions and suggestions .Thank you 🙂
Hello I am an Indian.My family is planning to move to Canada.After reading all this I need to rethink about my moving to Canada.I am not very sure about it.Please can someone suggest something?My sister is already working in a bank in Delhi and I am pursuing my graduation course.We have a good life here. Should I really rethink about moving to Canada? Cause I don’t want such a life. Please can someone answer me?
Hi dear,
If you have a good life back in your home country then no point moving to any other place. Remember .. All the glitter is not gold. My daughter went to study in Canada and we were happy that she will get a PR along her studies. But she missed every single day her home country only because she had really good and comfortable life here. Now she’s so stressed and depressed that she’s leaving her studies in between and coming back to home. As a parent, I have no choice welcoming her back although spent lakhs of money. But the happiness and life is always chosen above any luxury.
Good luck to you !!
I am 35 years old and working as a Manager in a Customer Care. Is it a wise decision to move to Canada. I am ready to start my career from the scratch but how is the market for customer service and do they take Indians if they are willing to join as a team leader or agent.
Planning to move in alone and after Indians a job planning to take my 4 year son and my husband along.
Please let me know your suggestions n opinion since I need to decide basis your comments.
If you are willing to do anything and not complain, then go ahead. If anyone moving to Canada is willing to do anything to survive and not complain, he or she will survive. Now whether it will be a wise decision depends on many things. One, if you are doing fine currently, then you should be careful about taking any decision. Two, you must be ready to do odd jobs before you could possibly find a job in your field. Third, people should think hard when they think of migrating to another country after the age of 35.
do not come here alone. you will be sad and depressed. bring your husband to suffer with you.
No offence to anyone But different people have different views.
I moved here in 2010 from India. Me and my wife. Both my kids are born here. Getting a job in starting was a little tough bcz they look for Canadian ecperience. At some points it is right too bcz the countries we come from and here, tge work culture is quite different which I have experienced. We people do not have excellent customer service and team skills. We are more individuality oriented people. So that needs to be improved. Doctors, teachers etc… I have seen the difference… Ofcourse Canada will prefer who are educated here first. Our backhome teaching and med standards dont match here… I mean Doctors and teachers attitude… Here we all are equal. Doctors dont treat you like shit. But all fungers are not same. People who adapt work culture here, i have seen them coming into their profession after qualifying.
Also depends in which province you move to. A proper home work is required before moving. I came here with barely 10k$ in my pocket. Was ready to start from zero. Today i am financially well stable in 6 years. Kids are going to good schools. Its true that life is hard but ehh… Was it so easy back home? If it was then those people have luxuries, positions, money and servents… Dont need to move here, specially when you are 45+ in age. You wont be able to adjust here. Youngsters compariyively adapt culture and new place faster. They have enthusiasm and zeal to do hard work.
This country is for hardworking and ready to do anything kind of people. Today many people are thinking of leaving earth and preparing for Mars… So it is ur own choice… Be ready to adapt to new world or stay whereever you are. Blaming a country is wrong.
Cheers
Anything is better than back home eh? Your English hasn’t improved much so you prove the point about the shit schooling back hom
I’m sorry your Canadian experience hasn’t been good. I’m going to make a guess, that you settled in Toronto, or possibly Montreal? Certainly one of Canada’s larger cities. Canada is ENORMOUS. (second biggest in the world, 2nd only to Russia) 90% of the people live along the American border and the other 10% are scattered across 90% of the country, and I am of the latter group. If you would get out of that southern area/big city, you would likely do much better. There are many small cities and towns in the middle and the north that need good, industrious people. Those with plans and ideas and some money to get started. The farther north you go the more this is true. And also, the farther north, the more welcoming people are of immigrants, especially those that are willing to work hard. I know plenty of people with the name of Singh and Sidhu that have become rich and successful.
Hi,
I am originally from India but i work in Dubai. I work in a MNC as a Business Development Manager here and the job pays me quite well. I am here in Dubai since past 5 years. I am now thinking to apply for migrating to Canada as no matter how many years i work here in UAE, one day i would have to go back to India. I forgot to mention i am 27 years old and not married. Please suggest is it a good decision to migrate to canada.
You are young so go for it ..although I am not in Canada but in NZ…. 🙂
Bloody hell man we Indians even reached NZ. Stop posting here go help Indian invade NZ. Ill help them invade Canada I am in Toronto.
go for it. Take citizenship and then go back, to Dubai or US. Otherwise the prime of your life will be wasted here.
Hi all, I’m into accounts and finance. What are the prospects in Canada.
You are mot very bright for being “in accounts and finance” are you? Wherever there are civilized humans, there are accountants. So everywhere.
Stay in India. Indians like you make all Indians look bad.
I am 52 years working in a government engineering company . I am an engineer by qualification and have been working for 30 years now . However I had a dream of living in Canada for many years which I want to realise now by migrating . Will life be very tough for me? Will I be able to land a sustainable job ? At present I am in upper rank of my company. Is it a wise decision to do so?
Too old. Not enough points. I doubt your dream will become a reality. Why don’t you want to retire and die in India?
Hey all ! One thing is for sure, no country builds your dream…why should it ?? it’s your dream you work for it and believe in it so it happens. I live in Ontario and every ON driving license plate has a message for you ” yours to discover” you may be living here for years but did not catch this simple message. You make your own paradise. Keep the faith. There is no shortcut to success!! God bless Canada
Hi Sunny
I absolutely agree. There are opportunities but they are not going to land in your lap. Make your own future with your own hard work.
I am an immigrant who landed in Canada some 4 months back (2016). Whether i was plain lucky or I am talented doesnt matter, but frankly I got my first Full time job in my very own profession in about 1 and half month (45 days). Canada is a largely regulated country and we need to understand that half of the most common professions here need a license. This is good to maintain quality. However, those of us who land here without caring about the license requirement end up spending a long time getting them. As an example, I recently met an MBBS doctor who said that his license takes up to 2 years. Point is, Canada has people coming from so many countries that the government doesnt give you permissions to perform critical professions (health, etc) without you convincing them that you are up to their mark. My profession is non regulated (I am into marketing and nobody dies if I make mistakes – so I dont need a license). Also, we need to understand that canada doesnt have a population as much as India. so professions and their responsibilities wont be as segregated as we have in india. As an example, an Indian HR recruiter will only be a recruiter in india. but in canada, due to lack of people, he will have additional responsibilities. If he or she is prepared to take up that, he will be a good prospect.
If you are coming to canada you MUST be open to be flexible with your roles.
And heres what you get in Canada:
1. Extremely good work life balance (more family and personal time – people work for their life, they dont live for a job )
2. Medical health, safety and schooling is taken care by the government (overall the government is like your parent – they try to ensure that you live happily)
3. Everything in the city is designed for senior citizen and differently abled. (all footpaths have a slope, every staircase has an alternative arrangement)
Whats not so cool:
1. Taxation(takes a toll – usually 20-30%)
2. People may find it slower than an Indian set up(own sweet time..!)
3. No manual intervention in many cases (we asians are used to get everything done by people and rely lesser o automation – in some cases, there are absolutely no people to help you, eg: parking lot – you have to park at the right place and ensure it doesnt offend others .. but no one will tell you whats right and whats wrong).
Hi, Ameya. Your article is very inspiring and motivating. I am looking forward to move to Canada. I am also a marketing professional in India. Your story is great and your analysis is absolutely perfect. Can I seek your guidance while moving to Canada and how to make myself prepare for this career and location transition?
Cheers
K
She is lucky or pretty. You look pretty ordinary so don’t get too excited and plan well.
On a side note, all educated Indians have left or are leaving India. Even bloody war torn Yemen has Indians. No wonder our current Prime Minister used to be a toilet cleaner.
Why can’t taxation be so cool…. all the money that you pay towards you taxes goes towards your medical/schooling/roads… for the same things that you have mentioned in pros….
what you see there is your money… so take care of it 🙂
Hi Ameya,
Thank you for your article!
I felt very good reading it. It is very positive and realistic. You made my day. Now I too can look forward to immigrate to Canada in the future.
Amya, you painted the picture quite well but missed a vital point in what you get in Canada – Social security after a certain age, till death. People from Dubai or India aren’t very much aware of this as social security doesn’t exist there. This is quite a significant benefit, in my opinion.
Hi. If u could share ur email ID it would be great to speak to u & understand the scenerio better. Have been landing to move out from India, but family has not yet agreed due to external influence.
Ameya, you are blessed. so many negative experiences recorded here by other immigrants who didn’t succeed like you did.
I am 54 yrs working as an Executive Secy in an IT Firm, settled in Mumbai.
I have contacted one Consultant for immigration. she said i will get no points for age.
Was wondering if its worth pursuing this matter. actually the consultant doesnt do a free assessment. have to pay 1100 INR online and then they assess your eligibility. the amount is not much, but bigger question? what opportunities are available in this line of work and if i ll be able to adapt to a whole new country, esp one where the climate is so cold, vastly different than India.
I went to Australia early this year and found it okay climate wise too, but age is always a barrier. I have family settled there.
Ameya,
Agreed that certain professions are regulated and require license to practice. But, how come degree certificates for those regulated professions from other countries are accepted and points are allotted easily while immigrating but same degree certificates are not recognized in Canada for practicing after one has landed as immigrant? Immigrants are lured into immigrating once they get their points based on their degree certificates believing that they would get jobs. After arriving here they face disappointment because their degrees are not recognized.
It would be fair only if prospective immigrants are clearly told to obtain license prior to migrating and points are allotted based on the licenses obtained. Those who have license should get jobs upon landing as immigrants. Something is not fair in Canadian immigration system as a few things do not appear transparent.
I believe Australia ensures prospective immigrants’ degree qualifications are recognized and licensed even before they are allowed to migrate.
This helps immigrants to get jobs.
Don’t move to canada then. We’ve had enough of you smelly turban headed dark stinkies coming over here and eating up all our ‘citizen’ services. Keep your asses in india or pakistan or whatever other third world toilet you originated from. We don’t want you!!!
LOL…Dan what a pig you are.
That’s rather uncharitable comment, Dan. Would Canada still be what it is without all that was contributed in the 20th century by these so called immigrant labour??
Immigrant labour depresses wages. 30 years ago I was earning $14 per hour. Bought a car cash and insured it. Today the same job pays $10 per hour and you are dreaming if you can buy a car cash and pay shelter. The first people to feel the pinch are the older immigrants with children when new waves of immigrant labour are brought in. Wages don’t go up but the cost of living and taxes keeps going up. The Vancouver anti-Chinese riots of 1886 were prompted by the engagement of cheap Chinese labour by the Canadian Pacific Railway, they laid off thousands of Canadians, men from the rest of Canada and stranded them in Southern British Columbia starving. The men took it out on the Chinese. Mass immigration doesn’t benefit Canadians or immigrants, it causes resentment and division. It benefits big business.
Dan, the problem is you guys have to clean up your “white” toilet by your own arses…that’s the reason you have the sheer cold audacity to come up with regretful words like these…pure shame.
I think, Dan u r in some sort of a Canadian toilet, where u r forced to eat people’s shit, and drink their urine in broad daylight, these third world people are the one’s growing your country’s economy, or else u would have still been a ragamuffin in some Canadian dumpyard.
I pity these low life persons.This shows their upbringing.
Looks like lot of people have shit in your mouth Dan, it sure looks and stinks like a toilet.
No wonder its all the shit is coming out now 🙂
You shitty comment would not stop any individual from settling there.
Go to hell and do hell with your shit comments .
Dear Moderator – you seem to be only worried about IP addresses and locations and are failing to remove bigoted foul language here.
Hii…I’m from india,2 6 year old..I’m working in defence forces in india as a soldier. D getting around 40k but after spent I’m able to save 15k.d gave 24 hrs to his organization .nw I’m doing this job bt sm tm I find it very boring same mental pressure work for whole day d don’t hv any tm to cm from that..
I hv my big dreams as better life style, better payment , cars d luxurious life..
If I wl remain at my present job I wl not find it ever d god me this life once to live nt to pass… I want to go Canada for work. As I wl get in a construction company. D got around. 4k c$ d wl get company’s accoaccommo dation d food…
4×12= 48k c$ (2496000 inr)
If I wl spend 75% of the money then I wl gt around 600000 per annum safe with good life…
Pls suggest me..
Please refrain from giving your job details on public platforms. Being a soldier is a proud achievement and makes us all proud of you too.
There is no harm in having ambitions, but be loyal to your present employers and don’t put em down in public forums. All the best
Joe – “dont put them down in public forums” – what trash. Why not? I guess you are a “patriotic bhakth?”
At the end of the day, people should have no emotional attachment towards “present employers” and national pride is the greatest stupidity in the world.
lol
Being an ex Indian soldier, I can confidently advise you to run for your life. No point risking your life in a corrupt system.
I moved to Canada and work in a clerical job, but earn far more and feel appreciated. I no longer have to risk ny life or the lives of my men for corrupt politicians.
But your IP address shows that you are in Muscat, not in Canada. If you are in Muscat, how can you advise anyone on Canada?
Please stay in India. Serve your own country. You will have a miserable life if you immigrate to Canada. The luxury you are dreaming of is easy to avail in India. In Canada, many people are homeless and live on streets without food. Be aware of the reality. Do not be fooled by rosy pictures. It is a scam.
Hi..i am prasad ..age 27 yrs ,I have 3 yrs experience in banking.Am planning to migrate to canada for better prospects.Kindly suggest .Iam looking for apply CANADA PR.Is this right decision.
Can you define what you mean by `better prospects’? How do you presume that your prospects will `better’ served only by coming to Canada.
Hi,
I was in the US decades ago and came back to India because of visa issues. I have traveled to quite a few countries but I must admit that there is no place to settle down like the North America! I just can’t believe that life in Canada sucks!
Thanks!
The person in this this article is too old to move to a new country. Having over 30 years of experience, this person must be over 50 years old. At this age in Canada, we are glad if they still have a job because company like younger work force. Cheaper and easier to train. Living in Canada over 35 years, I can see that older people are harder to enjoy life in a faster country.
What man compared to India even hell will be good. Come to Canada before the government introduces stricter measures for Indians. The largest part of accepted immigrants are Indians here, like all other countries, because of the large population size and the large number of Indians trying to leave India.
I heard in Canada there are plans to accept immigrants as a ratio so equal number of Indians, Pakistani, Iraqis, Europeans and so on move to Canada. Otherwise at this rate, Canada will have more Indians than any other group so I understand this plan although I am an Indian.
Hurry up.
That’s a joke then you should have just stayed in your “tax free” income job in your own country. why come to the western world?
You will know if you visit India. Imagine being surrounded by noise, stink and sweat no matter where you go. I was in the army and its an corrupt organization, so imagine how bad rest of the country is! I would never want my daughter to grow up in the rape capital of the world.
Rosy pictures fool innocent people.
This is the story of one family, but there are thousands and thousand of families gone to Canada and be blessed or prospered. You can not judge something with one testimony.
I am one of the blessed people that can never understand the ones that cry. I am a 45 Yrs old nurse, came to Canada in 2000 straight from Israel. Took me two years to get all the education and the licence in place time when I worked a minimum paid job. I found job after job later on and feel blessed to be here. Can I ever say enough “Thank you , Canada for accepting me??? To the people who came from Dubai- u made a good move. Dubai is in recession and fired many foreigners . Now if u want to think of options, you would have been sent back to India. Maybe u would have enjoyed India better , I can’t judge this since I’ve never been there. To me and millions of other people Canada is a blessing. I don’t live a high life but I live a very comfortable life, my children are enrolled in very good schools, we live in peace and surrounded by people who apologize to me if I bump into them by mistake. By far the nicest people on this planet. I am beyond thankful for everything I have and for the life I live.
You must be White & Jewish. No wonder you got the special treatment. Look around you and see how many Indian nurses are working with you, next to none !
Good comment. Well said.
I am always puzzled why people say “oh, Canada…. thank you, thank you, thank you for accepting me…..” . Seriously, Canada received fully grown up educated worker who paid for own professional registration and degree recognition. Who worked low wage job to survive first couple of years. I think they should be thankful that you accepted downshifting and for 16 years by now are paying taxes to boost their economy. Guys, common, give yourself a credit too.You did not cost a diem to their system and gave profit fairly soon. Allowing your entry here was based purely on a business calculations; unclear to me why some develop such a deep patriotic emotions toward receiving country . In terms of thankfulness and gratitude – i think the only newcomer category who should be melting down in thankful thanking is refugees.
Kuku, I find your views offensive. I am an immigrant to Canada and started off working minimum wage jobs. I now have two successful businesses and a farm. Yes, thank you Canada for accepting me and giving me opportunities. There is absolutely no reason why this country should thank immigrants for arriving. They have opened their doors, the rest is up to you. Do not come here looking for a hand-out, do not come here expecting to be treated like a lord. Come here expecting to do hard work and making your own destiny. For those of you posting on this board that Canada did not give you enough, you have the opportunity to go home. Canada is not a prison, the doors let you out as well as in.
Did you travel the whole world? To say that largely rude, emotionally detached population is nicest on this planet? Big claim calls for a big evidence.
LMAO. This is the story of thousands and thousands of immigrant families coming here. One story is that of one family who just about managed to be successful, but are still not happy here as the weather, climate sucks and there is NO culture here.
They always try to show a rosy picture of Canada because they want wealthy and skilled professionals to bring their whole money and spend here. Canada has nothing of its own and totally dependent upon immigrants’ money to survive. A first world country is depending upon third world countries for survival. Amazing !!! Isn’t it ?
I am pakistani citizen and working as Manager and draws heavy salary…after reading this article I must say DO NOT BLAME CANADA for your failures…I am ready to work anywhere bcz I have to think for family my son future…the only thing which disturbs me is long travel hours or long flights…otherwise there is no country in the world serving as paradise for you.. Being muslim I really respect and care about Canada…so much loving people and respect for human for a person for a life…forget money forget status forget your self esteeem….
Come to Canada for a peaceful quality life
u r from porkistan that is the only problem…y canada go to iraq
GAY HIND 🙂
Pakistanis, Go to Saudi/Iran/Iraq/Syria. Since your attitude towards other religion/people is very bad. I am working with some pakistani’s in Dubai and i am fed up with those **cking people 😛
Cow mata
Learn a bit of English while you are there.
That’s so true… Canada’s so good for those very reasons.
Hi,
I am Sohan
I am from India. My age is 40 years. here in India i am working in automobile industries and earning around 11 lacs/annum. in my family my wife and 02 kids are there. here in India i am well settled and saving also good enough.
My question is that if i am migrate to Canada then what will be the scope of the job in Canada. what will be the expenditure at Canada for the month. can i get the job within 02 months. what salary can i get in Canada? I have to take licence there or without Licence i can get the job in my automobile field?
If i want to buy car and House there in Canada then what will be the cost for the purchase there in Canada.
Please guide me so that i can take the decision.
Sohan.. I really do not understand why you want to immigrate to Canada when you have a decent good life in India. I am an Indian..immigrated to Canada almost a year ago..still no job.. There are soooo many people here looking for a job ..I came here only bcoz I had no other choice..I had nothing to lose..Brother, be happy with what you have..If I were in your place, not even in my dream I would have thought about immigrating to Canada..
Canada needs your money.. not you.. Be happy with what you have.. Be happy at your home..
If you want to regret, WELCOME TO CANADA!!!
Nice reply
Highly appreciated
Im from Australia, have a recent dream to move there but I must not try.
Very insight reply. Thanks Jack…. What Sohan mentioned – my scenario too almost same. But your statement of “Canada needs your money.. not you.” – Thanks
i am mechanical engineer having 5 yrs of experience as a maintenance engineer in india now days i am thinking to migrate from india to canada for batter future and life and i am still confused what should i do, did i get a decent job there or not and all.
Mechanical engineering is hard to find job in Canada because most of the jobs in Canada are in service industry. IT or Medical professional are doing well here.
Hi Sam,
I am 38 years old diploma engineer with over 16 years of experience in Security automation field like CCTV, Access control, Fire Alarm in technical field. I am from India. Is there any scope for this Security Automation field???
You should check out the Canadian immigration website and check with the Canadian immigration office for information on where to come in Canada, where jobs are and where the best places to settle. Most immigrants look at Toronto and Vancouver and there are many other places where there are jobs and better life….
I am a Canadian Citizen living in the USA. I agree with the post by the family from Dubai. If you have worked 30 years already, then it is fool hardy to migrate to any new country and hope for a job. You are competing with young folks who all mostly have an MBA and have done several interns with various companies. Laws are different and every profession need certifications. I came as a student to USA and worked in Canada as a youngster
Yes, there was discrimination when I was looking for a job. But I had a Ph.D and an MBA from Wharton, U.Penn. Those were days when we did not have Internet, so it was more challenging. My advise. If you have already worked 3 decades, you should retire, rather than resettling in another country. You should embrace “Enough is Enough”
I agree with Kash. I am not an immigrant, and was born in Canada. I have ancestors who were immigrants. Even in Canada, for those of us who had it “easier” we have to know when enough is enough. I worked with a lady who was a respected teacher in India for 30 years. She and her husband came for a “better life” for their children. The lady was a house cleaner, and felt a tier lower than being a teacher back home. Their children felt resentful that they had left a life where their family had respect. Careful of saying you will come to Canada for a better life. For some it is true. But… if you have a good career back home, be very careful. By the way, I love being around immigrants and feel right at home with them. All the best to you all.
Hi Jill, this is Sneha from India.. was planing to expand my business recruitment business in Canada what do u think is thr any scope. wud b very greatful if u respond back. as i am little worried after reading these above post.
Its so stupid to ask business advise from random people online. You will never survive with that standard in Canada.
Intellectual racism is rampant in Canada. The racism is subtle towards Indian ( read brown ) people and Chinese people. If you are poor class or lower middle class in India, come here to do low level jobs. You will just about survive. But if you are upper middle class or rich class from India, don’t even bother. You will waste your life and savings over here. Huge massive cultural shock, fools paradise indeed.
Dear Raj,
Thanks for your well placed comments on immigration to Canada.I am a retired Colonel from Indian Army with 21 yrs of colored service and presently working in corporate world for last 5 years as CEO post retirement from Army . I have already taken IELTS with a good grade and have done MBA as well. I am 47 yrs of age with no child liability as my son is settled.I intend trying for Immigration to Canada.I am ready to work hard.Will I be able to get adjusted there in terms of job satisfaction,work environment and culture, social acceptability, racism and self respect.Your valuable comments will go a long way to help me take correct decision lest I should repent whole life.
Sneha are you in india..i can help you. Rrgards Dr.Dev
Whatsapp me on 9987401287
Hello All
This an interesting article with various points of views in the comments, which I read all through.
It seems that vast majority are from India, but I am from Kurdistan of iraq and I have master in business law from Newcastle university uk. (No British passport), now I am working with an international company in kurdistan and piad well based on where I leave. I am thinking to immigrate to canada, but I am afraid I never be able to get a professional job there and stay my entire life struggle with low income. I am 31 years married and have 2 kids.
Off course my home country and canada is not comparable in any way, but some times I am saying leaving as a middle class in this mess might be better than living as a very low class in the heaven of canada.
Do you think I can survive in canada? I don’t dream to be rich, no even here I just like reasonable life for my family.
So in canada what kind of jobs I have to do and for how Long ?
Thanks
I guess you need to look into lawyers licensing process well before thinking about Canada.
I have lived in Canada my whole life.. I don’t have a job, I’ve been looking for a job for a year… It’s not a good time to come here unless you have something going for yourself before you come…
or maybe your just dumb
If you are from Iraq, try to go to Dubai, Abhu Dhabi, Bahrain etc. Don’t come to Canada, you will waste your life here. Canada only needs well educated immigrants to do low level labour jobs like security guards, fast food workers, retail store clerks, cab drivers etc. Plus you come with funds they want that too :). It stimulates their economy. Immigration is Canada’s biggest economy and selling natural resources like oil, otherwise this country is a frozen wasteland. If you don’t believe me, come and find out for yourself. You have been warned.
Dear friend,
Immigrating to Canada is a risk as any other risk you may make through your lifetime. when you take the risk to do anything then you have to get yourself ready for it, but keep in mind what is good in one country it might not be as good in another country, so you have to get yourself ready. First, you have to find out what is needed in Canada and what are the main qualification you have to have.
When you acquire the main qualifications then you have to have the specific qualification of what you are intending to do.
Doing the above requirement will pave the way for you. To tell you the truth, you cannot rely on your degree as a mean to have a job right away because the job marked wants to protect its educational institutions so if they do otherwise then that will affect Canadian educational institutions negatively so the job market will always ask for Canadain degree or Canadain experience. It is just a protectionism.
the writer of the above comment was a teacher, and the market for teaching is not as good , and she/he was supposed to explore the market plus she/he was supposed to look for a different field if the teaching field is poor. An educated person should be able to explore other opportunities not to limit him/herself to what is not salable.
I am not trying to blame him/ her, but I am introducing different point of view.
The major point I want to make it clear is the language. The more you master it the more successful you will be.
Here is the link to an article by a popular canadian magazine about how immigrants fare in Canada, for anyone who doubts the story above: http://www.macleans.ca/economy/business/land-of-misfortune/
Canada is a great place if you like forests and wildlife. However, the people are shallow, ignorant and cold. Don’t be taken in by the superficial US-style extroversion. As for your career: you have no chance at all. Go anywhere else on earth.
Wow so sorry to hear that you think we are all stupid and ignorant. I work with many immigrants who are doing well..for you I guess you chose the wrong country so time to go home I would think…….
Pat i agree you…its poor to know people are trying spoil the image of a nation. The only reason i see is if you cannot get yourself eligible to canada it does not mean canada is bad but it means you fall short not a nation….am i right Pat.
I have lots of my people who are flourishing in canada
Have a look at Australia.
Have a look at this book Australian Skilled Migration In a Nutshell which has just been released as eBook and is available in Amazon.
A simple advice to you.. Continue to live where you are right now.. Plz do not come to Canada.. You will regret..
This article is true for the most part. Been living here since 2 now almost 22. Ever since moving here, its has been mostly problems. I mean you do have some benefits, but there are many negatives.
Rental and house prices are very expensive in the major cities compared to other nations.
Phone, internet, cable the highest or one of the highest in developed countries.
Divorce rates are very high, and most people arent getting married anymore.
Household debt is the 3rd highest in the world.
People drink and do drugs more than most countries.
People all more twofaced. Most talk nice but hate you.
Job discrimination is very prevalent. They would much rather prefer a white than an arab, spanish, desi, unless its for less pay. If a diploma isnt “Canadian” it means nothing to them.
General discrimination is on the rise more and more. (I get called terrorist a lot, and people think that everyone middle eastern, desi etc is uncivilized)
We relocated here from saudi arabia in 1997. Originally from palestine, it was hard to live a decent life in a war torn country, my grandparents would say. When we first moved, we had a hard time finding rentals because of the process of credit ratings and other stuff. My dad worked low end jobs for many years before moving up. When that happened, he left us and we were all promised a better life. Its been really hard on our family emotionally living here from stress, finances, racism, culture etc. The whole situation is hard, and I have suffered with terrible anxiety and depression for a long time. My sister also ran away from our parents house and moved to a different country years ago. My brother also suffered emotional problems for many years from growing up here.
I really feel bad seeing that so many of us have to suffer here when we are promised so much. I mean most of the rich successful immigrants here have there own business and luck to help them out. If you are really considering moving to canada, there are plenty of unhappy and miserable people here who can relate to our story. I have many people tell me the same thing…
It would be foolish decisition you wanted to leave your family for money or else Give your frist Priority to your loveable family
Hi
If u r thinking of migrating to Canada, u should compare ur home country in terms of quality of life and retirement age. Money is basic need, but more than that is the nature and ease of doing job or business. I am business person in India doing well but never felt relaxed. It’s hard to get their on road but once u are on ur car become driverless. I mean to say no labour tension , everything is tax paid, u generate capital but here mint money than again got tense to invest, mean to say u have the money but u cannot enjoy.
I think one should opt for migration keeping in mind not minting money but upgrade the living standard. Though India surely is not what it used to be but same time lack of respect, adulterated food, no hard policies regarding safety, recent example being someone’s neck cut through plastic wire during kite flying. As it is banned from last 3 years, but people still manage to get import risking life. Corruption is everywhere but people still care for humanity in these countries. So one should think of moving there keeping in mind living in good pollution free environment paying back with hardships.
Cheers
hi
my name is kamaldeep singh. i want to do master in professional accounting from uae university. is that right choice. or can u provide me details of other best institution who offer the same course. and what are job prospectus for accounting graduate here. plz guide me so that i can make right decision.
Hi all!
Me and my husband are 35, live in the Middle east and earn around 135,000 CAD which is tax free. We, too, have been hearing various immigration stories and feel confused whether we should apply for a PR or not. Our only concerns are if we will be able to live in India after being abroad for 30+ years. Also, we don’t like the natural environment in our current country of residence and would love somewhere greener! We don’t intend to have kids so that pro is out.
Is it advisable to move based on only these two criteria? It may be nice to have a passport that allows visa free travel, but I fear these reasons are not strong enough to leave a comfortable life so close to home and face struggle for atleast 2 years.
If you’re working Dubai salaries for over 10 years, then why would India deny you entry into your country of birth? Don’t be fooled that Canada is ‘greener’ because over 50% of the land in Canada is owned by the Crown of England, Queen Elizabeth, and you need to apply for her office’s permission to even step foot on those Crown lands. Canada is technically the congested cities of Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto, Montreal and urban Halifax. The rest of land is either cottage homes for white Canadians, or off-bounds land for only the Queen of England and restricted for Canadians to even walk on because that will be considered trespassing and against the law.
My husband, who had three decades of work experience in construction in Dubai, was reduced to doing odd jobs which are not even worth mentioning.
Three decades of experience?? So how old was he when immigrated to Canada? He must be over 50 with such a long experience! at that advanced age, It is unwise decision to come to Canada, because you will start from scratch. Hence, I think your advice can not be generalized to all those seeking a chance to leave their home countries and find a new civilized place to live in.
Dear All,
I recently came across this blog and found the comments to be extremely interesting, yet a bit of a worry for myself, as I am planning to immigrate from India, preferably to Canada. This was not a life long dream, yet it has become one now. I have good intentions of moving to and settling down in Canada. By god’s grace I have a well running business in India, and I wish to expand it and make it export oriented and thereby find myself an opportunity to move to Canada. I am not inclined towards doing a job as off now and would like to take a business opportunity if that comes my way. I would highly appreciate it if anyone can guide me better regarding this matter.
Thanks in Advance.
Dear All,
Don’t Belive on the Shit here. I work in travel industry and worked for about 12 Years in Delhi, Dubai, Singapore & London. Later we decided to move to Canada and here we are in Calgary now with Canadian Passport and well-paid job of CAD 120 K Per Annum as General Manager. I have invited my parents under Canada Super Visa & now all family member are here with our own house and settlaed.
Only thing you need to keep in mind that is extreme cold country rest everything is ok. Off course you start with any job which comes to your way but eventually you can grow here more faster than Dubai.
Actually Dubai is paradise of Fool- Here we pay tax but get child Education & Medical Free & accommodation is 3 times cheaper here in Canada the amount you pay in Dubai for Bedshare you can rent 2 Bedroom here.
Let me be more clear- if you are Muslim stay in Dubai or if you follow any other religion then Canada is the place for you.
Dubai You get tax free salary but you pay for evenry thing – Like – Certificate attestaiton, Expensive accomdoaiton, Visa change & it has the worse business startup environment. & whole life keep on in & out with no passport at all. Where you keep your Indian Passport hut to travel any where you need visa so your life is simply hell even you earn good.
Thanks
“if you are Muslim stay in Dubai or if you follow any other religion than Canada is the place for you”. Not exactly sure what that is supposed to mean. There are lots of Muslims, including myself, who are living happily in Canada and we enjoy great religious freedom to practice and follow our faith, and many Muslims are quite well integrated in mainstream Canadian culture.
Perhaps he tried to mention the advantages in Dubai of being Muslim. not that the Muslims are at disadvantage in Canada.
This blog came in my google search, so I started reading for curiosity with no intentions and found interesting comments in them,
My first suggestion, for immigration don’t think negatives for Canada only, with all your experiences and savings even if you have to go back to your home country as of now, you will face challenges. Life is not that easy for middle class.
I am living in Toronto, Canada, since last 11 years, I also came to Canada after leaving a senior post / career in bank, to me all I heard negative about Canada before coming over here.
There are many factors on which one success or failure depends, I recall when I landed in Canada one of my friend gave me advise, if I want to succeed over here the rule of thumb, stay away from Desi ppl, they are the factory of negativity and set your mind only towards negative approach and depression, Now I confirm this, and suggest you all the same, here in Canada if you are between Desi ppl you will receive 99% negativity but all of them never left Canada, and wants that their future generations should also live here.
I can jot down few main points, what I like in UAE and what I prefer in Canada, based on circumstances that you are well educated, from highly earning family,
For Canada:
1. Respect / Equality ( No one can tell you that line is for Canadians only, and this is for immigrants)
2. Citizenship ( don’t take it light , Canadian passport is exempted from visa from most of countries in world including UAE)
3. Health System, ( you only come to know about cost of health care if you got in some critical illness / disability)
4. Children Education (No match)
5. Environment
6. Jobs / Salary ( If you are not dump enough you will get a good, indeed very good jobs, most of my friends circle is from Pakistan / India, they are VPs, Directors, CFO, Senior Manager, etc.. in their fortune 500 companies)
7. Investments ( not sure for UAE, but in Canada if you are good investor with job you can save a lot more than UAE)
8. Security , 18 year only girl can easily come home at 2:00 am in night, through bus and walking half mile, with no worries
Cons:
8. Too much tax
9. Far away from your back home, so much of your saving spent in travelling back home
UAE
Only two reasons I will prefer UAE:
1. Muslim state, so need to search for Halaal food (that’s personal preference)
2. Near to back home, so that I can visit multiple times in a year to back home,
3. Sure 100% not for salary only I will ever move to UAE
Cons.
3. Discrimination
4. Stupid office politics and lobbing
5. Peoples Mentality, ( you can easily point to person over here that he is new immigrant based on his mentality) ,
6. PPLs eyes are like xray machine which works perfectly after seeing a woman
This is my opinion, this may be differ from others,
only suggestion if you are getting old and don’t have high energy to struggle from start, make priorities
1. What future you want to give to your kids
2. What would you do after UAE job finish
3. For Canada keep in mind that you have to either struggle 3 times more to prove yourself, or start your own business,
Wish you all the very best future,
HI ALL,
IF YOU REALLY LOVE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, CHEVY CAMARO AND ALL THOSE CLASSIC CARS AND STUFF,IF YOU LOVE ROCK MUSIC, BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPES, AND FASCINATE HOLLYWOOD MOVIES FROM CHILDHOOD AND NOT THOSE CRAPPY BOLLYWOOD SHITTY MOVIES, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY IF YOU LOVE WESTERN CULTURE AND THAT ATTITUDE OR AT LEAST AN ATTITUDE TO ADAPT TO THAT ENVIRONMENT THEN CANADA IS THE BEST PLACE FOR YOU LIKE THE USA. JUST GO FOR IT AND IF ANY ONE OF YOU ARE OPPOSITE TO WHAT I JUST SAID PLEASE DON’T COME TO CANADA BUT STAY IN INDIA OR DUBAI OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY EXCEPT USA,CANADA,AUSTRALIA,NEW ZEALAND, UK. THIS IS THE TRUTH AND TRUTH ALWAYS HURTS.
JASON FROM MANGALORE. (INDIA)
Dear All,
Thank you for all the positive and negative comments, it was definable worth a read.
I am an Environmental Engineer (M. Tech ) currently working in Abu Dhabi for the past 1+ year. I have recently got married. My husband (28 yrs), who has a masters in mechanical engineering, is working as a project engineer. We don’t have kids yet. Since we are both relatively graduate engineers, pay is not great here . I am interested in migrating to Canada or New Zealand (its milder weather), not because UAE or India is bad but simply because to explore new places and also along with that to get a citizenship, which the middle east doesn’t provide . Also I would like to get a PR and earn a PhD done as well. So considering the various factors I have finalized for these two countries .
So my question is that if we start of at a earlier stage & with a good consultant in UAE , will securing a job and settling in be any easier?
Also I have seen various replies in the field of IT , but not in civil and mechanical engineering jobs. So if anyone can give me an overview on that, it would be great too. Also we would ideally only give migration a try with only one of us coming to Canada in search for a job. So in that case which profession has a better chance of getting a job sooner .
If anyone is an engineer in the same field, I would love to talk to you regarding any certification/accreditation/engineering degree recognition etc. that will help us secure a decent job in the same field.
We understand that migration is not easy and we are ready to move outside our comfort zone. Having done my school education in Abu Dhabi , I can speak English reasonable well. In the near future, I would like to start a family, as UAE is getting increasingly expensive – rents, school fees etc. I feel that migration wouldn’t be a bad idea especially since Middle East is probably going to have taxes a well in the coming years .
UAE is an amazing place, having grown up here all my family and friends are here and it is definitely my comfort zone. Especially its close proximity to India & safety for women. My dad has worked here and did reasonable well for himself and did the best for us. I want to do the same for my kids and I am ready to struggle for that, as I believe hard work always pays.
So all in all, I would like to know how it is to raise a family and have reasonable life with my qualifications.
Regards,
Anju Joseph
If you are an engineer New Zealand is not a very good option as its not very much into manufacturing ….
I have lived in NZ for last 16 yrs and also have a Canadian PR… but at any point of time I will choose NZ to cananda.. its a place to die for :)..my opinion…
its not a place to make money ..although people do make lots of money… houses are freckingly expensive for new migrants.. and its the same in any big cities, Sydney, Vancouver etc.. and at any time if you feel like going for more opportunities you can move to Aussie from NZ as you don’t need a visa to live in Aus for NZ citizens.. unique agreement between nz and aus..you cant do that between canada and us….
Nz is for those who love green clean country and also safe as well..
Apologies I missed your area environmental eng. so propably you have more chances here ( not saying that you wont have one in canada)… look for jobs in seek.co.nz website …. these guys get paid very well here…. mech eng.is not much here but ask him to check NZ steel … they pay very well …. not sure what else to suggest… Best of luck …. and when you come please dont convert $$ to AED or rupees … you will be totally negative then :)….I came at the age of 23 and did all odd jobs from cleaning to picking, but looking back i have done reasonably very well i belive … its all about attitude not qualification i believe for a migrant
Dear Moderator,
I have around 16 years experience in Banking and most of it in System implementation in a Bank. Whether my kind of job roles is easy or difficult to get through. Pls revert
is express entry scheme ( 2015 ) yet another scam being run by the greedy Canada govt?
Hi all …Greeting in the name of Lord……I read all your comments …now I am really confused thinking about Canada Immigration. I have already paid AED 2000/- to an agency in Dubai for the immigration process. Because of their bad performance & irresponsibility I break/stopped to give balance money. Now they have started calling me frequently. Now I am searching to get a a better agency or any other DIRECT way for the Canada immigration procedure ( for my 4 member family). This is my current status. I am an India. I have done Master Degree in Computer Applications from India . I have been working in UAE since 2006. Even I have IT background, I worked in NON IT domain in different companies in UAE for the past 10 years. During this period I was getting maximum salary of AED 5500 only. My family is India. I have 2 kids. My wife is working in medical field in government service in India. Sincerely telling our total saving is below Indian Rupees 10,0000/- . Now we are thinking about Canada Immigration for a Life Change. Now I have no hope in UAE. We are not interested for Canada Citizenship. But Canada PR ( As an immigrant) is sufficient for us. Wife has already applied to get a LONG LEAVE from government authority. I have started to do refresh my IT skills for getting job in Canada . Similarly we started to save money for the FEES & expenses of immigration process . We were inquiries about the life in Canada from different experienced people. We can hear both good & bad experience from people. Many people have better life in CANADA while compared with UAE life. For some people reverse experience also. Anyway we decided to move to any peaceful country for living together as a family. According to my knowledge, education background & skills only I selected the country CANADA for PR- Permanent Resident . My dear friends……..Anybody can give us a better advise with instructions for the same. Our main objects are ….. Indian citizenship is sufficient for us….. But for some periods I wish to live in a peaceful city with family ( not in Indian & UAE ). Because I could not get a joyful life in both Indian & UAE for the last 20 years. ) That’s why . When I checked with AUS & NEZ, chances of getting a job is less while considering my work experiences. Waiting for your valuable advise with instructions. Thank You all…….SUDEV
Improving English skills would be helpful for your Endeavor!!
Hello , I have done MBA married one yr back currently working in bangalore india for 6yrs but my salary is low here earnings rs 30000 per month iam not able to manage with my income I want to build my gud carrier I have got experience into finance domain could you please advise will it be a gud decision to move to canada considering my income. I have got lot of responsibilities and my wife has done MSc she is also working but we want to settle in canada to make money and build our future your response will be truly appreciated .Thanks.
Then try and save up.. Make sacrifices if possible, try not to have many kids..
I am working in a good multinational bank in Bangladesh and getting well salary.i can save 6lak tk a year. I have a new born baby.should. I leave my job and migrate to Canada. Pls suggest. Me.
I rather answering the the question want to ask about myself.can anyone suggest me what can I do, iam currently. Working in one of good multinational bank in Bangladesh and getting salary in a way that I can save money 6 lak bdt a year. I have a new born baby.ny wife is house wife.should I move to Canada leavings my job, can I do better.im confuse.will I gain or loss.pls suggest me.
What a load of whining that was. Grow up.
I suggest you grow up and see the real world is. Canada is lazy and is stuck among themselves pretentiously thinking they are the best. what a load cry babies.
Welcome to the real world where Dubai, Singapore, HK, London, Sydney, Shanghai, LA, Tokyo, Chicago, NYC( all cities) even outdoes Canada.
Canada has nothing absolutely nothing to offer to the world and not meant for anyone to destroy their prime life in. I am much happier in London even if Europe has lot of issues now. Every day is a day to look forward to unlike Canada
Goodbye Canada
Salman – interesting statement. Especially considering the date and what’s happening in Europe with all the killings due to terrorists. I’ve been here my whole life, but not sure I want to stay.
Good-bye and good riddance!
Well said Salman! Good for you!
Dear Moderator..
Im from India..my wife is basically B.sc physics graduate,Now she is doing final year MBA technology and also having 4 years of experience in IT industry with strong emphasis in all phases of software development including analysis, coding and testing of applications including real time production support in IBM mainframe environment.working an Analyst programmer.
Myself BBA graduate with 7 years of Sales & Marketing experience in Recruitment,bank,and media industry etc. Please let me know about the opportunities that I have once I land in Canada –
both are 29 yrs old
PLEASE ADVICE
You have the right age, right qualifications and the right field as for as Canada is concerned. But there will be initial struggles and wait.
initial struggles and wait??
Pls explain sir..It is hard to get job??
Im having 4 years old kid too..what abt education??
Yuvaraj,
if you’re planning to get IT jobs, plan for big struggle..as many graduates here cannot find one for themselves after looking for many years. If you have a well paying job in India, don’t leave that. Almost, all IT is now done in India or China, there is merely sales oriented jobs and enterprise software customization jobs here, which requires extensive experiences (Canadian), and hands on technical certifications and qualifications.
Come back to India. Don’t think India is same as it was 20 years ago. Indian Education System has advanced and more practical. Where did you think you study and got qualified to earn 130,000 CAD a year. off course India. So why think Indian education for your Kid is not good.
East or West India is the Best.
Even if you don’t have a job in India, with your savings alone you can live a decent and comfortable life in India. Same is not true for other western countries
I am working as a trainer in training department in Travel & Tourism Industry, and I have applied for Canadian Immigration. I have more than 8 years of Sales experience and 10 years plus Senior Customer Service Representative in Call Centre experience. What are the prospects of getting a decent job in Canada? I will be moving with my wife (non-working) and 2 infants?
Dear Moderator,
I am waiting for your reply.
Thanks
Most jobs in this country are sales jobs. If you ready to work in any field, you will find a (decent) job. But remember if you are doing fine in your current situation in Dubai and you are over 35, then think hard before taking any decision. With a non-working wife and two kids, it won’t be easy. We will advise that your first priority should be to protect all you have earned. Your initial time here will be a big drain on your savings.
Prince – you are making good money in Dubai. Your only son is 7 years old. Clearly you don’t want to be separated from your only son. You have 10 years before you have to make a decision on this and he has to go to University. I think you should not jump into this. Give yourself a few years without feeling so much pressure to make such an important decision. In the meantime, you will have your family and your well paying job. When it is the right decision, you will know.
Thank you all of you for your wise and sincere comments and advise. I have decided the following course of action.
1. I am sending my wife for a few months to canada to assess her job prospects.
2.I will most probably not leave such a good job here as I am happy here.
3.If my wife gets a job in canada as she is software engineer I will send my son to canada to stay with her for 3 years.
4.I hope to get my Portugal citizenship soon and then I can visit canada through USA land border as tourist as European passport has visa free travel to canada. I will surrender my Pr card. I have enough savings to visit them every month for a week. That way I can meet them 7 months a year and 2 months they come down to meet me for a week or so. So I will see them for atleast 9 months atleast for a week. I will not think of money then for 3 years.
5. If I get very depressed and lonely I will switch them back here. In any case I will not waste my hard earned savings on canada if my wife does not get a job in 6 months. That is why I am not moving my son yet to canada.
5. I thank god that despite starting from scratch I have reached a state where I can give higher education in a western country to my son and my situation will further improve in another 10 years when he is ready to go to university.
6. I will not spoil my health further by worrying. In any case with such wealth and European citizenship my son should be able to make it on his own in European countries when he grows up if canada plan does not work out. there is a limit beyond which we should not do for our children cause in the end we are all going to end up in an old age home.
Prince! couldn’t agree more to your Point 6.
And reading your reply there is little doubt on why Emirates pay you so high and for so long!
Keep up the good work and may your good days never end. Good Luck!
Quote : “my situation will further improve in another 10 years when he is ready to go to university.”
1. Can you guarantee that you will be alive in 10 years time?
2. Why talk about something in 10 years time when you cannot be entirely sure that you will be alive or be healthy?
3. Humans, as stupid as they are, always like to think that they will live and be healthy for a long time.
You must also listen to the succesful immigrants in Canada. The 4 years are tough. But after that once you are familiar with the country you will do well. It is hard for people to settle in if they are 35+.
I keep hearing two important factors before immigrating to Canada: 1) skills 2) age
Rienzie you say thta “It is hard for people to settle in if they are 35+.” Is this your own specific experience or is it something that most of the immigrants confirm this?
Hello everyone, I am a Nigerian and a skilled worker (pipeline fitter) am considering the option of migrating to Canada… Pls I need Nigerians over there or any good-hearted fellow to help me out with the basic info I need. Thank you.
Your skills are right for this country. It depends on your age and other circumstances.
Hello, yes this is true. It happened to me. I was a sailor for 10yrs with good money and savings. Then arrived in canada. Wont even hire me even if i have international license. Worked full time as security at night for 3 yrs and go to school during day. The have my license and worked on a ferry. Now we had a house in Vancouver but mortgage fee is lifetime. But its a safer and cleaner place than Phil.
HI
I am SOFTWARE ENGINNER in Bangalore with an exp of 6 yrs. I would want to apply for a PR and I am in touch with numerous consultancies. Can you please advice which is the best Consultancy I can apply and also please let me know whether I have an future in Canada.
Think twice and weigh your options – what do you really want in life? money or happy home with good future for the children
Hi, I mean no offence to the author here but I had to comment on this post as this is one of the most misleading posts I have ever read. Everyone assumes that once you come to the “americas” you are entitled to a better life, a better pay, a better job and so on. No one realizes there has been years of effort put into getting good jobs and high pays even here in Canada. I presently work in Canada and just like any other place in the world when applying for a job they look for experience and specifically if you have any Canadian experience. Just cause the government gives you a PR it does not mean you leave your old life and job behind, which you probably took years to achieve and move a totally new environment expecting to find a better or same job while at the same time you are new to Canada, its culture, the people, work ethics and so on. Its your responsibility to take educated and informed decisions while leaving a job and moving to a completely new country. You are responsible to find a job for yourself and the government has nothing to do with you not finding a your “dream job” that you expected to get. And as is mentioned in the comments this is a very personal opinion with no research or based on the experiences of a few people. Please do not post such articles and misled the public, you are only ruining an opportunity for some one who could have come here and made a life out of it. To all of you out there, please do not be discouraged by such articles. Do some research for yourself before you make any decision on whether to immigrate to Canada or not.
exactly !
@Prince, life is a challenge even you have much money. By reading the status you can live happily in Canada with the wealth what you have. Let you and your family enjoy what you worked had last two dacades. So pack your bag and go….! No one need to teach you money management.
Don’t just be working until last day of your life and leave your wealth in bank, enjoy and see what life is out side middle east!
See the seasons ….
An immigrant from Saudi!
Hi Totally agree with Harsh. This article is generalising stuff. Industries like manufacturing, construction are a bit hard than usual as not much exists. Most of manufacturing is offshored.
Education,health industry is regulated and one should have some research and been prepared before making the move rather than expecting green pastures.
IT and accounting ppl will say getting a job would be easier than health industry and education as it is not regulated. So it depends from industry to industry.
Mr Prince. Tou only comparing the income you make from a tax free economy. You dont take into account the facilities you will get in canada which are absent in a desert like dubai. One the facilities are awesome, mids will love it, work life balance etc. Endless list. Because of these facilities you will pay tax obviously and esrn lesser but you get canadian citizenship. In dubai you dont. Life aint all about money. Its more than saying that I will retire with ten crore savings. With an accounting background its so much easier to get a job and no value can be put to the life tou will have compared to dubai. So lets not generalise here as there are horses for courses. One size doesnt fit all which is what the article is misleading us to believe.
There is no doubt the teaching and medical profession jobs are tough to crack for immigrants and they are highly regulated, but keep in mind that’s for a reason. It also doesn’t mean that you can’t get one.
I came to Canada in 2014 and secured my first interview in less than 2 weeks, and I didn’t get through. Having worked in UK for 5 years and given my good English speaking skills I thought it would be super easy to crack.
I realized there are few behavioural skills that Canadians looks out for unlike the employers in UK of US or India.
I started working on the required skills and secured a job in 3 months.
Your post seems to be generalizing to a greater extent. If something doesn’t work out for you that doesn’t mean it doesn’t work out for anyone.
I would be happy to see you advising to be better prepared when immigrants arrive.
Hi Harsha,
You made some good points! Would you care to share the behavioural skills that Canadians are looking for?
Cheers
Hi Friendz,
I’m Tiki. . .
I’m living at present in India and planning to move either to Dubai or Canada in search for my future savings and work
Do help me out to get some information as how to approach in my present situation
I hold my B.com, MBA finance certificates and i also have my Tally ERP9 certificates and a couple of other certificates
I’m from a commerce and accounting base
Now, i carry 2 years and 6 months experience in financial services, accounting and Banking domain as a whole. . .
so, get me some ideas about moving to DUBAI or CANADA and how is the job market in both cases at present. . .
All you people talking about dubai being heavenly, there are people born and raised in dubai but got nothing out, spent all their money on schools and fees and rent, and couldn’t put their kids in college. If you are average you will never own a house here, you will always be paying for visas somehow and you will never be able to stay here at retirement age as retirement doesn’t exist in expat dictionary. Most great benefits medical, schools, rent are going to certain expats mainly European british or US.. the rest get nothing even if they work twice as hard and know twice as mucb! It’s no where near fair or livable with the current expenses and low salaries! So what exactly are you all on about? Be realistic and look at many people around you, they may dress fake fancy but living with enormous struggles on daily basis. Make a choice that guarantees the rest of your life and your kid’s life because they will get nothing in return that same check is going for bills (yes surprise many people spent their cheques on bills not fancy outings or things or houses.
Not to forget the amount of stress and health problems caused due to stress, yes surprise many people with heart issues due to the stressful life, even if they act like they are enjoying it for the sake of their kids.
Many people also want to have too many kids and waste money on luxuries, trying to impress others, even though they cannot really afford it.
The most challenging part of the families who come from rich background or countries like UAE is they have not done work with their own hands . Things are get done for them. When they come here , they are not rich any more. They have to do all house chores. Now , prospective immigrants know what are the odds for them getting a decent job but they stick around because they have other objectives in sight, one of them is citizenship and children higher education. They get benefit from the system, like children support payment , unemployment benefit , loans for studies etc. but still keep complaining..
Sorry to hear your story. While sharing your story , should not you be take responsibility of your decisions?. When you realized that the situation is not working good for you. Why did you not go back?. Why did you stick around. Obviously , you had some objectives ..like getting citizenship , get your children educated in Canadian universities, owing your home in Canada etc. We have to be open & honest in sharing our stories. Now , prospective immigrants know what are the odds for them getting a decent job but they stick around because they have other objectives in sight.
Dear Sir,
Peace be upon you and your family. My advice to you is keep your job and your family in UAE. There are many reasons to consider first: what is your age? You should not only prepare for your child’s future but also don’t forget about your retirement plan. Second, you have to consider also the safety of your family. West is west. We are asians.,keeping them and enjoy life together is the most outrageous thing in the world. We only have today,we don’t know anything about tomorrow,there’s no guarantees.From what you are earning you can start a very good business in India. There no place like home. I hope and pray to God that you will be guided to your decisions. Please be careful and think a million times,look at your wife and child while sleeping and ask yourself can you let these two special people live without you or you without them? When you had the answer then that would help you to decide.
What nonsense. There many Asians in the West who have been accepted and are living decent lives. Please keep this backward thinking to yourself. Infact, your thoughts are quite racist. You are suggesting that Asians should be with Asians.
it wouldnt hurt for him to take the risk as long as he is prepared when things go south. i dont see where the difference between asians and westerners fits in the picture and what safety has to do with it. Anywhere you go, your safety is compromised if your’e careless. Even then, dangers and misfortunes can happen to anyone no matter where you are, even in the very comfort of your own home. Migrating to another country is not for everyone for we all know that some people failed, some of them succeed. So theres no reason to issue a blanket statement that all westerners cant keep their family and their job together compared to Asians. Why would you let the shortcomings of other cultures influence your life? it seems to be one of the most ridiculous assumption i ever heard, no less than what the author of this article is trying to imply. In this current global trend, you cant tell people to just stay where they are and not to explore or discover new avenues to secure a better life because its dangerous and people out there are different. Keeping an open and educated mind is vital for us to thrive and stay connected, no matter where we came from and whats our cultural origin. Over the years, the world has dramatically changed and our mindset and perspectives should follow suit. I observe that people who have high level of optimism and positivity are more than likely to succeed compared to the pessimist and those who are extremely anxious to leave their comfort zone. If you are happy with your current situation, so be it but dont assume that people think and feel the same way you do and will have the same experience as yours.
This is for all those expatriates from the Middle East who think having immigrated to Canada was a big mistake. The writer of the above article has taken an extremely narrow and negative view of her own personal experience which cannot be applied to the majority of the immigrants:
I have been in Canada for the last 25 years and have never once regretted the decision to come here. Yes, like most, in the initial phase we had a deep desire to chuck it all and go back to the homeland because of the difficulties, disappointments and challenges we faced. Seeing our hard earned savings begin to dwindle rapidly was terrifying to say the least. Every immigrant has to go through the phase of difficulties and failures including depression if they desire to make a life in this country that has so many blessings — free medical services being one of the biggest. Immigrating to Canada does not mean that a cushy well paying job will be handed to you on a platter! If you are coming to this country on that assumption you would be rather naive. I love Canada, and enjoy every moment of the freedom that we enjoy here. If you prefer the razzle dazzle of the Middle East; where you will always be a second-class resident in spite of the money you make, where you are blamed for a car accident with a local that is not your fault simply because of your ethnicity, where you can be deported out of the country at a moment’s notice because you have no rights, then stay back and don’t come to Canada — nobody is forcing you to! But, if you do decide to come, then appreciate the blessings, freedoms, rights and the support system this nation has to offer, regardless of your colour or religion. A place where every person is protected under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. There will be instances of racism and injustices from time to time, as there is in every other nation on this earth. Work hard and adapt to life here in spite of the difficulties, disappointments and failures. Make a life for yourself and your family, whatever your circumstances. Stop cribbing and focus on the good this nation has to offer, not only to you, but to your children and future generations to come and thank the Good Lord for it!
Well said Francis. Many people are quick to criticize Canada and other western countries. Atleast these countries offer citizenship after living there for ten years. In the UAE, you can live there for 30 years, and if you ask for citizenship, you will be laughed at. Of course, the UAE has offered citizenship to people, but that was in the old days.
But in Canada the government can now take away your citizenship without any legal recourse and without even letting you know why it was taken away! Go and read up about it, as many people’s citizenship have already been revoked and it is still going on!
Very well said Francis. I have been in Canada since 1970, worked, lived, married , raised a family and even have grand children and never regretted it. Sure everyone has to work hard and build their futures through hardship and trials, no one promised me a “rose garden.” Life is what you make of it, many people expect everything without working for it, nothing comes free, you have to work for what you want. Canada is a great country, come and see!!
Mr Francis I totally disagree with your comment, as its not the same when you migrate in this decade, back in the day it was great and India and other countries have made better progress and improved lifestyles.
Thats true, people write articles based on their own experiences whether positive or negative. If we, as readers are not careful to analyze the article and whats the intention or motive of the author, then we will end up believing everything we read, much more so the authors opinion which may not be objective as we expect it to be. With the advent of the internet and the proliferation of electronic media, anybody can write about anything and the readers may tend to consider the author as expert on the subject matter, apparently most of them are not.
There’s a lot of bias in this article particularly its failure to consider the experiences of other people who were able to secure much better future in Canada, compared to what they had back in their home countries. The author appears to be sour graping for we all know that not all who migrated to Canada have experienced the same sorry experience he had. Migrating to another country to aspire for a better future has a lot of factors that goes along with it and your success depends on these critical factors. These are your age, your academic credentials (level of intellect and your English proficiency), professional experiences and certifications, your financial stability, not to mention your physical and psychological preparedness that will help you hurdle the perceived challenges. In short, its all about preparation … how equipped you are to hurdle the challenges and how passionate you are to make a better life in a foreign county.
Sooo true! Canada is a wonderful country and I feel extremely blessed to be have been born here and be a Canadian. I am a none-white Muslim by the way. Its true I have never been or lived in the Middle East but I have heard lots from those who have lived there. A friend of mine who lived in the Middle East once told me that no matter how long you live there or how much money you make you will ALWAYS feel like a second class citizen. He also said that if a foreigner gets into a car accident with a local, the foreigner is automatically assumed at fault, no matter the circumstances. What kind of stupid unjust law is that? In Canada we enjoy social justice and respect for human dignity that are lacking in many other countries. Sure its not perfect, but where on earth is? And it is sure a hell of a lot better than many other places.
I am not even capable of commenting on this crap! (I really wish if everyone would get to read this)
I have been in exactly similar condition like you. Middle East first and then in April 2009 we had moved to Canada. My parents and so many of my relatives have been earning at an extremely high level in Abu Dhabi. Yet they had planned for us to move to Canada.
Here is a reality check, Bimal: Why you had chosen to come to Canada in beginning of 2009? Because you were kicked out of UAE due to the huge recession in Middle East… and seriously you did not even have any other option because you had already bad-mouthed the street crimes and political conditions in back home.
When you and your entire family was going through a mental trauma, Canada is the country which gave you shelter, provided worry free medical and emotional support. So much so that until now you hadn’t been able to complain because you were getting 400$ per child per month of support as long as you were considered as a low income family. We wish that rather than complaining about not being treated as a queen in this country, you would have spent some time in educating yourself about the economies which are run by people and what are the reasons behind welcoming so many helpless and less fortunate brothers and sisters on this piece of land.
You are not enjoying your work in this country because you are still counting your big bucks which that fools paradise (Middle East) was offering you. You are still talking about the silly high life dubai and how you had maids in your house, big BMW’s parked down stairs and the high end apartment where you were paying atleast 3K$/Month for a single bedroom unit.
You are talking about having a Mortgage in Canada, means i am sure you bought a house in this country… (The reality is, if you would have purchased a house in 2010 or even 2011, your real estate would have given you at least 400K by now in 5 years). And that is on top of your purchase price. There is no other country which offers that sort of earning LOL…..
I wish i would have more time to give all of you a reality check!
Humans are such insensitive and thankless creatures!
Mr Parvaiz, you are presuming way too much about the author’s life. How do know that she was kicked out of UAE? How do you know she started getting $400 per child in Canada (when all their children are grown up)? How do know that you could have made 400K by now if she had bought a house in 2010? If she sold her house and made 400K, don’t you think the new house she will buy to live in will cost even more? Where has she bad-mouthed the back country? Everybody has different experiences.
you are incorect in telling that there is no other country than canada with property prices increased…. come to Sydney, Auckland and you will find property prices have increased more than canadian cities 🙂
Don’t you get any benefits there? And yes its a good advise to not have a rosy picture in mind however, it’ll be a good idea to be open to challenges which peoply face in India as well. You may also like to recall your experience in Dubai as well during initial years! Never give up my friend best is about to come and everything is temporary!!..
I live in Goa and many Goans have settled in Canada over the last half century and continue to go there. There are many reasons why people migrate. It is mostly the Goan Catholic who emigrate and most do so because y they feel uncomfortable with increasing tendency here towards Hindu fundamentalism. So for Goans migration is a escape from an uncertain future. Most people I have spoken to feel safe and non discriminated in Canada. The reasons why you migrate also have a bearing on how you feel in your new country. Thus a Sharma or a Dixit or such other may not feel as comfortable in Canada as a Goan.
Why cannot we see each other as human beings first, instead of dividing us into Catholics and then further into goans, East Indians, mangaloreans. At the end of life’s very short journey, this distinction makes zero sense. We all meet the same fate.
I like that Joan!!
I migrated to Canada in 2015 and I have read this story when I was to come here. I am surprised that people normally take positive examples while taking decision rather than negative one. And this is the first example where negative is taken into account.
Personally in my opinion there will be two kinds of cases for every decision:
A. Positive examples
B. Negative examples
So we can’t really say that we look at the positive examples and take a decision in favor or an opposed decision in case we take negative examples.
Every individual is different and it depends upon our circumstances skills, luck, hardwork etc. that will decide what is good for us is not.
My experience has been good. I got a job in around 17 days and that too in my field. So read these stories positive or negative as a guideline rather than guide. Listen to your heart and evaluate options before going ahead.
What is your field, Rohit?
I am a Sr. Technology Consultant.
There is one serious issue developed and will be more critical is the attraction of Canada and USA or UK for Indians is due to Indian ladies who is only believe in more and more luxurious life like Europeans or Americans. The wife’s and mother’s who has full control on their sons and husbands compelled them to stay away from India to show their so called status and want to live social free life. Its a bad luck of such sons and husbands to obeyed by such woman’s in their life. This kind of ladies are ready to wash utensils in restaurants and changing bed sheets in motels but not ready to live like Queen in India. Really a bad luck.
My nephew, a Pilani educated engineer, with years of industrial experience migrated to Canada for a better future. He is now a bus driver, but says he is happy being just that. So what is one mans sauce is another’s poison. Each one has to decide for himself what he wants from Canada and life.
Having earned a good amount of money in the Gulf, why would someone want to move to Canada?
Do you mean to say that your motherland is not worth going back to?
People who migrate are cutting their own roots.
Go work abroad but come back to your real home. No other place in the world can be as comfortable as home!
HATS OFFFFFFFFFF ..SUCH A TRUE ADVICE!!!
Well said. Most kids here move out at 18 and visit only at Christmas, Father’s Day, Mother’s Day.
I feel no place like Home. Where ur parent are. Money follows
Canada is the best country in the world no doubt but when you intend to migrate here you must have the right skill and age is also a factor. The work style is different you must know your trade to stay competitive and if you know French then this helps a great deal. My son is Canadian but been working in Dubai for the last 8 years since his skills were much required overseas then here and in his case it made sense. Dubai is not for ever and one day he has to return and this is a concern. Engineers in general have no great difficulties in finding work here specially in Telecommunication. There is no doubt that the job market is tight these days for non professionals and one has to be careful before making any moves to this great country. I lived and worked both in UK and US and can compare the differences. You have to gauge every thing and see if it will work for you.
You should NOT come to Canada. Your life equation is based only on money. To the moderator, we do not need opportunists like you in this great Country. If your husband is unable to compete, do not blame the Country. What stops you from going back till India? Trust me, you will have same/similar problems in India too.
can also help some mony to poors.
When you are earning an interest of Rs 2+ Lac per in India from your Savings, I really don’t understand why you cant think of moving back to India.
Apart from this, you are still saving close to 50 lac a year from your current JOB. With that kind of wealth, you, your son and your grandson can have a king size life. What not you cant buy with that money in India? You can get your son top class education at any top ranking schools in India. Moreover if you want you can still remain in Dubai and travel 6 times to India to be with your family.
With a corpus of 10Cr, you can have a well deserved high quality retired Life in India.
There is absolutely no need to shift to Canada.
India and much of Asia is very crowded and in some places, there is a lot of problems with infrastructure and security, among other things.
Hi I am 40 years old working in a government investment firm in Dubai. My salary earnings in cash per year converted to CAD is 130,000 CAD. Apart from that I have a 3 bedroom house by my company in dubai. And medical facilities too are free. Education for my child is covered by my company in dubai. After all my expenses I save 47 lakhs indian rupees a year which is 90,000 CAD. I am a chartered financial analyst. I have a 7 year old child. My wife is software engineer. I have got PR of canada. Please can you all give honest advise. I have 20 years of service left in Uae which will give me 10 crore indian rupees which is close to 2 million Cad. In the last recession and now too the company has not fired people because it is a large government wealth fund. My objective of immigrating to canada is only for my child as i don’t want him to go to India. I have only one child. I am thinking of sending my wife and child to canada and working in Uae but my heart breaks to leave them away from me. Please advise your honest opinion. I am so depressed as I am unable to take a decision. I have currently interest income from my bank in India of approximately 4000 Cad per month which can be used to survive in canada.Does it make sense to leave a secured job and go for canada or split the family. Thank you all. Please do not hesitate to give ur honest advise.
No, it doesn’t make sense for you to leave your well-paying job. There are so many people who have left their families in Canada to keep their jobs abroad. Be practical, not sentimental. Send your wife and kid to Canada, keep your job and visit them three or four times years.
Thank you for your advise. I am going to get European passport soon as there is a facility for people born in Goa to get Portugal passport. In such a situation where I get the passport does it make sense to spilt the family for canada for 4 years?
leaving such a good job and either going to canada or sending the family doesnt make sense. its all about using up ur savings first and later its about survival…
my brother worked for Emirates airlines, he had a AED 45,000 job, he quite that went to canada 1 yr after sending his family. i dont even want to explain what happened with him. end result is that you have the citizenship of canada but u lost all ur lifetime savings which was a lot btw. and u lost the most prestigious job. and u lost the hope of things getting better as uve already crossed middle age
The same fate as the one posted.. but since we are here already.. we have to sacrifice for the kids..we are working in tim hortons.. at least we have free medical free education.. but the rent is so high.. anyway if I have a chance ill be back in the Phil. At least there we have our own house and employed in a professional job
I would suggest you to make a priority list of your life. Don’t base it on to someone else’s experience. By earning so much what do you want. Time spend with ur kid at this age is precious & will never come back. In most of the migration you may not earn well or great as u are doing now, but you get quality of life, which you wanted to get in India after earning crores of rupees. If you are getting that standard with a normal job, why do you want to waste ur time putting 16 hrs in job to earn that money. If ur aim to get rich, it’s not a good decision. If you are happy being with your family & earn less & use that time for what u really want to do in life & spend with family then this is the way. Furget fancy thoughts & go to basics & think which is important for you if u look back 10 years latter. This tons of money will lead u nowhere. Time will never come back. Think about it. I would say discuss with your family rather than with unknown people on net. Their dreams are very different. What makes ur family & u happy is the good decision & whatever outcome is u all will handle it together. Life is suppose to be fun with ur good & bad decisions. U will not enjoy life if you be insecure all the time. Why do u want to take annual leave to enjoy holiday in foreign country. Have holiday every day by living in such locations & spend more time with family. Listen to ur heart & family, which u r claiming this decision is for. You are not born to earn & pay off bills. There is never too late to start again. If u are really skilled you are going to built what u have built again. Be prepare for that. Built from scratch & be bold & proud about it. This money u r earning i am sure would have given u lot of stress too. Take a break, chill for a while & built it again. Hope this will be helpful. Thanks
agreed with you.. 🙂
agreed..
This is sound advice. It helped me as well, although in a different situation.
people must read this article…. its for all …NRI,INDIANS,AMERICANS,Etc…. afterall life is about having memories wid family friends..and how much people’s heart you earn….
It is indeed!! I am from England and thought the transition would be straightforward. Alas, everything in Canada is Canada focused. They want experience from Canada despite many years with a multinational like Coca-Cola, same applies to credit checks, must be from Canada when the same credit company they are using exists in Europe and only matter of using one’s address. Education is same and the list continues. In a time when rest of the world have moved beyond such sentiments, you then realize quickly that it is to give better advantage to the Canadians who are usually, less qualified and experienced but, will be considered ahead of you. Could not take it anymore so, packed my bags and left. It is not for everyone.
My dear friend I don’t know what are your believes.If you believe in your creater God Father of Lord Jesus Christ I can advice you to surrender all your fears to you. Because no friend could give totally honest advice because only God knows the future.you may be doing really well in Dubai.mummy but anything could happen overnight night and loose everything.so just trust God read the Bible ask God.and don’t forget to sow what you reap.because bible say we reap what we sow.remember God when you are prosperous.spend time with God he will give you the best advice.then you will have peace of mind.I came to Canada only trusting God and He has taken care of me and given me the best.and Bible says what you say you will have.that means if you keep saying negative stuff you will be negative.Seems like God had blessed you already be thankful and be grateful to God.
well said Chrishanthi.. We all should be thankful to God.
wow awesome
What the hell is this god talk? All he was asking for was advice, not a sermon !
This is just my two cents. People will lambast you for being too much “in the comfort zone” or that you have no long term goals. On the other hand, you have dreams of wanting a better life for yourself or for family.
Personally, I think you should learn to draw the line of when enough is enough for you. Humans are generally hard to please. We keep desiring more things in life but never actually achieving that one thing that puts them in balance: Satisfaction.
Learn to be thankful and satisfied with what you have as others may not be as lucky as you. As for me, as long as I can travel from time to time, indulge in a few fancy meals every now and then and pay the rent , I have no desire to seek something better no matter how many marketing BS someone tries to sell me about how my life is not enough.
Yes it is right keep your job! Let your wife and child come to have secure life but you have to face circumstances renting a place to live is expensive. Getting a mortgage place will bring you into poverty if anything happens in the future. To live in Canada is to show your affection of LOVE that you are willing to pay tax that will help indigent people.If you are only for money and no hearts than this country is not for you and your family. Learn to have dignity and not a parasite in this country, not to be under social welfare later on. If you are under social welfare your not allowed to visit your country without permission and as long your out of the country social welfare will stop supporting you even Unemployed money that support you when you loose your job ,your not allowed to go out of Canada or anywhere outside your city , They are computerized when you live the country, not unless someone from the family is sick and dying. Face the reality you will loose some CA$ for the first year to live here.The minimum (indigent)amount to live here for one person is $11,000.00 in a year.
Sending you family to Canada and keep yourself for working here is the best option but be careful cuz I did the same and now my kids don’t know me or even care if I am visiting then 6 times a year, family is much more important than money and your kid’ future is worth more than 130K Canadian Dollar
You have to think twice cuz it is not an easy way
To be honest, many people in the Gulf states have lost their well paying jobs, the truth will always remain, if they can find a local individual to do your job, they will. And once that happens, good bye.
Fortunately I am in a technical job where we are involved in dealing amount in millions. Therefore for last 10 years there has been no job cuts and replacement by any local. I know no job is job for life but I am about to get Portugal passport as I am from Goa their former colony. So I will have a backup.
Congratulations. Once you have a Portuguese passport you can move to the UK or other European countries. Do it as soon as you can. What sort of technical work do you do?
After BREXIT, one (Goans with Portuguese passport) cannot get a free entry to the UK as it was before June 2016. With Portuguese passport, Goans dream destination was UK over other EU countries which is not possible now…My brothers- in- law are stuck there and may come back to Goa soon…
I certainly like you … but i must tell you that one big uncertainty is we can never call this our land. We lose our jobs .. we have to pack our bags. If there is no Job then all goes including medical etc. Am tired of this uncertainty . Your country has been such a place of joy as long as you have a well paying job . House rents have gone up , kids schooling fees have increased .
Sultan we love your country , but i would want my Kids to go to a place where they can call it their home. Where they need not worry for basic sustenance .
Don’t make the mistake of leaving a well paid job, and also do not separate the family. The grass always looks greener on the other side. Canada is not doing too well economically, and it is hard to find good jobs. If you have a good job, in the Gulf, just forget abot Canada. Once you have enough earnings, your kid can always go to Canada, if he so wishes to. Given your job, and your savings potential, it is best you remain in Dubai. Please take this as an honest advice, as I have been there, and I know what it is like.
So u got all that and stll thinking of running away of middle east, amd sure just all other asians u would still call arabs names and everything! Ibhope one day wecwould make it really hard for non-arabs to come and get jobs unless u meet some requirements just like the canadian requirements! An arabic language test, security check, etc… I have been with asians for years and theyvgot all that gd life in arab world yet I could hear 90 ٪ calling us names and bad words as i understand urdu. I only salute Canada and indeed a factory job would completely fit you!
Then tell me, why do many Arabs run to Canada, UK and other countries in the West? Look at all the Asians and Westerners who do all these jobs in the Gulf states because many Arabs are quite lazy. What about those Arabs who call Asians bad names, do you ignore that? Remember, with the expats and foreign money, the Gulf countries are nothing. I know, the truth hurts.
I meant to say, without the expats and foreign money, the Gulf countries are nothing.
Lol, I like it Mr.Sultan.
what u have red in her article are the most common cycle in canada or even in US .. they have very high standard when it comes to high paying job .. not to mention if you’re not white u will not be the first in line .. dont matter if u graduate top in your school elsewhere or if you have experience you will always be their second choice .. As for buying a decent house there she’s also right about being tied up in a mortgage god forbid if u loose your job and will be living in the streets of Canada. If you are somewhat determine to live in Canada make sure you have tons and tons of money to at least start your own business .. this is your income/ job / money security inside Canada.. abide in their rules on how to conduct your own business .. your own business that will give you continuous income also secure your mortgages in the house that u will own and for the study of your kids .. if u will send your kid and your wife there .. they will have to cope with a different culture .. your kid specially in school .. and if you are not with them your child’s culture will be different than yours as far as what you expect him to grow up .. example the caring part or tradition that you once hold dear will be lost along the way. .. The way you have right now .. what you have .. its too risky to trade everything for something that is new and you dont have a clue on what you’re putting yourself into or your family .. One thing i can say to you is that .. decide what’s best for your family if you are already comfortable and dont want to give up what you have .. then dont .. you probably old as it is so .. you already know the job competition in a different land .. experience will be less important compare to the ethnic group you’re in… but this is just my opinion on how you can decide better for yourself and your family .. whatever it is you will decide .. may God bless you .. and take care.
Just apply to get PR Card and renew it after every 5 years as second option. Canada is good for unsettled less educated people not well settled.
That’s a mean thing to say, Amjad. I m very highly educated and all I wanted was a good future for my children and alhamdolillah I have it. We had to struggle for 7 yrs but went back to school did all kind of odd jobs and now working with the govt, good secure n well paid jobs . I guess we got lucky but worked hard to reach here . Cheers
Ya You send him india . he can visit or you can visit monthly or when needed becouse life ups and downs will be ther .
Don’t leave your UAE Job and send your wife and kids to Canada. They’ll get Canadian passports and your son will never be required to go back to India.
The only thing that will matter most to you is the three years you have to spend in UAE without them. I think these 3 will be worth it.
These days there are more flights from the UAE to Canada. Unlike the older days.
not before securing the same level job over there.
This is one side of the coin, there are people like me who came, work hard and conquer. Yes, I have also done many odds jobs at the start but eventually, I got in my profession and at the moment working as a scientist and at the same time getting a doctoral degree. I will suggest sending your wife and son first, then look for a job by paying a headhunter for a professional job. This is the land of opportunity. Going India is not the bad idea but if you will not try, you will always have regret. Give yourself some deadline by that time get your passport and if in case if you won’t make it go to India or UAE again.
LOVELY SUGGESTION FATIMA…..APPRECIATE IT !! NO PERSON IS LOST UNTIL HE OR SHE TRIES…! CHEERS!! VERY INSPIRATIVE ADVICE!!!
That’s what I call positive thinking, I m glad Fatima that you have this suggestion. Life is full of ifs and buts, so unless you don’t try you never know
Fatima,
Many of us get into our professions but still not at the level we were at. I had colleagues back in Eutooe from various parts of the world who did not have to go through what I see professionals going through in Canada, makes no sense!! Getting into your profession whilst even the boss is less experienced than you is not what one expects but is the reality of most expats and that is if they get the jobs. For those who come from nothing and little education, it is “land of opportunity” to them as they can only go but up. If you are already very well read and used to travels etc, this place isn’t it!!
Really amazing that you got this far man. I’ve been working for three years in finance as a research analyst. Through dumb luck i got into investment research private equity and asset management. But nothing works for me. I am confused if i should change my career or not. On the other hand I haven’t even been able to give my 100% to it. Now i am thinking about marketing but i don’t know if i should change my career or keep going.
What is your qualification and from where ???
Hi
I would say you should get your PR but don’t try to move in Canada . I have spent 18 years in Toronto just try to get their PR card you are making handsome money which is very hard to make in canada
My elder brother was executive engineer in pakistan prime minister house. Like u he intended and then went to canada for permanant residence. Now after 15 yers he is doing enginering job but he worked in bakery and as a security gaurd. Dont make mistake. Think hundred time before any decision. Dr. Anis
Hello, I had a chance to migrate to USA in 1993 but after visiting USA I came to know that what I I could make there will be half of my UAE salary. I stayed back and made reasonable money to live with and children are settled. My friend migrated to Canada, sent his wife and children first and now he lost this family totally. I don’t understand what is the problem in India as people are having a high profile life there. Every country has their own problems and where ever you go there will be racial discrimination. I think it is better to be in your grandfather’s country than be treated as an alien.
With all due respect. Just because “people have a high profile life” in India, does not mean, that the rest enjoy the same lifestyle. Obviously there are those who are unable to do so, and they look at other options. You might be making a good living in the UAE, but this is not the same for others. This is certainly not the same for all occupations either.
Very Good response
If you have your papers in place welcome to the country! Canada is not a bed of roses but it is better than all other countries.
You have the best education for free. We migrated when our kids finished their ‘A’ levels in Dubai 18 years ago. We are now well settled.
It takes everyone at least 10 years to get a good job and live comfortably in this country.
Come and check it out for yourself – leave your wife and child here as someone suggested earlier. Visit them often. If you like it here move in, if not go back to India.
If you are Goan, you will like it here!!
Free? You are living in a fools paradise. There are no free lunches. Everything comes out of your tax dollars, be it tax on things you buy or property tax that is just sky rocketing every year. So don’t think anything is free, you are paying for everything.
There is no FREE in Canada!!!! If you are belong to indigent that don’t earn enough money you will fall in a long line to apply for money for to live and your income should be $25,000.00 below to get food bank (how pity those people I have seen) and
some live in a shelter place, means your under social welfare. Student fund is given only to those indigent family. Student loan you have to pay later on.If you are indigent in your country and no good work no higher education ,Canada is the best for those parasite people. Some have a lucky life living in Canada. but never been so rich as far as I know you will be in a worse situation if you are old and lots of medical problem.
What qualifications and which country MBA is required to become an investment banker in UAE
Read my comment or contact me for more advice!
My only advise to you is just listen to this song from the movie “Naam” in which Sanjay Dutt, Amrita Singh, Kumar Gaurav and Nutanji have acted. This song is sung by Mr.Pankaj Udhas. The songs lyrics are “Chhithi ayee hai ayee hai chhithi ayee hai…Chhithi ayee hai watan se chhithi ayee hai” and automatically you will make up your mind and decide what will be your next step…
Really true…
Chitthi aayi hain song…
Great suggestion to listen song, you will definitely know what you want after hearing it.
Don’t hurry up. Think several times before making a decision. I think UAE is better prospect than Canada.
If u r not happy with ur own country it will be difficult for u to be happy any where in the world. Ok, there may have different perspective of being settled in different part of the world. You are to make the choice what u r to prefer to, and what u r to sacrifice. Only a self contended person feels him or herself happy no matter whereever he or she has been living at, or whatever condition he or she has been living in! Even one is in the heaven, one may have feeling of frustration of not finding one’s nearest and dearest one there! So, it would be wise to think what for one is planning to shift. There would be sure to leave something for achieving something. God bless all!
DONT leave! But they want you to immigrate, unless you get refugee status you get many benefits at the tax payers expense, to get a good job is extremely very difficult you are not educated in Canada form school so it will be a job as a taxi driver, customer service, factory worker, waiter in fast food, security guard and your savings will all vanish as you spend to survive, and you will be surprised how fast how fast the time comes in your struggle to survive you have no savings and a negative bank balance as the system is about credit, the better credit history the higher is your score to get a higher mortgage or line of credit, your education and experience has zero value, back in the day it was good to migrate not any more now its expensive and not worth, I was from Goa so I could get a Portuguese passport that too does not have much value after Brixit, remember: Life in India is the best!
As a highly qualified college graduate who immigrated to Canada 10 years ago, (I advise you) please keep you fund and savings and go back to India , take your family with you , they don’t welcome immigrants here. You will treated very badly, the government will tax you on every CD$ you have just to keep it in the bank you be taxed as well, then they will tax you every month on your property as property tax, then pay high bills for gas , electric , …etc just because you own a house in a very expensive area. end of the night you got no one to talk to except only your own community Indians. No Canadians or whatsoever will take you as a friend as they call you here weird even if you speak English well because your accent shows you are not born in here , so it’s the same ,you are going to the same temple, contacting the same Indian community, speaking the same dialogue. All my Indian rich people went to back. Now when you son grows up as a Canadian, he is going to waste your money like rain and he is not going to finish the school and you will regret coming here.
You hit the nail on the head!
Hello! My friend
Frankly speaking no matter many people have replied to your query? looking at your confused status i would like to advice u as a brother. Please STICK TO WHAT YOU HAVE IN HAND YOUR BEAUTIFUL DUBAI LIFE AS A KNOWN DEVIL IS BETTER THAN A UNKNOWN ANGEL. You have struggled and reached this stage in life think about the time when u really were trying to get this opportunity in dubai and this was the world for you. After years of hardwork and strugge you have reached this junction and having a family you trying to play blind is not advisible.
All the best in life
Better stay where you are and continue savings.I’m here in Canada for almost 11 years my diploma as a dentist is only for toilet or washroom as a housekeeper.Still in the school. Dentist here no much patient too. Expensive place to rent a clinic and taxes . Recession time and the highest percent of no job is Alberta. Tax even you are retired. Your life will be full of frustration.Stay where you are. Keep on saving. Renting a bachelor suite cost me $1000 a month ,that is the reason I work 2 job 7 days in a week I look myself like a beggar. I plan something in the future if everything goes wrong. God bless you! Your degree will be useless, you need to study more and more and you may take student loan that you have to pay. What if you can’t get a job?
Ok which country u belong?I am an Indian dentist looking to emigrate to canada,is it worth to immigrate der or I have to do menial job
Indian-origin dentists are doing very very well in Canada. After upgrading you credentials as per Canadian requirements, you won’t have any problem.
i heard foreign trained indian dentists are doing well there
Dont move and dont send your family away. Stay in Dubai and educate your child there. Once he clears his High School, send him to Canada to study there. Let him complete his studies and eventually settle there. This is what I did.
Im sorry if i sound offended because i was taken aback by your statement with u did not want your child to study in india. What is wrong with education in india … i understand the limitations with admission procedures .. but wats wrong with indian education. I understand the difference in education system but i guess somewhere in reality it helps us widen our logic. Wich syllabus is ur child studying in right now.
With respect to settling .. after having lived in abu dhabi seeing my parents slog day in and out … and after realising that though they had saved enuf for their retiring life to be spent at ease, if only they had decided to put a halt and come and start afresh in india.
Well thats wen i made up my mind and am happy being an indian resident.
Truly speaking settling anywhere else other than ur home country is baseless and stupidity .. life is a struggle everywhere but why add on to extra stress and tension when it comes to job and your home …
So you are saying that everyone should never leave their home country? Well, sorry but humans have been migrating for hundreds of years now..
Well said.
You can be together in Dubai. When your son is big enough, send him for higher education to Canada.
Hi there my friend 🙂 first of all, please dont be depressed. With all your abundant blessings, theres no reason to be depressed. It looks like youre in a cognitive dissonance at this point. Its like youre caught between two positive situations and you have to pick the best for you as you thought about it. Either or, youre in a win-win situation. If you migrate to Canada, be ready for the ups and downs as you will even come to the point where you want to regret your decision when your met with frustrations here and there, but never give up.
Listen to this, your advantage is that theres a big Indian population in Canada so in terms of cultural adjustment and networks, you and your family should be fine. Culture shock may be inevitable and may pose as a huge challenge but the biggest challenge is actually yourself for it really depends how far you want to go, or how bold you are to take the risk for the future of your family especially your child. Another plus for you is that you and your wife have admirable credentials so competitiveness in the job market may not be very difficult. You can also ask your current employer if its possible for you to come back so you have a fall back just in case – it may sound awkward but it wouldnt hurt to ask. Test the waters first, go there by yourself and do a research for about a few weeks to a month and if ever dont be afraid to be separated from your family because in the current global situation, millions of migrants and overseas workers are doing it and most of them becomes successful – but some are not. Its like a growing global trend now that more and more people migrate to other countries to see and experience things differently because for the most part, life is all about experiences.
Going to Canada is not a walk in the park for new immigrants. Most immigrants suffered the most critical initial stage which would last for about 1-3 years and then it will calm down. The next thing you know, you are enjoying it and youre not regretting your decision. With you and your wife’s current age and credentials, I could tell that you and your family will have a good chance of securing a bright future in Canada especially for your child. If you are already in your early or late fifties, then migrating to another country would be very difficult and I would honestly suggest for you to just stay where you are and keep your current job. Just go there as a tourist to visit. Most immigrants especially those from third world countries made progress when they migrate to more progressive nations but there are those who didnt make it or failed in their attempt to secure a better life – and its because of lack of preparation, psychologically and financially. Your childs future really depends on you and your wife as parents but environment has a very strong impact. Western cultures are more liberal when it comes to child rearing but Asian cultures thrive and maintain their conservative ideals, sense of discipline and respect to elders wherever they go, but then again social and environmental influence are huge challenges when you migrate to another country. My advice is weigh everything carefully and make an inventory of your credentials, your networks in canada, as well as your resources so you will have that sense of security if things go south. Talk to a lot of people especially your countrymen from India who are now living in Canada and they will give you varying opinions based on their actual experiences and from where you can draw your own perspectives. You can also talk to your friend from another background or culture who are now living in Canada. Once again, whether you gor for it or keep your current job in Dubai you should be fine although migrating to Canada will take a couple of years dealing with challenges. Once again, its gonna be yourself who you are up against with so prepare yourself psychologically and financially – one last thing, save lots and lots of money for peace of mind. Good luck!
I suggest keep your job and family together in Dubai. Then, when the time comes, send your kid to university or college in Canada. He can apply for Canadian immigrant for himself.
Prince, not sure why you want to move to Canada.
I have grown-up and lived here since 10 years old, now 37. I have been working for the past 12+years in senior management positions here, and I can tell you, you will never find any perks like that here in Canada. Also, the taxes are so high here that your disposable income is less than 50% of what your gross salary is after paying payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, etc. I can tell you most of the execs will not even save $500,000 CDN for their retirement over their life time. Moreover, house prices are going through the roof here, as you will spend more than half of your savings just on the house, and then the property taxes. Moreover, the schools are also not that great and has drug issues and all, unless you put your child in a private school, which you will need at least $30,000 CDN per annum.
So, think do you really want to do this?? Why you don’t want your son to live in India? With the money you could save, he could live like a king in India for generations…. I can tell you most the younger well educated Canadians will be renters here in Canada, as no one can afford a house loan for 1M as it would take at least two generations to pay off!
i am speaking on behalf of your child.
I am 33 years old, my father (now 67) too did the same thing you are going to do… about 20 years back.
Till date… I curse the day my father took the decision to let us shift to another place while he worked and stayed alone in the gulf.
My adoloscent years without my father cost me dearly. I had a troubled childhood and teenage life… no body was there to talk to.
my mother was busy taking care of me and my sister… but i needed a father.
No money in this world will be enough to replace the love and physical presence and guidance of my father i needed at that time as a child.
Don’t shift….
no matter how good the education is abroad, nothing compares to the wisdom and love of a father.
Don’t let your child grow up without a father.
Don’t become an ATM for your child. Raise you child by being next to them.
My mother suffers from depression because of being so many years away from my father.
My sister has had issues of child molestation by one of our own relatives… she suffers from depression too… but somehow managed to come out of it.
If my father was there… he would have stopped it from happening or atleast made them answerable to it.
money cannot replace the father’s presence.
yes he loves me…. but i will never forgive him for that decision to leave me to another country.
I don’t want his money… I want the time i lost with my dad.
I pray you don’t leave your child’s side.
From a man with a lost childhood.
take care
mng
It’s good to have the Canadian citizenship .. And good for your kids grownup in Canada …
I use to lives in UAE 10 years ago for 8 years
What you make in UAE is vary good..
You will not make it in Canada now..
Maybe after years yes
Family is everything. Canadians hate immigrants! They get $8 from the gov and $8 from the employer. So, it’s cheaper to hire a foreigner. It also pisses us off when foreigners are too selfish to visit their family back home. They wait at least 4 years to get their PR and don’t give a shit about anyone else but themselves and what they can get from our government. Also, our country is in an oil and lumber recession and Canadians are committing suiside over getting laid off who have families to feed. Our government keeps letting people in for extra tax $, but there are no jobs for Canadian. They just keep coming by the thousands too. Soon, Canada will be in poverty as well.
I disagree with ur opinion author.. don’t know what’s ur situation now.. but let me tell you I know my cousins who are qualified from India who have landed good paying jobs without sacrificing their egos. It’s how u think life is going to take u.. yes there are loads of immigrants in this land.. it’s also patience u require to get a good job.. on the road to success there’s always some difficulty faced.. but in the end it all works for the good.. so what do u mean by people workingat gas station or Tim Hortons?? Aren’t they humans working too?? Is that a job too?? See it all depends on how u see life.. I have half my family in Canada and the rest in the united States… if u seek for the opportunity..u will definitely land one.. it requires constant effort trying.. I lived in Dubai for years and today I see myself much better off than being in Dubai.. that’s a bigger shit hole.. let me ask u.. don’t u have medical benefits provided by the government??? Isnt that a big plus to ur annual pay check.. I’m just giving my point of view.. it’s not an easy life migrating to a country where the lookout on perspective of life is different..am sure ur kids will have a bright future.. by the way I’m a software engineer.. n my wife is a teacher..
Almost every country has some form of government health care, if not people can get health insurance from there work, or healthcare is fairly cheaper. If you want to die waiting for a doctor, then you can consider it good health care. Health care is a big problem, and the non of the income tax goes towards healthcare. Its all used for debt, military.
This is the most absurd article I’ve read in a long time, either the writer was totally negative in his or her thinking and ability to work to a positive something or they didn’t network with the right folks. I know many who left Dubai the same time 2009 and are doing great and wished they left Dubai earlier. In life you need to plan and if you don’t plan and things fall apart you can’t blame anyone but yourself. Canada still is and will be the best place for family to live and grow, so those thinking of moving don’t get dishearten reading this article, the grass is a lot greener there than Dubai, you don’t find anything green here, I mean Dubai…
Maybe for like 10% of the population. Our situation wasn’t that well, and so are many others. Why would someone leave better job stability, family, and start here working minimum wage to make the rich richer? Most are fooling others in believing there is opportunity. Likewise you can land a good job, but expect it to take ages and spend the rest of your life paying off debt.
Hello Moderator,
Why there’s so much problem in getting good jobs in Canada? Is the problem same in Australia or New Zealand?
Because there are not many many jobs here except low-wage ones.
Hello Guys,
I have completed my high school from India. I am planning to study in Canada for undergraduate in computer science. After completing there I am planning to study further in USA. Is it better to do like this because it is very difficult to get visa for USA directly after high school.
My Ultimate destination is USA.
So Please HELP me to decide what is better.
Hi Moderator
I am an MBA in Finance from a prestigious MBA school in India and have 10 years experience in Real Estate Consulting, valuation, fund raising and real estate investment banking in India with experience in companies like Cushman and Wakefield, Colliers International and CBRE. I am now looking to shift to Canada and plan to do CPA as well.
Do you think I shall have good job prospects in Canada. I am 36 years old.
You can try your luck with these global real estate companies in Canada.
Hi all, I hv 8+ yrs of administion n HR experience in India. Worked in different region in my career. I tried PR Australia n Canada to go thr frm here wit a job in hand n tired many consultants whom
I felt wr bot trust worthy n promising. During my trying time, few of my frnds told even if I get an Australian PR, any co or I hv to sponsor for my visa, n company hv to show the Australian govt tat, in Australia tat (company which is offering me a job n visa) company cudnt find any skillset n experience / expert in tat particular field, so they ( company) r hiring a person frm India, dis statement of purpose of hiring shud b stated to govt of Australia. Is tat true, pls le’me kno
Hi I’m looking to move to Canada to start a new life. Although I’m professionally qualified and experienced in health electronics, I have moved towards project management and consultancy and have extensive public health experience and have done a lot of humanitarian work. 3 years ago I was offered a management position with a global US corporation out of the UK. I’m just below 30 and should be able to get PR. I’m a native English speaker who has mostly lived in the UK, with degree and diplomas from London.
I am interested to know what breath of engineering work, particularly within interdisciplinary project management, there is Canada. I have seen a lot of positions in Quebec for French speakers but my level of French is barely conversational so this isn’t an option.
I plan to work for some years but I have alternative plans in the long-term as I’m far more interested in small business opportunities in small provinces but I need to have work initially to build up my network. I’d prefer not to do “survival jobs” but I’m quite happy to work in a “junior” position in a small city.
My compelling underlying reason to migrate is not professional but out of a human rights necessity and need to migrate urgently, Canada or Australia, else I will not survive in my present circumstances.
Please advise.
Hi all, I hv 8+ yrs of administion n HR experience in India. Worked in different region in my career. I tried PR Australia n Canada to go thr frm here wit a job in hand n tired many consultants whom
I felt wr bot trust worthy n promising. During my trying time, few of my frnds told even if I get an Australian PR, any co or I hv to sponsor for my visa, n company hv to show the Australian govt tat, in Australia tat (company which is offering me a job n visa) company cudnt find any skillset n experience / expert in tat particular field, so they ( company) r hiring a person frm India, dis statement of purpose of hiring shud b stated to govt of Australia. Is tat true, pls le’me kno
Hi i am a densist in india . And i have 5 years of experience. Is it a better option to migrate to canada??
I hope you didn’t immigrate to Canada, because the medical profession in Canada is a closed circle secret society that will absolutely prevent outsiders from becoming medical professionals unless you are part of the club.
I am an Asian and within a month I secured an entry level banking job in one of the leading Canadian banks, my story took a good start untill I was deputed in one of the branch who were first generation migrants. Middle aged Canadians feared me as if I was there to take their jobs, while 1st generation migrants were avoiding to talk to me, I was not taught anything (I was on official training) and left to be alone so that I get frustrated and leave the job. This is passive racism. There is no wramth except from some asian immigrants like me. Feeling very alone and sad. There are no growth opportunities as I see immigrants working at the same level for 10 years !!! Again a mortgage makes life hell !! you are in a cob web, salaries are meager, average being 50k-70k which is not sufficient to live a decent life. Some one rightly said, look for USA if you really want to earn money and grow in professional life, migrants are much accepted in USA than in Canada. I report to a manager who is 10 years younger to me, half of my education and experience and knowledge too, but yes he is a Canadian !!
Hi Everyone
I am a 30 yrs old, having 6yrs IT experience as an Oracle DBA and working in a good MNC with 60K salary. I have done B.Tech in Computers. I want to permanently migrate to Canada.I am married and my wife is expecting.Please suggest
Thanks,
Sarrab
If you want to migrate to Canada, then don’t waste your time. You are already 30. But life here will be very tough (financially ans socially) to begin with and it will take some time for you to settle.
Hi Everyone!
I am a 38 yrs old, having 12yrs IT experience as a developer and working in a good MNC with 1Lac salary. I want to immigrate to Canada to get good job + salary, free education for children and free health insurance. This is what I heard about Canada from the consultants.
Please suggest me.
Thanks,
Venu
Hello,
I am currently working as marketing manager in African continent having experience of 2.5 years.
I have done b.tech electronics and MBA in marketing.
Also I have good knowledge of French language.
Could you please provide your kind suggestions
Hi,
I am working as Research Asscociate in MNC, having 5 years of experience in plant tissue culture/biotechnology. Can I get a job there with respect to my experience?
please help me out guys !
i’m planning to take my Diploma course after my plus two studies in Canada .
i’m taking this course at Mohawk College of Applied Arts and Technology ,Hamilton,Ontario,Canada and
the course is Computer Systems Technician – Network Systems 2 years .
i’m looking forward to study with part time there to get my living expenses there.
i’m a member of average family income in india and i’m planning to take loan for studying out there
PLEASE HELP ME OUT GUYS MY LIFE IS IN YOUR HANDS
IS IT GOOD THERE AND CAN I PAY THE MONEY BACK TO INDIA FOR PAYING LOAN DEBUTS
Hello ,
I am an engineer having experience in solar industry for 10 years in Dubai. I got PR status to Canada , and I am also selected in one of the top 3 Canadian Bschools, I am planning pursue MBA in Canada and then look out for the decent job. But the comments here and experiences of some immigrants have created big confusion , whether to pursue migration to Canada . Could you please advise if my plan could work.
KMG, the biggest blunder you will make with yourself will be immigrating to Canada. Stay away from the trap named “Canada”.
Heloo i want to come to canada for study and ultimatly to settel there …sholud i do?
Dear sir
I have applied for a work permit to canada and got a offer letter from a canadian company with 3000$ per month salary as a clerk on the basis of 12th standard . i applied my work permit by a indian consultancy. So anyone can tell the truth of this oppurtunity that can i earn like this monthly salary 3000$CAD. Please reply it can be a scam or can be true. However consultancy is not taking any kind of charges in india like embassy fee, medical fee, other charges etc. It is all with no fee. Some money would be reduced from my salary wfor some month only a few money would be taken from my salary like 10% of my monthyl salary for 2 years or its depend on me that how i want to deduct from my salary. Anyone who went to canada on contract basis can tell that is everything right as we deal with consultancy with a wriye aggryment on a paper. Please tell it is possible to migrate canada with free of cost.
Its a SCAM.
No clerk in Canada makes $2000 per month, what to talk of 3000.
HI, I am IT professional with 6 years of experience. I am thinking of migrating to other countries. My first preference is Canada and other preference are Denmark, Australia, New Zealand.
What will be the best choice and all the countries treat Indians like the way it is being described in all of the comments.
Nilesh,
The people commenting here are not lying. They are telling the truth, which no immigration consultant will tell you. Stay in India, which is the best country to live. All the people commenting here came to know all the truth after immigrating to Canada. So, stay in India. Stay blessed. That’s the best advice.
This country runs on tax and lots of it comes from migrants, (not to mention a lot of money from school fee of international students too). They depict a rosy picture of Canada for those who like to migrate to another country. Realities are not rosy. I lived in Canada more than 3 years.
Hi, I’m right now pursuing my final year under graduate degree in mechanical engineering in INDIA. I want to pursue my masters in Canada and I have few doubts
1. I would shift my graduate course to computer science considering the opportunities is it worth all the effort?
2. After completing my graduation will it be easy for me to find a job in Canada
3. How good are the savings as I want to earn more and come back to INDIA
4. Will it be worth doing Masters in Canada, like finding quality jobs immediately after graduation
5. Will there be Visa problem?
Please do answer and let me have a idea about considering Masters in Canada. 🙂
To answer your questions as far as I can:
1. No idea. You should do the homework most probably yourself to figure out.
2. No. There is no such thing as “easily finding job” in Canada.
3. You will have no saving. At best, you will do good if you don’t ask your parents or relatives to send you money to Canada to support your life.
4. Look for job job advertise for fresh graduates “immediately after graduation”. If you see any, plan for that. This country has no shortage of graduates.
5. No idea.
I have a Bachelor of Science degree in Industrial chemistry, will Canada be good for me? I’M an Africa from Nigeria
Look for online job ads. Apply and see if you get interview. If you get a job that pays you so you should not spend from your pocket to live here, yous Canada can be good.
Hi
I am much confident of this am about to let you know. I must tell you this, Nigeria as a country is way far better off this so called first class overrated country call Canada. But the fundamental problem is most people offshore thought here is a golden ticket for survival or reaching the stardom . My little advice is if you are well educated and skillful I suggest you stay back in Nigeria and invest in your already acquired skills rather than coming here to settle for menial jobs. It is your call.
Hi Moderator,
I’m 23year old. A BCA graduate with almost 3.6 Years of experience in BPO/KPO/Off-Shoring Industry Job earning at 35-40k P.M.
I’m willing to complete my Masters in CG (Computer Graphics, M.Sc IT) by undertaking of taking better education and settling up permanently ever after.
Or if there is any chances to apply for direct JOB relevantly to BPO/KPO/Off-shoring experience on work permit first?
Please assist, if Canada is good place to invest lot of money and time in study along with doing odd jobs for expensive bear and begin new career afterwards OR should I continue my journey at India only? (Respective to the cost most)?
Your help would be highly appreciated.
It depends on your and your family circumstances. But age is on your side. Frankly, we have no clues whether it is possible for you to get work permit first. Completing Masters in CG and then starting a new career is a good option. Yes, you can survive here by odd jobs while doing your MS. But the journey won’t be easy.
Hi I am 45 & working in government job in India as mechanical engineer for past 20 years. I feel frustrated with population explosion, in our country and poor administration. I want to immigrate to Canada as there is no further promotions in my present job with Government. Is it a worthy idea to do 1-1.5 year Masters course in Building environment engineering/ Supply Chain management and seek a second career in Canada?
My aim is not to earn high salary or to save a lot but to live a peaceful quality life in low density populated country with good public transport.
With no real competition or pressure to perform in last 20 years, you will have a steep climb ahead in private sector in Canada. Giving away high salary and comfort of secured job is easy, but while surviving with low salary and struggle is where the real problem starts. especially at your age. your frustration is true, but the action seems too late. you should have foreseen this situation like 10 years ago and should have migrated – now it seems too late. Mechanical is good stream though, if you still want to take a leap of faith.
Dear Moderator,
Request you to pls assist on below points. i am having 6 years of experience in insurance sector in India.
insurance is the federal skilled occupation as per the SOL released by the Canadian immigrant authority.
1. What are the Job opportunities, we have in this sector in Canada?
2. Which city has the maximum jobs available?
3. Is Canadian insurer entertain Indian immigrants?
4. Do they ask for any kind of Canadian institute certification?
5. how soon i can find jobs insurance in Canada?
Please provide your comments.
Regards,
Nitin Agarwal
The insurance sector in Canada is different from India. To begin with, you will have to pass the LLQP exam and then you can immediately join any of the insurance companies. All cities offer opportunities in the insurance sector.
Hi Moderator,
I am currently working in an investment bank here in India and also travelled to Canada before for business meetings en all…I have got 6+ yrs of experience in IT field…now m planning to migrate to Canada ….please let me know if I should take this risk ??
Everything this lady says about Canada is, sadly, very true. it is a very backwards, xenophobic, gynocentric, and hateful culture. If you are a well-educated, prosperous man from another country, you will be stunned at the misandry and rampant anti-male garbage you will be forced to endure. An Australian lady I spoke to recently talked about how unpleasant and ignorant Canadian women tend to be, on balance; she was absolutely right. In a culture such as this one, men and children are subordinate and viewed with distaste. So many fat, unattractive and untalented white women think they have the God-given right to patronize, insult, browbeat, and disparage men – and immigrant women. I’ve frequently encountered obese white women with little more than a college education denigrate and demean Indian and Asian women who have PhDs from leading schools; the sense of entitlement and privilege among these people is incredible. They have literally never been forced to grow up and become adults.
The whole country sucks. On the surface, a facade is erected that trumpets diversity and tolerance; once you peel back the veneer, though, the ugliness becomes unmistakable. Canadians tend to be very passive-aggressive and would rather wear the cosmetics of appearing good than actually being good.
If you are talented, hard-working, ambitious and forward-looking, don’t live in Canada.
I’m a life-long Canadian, and it was only when I left Canada that I realized what a shit hole it really is.
I agree with WillyWonkas each and every word. I am not a talented writer but hateful comments from ladies (fat and skinny) are horrible. I went to canadian university for my degree and white girls don’t talk to me ( I am an Indian female). And my sister went to school here and she would come home crying that kids in class won’t talk to her. I can go on forever but you pretty much described the whole situation in your comment.
For those of you who are writing and inquiring from Middle East, my advice for you is to stay there. For rest of you, don’t think Canada as a friendly place because IT IS FLIPPING NOT FRIENDLY. Please please don’t come here.
Brushing an entire country with the same brush because you had some bad encounters with a few Canadian woman? And you are just as racist with your nasty comments about Canadians!
And we are better off not having nasty people like you in this country anyways, get over yourself Willy!!
I live in Canada and have personal reasons for not liking some aspects of it. But it doesn’t give me the right and logic to to put the entire country and it’s people under question or blame. I lived in different countries and can say there is no perfect place to live particularly for a perfectionist.
I live here as permanent resident migrant. If I talk too badly about Canada and yet keep staying here, I just make fool of myself. If I really see it is a really stupid choice to live here, I move out.
Hi, Iam in a Mechanical Engineer, presently in the Indian Army. What are the prospects of employment, if i plan to immigrate to Canada.
Hi, Iam working in kuwait as a Mechanical Engineer. and earning 3000$ per month. I have 13 years of experience. Now I am planning to migrate into Canada. please let me know the chance of finding a suitable job there.
If you get $3000 in per month in Kuwait with 13 years experience, you are underpaid.
You may ears same or more here (there is no discrimination here in Canada). But you have to pay tax. You should do the exact math with real figures to find out.
but please keep in mind you will not be considered engineer here till you pass local exams
Hi moderator,
I am thinking of applying for a PhD in one of Canadian university in Medical field and also I was thinking of settle over there only. Is there any good chance that I will get a good job after my studies in Canada?
Thank you
Yes, it will open the doors for you.
You have talent and initiative.
Go to the United States.
Hi, Iam working in dubai as an Accountant and Administartion Officer. completed MBA in finance and I have 4 years of experience. now iam planning to migrate into Canada. please let me know the chance of finding a suitable job. also let me know any special certification or something is required to fit into such jobs in canada?
i appreciate your reply in advance.
Hi Moderator, I am 24 years old, got 8 bands in ielts, crs points are 450. Done MBA with marketing, having 1.5 years of experience.I have gone through all the comments,I am little worried about the situation.I am looking for a job in administrative work in canada, what are the chances there? Should I move to Canada? (no relatives there, I am all alone) doing good in India. –
Hi Dhwani,
Considering your age, i believe you should give it a go.
Wait and see what moderator suggests.
Don’t go.
You will have to start at the bottom in Canada, and there will be people above you who will work tirelessly to keep you down. Think about it, Dhwani: there are people just like you with PhDs and employable skills driving cabs in Toronto; why do you think that is? It’s certainly not because of any lack of talent or initiative on their part. If you are not a member of the right ethnic group or gender, if you are not a member of a privileged group, you will face a lot of hardship and struggle.
I would consider the United States or Europe if you are determined to leave home.
Thanks for the reply, planning to stay in my country, understood your point (I thought to make some money in dollars but it seems I have to leave on paltry income) thankyou so much
Hi moderator, I’m a cost and management accountant earning 50k here in India. After looking at so many people from my friend and office circles migrating to Canada, this Canada bug finally bit me.
I am willing to upgrade my skills to Canadian CPA. As i am bit low on funds, can i manage my studies doing an odd job for time being say for about 18 months?
My main destination is usa, so I’m thinking of migrating to usa after getting Canadian citizenship since both these countries have liberal work visa norms. What would be your suggestion?
Thanks in advance!!
Yes, you can manage your study expenses by doing odd jobs. We cannot suggest you anything about the US.
Thanks for your reply. Does completing CPA guarantees me a respectable job ?
No.
Hi Moderator, I am 24 years old, got 8 bands in ielts, crs points are 450. Done MBA with marketing, having 1.5 years of experience.I went through all the comments, I am looking for a job in administrative work in canada, what are the chances there? Should I move to Canada? (no relatives there, I am all alone) doing good in India.
If you are doing good in India, why do you want to move to Canada?
Thanks for the reply, planning to stay in my country, understood your point (I thought to make some money in dollars but it seems I have to leave on paltry income) thankyou so much
If you have good job in India, you should think many times before coming here (even Australia, UK have same problems)
It’s frightening to see that many highly skilled professionals in pursuit of better living in Canada are at receiving end of their life, leading a miserable life.
I have been contemplating past few months to move to Canada and about to initiate the process.
The above Info apparently mind boggling and an eye opener for me.
However, I have a great risk-appetite, don’t mind working for low paid jobs/profiles, I am MBA Finance.
1. What’s the Job prospects in Canada for me?
2. How long will it take to get a job there after Landing there
3. I am hard up on Funds,
What would be the financial sufficiency required to survive without job
4. Will it be a good move considering above plight of many who have had immigrated
please advise
Dear Moderator,
I am in Dubai from past 4.5 years and with my overall 7+ years of experience in Sales/Marketing of Fleet Management/HR-Payroll Software Solutions, would like to see the possibilities of starting a career growth in Canada. Would you please suggest if this is something I should be looking forward or as per your story and many supporting comments, I should stay back in Dubai itself ?
Sales and marketing are okay professions for those who want to move to Canada. But you have to start afresh. It all depends on your age and financial situation. Frankly, if you are doing well in your present job, you should think very hard before taking any step.
Thanks and appreciate your suggestion.
Hi Moderator,
Nomadic Life of any expat migrating to any new place is challenging but gradually people get adjusted to the system, that’s all . We can’t be one of them at any point. We belong where we came from.
Helo Moderator,
I just initiated on the process to migrate to Canada- on Express Entry Scheme. I have 10 years of work experience in IT industry mostly in to business /system analysis and product management. I have the minimum requirement i.e; an average of 6.5 in IELTS. I would like to get some clarity on below points.
1. Chances of an IT / Business / Systems Analyst in Canada.
2. Which cities has more IT / Analyst jobs.
3. Which Cities has moderate climate.
4. Which cities has more Immigrant population / Indian population.
5. Which cities are cheaper in living cost.
6. From which cities its cheaper to fly to India.
PLease provide any other details you think relevant, highly appreciate your help 🙂
Regards
Arun
1: Fair, but it depends on you.
2: Toronto/Vancouver
3: Vancouver
4: Toronto
5: You can choose any small city in Ontario or British Columbia or even Alberta.
6: Vancouver and Toronto almost cost the same because one route is over the Pacific Ocean and the other over the Atlantic.
Arun
Don’t come here. Take my advice please. We are better off in India than coming here and treated like fools.
Hi Arun,
What’s your status now.Im also an IT networking/System administration professional with 10+ years of experience.I have just started the procedure… Preparing for IELTS … Please reply me.
Don’t see every thing what you have earlier. Here you have to start from the beginning. It is upto you what you can grab.Many people complain this and that.Actually they need to be proactively doing.You have free health facility, education and training programmes. In new place there is everywhere challenge. One thing, you r coming here not for job, but for immigration.
Despite of some challenges , here are better opportunity. It is upto you what you want grab.
I am Sam. I got my master degree in oil and gas engineering from Iran. I have been here exactly 2 years. I arrived 29 June 2014. I hate my job and my life in canada. But….. when i think more .. i think it’s fair. Because of my expectations . If anyone wants to immigrate to western country he/she should sacrifice himself for the next generation . That’s the reality
Having personally worked in Dubai and a lot of people there have limited qualification which is not up to international standards and then they migrate to complain about the standard of living in western countries and they have to upgrade their education to get up to speed with the international market. My message is grass is not always greener on the other side. If you want to migrate to the west then you have to be ready to face some challenges and if you are not, then please go back to be an Arabian slave.
May i know what job you do in Canada Sir.
Hello moderator ! I’m English teacher (teaching English language in my country Iraq ) , do you think there will be a proper job within my migration to Canada ?
Most people start with survival jobs. Some of them who are lucky are able to get what you call `proper’ jobs. In the teaching profession, it won’t be easy to get `proper’ job.
No. Stay in Iraq or try other developed countries first. Canada should be be your last option. My dad who taught for 30 years came to Canada and he had to work as a servant(aka supprt worker)…. Canada thinks that only Canadian education is valid and we from other countries are stupid. With tears I watched my parents suffering from racism. They have accent, and had been mocked upon. some people drew graffiti on our fence indicating jokes about our skin colour
Whatever you guys say, for sure its not a place for beginners to start their career. If you have backup plans and good connections everything will be fine and after sometime you wont require any backup. Its not a Shit Country.
Is Canada a good place to start off your career with a MBA in Finance degree from a Canadian university? On an average what be the take home pay?
Hi I am counselling psychologist with work experience of six years. Planing to immigrate to Canada. Would it be better option for me..??? Pls help.
DONT come to Canada. They will treat you like fools. This is an advice from a person who has been here since 2005.
Hi Moderator ,
I have 10 years of experience as a physiotherapist . I am very keen on immigrating to Canada . What are the job prospect for a physiotherapist at canada.
Update your skills and then you will most probably find a slot or create your own.
Please people, don’t come to Canada. My parents and I have been here 10 years and we feel like aliens. I try to tell anyone I know of this sad plight here. Canada cannot even take care of there own people, let alone we immigrants. My parents have left their job due to severe racism.. And I am a strong thick skin person (trying to be) to survive in my workplace. But I have made plans to run back home the next best chance I get. Trust me everyone, Canada should NOT be your first option. If you can’t go to any other developed country and you are in need of survival issue, only then choose Canada.
Racism is so rampant here nowadays in the workplace!!!!
canada sux
its a shit country canada sux
I am flavia registered presently working as senior staff nurse in ministry of health in Oman
I would like to migrate and work in canada iam married and having 2 children presently iam working in Oman as a senior staff nurse in operation theater
hi moderator
I’m mechanical engineer with 4 years of experience in automotive industry can I find difficulties in getting jobs for myself in canada
We think you can land a related job in the auto industry.
As it is very well written in the above article if you are well set in your country …please for God sake do not make the mistake to move in this country, don’t destroy your life. Everything here is fake! From outside seems as they take care for immigrants but in reality they hate them. You are prejudiced by your accent by your color by the fact that you just arrived here.Your experience doesn’t count, your education is equal to zero. Only Canadian experience and Canadian education even that frankly they are light years back from USA or Europe. They are close mind. Everything you have done on the past doesn’t count and they can not even imagine that the world outside of Canada is different and better than here. They are afraid of well educated immigrants so they close every door in front of them. Most of the managers are without the proper education. The weather is horrible and public transport very expensive. The prices of the houses are in a unjustified way very very high. With a medium salary of 75k in year you can not buy a house!! Think well is it worthy to come in a country that make everything possible to depersonalise everyone under the mask of Canadian experience.!!!
I totally agree with you and the author. I myself came here to Canada 6 months back and back home in IndiaI had a good job and was working with Reliance industries and was earning a lakh rupees a month. My wife also has a permanent give job in India and working as a teacher. Here in Canada they don’t recognise my experience back home. I am working at Walmart as a stocker and living in a basement. After spending six months here, I have realized that I took a wrong decision to come here. I have finally sent my wife and my daughter back to India so that my wife can join back her job. I would probably spend another 3-4 months so as to earn the money I had spent to come to this fools paradise. I would never ever recommend anyone to migrate to Canada if he or she is well settled in his or her home country.
Absolutely correct, Vikas.
I am Canadian-born, and it was only when I had close non-Canadian friends openly discriminated against that I realized what Canada was really all about. It’s all about appearances in Canada; maybe it’s always been that way. It breaks my heart when I see talented people with drive and ability get excreted upon by a dishonest system. If you have a good professional job at home, don’t leave all that behind just because of a glossy photo spread or gaudy government commercial; they don’t have enough children being born, and they need your professional skills at low wages to keep going.
Think about moving to Canada very, very, very hard. This is one place where the grass is certainly not greener.
Canada is a country of talk and financial slavery. See how many people are in debt, third highest household debt in the world, and how many people have proper families, and then people can talk. I have lived here almost all my life, and still get called a terrorist for being arab.
Hi moderator,
i am Niranjani awaiting for your reply pl help. Is there a good chance to work as a hospital admin or a physio . Should I take the risk in trying Canada
Regards
If you qualified as a physio, you can update your skills here and then join some physio group. Yes, hospital admin jobs are also a possibility. But you have will have to wait.
People who work in health Industy are backstabbers. My mom has been backstabbed and she left the job due to severe racism in her workplace. We have been in Canada 10 year and feel like strangers. Now I am telling anyone who is looking to come here, please don’t do it. Please
What you suggest? I am attempting for immigration to Canada. Do you suggest any other place for immigration, better than Canada.
D I truly understand you. We have lived in canada since the late 90’s and racism is prevalent, its just more hidden. Non existant culture here. Many of the newer immigrants regret coming here. It is too stressful and money is tight.
I am Aashish working as a environmental chemist. Age 42 year. Experience more than 10 years. Can I get job offer letter for canada. Pls let me know.
Please reply
Its Quite Hard to get settle down after 35 years…canadian prefers young peoples!!
Hi Araja,
i m 34 and working in IT industry, how will my position in terms of offers???
We don’t know the nature of your job. Can you be more specific? Canada is big on the environment business.
As environment chemist I do all water, air, soil, stack parameter and sampling also. Knowledge of gas chromatography ndir CO analyzer etc
In Canada you will get the job of a Gardner .
David you are hilarious ! but as matter of fact may be it’s true as mentioned in this article.
there just goanna automate most of the jobs in first world countries in the next 20-50 years…..Canada is already estimating that half the jobs will outsource/automated in the next 20-30 years…like there’s already self driving cars,robotic welding,automated factories. like 3% of the country already muses food banks
Please don’t come to Canada. This is not the best place for immigrants. I have been living here since 10 years and feels like a complete Alien.
Hey i working for a e commerce company in india heading there customers service and planning for move to nova scotia or alberta. what do you think are the chances of getting a good job there in customer service?
Almost nil.
Go there if u want to become a security guard or a cleaner or a dish washer. I m myself a Civil engineer with 14 yeras of experience in India. I have also a B Tech degree from Canada. Even then, i am working as a security guard. That’s the top job here for immigrants. Canada is a trap. Don’t get in this trap, and be satisfied where you are.
Can u help me get a job of security guard I m from new delhi india 37 years old
Unemployment in India is rife. Besides, that place is too congested.. The rich get richer, but the others stay the same.
@MP & Gaurav: Don’t you also think that Canada suffers from the same rich get richer inequality? At least in India, you don’t die on the streets if you’re homeless because of a -40 degree windchill in the southernmost part of Ontario.
Hi i am a densist in india . And i have 5 years of experience. Is it a better option to migrate to canada??
Most likely no. Canadians only want Canadian experience and diplomas. Its hard here. You wont have money, and will work low end jobs.
Hi everybody,
I am Niranjani from India . I am a physiotherapist MPT Ortho and MBA right now working as manger operations in a tertiary care hospital . i am very keen in immigrating to Canada . and of course the only reason is better education for my children and to make good money Is it wise to immigrate with the family of 4 (two small kids)or should i apply for PR and later get the other family members under dependent visa . I have 12 years of experience . What is the chances of getting a job in canada and is it safe for a women to travel alone to a unknown country . Basically how is the country people
Please advice
Regards,
Niranjani
Hi,
I am not in Canada but have Canadian residence …living in NZ for quite a long long time and love it to bits 🙂 …here are my few cents for you…
Any skilled job in Aus/Can/NZ you will need to pass exams … hospital experience is good but even if you are very fluent in English you will be considered difficult to understand as you will not have the acent..its same as someone from Kerala going to Bombay and speaking in Hindi…
My wife was Masters in Biotechnology from a very very reputed college in B’lore her first job here was working in Subway…
Although she got a job in her field she lost it due to recession in America ..as the company she worked for exported stuff there…
She had to go back and do bachelor degree again to get a good job in health…. its same with me …had to start in Restaurant
We both had an advantage of age I was just 23 when I came to NZ so any job was good for me.. and same with my wife.
I would say if you want to immigrate move at a very early age…no point moving when you are in your 40s….
I would say it takes around 10 yrs for a migrant to settle in a new country…. so be prepared…. everything looks good from outside but it’s really tough and tight.. and if you think you can make money going there …I would say forget it….
And of my experience …please don’t take Indian thinking to the new country you are going to … learn theirs..after all they are successful for some reason right ….. 🙂
Dear moderator,
I am a Bachelor degree holder in Mechanical Engineering.
I work in Oil&Gas sector in Middle east with over 6 years experience in Piping Engineering.
I am planning for immigration to CANADA.
Do you find any scope for my profile in CANADA?
Eagerly waiting for your evaluation,
Thanks in advance.
But as of now the oil and gas sector is in bad shape because of the oil price. But you can never say anything about a year or two down the line.
thanking you
Hi. I am a practicing Architect from India, with 6 years of experience. I was wondering what is the current demand for foreign Architects in Canada. I would also like to know what is their pay scale, and what is the required pay scale for survival. Goes without saying, I will have to follow the laws and get myself registered if I want to continue in Canada, but looking at a bigger picture and long term benefit, is migration worth for me?
Hello Moderator,
I have read many comments here and i have an understanding of some of the circumstances in canada. However, i have some questions
I am a 33yrs old CPA member, wishing to land in Manitoba with family (3 of us), what is the prospect of landing a job quickly as only Canadian experience may count against me.
How much is rent for a modest 1 / 2 bedroom apartment in Winnipeg.
Lastly, what is the average take-home for a Chartered accountant less of tax.
Thank you
We have no clues the job prospects in Manitoba. Your rent could be less than Toronto or Vancouver – maybe about $1,000. As for the average take-home, if you as a beginner can take home even 3,000, you will be fine.
I helped countless people with finding jobs in Canada, anyone interested let me know
Hi
I am in the process of immigrating to Canada
Have my profile in the express entry
Can you really help me find a job as a credit analyst in some bank/ FI ??
Hey moderator! What’s up? God bless for u being so honest n kind on ur replies and suggestions. Well m Niraj from India.Recently I am being offered a job in agricultural field (group – D). Which says work permit for 2+2 yrs. To be frank n honest, I actually belong to hospitality sector hvng around 9 yrs of experience. But due to some financial issues I gotta work anything anywhere. After going thru all the comments here, though most of them were for higher posts, I am bit reluctant to move on..coz I’m selling my all the properties to apply for it. I even wonder if I can apply for PR after my contract tenure..coz I wish I settle there preferably. Your kind suggestion in this regard is highly appreciated.. Think u..
Please post this comment under the article `5 best professions for immigration to Canada.’ You will get your reply from the expert.
Dear moderator
how is scope for 5 year experienced Indian educated civil engineer in Canada. also can you please help me out how much salary i can expect from from construction companies if they offers me job and asks me for my expectations.
Thanks a TON Moderator & Tony. Your knowledge share helped me understand the situation in CANADA. I changed my mind. Never gonna apply for a PR/Work permit unless i get a job offer or an onsite opportunity for a short period. Thanks again.
Hi Moderator, I am having opportunity to move to Ontario through inter company transfer , I am 50 and well settled in UK.
What is your advice ? After reading various experiences and comments, I get mixed feeling
If you are `well settled’ in UK, why do you want to move to Ontario at the age of 50?
In my case, a company is sponsoring me. So I’m coming with a job, wife will come just to study. Would you see this still as a foolish move? Thanks for the good reading btw.
If you are coming with a job, that is a good thing.
Hi Moderator,
I am from IT field with an experience of 4+ years in Telecom operations and developement. What is the chance of my profile in Canada? Do I need to take up any upgradation of skills in Canada? My wife is a physiotherapist having 2 years of experience. I heard that healthcare section has good scope over IT. Is it true? We will write IELTS exam soon and then appy for PR.
Can you please reply to my concerns?
I guess we are over flogging this issue. I have read through all the posts, those for and those against. In all, my contribution is that the moderator can’t successfully convince people about the likely challenges new immigrant will face in Canada. I have been here for two months and before coming, all warnings and advises fell to deaf here. I also know people come here and get a job easily, low in term of profile but commensurately enough. It is just that the ratio of people that hit it quickly is a far cry from those doing odd jobs. On the Internet and website, it look as if everything is easy. Nothing is simple in Canada guys and please be objective so that people will have the right expectations and won’t be disappointed when the choice is made. Be prepare to spend very huge amount of money for the next 6-8 months. Be ready to pay high insurance, day care if with kids and all the taxes. You can’t get the dream job at ago and making good money here is very subjective as the house is a mortgage to be paid with monthly property tax. The frustration you get from learning how to write CV again and dedicating 70% of your time applying the job you are more than qualified for without a call are realities. I spend average of 1:30mins to adjust my CV for each job role and you can imagine doing about 4 in a day with maybe about 2 to 4 calls in a month that doesn’t result into recruitment due to (silent required) Canadian experience. For me, I am going back to my country in order to put to good use all Inhave learnt here and come back with the right expectations.
Apology for my typo as I didn’t proof read Before posting.
Hi Moderator,
iam an MBA Graduate having 8years of experience in FMCG&Banking Sales. Im thiking to move to Canada to earn money. so pls clarifiy me below doubts
1) what are the chances of getting sales job immediately after reaching Canada
2)approximately what salary can we get for Sales jobs/ per month.
3)and please let me know what would be the living expenses for home, food, transportation (low cost living-just to survive)
4) what are the immediate jobs available to work after reaching to Canada (if i want to start working immediately for survival)
5) how much money to keep in hand to survive (for 2-3 months-if dont get the job immediately)
Your MINIMUM monthly expenses will be between 2,500 to 3000 dollar, including home rent, car and food.
You should have up to $10,000 in reserve to survive for four to five months if you don’t have any proper job.
If you ready for any survival job, you will find one. But even survival jobs need a little training. You may have to wait for a couple of months. But your comment that you are moving to `to earn money’ is a little loaded statement.
Hai moderator,
I am a mechanical engineering diploma holder and having around 10 years experience in Industrial construction (petrochemical factories, oil & gas plants, steel plants) field.
So please tell me the chances about my jobs. and which province will give better opportunity for my profile.
Calgary in Alberta should have been the best province for you, but the Canadian oil and gas sector is down in the dumps now, more so after the massive fire at Fort McMurray
Thank you so much for your sudden response.
If I get a job in that sector how much salary can earn monthly ?
what about the average living cost in Calgary in Alberta ?
Who is the best immigration agency in India ?
Who is a authorized representative ?
How the agencies proving PR without a job offer ?
Hi moderator,
I graduated from an IIT in India and an ivy league university in US. Working in the US. Have experience in Mobile Application Development (Native Android and Mobile Web) and Data Analysis (Python, R). Whats the demand for these fields? Also, which cities in Canada should i target?
Cheers.
We will get back to you after consulting people in your area of specialization. Remind us after a week’s time. Meanwhile, if other reader/s have advice, let them post here. Thanks.
Appreciate it! I am also likely to have about CAD 200,000 in liquid savings to invest if needed (these will be roughly 60% of my total savings) when I move to Canada. I saw Tony above talk about buying convenience stores. Is it possible to buy one and have someone else operate it or is it a full time investment, whats the ROI like? Would love to hear from Tony or others!
Dont spend.
They money which u paid you can consider as that you have put money in sea.Its gone.
Consultants will say u can go- But even after getting entry in express entry get into Cananda is impossible as because u should get an offer from canada-do u think the employer in canada will send u job offer as they having manpower resources already there in canada
Hello Moderator And @Mr.Tony i am quite impressed by the kind of knowledge and wisdom you both are exhibiting in this forum. And i thank you for the effort you are making in making people aware about the real so called Canadian life not the life immigration consultants talk about. I too had a dream to immigrate to Canada but certain complexities arose in my life due to which i kept on delaying this “going to Canada thing” but now after having met so many people who immigrated from India (my home Country) and most of them are my old classmates, relatives, friends and i came to know that Canada is just a vicious circle of working your **S up all the time and getting paid in peanuts after the taxes being deducted and just plainly paying for mortgages, insurances, or Rents groceries etc. and believe me people don’t make much money in Canada who are paid through cheques. Although the flip side is that people who drive trucks i mean long haul does make some more money as they show expenses and hide from the tax net. i have had interaction with people living in Toronto, Vancouver, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Regina and all them have one plain simple thing to say that its not easy money in Canada, one has to work in jobs which one would think they are below their level in their home countries. (but in Canada no job is small they say). One reason people from South Asian countries like India want to immigrate is the lack of good paying jobs, Lack of infrastructure ( May not be true for every city in India though) and widespread corruption in each and everything one comes across in India. These were the reasons which always prompted me to leave India and settle in some beautiful foreign land and that for instance was Canada( my Dream country) but now when i read stories on-line and and get to know it from the people who are close to me and they don’t lie or pretend that they are very successful in Canada i some how feel apprehensive to immigrate now. Yes i do also feel that its each to his own and every person treads his/her own path, but majority of the people i have met have the same sad story to tell. And i for instance is an average guy who does not have education from a premier institution and i belong to a upper middle class family who is doing okay in India by earning for myself and i am not that rich who can afford CAD 8,00,000 to have a nice life in Canada. So i am in dilemma that is for sure, now as i know people like me and more who just cannot get over the dream of living abroad and i for instance come from an indian state where most of the people are crazy for living abroad. The place i live in has at least three persons from every street living abroad so one can understand the lure it creates in the wannabes here who too want to leave for foreign shores. So what i basically want to say is that though i may be living a good happy life in India but the rampant corruption, Pollution of every kind and poor infrastructure always makes me think why i should not leave this nation and settle in developed country so that i can lead my life peacefully and in a better and beautiful place. But then when i read these stories i do feel haunted in my mind of the endless struggle in low paying jobs i have to endure for the rest of my life in a country like Canada. As i dont possess any qualifications like say from an IIM or IIT that i can bank upon though i have a master degree in marketing and graduation in B.Sc but i know very well these wont be recognized in Canada and i would be doing some survival job but doing the survival job for the rest of my life sends a chills inside me.These are just some of some of my feelings and thoughts and i apologize for the mediocre language skills of mine and my poor writing and sentence making skills as i don’t write much these days so don’t have a proper grasp over writing now. And please pardon for some mistakes. Looking forward to hear from mods and Tony. Regards
Dost don’t give up . get tourist visa see live match. Canada is for skilled ones not for PhD. People. At least u can drive. Nothing comes easy way.we r eating pesticide vegetables and all here. wat is good adulterated food, pollution, corruption every where, govt. What ever u pay in tax distribute free to under poverty class’s. Who is graib, liquor shops r always packed with this working class, they all r having costly phones. Do single person is entitled for tax. Nothing changed nothing will change. U r not gambling, try 1 shot. I had applied tourist visa, any help needed ajitexpo@hotmail
.God bless us all
Yes Ajit is right! for house cleaning he will be reluctant to pay just 5 CAD to the ‘Garib’ people PER MONTH! in Canada he will do it himself else will pay 12 CAD PER HOUR! I don’t disagree to the facts about problems in India, but while leaving keep mum and immigrate. Give reference of all the good things of Canada rather then giving all the bad things of India!
Dont spend.
They money which u paid you can consider as that you have put money in sea.Its gone.
Consultants will say u can go- But even after getting entry in express entry get into Cananda is impossible as because u should get an offer from canada-do u think the employer in canada will send u job offer as they having manpower resources already there in canada
Hello,
I am from Sales background & planning to shift to Canada with my Wife & 4 years old Son through Y Axis Consultancy who promise to give job there.
Is there are enough jobs are available in Sales Field. I did MBA (Marketing) from Pune.
Waiting for your reply.
Dont spend.
They money which u paid you can consider as that you have put money in sea.Its gone.
Consultants will say u can go- But even after getting entry in express entry get into Cananda is impossible as because u should get an offer from canada-do u think the employer in canada will send u job offer as they having manpower resources already there in canada
What u two pilots think living in India is easy. Here u have to face jat reservation, Patel reservation, etc. Jat who is corepati asked u need reservation he said I don’t know but I want it. That’s the current status. OK on education issue I had several talks with private school my kids going about burden of studies but they don’t give a thought to ur words. Kids feel depressed. 98% achiever also have to struggle from admission. I knew my family friend gave 50 lakh to admission in MBBS . so a real cream student ends with another low field.
Now medical. Unless u have contacts the private doctors takes all ur savings.
Govt. Hospitals one bed 2 patients smell ,dirty every where.
Govt. Taxes here also same. Corporate people are paying heavy taxes. What they r getting in return. Adulterated food,pollution, corruption, etc. Businesses people pay taxes what they r benefited with. Old age pension 1000 rupees month. He paid taxes whole his life and what he gets in old age , baba ji ka thuloo.
I knew students m tech doing call center jobs. It’s hard every where.
Richer is getting richer. Still u get a chance to upgrade urself doing harder jobs. No doubt Canada is not for white colour jobs.
With worlds highest youth population still India is 100 years back. The latest episode of Haryana, have u seen this type of episode in Canada . who is going to invest here.people who fall victim won’t get back what they have lost. Life is uncertain here.
Agree with moderator and Tony Canada is hard but also talk about ground reality of India. In simple words india is on grand sale for aristocrat and politicians from years and will continue.
Politicians distribute free laptops, auto rickshaw, etc to those who never paid taxes. At least every person is entitled for taxes in Canada. I mean to say if u r charged u r getting back in some other form.
If India is so good why rich people r moving . they feel what they r paying in taxes r not getting back.
Canadian politicians have to think and act to give direction to youth power.
I feel one should read all these comments and these comments are nice and true but go and see live before jumping.
Dear Moderator..
Awaiting for your kind advance
Dear Moderator..
Im from India..my wife is basically B.sc physics graduate,Now she is doing final year MBA technology and also having 4 years of experience in IT industry with strong emphasis in all phases of software development including analysis, coding and testing of applications including real time production support in IBM mainframe environment.working an Analyst programmer.
Myself BBA graduate with 6+years of Sales & Marketing experience in Recruitment,bank,and media industry etc. Please let me know about the opportunities that I have once I land in Canada –
If you are of the right age, you and your wife’s areas area definitely in demand in Canada.
Dear Modrator,
My wife is a staff nurse(BSc nursing) and I am working in Foreign Exchange Company in United Arab Emirates.I am Law graduate(LLB) with MBA. We are from India. Is it a wise decision to move to Canada.
Request your advise
Ajith
Depends on your age and willingness to rough it out in the initial years.
Hello moderator
Was anxiously waiting for ur comments on my post a couple of days ago
Will reiterate the same…
I am an electronics and telecommunication engineer and a mba in operations
I have seven years of work experience as a credit analyst/ credit underwriter for commercial loans… I am working for a reputed bank here and am in the process of immigration
Please let me know about the opportunities that I have once I land in Canada
Your qualifications and experience are absolutely in line with what is needed in Canada. Of course, you have to update your skills as per Canadian requirements. And it also depends on your age.
I am 33 nw… And wud be very much fine with updating my qualifications…
What is the duration of such courses in this field?
It depends on the course – anything from six months to two years.
Which course do I need to take? That would best suit and add to my existing qualifications and also ensure a job as a credit underwriter
Dear Ruta, we don’t have the expertise to recommend you the course for your area of specialization. But as we have already said, almost courses related to the financial/securities/insurance/mortgage sectors can be cleared in a matter of months.
Hlw moderator, I’m Cya, and I hold Chartered accountant certificate as a registered full chartered accountant, I’m planning to move there in Canada, is there any job opportunity guarantee for me
People with CA qualifications are doing well in Canada.
Hi ,
I am an IT resource having 5 years experience in ETl tools Informatica and datastage. how is the job market for these technologies. should i take chance and apply for canadian PR visa. what are my prospects.?
Dont spend.
They money which u paid you can consider as that you have put money in sea.Its gone.
Consultants will say u can go- But even after getting entry in express entry get into Cananda is impossible as because u should get an offer from canada-do u think the employer in canada will send u job offer as they having manpower resources already there in canada
Hi moderator
I am an electronics and telecommunications engineer and a mba in operations
I have been working as a credit analyst for a bank here in India
I have started the pr process to immigrate to Canada
Can u please throw some light about my chances of landing a job of a credit analyst in banking industry
Dont spend.
They money which u paid you can consider as that you have put money in sea.Its gone.
Consultants will say u can go- But even after getting entry in express entry get into Cananda is impossible as because u should get an offer from canada-do u think the employer in canada will send u job offer as they having manpower resources already there in canada
Hey Guys,
As per my experience:- Spending money for Express Entry Visa to Canada-Its a full wastage. Unnecessary wastage of time and money guys.
through express entry its difficult as because first you need to overcome the hurdles such as IELTS,Education assessment,Documentation process(exp certificate and all) & consultant service changes-then only u will be in the express entry pool. up to here you will have to spend One Lakh Indian rupee.
But even after you enter in express entry pool getting a job from job bank of Canada, its really impossible.as because in Canada there itself lot of students and citizens are applying for the same.
Hence just imagine that will we get PR as because its an imperative to get a job directly from Canada Job Bank.
Hence guys don’t waste time and don’t rely on the impossible dream as per my experience.
I was in Canada for 2.5 years with family and i largely agree with the original post “fools paradise”. I would like to share my experience here so that it might help..I also strongly agree with moderator’s & tony’s comments. so here’s my background & learning:
landed in Toronto, Canada from India in April 2012 and was in canada till June 2012. My qualification engineering degree, 10 years experience in IT with industry certifications (accepted across countries), also had worked in US for a few years. My wife – pre-primary/early year teacher in India with teacher’s training certificate, 5+ experience in schools such as Ryan, DPS, etc. 2 kids aged less than 5 years at the time of landing.
Jobs: 6 months no job for either of us. attended job fairs, volunteered, attended various sessions at mississauga employment centers for learning “canadian” culture, job hunting strategy, trying to gain simulated work experience at simfit.. etc etc. finally after 6 months of extreme networking within indian community i got a job on contract in my own field. all of my contacts in canada told me you are extremely lucky. i think they were right as many i knew who were with me in these job preparation centers were doing menial jobs for survival even after an year of landing.
My wife’s education was not recognized by the education board in canada. great ! who was once a respectful teacher in india is unemployed with no chance of jobs in near term. eventually she found a volunteer job at school (1 hour daily) to take care of kids during lunch hour. big blow to self esteem..but she continued. then after a few months and getting a certificate from canadian institute she got a part time job as supply teacher for a few hours at early child education center. where she was called upon if some teacher was not available. so in summary no real career in her chosen profession.. i am sure she would never get a full time teacher’s job ..people don’t speak but i think the school board will never hire a non-white or say non-canadian for canadian children
during all this unemployment time finances took a big hit…even though we were living in low class neighborhood. the monthly expenses with car were easily upwards of 2000$ ..just meeting basic expenses. 450$ for car insurance, 1000$ for rent, then groceries, phone, heating, cable, laundry bills etc. Imagine spending this much every month without income and it sucks out any fun in “canadian” life…. so, just to get started you will have to spend a lot of your savings…
Culture: in my experience, immigrant people in canada live in their own circles, circles of their country from where they came from. Only rarely would you see otherwise … and even within the same culture people are waiting to suck some money out of you…my school friend who was also in canada before i came was calling me pretty often and i thought it was so nice of her,,and then one day she asked me to buy insurance from her and i refused. no phone calls after that in my 2 years there. then at any place you go once people know you are new, they know you have some money and you are weak…in malls, temples etc people will try to sell you policies, make you friends to sell one thing or the other…it all felt sickening. so in summary, original canadians don’t give a shit for you and some are racist (i had been called paki many times), immigrant canadians stay in their own circles and if you don’t find like minded people you are basically condemned to solitude…
one needs to be very rich to settle easily in canada like people from around the world do, take up franchise, petrol pumps etc…or one needs to be luckiest of all to get a decent job…
i was employed in canada when i decided to come back because if i do lose a job i wouldn’t have the courage to go over all over again, my wife would never get a respectful job in her profession, we wud never have a friend circle outside a few indians, the cost of living, the culture in general and the feeling deep down that i am in a foreign land…
there are tons of forums on immigration where you can know more..but if you want to know anything from my experience i can be reached t [email protected]
Good post indeed. Thanks a lot for that. Most of my questions are already answered except the one, which is as below :-
I would like to get more information on job prospects in Sales/Marketing . No idea if they prefer immigrants for that. As it is a general field, that requires soft skills, do we need to do any course ?
I am 30, Engineer, MBA, 6 years of work ex in marketing working in Thailand. I don’t mind taking risk with 4 months trying OR starting at entry level.
Dear Moderator,
You have really a very good patience to reply all the queries even it is repeated from different persion. I really appreciate.
As tony pointed rightly, All the new immigrant should do their ground work well and ready to take up any jobs to survival for initial years . Search job opportunities on job portal for your profession.
Hello Moderator,
I have done MBA and working with reputed company in india , earing 35,000 inr , iam planning to take up PR please advise how is the job market for acounts and finance domain and who much money can we earn per month in canada.
As we have said, if any new immigrant is willing to wait and have patience, then you can find your way in finance and accounts. Of course, you have to update your qualifications.
Hey moderator. How you doing? Well myself krishna. I m having 7 years of experience in operations department in oil and refinery field as plant operator. But i done my diploma in chemical engineering. Now i m working in middle east. I want to migrate canada. Is there any scope for plant operators( chemical, refinery, petrochemical industry).
We have no knowledge for this very specialized area. But one thing is clear that Canadian oil industry is in big trouble because of the low oil prices and boom in Alberta is over.
Thanks for your reply. One more question ..which city due to think is good to go with? My main reason for relocation is good life and save money..will it be possible?
All cities are good. You can choose smaller cities in Ontario such as Hamilton, Waterloo, Oakville, Kitchener, etc, etc
HI, I am working as an executive assistant, i have 7 yrs of experience and my husband has 5 yrs of experience in retail. could you pls let me know that is it possible to get a good opportunity in Canada. We are planning to have a PR as our qualification and experience comes in skilled worker list. please advice
Depends on your age and the retail area. Frankly, if you are willing to take up anything, then go ahead. But talking about `good opportunity,’ the truth is that there are not many jobs going around here barring low-paying, survival jobs. So most immigrants end up doing something of their own.
Hi,
I am 12 year experienced Procurement & Logistic professional in chemical and allied (manufacturing & Trading industries) in middle east, graduation in Industrial chemical science and Certified professional of procurement. My wife is post graduate in business management and worked as HR generalist in Dubai,UAE. We are planning to migrate in Canada, please advise below noted points
1) Currently our income is USD 5000.00/Month. We have an EMI of 20K per month. If we move to Canada, will we be able to survive our expenses includes our kid’s schooling & others
2) Are there good procurement opportunities in chemical manufacturing industries/Trading houses
3)What are job opening rates for HR and operations.
3) How much will invest for a flat/villa (medium type) in industrial cities ,Canada
Valuing your advises highly
Regards,SV Nair
Tony and Moderator: Thanks.
Some guys aren’t able to get your alerts that are pretty straight forward!!. Unfortunately, there heart won’t listen to them. They keep mentioning there degrees and experiences and hope that all is well and will get a big red carpet welcome in Canada. Whereas the point is “who cares”. I have worked in Indonesia and Vietnam in mines and carry BE Mech, MBA. Have never attempted to migrate without a valid job offer that suits my profession and experience.
Hi Friends,
How is the Job Scenario in the insurance sector at Canada? Having spent 9 years working with insurance companies and insurance brokers in India, thought to take your advice before I apply for PR.
Thanks & Regards,
Nikunj
You have to do your insurance course called LLQP here and then you can join any insurance company or even bank. Not bad.
Thank you. Appreciate the prompt response.
Regards,
Nikunj
hi moderator,
i m a Electrical Engineer and worrking as a technician in govt. steel industry in India, My wife is a MBA and she is also in a govt. Bank in India, we got 70K INR per month here( combine) and have a job security. I am thinking to Migrate Cabada for betterment of life. should I take such decision? what is the future of a Electrical engineer their? can i get a good job their?
plz suggest me.
If you guys have stable and secure jobs and good income, you should think hard. Lots of people says they want to migrate to Canada for `betterment of life.’ It is a cliche. Yes, there will be `betterment’ in some areas of your life, but you will lose many things also. Like you have a secure job in India, but you may never have a proper job here (forget about a secure job because there is no job security here). You will have to get Canadian qualifications which will take time and money.
Sir,
Which government company are you in India, where they take electrical engineers as technician??? What rubbish. I too work in a public sector.
Hold your horses, he could be a Diploma Engineer as well!
Hello Moderator,
I have done B. Tech in Food Technology and I have 4+ years of experience of handling production in Bakery and Processed cheese industry and have also worked on HACCP, Food Safety and Quality audits.
I have read and listened that Food Processing Industries in Canada are growing and doing very well in terms of economy.
I want to know the reality what I will face if I move. Are the jobs available for Production Supervisors – Foods & Beverages ?
To all who think their qualifications are good, this is my final comment on this topic. The moderator has also, very kindly, given advice but it seems to me that the people are unable to understand (comprehend) English (which means that you will anyway be a failure in Canada – why – you don’t listen or read!):
There are 1.7 Million (in Indian language 7 Lakhs) of University students in Canada. So, every year about 5 Lakhs (600,000) new graduates are looking for work in Canada!
Last year ALL the new jobs (repeat ALL THE NEW JOBS) went to CANADIAN UNIVERSITY graduates (why? because they are CHEAP and young).
I know 3 Indians (1 boy and 2 girls) who have come to Canada got their degrees and are working for the ESSO Petrol (Gas) station in the night!
So, I will say it one last time in order:
1) You must be willing to work at low end jobs! You will NOT get your own job for at least 5 years, if you are lucky!
2) You either need a confirmed job offer or bring at least US$ 30,000 when you come.
3) If you have about US$120,000 you can buy yourself a ‘franchise’ (convenience store, Petrol Shed, etc) and do that.
4) If you have foreign income (like me) you can live in Canada as your 1st or 2nd home and don’t need to lose you and your family’s ‘self respect’ (personal opinion).
5) If you have over US$ 800,000, well, no rules apply to you (that is what most Chinese and Indians and other nationals do).
Now, you have ALL the points. Anybody who still asks silly questions about ‘my digree this, I have that’ needs a ‘brain transplant’ – LOL 😉
Take care, think, pray!
Here is my own quote: ‘You don’t need good luck if you use your brain!’.
Good luck.
To add:
Last year in Markham a Phillipino gentleman came up to me and asked me if I could get his Son a job. He migrated to Canada over 30 years ago and his Son is now 30. His Son has a University degree and DOES NOT have a job and works for a coffee shop in Montreal (800 KM away from home),
My Son’s school Principal’s son, who are old Canadians and are British descent, are unable to get jobs. He is also workign at a ‘coffee shop’. (THIS IS A TRUE STORY like the rest of my stories!!!)
I know hundreds of other stories. There are people in Canada who are happy to trade their dignity, or come from very bad places (slums/War), etc doing the menial jobs.
Another unpublished fact is that the divorce/broken-families rate for New Canadians is very high. Also the suicide rate and also the people who leave Canada within 1 year after wasting ALL their money.
I trust this helps and this is definetely my last comment on the subject.
Mr. Tony,
You are a great guy, trying to help people not believe what is not real.
You know what? People ( that too educated) tend to go for the traps laid by these ponzy schemes, somehow living in their fools paradise, trusting that every thing will be alright. Not using their true education, not using their judgement. I guess this is not going to change.
Hey Tony,
I am really impressed with the comments and suggestions that you provided.
If you don’t mind, could you please give me your personal email ID.
Looking forward to speak to you soon…
As part of our public discussion policy, we don’t show people’s email IDs in their posts. If Tony says yes to give his email ID to you, we will email it to you through our own email system. Thanks.
can you elaborate on
“4) If you have foreign income (like me) you can live in Canada as your 1st or 2nd home and don’t need to lose you and your family’s ‘self respect’ (personal opinion).”
I work in Middle East (Foreign Income) and I am a Canadian PR too. I am wondering how can we make canada as our 2nd home?!
Hi People,
I am really impressed by your level of optimism! I got my ticket to Toronto 3 months ago and was calling the movers for house relocation arrangements just now and saw this article! What is written is so vivid, honest and informative, that it halted me from calling the move company and am deeply thinking about righteousness of my decision. I am going with lots of money and high support and still feel so worried nd disappointed. Yet I see many of you keep describing your professions here to check your immigration chances there and plan to apply PR!!!!
For God’s sake, no matter how bad your situation is, jumping out is not necessarily the best option.
Firoose, I am happy to see that the above has helped (at least) ONE person. The others are in ‘dreamland’.
Over 120,000 to 200,000 people leave Canada (mostly in disgust) every year. In 2014 the tally was about 500,000 (half a million). I am waiting for the 2015 figures… judging by the realestate market, and the desparation in realtors, the PM/Ministers, Car dealers, schools, etc looks like the figure is about the same as 2014.
The old Canadians make sure that you leave… they will smile, take your money/labour but make sure the doors stay FIRMLY shut to their ‘old boys/girls club’!
Thank you for sharing your comments.
Hi Feroze,
I am Canadian PR now back in India for good, move only if you have job for CDN 4000 / month. And move alone first, and never sell your assets in home country to come to Canada. I know many Indo-Canadians now in their late 40s settled in Canada since early 1980’s struggling to make ends meet. Canadian companies like any western companies will not hesitate to fire you if that improves profit.
Education in India till graduation is lot better (private schools)
Crish
I am currently working as web developer freelancer. Having around 6 years of experience. Making around 1 lakh indian rupee per month. My wife is not working. We have a new born daughter. We want to move to Quebec. I am not liking the indian system and want to move to canada for better life. Can you please tell me is it good decision to move to quebec? Will I be able to get job easily there?
If you making Rs 1 lakh, think hard about moving to Canada. There are not many jobs going around here. Why Quebec?
Because I am eligible under Quebec skilled worker program. I basically want to get outsourcing business here in INDIA. What if I get PR and stay there for 6 months and then come back. Will I lose by PR if I do so.
No, you won’t your PR if you go back to India. But you have to return to Canada spend time here to keep your PR.
Hi,
Im having almost 2+ years of experience in banking operations.
Is it a right choice to study financial studies(courses) in canada and how difficult it would be getting job in banking field in canada.
Depends on your age. The banking sector offers decent jobs. yes, you will have to take Canadian courses first.
Dear Friends
Am shipping and logistics professional (MBA in Shipping and logistics) with 6 years for experience in vessel operation and marketing.
How about the opportunities in my field.
Kindly advise.
I’m a Hospitality Professional having 3 years of experience in Hotel Reservations in 5 star Hotels Corporate office (The Lalit Suri Hospitality Group) and in Travel industry (Fareportal). Ihave done my Bachelor of Science in Hospitality Management and Hotel Administration. I’m planning to apply for Canada PR as the rules have changed now need to get a job before getting PR. How is it like working there in Hospitality Industry?? Does govt. provide facilities like insurance, medical to Express Entry immigrants. What are the charges for Visa?? Few consultants called me up based out of New Delhi saying they will arrange job interviews once you crack interview visa charges, flight tickets, accommodation everything will be provided by employer. Is it true?
We will get back to you in a couple of days after getting the opinion of local experts. Don’t fall prey to dubious consultants.
Arun,
Canada does NOT have a ‘hospitality’ industry as you know in Asia/Carribeans/Europe. Yes, there are hotes/motels/etc but that is NOT hospitality. I have built systems for the Hospitality Industry in Europe, U.K, Maldives, Europe, etc and also have travelled to many places. The only thing you get from a hotel/motel here is, they take their money from you. If you travel with Expedia or a discount traveller to a hotel, if you check in at night, they will PRETEND they lost the reservation and PUNISH you for it. I have seen it happen in Vancouver, Edmonton, High Level, Toronto, etc. Even the famous Burger/Chicken company in Canada sucks.
They stopped giving Work Permit VISAS for speciality cooks/chefs around 2011, I know this for a fact. The government is very strict on work permits. The average Canadian is very anti-immigration. However, if you can invest about US$800,000 then anything is possible.
Please read the comments of other people. It is tough.
Right now, it is NOT a good idea to migrate anywhere in the world. I think if you wait about 3 years and upgrade your skills, save you money you might do better.
Another option for you is to go to the Middle East (or even Maldives). The money is GREAT and is TAX FREE. You family will live well in India.
India is a GREAT country. Every country has its plusses and minuses… just don’t live in big cities. Even if you come to Canada, if you live in Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary or Edmonton (also Regina, Winnipeg), it is VERY VERY TOUGH!
Read all the comments in this page and also on facebook. You will see that people who are happy wth ‘menial’ jobs are the ones who are promoting immigration. The other people promoting immigration are ‘Immigration consultants’.
Good luck!
Hi… I m a MBBS from india n my husband is a civil AutoCAD draughtsman from India.. V R planning to apply for PR visa Canada.. Wat R d job prospects for my husband.. M not really sure if his diploma is valid in Canada or not..
Plzz reply
Considering your qualifications, if you are settled in your jobs in India, don’t uproot yourself because it will be a long struggle and not worth it. Your husband will have to get Canadian qualifications.
Can u plzz suggest wat further courses my husband needs to take up in canada as he is keen to continue in d same profession…
Plzz help..
Virtually every field here requires upgradation. Which means you take up local courses. Many (not all) are meant to make money from new immigrants.
You seem very pissed off at Canadian system…Honey it’s all same over the world…Every economy does the same
Hi,
I have 2 years of work experience in IT Domain as a system administrator in INDIA. I would like to immigrate to canada for work. Will work permit be a better option or PR visa ? Also for work permit do we need to give IELTS ? Also will my WP be converted to PR after spending some years in canada?
Regards
Ginu
Hi,
Having Three Years of work experience in IT domain (JAVA and J2EE technologies) from INDIA. I am planing to start Canada PR visa process. Many consultancy called me and telling my profile is matching good for Canada PR.
Before moving to Canada itself, they will arrange job interviews with some companies and we need to crack that.
Starting Canada PR Visa in this stage is fair ?. Please share your thoughts.
Many thanks in advance.
NITHIYANANDHAM,
There is a word called ‘fiduciary’ in English. That, briefly, means that your service provider (i.e. Immigration consultant) must act with YOUR interests at heart.
I know Indian, Sri Lankan, Pakistani, Bangladeshi consultants in Toronto saying it is great to come here, there are jobs, etc. I emailed one person as asked him (father and son operation) to SHOW ME the jobs. Since then he has shut down his web site. Another person in Regina, Saskatchewan (SK) was advertising in Asian news papers to send their children here. My client and good friend asked me to check him out… he was living in a ‘trailer’ in Regina was running a businesss to charge money from students a consulting fee to come to Canada.
So, do you REALLY believe the Immigration Consultants are acting in YOUR interests? It is GOOD MONEY for them. It is a ‘ponzi’ scheme. If you really want to come to Canada go to a Canadian High Commission and to the process yourself. At least then the government of Canada will make the money (which is their business model) and when you come here, if all does not go well, you will have only yourself to blame.
Good luck.
Hello NITHIYANANDHAM,
DO NOT TRUST Immigration consultants in India (I don’t know about other countries). They tell everyone that its easy to get Canadian PR. My friend’s experience is so sad. He is not even near to the point requirements and the consultant is offering another country’s PR now! They just want the applicants to pay the consultation fee (INR 80K ish, USD 1225 ), and take all the pain of waiting, and waiting and waiting!
Do some good research and gain a good knowledge on the process and decide if you want to proceed or not. Having 3+ year experience in Software development, I believes it right time to process. But, some question here – Do you have Masters degree which is equivalent to Canadian Masters Degree? Are you IELTS 8 and above? What I know is – These are required at this point as the CRS score requirement is very high now. 450+ (Recent one is more than 500). Else you will ahve to have a Canadian job offer, which is not as easy as many of us think. Consultants offer job assistant etc.. however, sitting in India and getting Job offer in Canada is NOT EASY!
What is scenario about sales/marketing job in fmcg sectors?
Not bad. In fact, sales/marketing are the best areas for new immigrants.
Do you mean ‘checkout’ (aka McJobs {Tim Hortans}), or ‘door to door’ selling Electricity/Water/Cable saving plans?
HELLO,
MY NAME IS CESAR A I AM AN HR GENERALIST, CERTIFID IN THE HUMAN RESOURCES INDUSTRY. BILINGUAL ENGLISH AND SPANISH. ALSO EXPIRIENCED IN ADMINISTRATION, MANAGEMENT AND CUSTOMER SERVICE.
WHAT ARE MY CHANCES/PERECENTAGE OF ME GETTING A JOB. IN MY QUALIFICATIONS, PLEASE ADVISE?
THANK YOU!
Depend son your age. And you have to take up Canadian courses in your field.
What about oil and gas construction field. Because now i am in saudi as a engineer in oil and gas construction. Is there o.n.g field is good stability? Bcoz canada is num 6 in oil gas production thats why i ask you.
hi
I am professional trainer in financial trainer in India for franklin Templeton . i want to migrate Canada. I am graduate and bachelor of Education. What you advice ??
Hello Moderator,
I am a recently married 26 year old IT professional with 6 years of experience. I am planning to go for a canadian PR soon. I have a few questions for you:
1) Currently me and my wife earn about 80k INR per month. We have an EMI of 20K per month. If we move to Canada, will we be able to survive as we have to send 20K per month home plus our Canadian expenses?
2) Are there good IT jobs in Canada?
3) Approximately how long will it take before I get the job related to my profile and quit doing odd jobs?
It depends on your area of IT. As we have said, professionals seeking Canadian PR should remember that they have to update their qualifications/skills to be eligible for job-hunting in Canada. It is almost mandatory but there are no guarantees. Tons of professionals are doing odd jobs to survive and wait for very very long periods and never get what they wish. Yes, there are good IT jobs, but very few because it is not a big market. Yes, you and your wife will be able to survive, but you both will have to work hard. If you both work full-time, odd jobs will pay you both $4,000 to $5,000 (combined).
Thank you for your prompt reply moderator.
My profile is that of IT service management. Where I deal with incident management, problem management, change management and knowledge management. I also have handled service desk, which I feel would have a scope out there, you could advise better in this area. My wife is in media field. Am not sure if there are media jobs in Canada. And when we say it takes very long to get what we want, how long are we really talking about? Any ballpark figure in years/months?
Thanks in advance.
1: No, there are no media jobs in Canada unless you wife wants to work in desi papers which are mostly cut-and-paste and pay very little. In fact, people from soft professions such as journalism, media, artists, writing, painters, etc., will have hardly any jobs in fields in this country.
2: `Very long’ means you may not get the kind of job you are looking for in your field. We have seen many, many good professionals return after exhausting all their money and failing to get any jobs. Also, it depends on your age. If you are young, you can afford to wait.
3: Yes, there are jobs in IT, but we are sure about your specific area. Let other readers respond to it. If we get further info on your area, we will post here.
Thank you Moderator. Am okay to upgrade myself as well but yes I understand it will be like starting my life and career from scratch. Thanks for all the honest advice.
i I was wondering the person who wrote this is still in Canada or she is back in india or Dubai?
Hi nirav
I am in same field itsm and itil.
I am working in pune.
Thinking to apply PR.
Could you please contact me ASAP.
May be lots of things get clear.
Thank you.
I look forward to hear frim you.
My mail id is
[email protected]
Hi Moderator,
I am from the field of sports, so I don’t have a good educational background. I was plucked in Bachelor of Arts course. I am 39 years old and have been in a difficult circumstance for the last couple of years. I lost money in the share market, so I am not in a position to start life here in India. I am afraid of facing ridicule in the country. I want to migrate if there is any chance for me to start life from the scratch. I have the following positives at my disposal:
1. I am fluent in English since I worked in a BPO in Delhi,
2. I am physically fit, at least tolerable,
3. I am ready to do any work that supports my sustenance,
4. I am good at teaching young kids as I do it now for sustenance (earning nearly Rs 35,000 per month at present),
Please suggest me if I should migrate for turning new leaf in life.
Regards,
Some of the comments here are ridiculous. My advice is if you only know one specific job and not sure if you’re really good at it then yes..you’ll have a hard time doing what you intend to work in. Nowadays companies are looking for people who know a lot of stuff with one special skill. I studied nursing and International trade in Vancouver. My professor was an IT consultant who is quite popular in Canada. And IT people have lots of doors..specially now that online market is booming and with so many apps on the road..IT is just one specific skill that they need..add another one either management, marketing, leadership skills, team trainer and you’ll be on the interview list. HR people are not dumb not to know someone’s experience.. They just have to set standards.. That’s all.. Remember.. Most immigrants don’t have Canadian experience.. That doesn’t mean they don’t get a job..it’s like a new graduate looking for a job too..all you can write on your resume is your experience in academic internships..but still fresh graduates get jobs..Canada is one of the best places to live in..or maybe it’s a matter of perspective.. It is true that if you’re a king in your place and moved here, don’t expect to be king here. We treat people equally as much as we can.. Being rich is a matter of perspective also..some say others are so poor they only have money. But in Canada, money is just one aspect of being rich.. We have a life.. Now for the very main point….if you’re not willing to learn and afraid to embrace change…then don’t move to Canada..don’t even bother to google how to migrate to canada…coz you will not survive here.. Just stay wherever you are and be happy with what u have…
Anonymous:
‘We treat people equally’ – is not true -we treat everybody as CLASSLESS = true. New immigrants are the ones who do not wish to give due-respect to others. Eastern Europeans think they are ‘white’, Philippinos think they are better than ‘Indians’ and everybody should be proud to be ‘live in care givers’ or ‘janitors’, Canada has a lot of Ukrainians who think any social policies are bad.
With UBER, now you can’t even earn a decent living as a taxi driver. A ‘family’ has taken over that business too.
If you are dark skin and wear a tie/jacket EVERYBODY assumes you are taxi driver/chauffer!
Immigrants who work ‘checkout’ do not like to address ‘dark coloured’ people as ‘respectfully’, get used to being calle ‘you guys’ and ‘buddy’. McDonalds Canada, apparently, does not train their staff to address customers are ‘sir/madam’.
To be considered NEAR rich (middle class) in Canada you need to earn AT LEAST $120,000 per year. Over 65% of Canadians earn $36,000 and less per year (at least the data I have).
Nobody will tell you EXACLY what their job is or where they live, etc. Everybody, especially new Immigrants, pretend they are ‘rich’.
HR/Recruiters in Canada is DIABOLICAL. It is a very EFFECTIVE method of practicing DISCRIMINATION!
You can NEVER speak to the top man/women. Even in a bank, if you go to meet the ‘manager’ she (it is mostly women) will tell you ‘we don’t have the authority to make such a decision’.
There are 3 classes of Canadians. The top 75 or so families, the politicians/old-boy/girls club Canadians, and New Immigrants/Slaves/ones earning $36,000 per year.
You family values and lifestyle WILL BE CHALLENGED to the maximum. At some point (almost) every new Immigrant says ‘I wish I never came’…
The unemployment rate is EXTREMELY high.
Finally, google ‘Canada Bank Bailout’ and ‘Canada banks and Entron’. Google ‘comer.org’. Google ‘SECTION 32 OF THE DE-FACTO CORPORATION OF CANADAS CONSTITUTION’.
Statistics:
New immigrants bring a minimum of US$ 7.5 BILLION per year to Canada.
People like me, who don’t want to be a slave and work menial (checkout) jobs or drive taxis bring over US$ 150 BILLION per year to Canada (yes, I still earn from my homeland and from clients/customers I had BEFORE coming to Canada.).
In short, Canada’s economy is Immigration.
🙂
Dear tony
I am Indian I want to be there I have good experience in account,
Please give me some idea
HI TONY ,
BEEN THROUGH YOUR COMMENTS , ITS VERY NICE APPROACH TO TELL THE FACTS ABOUT THE SYSTEM AND ABOUT IMMIGRATION ,
BY THE WAY, I AM LOOKING OUT FOR BETTER WORKING AND LIVING CONDITIONS COMPARE TO MY HOME COUNTRY . ABOUT ME ,I AM A 29 YEAR OLD MALE FROM INDIA AND I AM A SALES AND MARKETING PROFESSIONAL HAVING AN EXPERIENCE OF 7+ YEARS AND I AM A SCIENCE GRADUATE . WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES FOR ME TO SETTLE IN CANADA . I AM READY TO DO ANY JOBS TILL I CAN FIND A STABLE JOB FOR ME AND ALSO I LIKE TO DO MY HIGHER EDUCATION THERE . SO WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ADVICE .
in canada: free hospital, clean air, good education, no pollution, can trust policeman, strict traffic rules implementation, money for your kids, tax refund, income assistance, rent assistance, affordable cars and house etc etc…
IN PHILIPPINES, YOU CANNOT HAVE THESE,,, now you say don’t move to canada? still you see Canada as worst? where are you thinking from? from you brain full of monkey feces?
Gore, I am NOT from ‘soap box’ Phillipines! I am an Aristocrat from another country where I had Drivers, Servants, etc (I even had a Phillipino servant once). So, for me Canada leaves a lot to be desired. My salary in my home country was US$ 3,000 per month!
I concur, Canada is great for people like you. It is for low-class people and slaves!
In Canada we pay 65%+ taxes. So hospitals are NOT FREE (as you put it). It is fools like you who are the problem!
Cars are NOT affordabe. The insurance make, licensing, e-testing makes up for the savings on Car purchases.
tax refund is the money you OVER PAID. It is your OWN money you get back. Money for kids is for POOR people!
If you like being a Janitor, Maid (live in care giver), Servant, Hair Cutter, then Canada is good!
I am trying to explain to people who want to come (BEFORE THEY COME) here what it is like, NOT for people like you. In another 25 years people like you will see what I mean.
I am also warning them about SLAVES like you who think this is the greatest place on earth!
So, enjoy your LOW CLASS, SLAVE life (now we know who has ‘monkey feces’ in their brain)!
Good luck!
My salary was US$ 3,000 but I had an expense account and I owned 3 businesses/companies! US$ 3,000 was just my take home CASH!
I am worth US$ 550 per hour in Canada. But Canada only wants Servants, Janitors, etc. The doors to the ‘old boys/girls club’ is closed for us!
I read several of your comments and they are totally debased. I am myself living in Canada. I don’t know in which of your three categories you would classify me, but I have a really different picture of reality here. I am not an immigrant, so I do not have the perspectives you have, but I still lived pretty much all my life here and travelled to many places around the world. I know it is hard to establish yourself here, from friends. In particular, qualifications from other countries are not often recognized. But you have to take into perspective the position of the HR person doing the hiring. In much of the world, the formation is sub-par to canadian standard and it is really hard to establish equivalence. On top of this, the corporate culture varies across the world and how you fit in how it’s done here is as much relevant to your success in a corporate setting as your qualifications.
The simple fact that you said you came from an aristocratic background explains a lot. This essentially means you were coming from a group used to exploit other peoples. For example, you wrote several times about having maids or how maids treated you here, etc. Having a maid is not something to be expected here. Do your own shit! Seriously, why are you even complaining about the maid service here? The general culture here seems to be very opposite to what you uphold and I suspect this is behind much of your problems. And the same goes for your rants about slave labor and the rest… How come you tag people who grew up in extremely difficult circumstances as slaves? True, they may have it harder then we do, but at least they will get to understand what is really nice in this country, unlike you. You’re all about you and your money and, while it may be the case that there is an elite part of society here that is like that, like everywhere in the world, generally speaking, normal people are better off in Canada than in much of the world, excluding people from “aristocratic” background like you.
To everybody: It is true you shouldn’t come to Canada expecting some kind of monetary paradise. It is not. While it is a prosperous country, compared to its population, as an immigrant, it will be very hard to get a job satisfying your qualifications. A lot of hiring goes through networking. You will most likely have to start from scratch. The big positive difference here lies in the social net. While it is also true that living on social security isn’t nice, the social net here is really wide. The universal public health care is not a fallacy. You show up at the hospital like ground beef and they fix you up, no questions asked, free of any fees, even if you’re homeless, drugged out of your mind, having just injected yourself with a hefty dose of black tar street heroin. Also, like others said, corruption is relatively low here and you can trust policeman. But the most important derives from the behaviour of the people. I’d say people are, in a good way, soft. They are not prone to use violence to achieve there ends. This is not how we where socialized. Add that, to a lot of land, extremely low pressure on local natural resources, yielding low pollution and you get to live in a relatively politically stable, prosperous, calm piece of this Earth.
Arguments like the above and many more are subtle and if you were rich in your home country before coming here, you won’t notice them. But they have the effect of stabilizing the society. Hitting rock-bottom in Canada is really not that bad, when you watch the rest of the world, and this is the big difference. This is a difference with the USA. Being rich there is great and easier, but the social tension is much greater, mostly due to inequalities and how low you can fall. While it is true there is hunger and homelessness in Canada, it is mainly related to mental disease. Often these people, for a variety of reasons, do not have the will or ability to maintain thriving conditions with the social benefits. It does not mean this is not a serious problem to be addressed, but I don’t see any mentally stable, resourceful individual suffering hunger here.
All in all, I think the social fabric in Canada is really stable, BECAUSE of all those really expensive social programs, paid by your taxes. That’s the point and that what’s count. I see those taxes not as a burden, but as the cost of maintaining enjoyable social stability. This goes beyond left-right policies divergences, in my opinion. It is a matter of peace in your day to day life, irrespective of your socio-economic background. Of course, we could go farther, for instance by enabling minimum guaranteed income, but what we have now is still something worth having, in my humble opinion.
To the OP: You should look at the brighter side or go back. Honestly, if you don’t see the immediate benefits of canadian society to your well-being, then I don’t get why you stay here. Of course you mentionned education of your children… but meh, if you are so aristocratic, you must hate seeing them being socialized to another model! If you leave when they’re old enough, don’t be surprise if they don’t want to come/want to come back!
Advice to IT people : If you are into coding, get to work on open source projects as soon as you get here and definitely get involved with the IT startups community. Go and get drunk (responsibly!) with these people. If you are good, this community will see it and you will see opportunities coming to you.
P.S.: Not a native English speaker, (French), so excuse any mistakes in the above.
G.B.
Mr Tony, if u like go and jump in front of the moving train, people will populate Canada.
Its too obvious that u have fabricated all ur evidences to discourage p pple from coming to Canada.
Canada is God made and its to be enjoyed by human from all everywhere.
hi all !..
Why this platform is going towards negative directions. Think of positive and share lil rights you see around. I am 29 year old civil engineer by profession with 5 y 8 m experience on field from India and preparing for PR (Canada). Few of you might have experienced bad phases in Canada but is that ever possible that all have experienced the same? Those doing well in there respective fields should share their experiences and those who are planning for Canada PR please try to catch them for good knowledge.
Civil field is booming in Canada and have good prospects for carrier, please comment on this if you genuinely have ideas.
Peace !!
Gore .You are So RIGHT ON..If there is a better country on this earth than the blessed land of Canada than I as a world traveler have got to see it..
Yes there is a better country than Canada, I am Canadian Resident but love New Zealand, absolutely beautiful with very good living conditions than lots and lots of other countries in the world…. only problem immigration is very tough…Canada is easy
The ONLY qualification you need is to be able to work a ‘checkout’ job… but that too is becoming difficult! If you read the main article and still believe you are going to succeed in Canada you DESERVER every problem the main article and other commentors have offerred.
I am earning from my contact and client I made BEFORE coming to Canada and I am stuck here until my kids finish schooling (not schooling it NOT great, but I am stuck).
starting a life from scratch is not easy but this is what you get:
1. free hospital / nurse will be assigned in your patient if you are working.
2. the more kids you have below 18 and below 6 , the more money you get.
3. no pollution ( air, water, noise etc )
4. police can be trusted.
5. clean and first class retirement homes.
6. income assistance from govt is available
7. rent assistance from govt is available
8. good education for your kids.
9. loans are available for you kids in college/university with easy payment
10. no cellphone snatching ,
11. most people respects you and afraid of hurting or bothering you. law is very strict in bothering or bullying other people
12. free consulation in every clinic you see ( show you health card )
13. nice garbage management
14. govt people serves you better and with respect.
15. foods prices stays for many year ( i drink distilled water for 5 years, the price is 2.50 dollar for five years, never increases)
16. traffic rules are strictly respected. if you use pedestrian lane, all vehicle will stop! amazing!
You have points because the systems work efficiently. But everything comes with a cost. That’s why taxes and insurance rates are so high here. Transport and telecom services are costlier than most other places. Beyond basic medical care by govt (what you say free medical consultation and basic tests), you have to pay for doctors and nurses specially assigned to you. Yes, some immigrants from some cultures exploit the Canadian system by having many kids so that they can get more money from the government per child and and live free. And yes, there is no pollution and police can be trusted. But clean and first class retirement homes come at a very heavy cost (people buy old-age care insurance to be able to live there). Income assistance from govt is just subsistence level. Yes school education is free, but graduates end up with big debts that are not easy to pay because of a lack of jobs. Speak to managers at Mcdonald’s or Tim Hortons and you will know how so many very very well qualified people are desperate for survival jobs.
Gore, in other words IF YOU ARE SCARED OF THE SYSTEM, PAY THE PRICE. Canada is good.
I know a ‘doctor’ in Western Ontario who says he is working for free. Just like you are saying ‘healthcare is free’. NO, IT IS NOT.
We pay over 60% in TAXES (GST, Fixed fees for utility, Salary Taxes, Gas {Petrol Taxes}, Carbon taxes, Land Taxes, CHHC, Insurance, etc, etc, etc) for a (so called) ‘free’ health care! Everybody pays, but over 65% Canadians earn less that $36,000 per year.
For a new Canadian INSURANCE IS VERY EXPENSIVE – It will take you 10 years to get a decent rate wihout any accidents/speeding fines. If you are from Asia the cops automatically assume that the fault is yours! The racket here unlike other countries is you need to buy ‘liability insurance’ for the driver. If you buy and expensive car insurance will tell you that you car is expensive, if you buy a cheap car they will tell you that the car value does not matter. When you go to claim, they will says ‘it is not worth to fix it’ and give you a little money for it. EVERYBODY RIPS YOU OFF HERE, EVEN YOUR OWN KIND!
As a new Canadian you will pay 3% to 7% more interest on any loans, etc.
HST (GST) is 13%. When Petrol (Gasoline) finally became affordable the government increased the tax by 4 cents. So, in affect, the price went up by 6 cents (CA$).
Yes, like the moderator says the PRICE IS VERY HIGH. If other countries also charge such taxes from their people every country will have similar or better healthcare.
The ‘Green Belt’ in the GTA is to make land prices expensive by creating an aritificial demand.
Today housing prices in Canada are overvalued (bubbled) by at least 200%.
If you are brown skinned and get a Philipino nurse she will TREAT YOU LIKE DIRT! Philipinos come her eto SERVE WHITE PEOPLE.
Finally, Google ‘Canada bank bailout’, ‘Canada corruption is increasing’, ‘Canada banks and ENRON’, ‘Real suicide rates in Canada’, ‘Homeless in Canada’, ‘Hunger in Canada’.
There are over 1 million homeless in Canada. A similar amount of children go hungry EVERYDAY! Over 60% if Canadians are about $250 away from losing their homes!
Canada has some serious problems. Most of what I say here, I have written to politicians too.
Immigration ONLY helps the top 75 families. Everybody else in is trouble – so the top businesses families continue to promote immigration!
I have written to Politicians on how we can take more Immigrants and make Canada great, but they don’t want to listen, they ONLY WANT YOUR MONEY!
The sad part is Canada can take millions of Immigrants per year, if only we can get rid of the corruption.
Where are you getting your stats? A million homeless? There’s aren’t even 35 million people in Canada so almost 1 in 30 that doesn’t make sense?
Also 60% of people $250 away form losing everything? Where did you get that?
Nobody is paying 60-65% on their taxes unless they are making at least $200,000/year.
Also millions of immigrants are not let into Canada a year not even close.
Appreciate this wonderful country or leave.
its a one the best country to live. those who complain, have limited capacity within their less progressive mind and cannot afford to maximize it. I would challenge anyone who says negative about Canada, come forward and bring your false fact.
Nearly all the commenters here are a bunch of cry babies…Canada is (Compared) Paradise in so many areas ..No Doctor or Hospital is allowed to ask for money…Great Police Force ,Low crime rate (Compared) .If Canada was not surrounded with Oceans and with the USA on its land border It would be impossible to hold back the Refugees from all over the Planet..Any country a new immigrant enters he/she has to start at the bottom as in Australia/New Zealand The USA ..It doesn’t matter..I have lived in the States..Get Sick? .No Insurance?..Lose your Home…..Don’t even compare Britain ..No TV license go to Jail..HAHa …Canadians never heard of a TV license ..For your kids sake for sure ..CANADA IS NUMBERO UNO…..
Hi,
I am a Software Engineer working in India, having 7 years of experience in Application Programming. I am single & my age was 30, now I am planning to migrate to Canada through Express entry program(Federal Skilled worker). As I am single most of the people here are saying its right time to migrate and get a Job in the same field(IT) in Canada. But looking after these comments I am confused and not able to believe that i am doing something wrong by applying for Canada PR. I got some inputs from friends saying that even Australia is also not favorable for IT jobs and some how Canada is better that it. Please suggest me weather i can found IT job in Canada with my experience or else is it difficult to get a job there?
Thanks Regards,
Dev
Dear Moderator
My son is 25 yrs, has completed his degree in mechanical engineering and is working as engineer in on reputed company in India. he is looking forward to migrate to Canada. He is also interested in doing his Masters in engineering. Kindly advice his prospects of getting a job and doing his studied in Canada.
Thanking you
Hi. I am a new immigrant in Canada just been 10 days that I m here. I am not liking it. I had a good job in real estate in india and was earning 100000 rupees a month and my wife is in a permanent Govt job in India. She is still in india. I came alone so that I can rent a basement and get the driving license and everything before she and my 1 yr daughter arrives. I am only getting jobs of general labour in warehouses and packing factories. Now I am confused whether it was a good decision to come to Canada or not. Please suggest me what should I do. If I go back I am sure I will get a similar job in a month or two. Kindly suggest what to do.
Hi Vikas,
There are 2 paths.
1 Buy business and work for yourself and it depends on you.
2. if you want to work in any sector, do Canadian accredited courses as soon as you can. Don’t delay. You can stay 10 years and keep applying but unless you don’t have Canadian education, employers won’t call you for any white collar job.
You can see that for yourself as you are getting labor jobs and you will continue to get it if you don’t upgrade. trust me, I sat precious 8 yrs of my life trying. in the end, I left. The world gave me more and I have both Canadian and US academic background.
you have a 1 yr daughter. I believe you should stay at least till she gets the passport. It will change her life as it has changed mine.
Hi…I am 25 yrs old MBA graduate from Mumbai now working as a relationship manager here.Me and my bf are planning to move to Canada with a PR visa. He is into fitness industry currently doing his course in Thailand..we are planning to move canada.Can any one advise us other this…because after reading these comments we are really confused?
hi..i am a hotel management graduate bt shifted to a corporate job..working as office administration manager..and look forward to apply pr under express entry..i am single n 28 years of age..plz guide..
Canada is the best country in the World.. Long live Canada.. and I am a Proud Canadian.
Hi all
I am CMA & MBA qualified and working as Manager Finance in a Private company in Pakistan. I am 30 years and have a dream to settle in Canada since a long time. If I apply and get accepted I will have to leave my job to go there . I am worried if I could not get a white collar job in Canada, I dont wanna do blue collar job … Job market in Pakistan is also not good, if you leave it is difficult to get a job again… Need experience people opinions especially from finance profession background people , how is the market in Canada of Finance Profession ? Should I apply and move or should stay hear
Thanks for the excellent write up and honest comments !! Eye opening
My husband is a commodity manager in India in automitive industry. Mostly he has expertise in supply chain, logistics, procureemnt and done MBA degree. We are planning for Canada PR this year. Could anyone tell how is the job scope in Canada as per his profile
What about B E electro ics and MBA oper
ations have opportunities in Canada
Would never think of even visiting Canada after reading this…
Hi Moderator,
I am Sachin.
Thanks for these posts. I am trying to get a PR for Canada & making enquiries at different immigration Consultants. All are putting a very good picture about opportunities in Canada but the above queries & replies of people, open up the eyes. Thanks to all of you for making us aware about reality.
I have done 4 year degree course(B.E.) in Electronics Engineering in India.
I am 36 years old & alone. I have been working in Embedded systems field for the last 13 years in India. It consists of writing microcontroller / microprocessor programming in C, industrial fieldbus communication protocols development.
Appreciate a lot, if you can please check with someone who has been working in embedded systems & guide me for following queries :
1)Whether the enough job opportunities are available in embedded system (ALA: Firmware development) in Canada for migrants?
2)Which State has more opportunities for this field?
3)I have done B. E. still I will require to upgrade my education qualifications in Canada? If yes then which course & of what duration & how much will be the approximate fee?
4)What will be the minimum possible salary for my skill sets?
5)Is It possible to provide me Email Ids of people who are in the same field & willing to guide further?
Thanks in advance. Waiting for reply.
6) Send a PR VISA with permanent full benefit job offer letter.
Sorry but sachin missed to mention the last point.
Hi Moderator Looking for your advise on my posted queries
Any new immigrant with experience connected with the banking industry stands very good chances in this country.
Hi News Admin!
Thanks for helping people. We are also one of those planning for Canada PR. But after reading these stories I am in a fix.
My husband is in govt job. So we had planned that I, with my two sons 14 and 10, would file for PR right now as we want our kids to settle in USA. Our whole family is in USA. As we cant afford US undergrad education, we thought Canada wud be better option. I am a teacher here and 6 yrs experience.I am ready to upgrade my skills acc to requirement there.
Secondly, my husband will send the money initially till I get the job.
Now my question is: Is it worth all these efforts and money. What we have dreamt for our children…a very bright future …is it too much we r expecting? An Indian engineer and a Canadian Engineer who will have better scope in USA? Others also please guide us whether we are taking the right step.
There are two options for you. The one you have mentioned that you want to come to Canada with your two sons while your husband keeps his job and will send money to you. The other option is to send your children for college education to Canada when they are of college-going age. This second option will be less painful for you because after their graduation, the children can sponsor you. During their education, they can earn some or most of their expenses by working part-time as international students here do. So the choice is yours. The second part is: whether Indian engineer and a Canadian Engineer who will have better scope in USA? It doesn’t matter because Indian engineers are also doing very well in the US. But yes it is very easy for Canadian engineers to get jobs in the US.
Canada is the best place to live in and die in. Though I love India and Indians, I would not move back if someone paid me triple of what I’m earning here. FYI, there is more discrimination in India then there is in Canada. What Sucks – pretty much everything -the legal system, the under the table bride, the way women are treated, the way low income and illiterate people are treated …… If you’re highly qualified and expect a similar job immediately – DON’T BOTHER COMING TO CANADA. If you’re expectations are too high and you’re not willing to take a few years to settle down and struggle – DON’T BOTHER COMING TO CANADA. If you want to come here so your children have a better future but are not prepared to allow them to accept the Canadian way of life – DON’T BOTHER COMING TO CANADA. Just picture yourself living in Mumbai and needing urgent medical help. You’re sure to die before the ambulance arrives and all the red tape paperwork done. Here, you will have the ambulance, police vehicle and fire dept vehicle arrive probably within 15 minutes or less.
surely here you have the ambulance but it would cost 900 dollars for one service nothing is free in western countries,unlike west indians are biggest tax thieves.Without tax you cant expect the government to provide needy and fast service to the common masses
I am MBA with graduation in chemistry having 10 yrs experience in banking industry specialized in working capital, channel financing, sales and business development. My wife is 37 years old who is economics graduate and my daughter is 10 yrs old. We r initiating the process of immigration and our consultant has advised that with qualification and experience that I am having I will face no difficulty in getting job but before moving there hew ill arrange me a retail job for the time being.
Please advise me on the same and if I have to take canadian education what qualification shud I take how much time frame and what are the expenses. During this period how shud I carry my livin
Blaming Canada is not a solution. Just because we move to Canada doesn’t mean we don’t love our country. Its not about patriotism. Its about the standard of living we want to have.
Unlike gulf countries we don’t have restrictions on residency status. Every country has its own pros n cons.
Canada has better health care compared to USA. Canada has free education till grade 12 and ranks number 10 in science, math,n literacy reading n writing.
Every job has its own dignity. No job is big or small in Canada. Everyone is paid on time n every resident gets pension n old age security no matter what job you do.
Even if you pay mortgage on the house you are building equity where as in gulf rental is becoming very expensive.
Some jobs in Canada are seasonal like landscaping, taxation and when you are out of job you could apply EI that is employment insurance n govt pays for Max 52 weeks or sick n out of work then comes down to 15 weeks. There are mortgage insurance which covers your mortgage if you are out of work. People started abusing the system on EI and taking voluntary job termination after earning 600 hours.
There are other options for Canadians n new comers as Second Career whereas if you are well qualified n cannot get a job, govt pays for your education, living expenses books travel n helps you to be job ready in the market.
Many students take students visa in irrelevent field n come here after paying high international fees just to get inside Canada. After two years they don’t find the job they are looking for. Even then govt gives them work permit based on their years of study permit. FOR eg. If the student is here studying 8 months he will get 8 months or work permit. If the student studies for 3 years then he/she gets 3 yrs of work permit which qualifies for them to apply for Permanent Residency. Also international students qualify for scholorship upto Max 2000 dollars whereas Canadians Max only 1500 based on financial need.
Please do your assignment before you decide. If you really want to live and work here then its better to apply at young age before 30 to 35 as to get PR Canada used point system. Its not money grabbing system. Infact in 2015 Canada has new policy and all skilled worker category has to apply through express entry system. Appliants do not pay when applying. Before you apply please make sure you have taken IELTS n did the WES evaluation.
No job is small job. If someone enters into timhortons or McDonald we cannot look down on them. Respect comes from ones attitude n behaviour. Change the way of thinking n think positive. Good luck
You have some valid points. But here are other points we are raising in connection with your points:
1: Canada health care wait times are horribly very long. Any disease/condition deteriorates with time if not attended to immediately.
2: Foreign students pay three times more fees than local students.
3: Up to 12th class, education is free. But what after that? Students end up with a huge debt load by the time they graduate.
4: On average, even if every immigrant family brings $15,000 to $20,000 (we know many who bring many times more), look at how much cash is coming into Canada thanks to immigration without which Canada cannot simply do.
5: Yes, you get some money through government insurance programmes – EI, CPP, etc.- but you have already paid for them.
6: You pay taxes for everything over and above your income tax.
7: You argument that you build equity if you buy a house through mortgage is half-true. Mortgage payments are just one part of the story.
8: This is a monopoly country. Canadians pay much much more for their insurance (auto/home….), telecom bills and transport than most western countries, including the US.
9: There are not many quality jobs because this is a small country of 35 million people.
I believe the article is very old and debate is still going on. I just happened to see this in one of my friends FB post.
One thing to be noted Canada doewnt not belong to president Justin Trudeau, nor governer General. Except few born Canadians n natives all r immigrants.
There is a say.. Canada is free country. But nothing is free. Yes we do pay higher taxes but doesn’t mean residents r getting nothing.
We immigrated here in 1999. We have 3 kids. I never worked for 10 years. My husband was a officer in one of the bank in Dubai. But he had to upgrade his skills n take up entry level job. Once he got Canadian experience he moved up. While taking care of kids at home I took classes n did my post grad . I had to keep my options open . If I didn’t get accounting job I was ready to take either payroll or taxation. Looking at my credentials college offerered me a job at Finance and same time Canada Revenue offered me in Hamilton. It is not luck but goals n dedication and hard work
this your destiny brother if u have better country go there or go back to india will provide u all in better mananer i have few friends in canada all well setteled in canada what you written here is all fake dont balme the canada really your crazy
Sitting in Kuwait, how do you know about your friends and someone else’s story to be true or fake?
Perfectly well written, Canada is indeed a land of failed dreams. I am a pilot and landed in Toronto in 2012 and the clean air was welcoming, but in a few days to my utter shock, I came to know that as a pilot i had no future, after one year of hunting i got no job, my wife a dentist, but on landing was told no jobs for indian qualification. We were dejected and good sense prevailed and we returned. I am also shocked and saddened by comment by one Shujon Khondakar, on how rash and caustic comment she made for an Indian person, I want to say if this is what Cananda makes you like this person Khondakar, thank god we did not remain back.
Daljit,
As I see you mention my name and you have actually been to Canada and tried to get a job and all, I am enticed to respond. See, there is no easy way to success or every Ho & Jo would succeed just by coming to Canada.
My brother was a Pilot for Air Canada who got laid off some 15 years ago, he never blamed the country for becoming unemployed, he accepted he might have been in the bottom of the totem pool why they let him go. So he accepted what life threw at him and moved on to owning a Gas station.. today 8 of them.
On the other hand, you simply were unable to land a job and you went back. Perhaps, because pilot is a calling for you so you would rather be a Pilot in your own country than a gas station owner in another but that is your very own choice. I would say you should have already checked job availabilities online before even applying for Canadian immigration then find out what the required qualifications are for such job. Requirements may be very different in here than anywhere else. For doctors, dentists or any other health profession, it’s an universal knowledge that you will have to pass a Canadian exam first. Passing that exam could take years but if you did, you’d be all set. So let’s not blame Canada for your failures, it’s a land of opportunities but you have to utilize the opportunities it gives you.
On a side note for rest of you, here are some tips for you to make yourself more employable:
1. DO NOT smell like a curry-bag when you appear at any interview. I’m not being racist, it happened many times, you will have to work with others who are not used to curries and may make them nauseous so you will instantly slim down chances of being hired and make you start blaming Canada.
2. Take an English class locally so your English is not too broken or your accent is not too thick. Your team members may have to communicate with you. Language barrier may cause projects to fail.
3. Do not lie on your resume just to land a job, a smart interviewer may catch you on your lie or even if they don’t, you may eventually lose your job anyways and again, blame Canada. Just be honest.
4. Be good at what you do so it reflects in your confidence, if you are not good and interviewers detect and not hire you, you will again be blaming Canada for it.
5. Stop blaming Canada and take ownership of your own life. If you are really good at what you do, and you are kewl as a cucumber, you will find employment PERIOD.
This story seems to be akin to ” Grapes are sour” story. I landed just around the same time ( July 2009) in canada. Both my wife and myself got jobs in one month. My wife was offered a decent teaching job in a private school awaiting her OCT. We bought our home in 21 days after I landed here deciding to pay our own mortgage rather than someone else’s in the form of rent. Yes, downpayment is high for newcomers as there is no credit history but I pay meagre amount every month towards mortgage now. Rain or shine in our lives, we will not default because of small amount. We were very well settled in about six months with stable life with right kind of decisions and investments made here. I think one needs stay grounded. Planning, execution, determination with positive attitude makes the difference. One thing I can say confidently. Life in Canada is definitely a million times better than life in middle-east.
This is your story…and the writer has own story. And what you call `jobs’ that you and your wife got in one month depends on the profession. If you are unskilled and ready for any job, then you can get a job in Tim Horton the very next day. Moreover, many people (particularly unskilled) land here to join extended families and relatives, but many don’t have such support.
They arrived in wrong age with no planing.
Canada has its own standards for all the professions. Its not Dubai or middle East where any can be any thing. You have to qualify to meet the “set stabdard” in Canada….
Before landing at ” Toronto Pearson airport” She should have studied that how to get teaching license in Canada? How long will it take before she would get her teaching license? Where they were supposed to land? What is the best place where they would have more value of their experiences and professions??? These all are the few questions (out of hundreds of ) one should consider b4 lading at any airport in Canada.
And above all (since they were well well well settled in Dubai) she should have taken the bug off instead of letting the “bug” keep biting her hard… lol…
Good luck for all who are settled at their places and planing to move out any where else just b/c of a bug…
:p
No it is not a fool’s paradise it varies person to person, planning, execution, determination and obvious luck..!
Canada is the best Country in the World from my own experience.
Best country for me is Malaysia
Hi Everyone,
I am 28, a qualified chartered accountant from India. I have over 5 years of experience in SAP FICO currently working as a consultant.
May I know the possibilities of immigrating to Canada. I mean how the life would be initially and going forward in terms of career growth and standard of living aspects.
Your views, opinions and suggestions are welcome.
There are tons of Indian CAs in Canada as the financial sector offers best opportunities in this country.
Hustle, Secure, Invest
Hustle: This should be expected everywhere. Its 2016. World dynamics are much different. The “Rat race” has gained momentum. So Dubai, Mumbai, NY, Sydney, etc are not the same they were 10-20 years ago. If you move to Canada, be ready to keep up with the hustle. Its re-learning while simultaneously keeping up with age, life, commitments, etc
Secure: Live simple, Cut the flash and save your disposable income. Remember the old saying “Save for the rainy day” Coz rain it will and catch you by surprise. So keep your future financial shocks to a minimum by watching your present daily budget
Invest: This is a strategic stage. Requires you to make the best choice given your own circumstances. Better life starts showing up at the horizon based on this one crucial choice. Whether you invest in yourself in forms of eduction, relocating, etc or you invest where the returns yield the highest (even if this is outside Canada).
A bad investment decision will make you start over this process again. Time is of the essence. Start early, play hard and go home (includes Canada). Whats an MBA degree if you don’t apply its teachings within your own life. Use corporate tools to measure your moves. Its the same s^%t everywhere. What you focus on grows larger in your head, so focus on the positive
About me (33 yrs old)… I have been travelling since I was 18, single and free. Been to over 20 countries. Last run was when I went to US in 2008 and left in 2015. All those years were from one visa to another. Married, 1 child and migrating to Canada this year after getting our PR. I read this website to get viewpoints and boy are there some. Not afraid, will be strapping myself for this year and beyond. Lets see how it goes. Good thing is I have a very understanding spouse and a beautiful child who inspires me to give my best. Cheers !!!
I came to USA 45 years ago, at the age of 18 with $20 in my pocket by myself without knowing anyone. I worked at odd jobs, earned my engineering degree, worked as a professional engineer for 37 years, brought twenty of my brothers, sisters and their spouses and children. They came without any professional engineering/medical degree, twenty years ago, so they worked at odd jobs, but now they are doing Ok financially. One nephew got his engineering degree and has a great job. Another nephew just got his admission into a medical school. Others children are much younger I expect them to do well too. My brother in laws engage in fights with each other over small things and created bitterness among families. So, instead of being happy and thankful of their lives, they created unhappiness unnecessarily. They even lie to me and get into fights with me, showing complete disrespect, forgetting who brought them here. Sometimes, I feel sorry that I brought them here. Now, I am retired and moved away to another City and living well with retirement income. My big expense is health care insurance, which is $1,300 a month, which will continue another two years, until late I am 65, when we will get Medicare from the government at very low cost. I may move to another country temporarily where they offer free health insurance. This year we plan to visit a few countries including Europe and Canada. I have gained and lost millions of dollars doing stock trading over the years. Now, fortunately, my family can survive on my pension income alone. I still stay busy doing stock/Forex trading, and real estate agency, but I don’t have to do anything. That’s my life in a nutshell. I advise others to always be thankful and happyu wherever you are and with whatever they have. If you are determined to achieve something, you will achieve it, if you work at it and don’t give up. To me, I love this whole world and its diversity and I feel like I am a citizen of the whole world, and not just one country. I do love USA, the country of my dream, where I found my wife more than forty years ago, living happily with two beautiful daughters.
Hi Moderator, iam 40 years old working in a government organisation with 20 years experiance in India. my wife is 36 years old and working as a physician. we got 2 kids with ages 14 and 6. being a Doctor my wife filed immgration under express entry. will u please advice me on the decision as there is a lot of incongruity. Thanks and Regards.
If you both are well settled, what are the reasons for you to uproot yourself and move to Canada? Give any reasons.
Hi Sirinivas,
My parents are both doctor and my mom has 25 yrs expereince with post certification qualifications from Cambridge, UK (the world’s second ranked university). The only job she got was working in subway restaurant. Absolutely no professional jobs i am sorry to say. the highest your wife can achieve is a lab technician or something of an assistant and that too after upgrading herself. Canadians with absolute little knowledge will be preferred over your wife. sorry if it offended you but this is a very crucial point. ( Young Canadians are always and always preferred first even immigrants are have everything you can think of)
Hello guys
Today my friend told me about canadian pr person who got paralyzed in canada, came back to india on his relatives call, over stay here, got pr cancelled or what now trying to get pr renewed. Got his all savings washed in treatment here, says atleast i was having far better treatment their.
Now what to say, if this is situation of canada every year thousands of immigrants move thwir. With no job how canadian govt. Running free education, hospitals etc. If no jobs from where people r money for day to day expenses. Today best countries declared for work, and all canada stood 2.if thousands migrate how many come back. I feel one should migrate their but never sell anything in their home country unless u feel secure. Atleast u can start again.
Thanks
At the end of the day everything is eqaul. Canada’s health care is great because the hospitals can’t ROB you. Everybody pays in taxes, so doctors can’t be businessman (like in South Asia).That is the best advantage in Canada. Having said that, ‘health care’ all over the world is a racket. I, personally, have very little regard for GPs. The other problem in Asia is that, if you say ‘Canada/USA/UK/Etc’ doctors/health-care think you have a ‘money tree’ and will ROB YOU SILLY!
In countries that don’t have good public health care you need Insurance, in Canada we pay it upfront in Taxes, in other countries you need to buy your own Insurance, if you believe you need ‘doctors’. I for one, have NOT been to a doctor in the last 10+ years and if God should decide I should die, I will accept that – THERE IS NO PURPOSE in prologing the inevitable (health care still is unable to make people live forever -everybody dies – sooner or later)- although I am against suicide!
Tony, wait times by doctors are way too long in Canada. And we guess your ailment will only worsen if the wait period with doctor is too long. But this is the harsh truth about health care in Canada.
Hi moderator, I am 22 years old and I want to move to Canada.i have completed my bachelor in commerce .can you tell me about jobs. Is it really too difficult to find .I mean ,not a White collar but an odd one.please guide me in this situation.
Thanks 2 all for views. I am not veey keen to settle abroad. With 95% marks hard to get addmission for student . No increase in colleges. Pvt. College’s minting money. My friend gave 2000000 for admission in mbbs. I do believe it is hard there but life is uncertain here. Very few academic seats, 35% fixed for lower class, i mean to say if u want To make money india is for u, if u want life, no adultry in food then u have to move out. Modi is buttering to invest in india but can’t change the labour laws. Labour court humiliate businessmen as he has done something wrong doing business.
Its hard here also. Every immigrant brings money there over here who is migrating and bringing money.uneducated huge population population spitting every where. No one from this forum will say india is shining just give visit to patna, bihar railway station. I bet u will not come to india.
Bother i am in delima to taking decision whether i should move or not after reading views and seeing situation here also.
Ok gona go catch u later
byebye
Hi I am 41 years old working in a private sector bank having MBA and done graduation in chemistry with experience of 15 years in sales marketing and banking in working capital . I have applied for PR visa and what are job prospects in Canada and what will be avg salary. How much time it will take to settle in Canada. My daughter is in standard 4 so will there be any issue in getting her admitted in standard 5. Do you advise shud I visit there for final round of interview before putting resignation here by coming back to canada .
Please advise and guide
Moderator, how is the interest of $300,000 taxed?
If the interest is transferred from India to Canada, why would it be taxed.
They will tax in India.
Thanks Moderator, 4000/-is enough for a family of four in outskirts of Vancouver. Here in india govt. Gives 8% return p/a. Investing 300000$ would fetch me 2000$ .can i will be able to bag 2000/ from job. I don’t want to waste my money. Pls suggest if any other eay round. If i go alone to live for 6months can i survive with 2000$.
Ajit, $4000 is more than enough for a family of four on the outskirts of Vancouver – whether it is Surrey or Richmond or Burnaby. And yes you can earn $2,000 from odd jobs – like working at a Tim Horton. But you won’t earn $2000 in interest in India on your $300000 because you have to factor in inflation also. Moreover, interest also gets taxed. If you have $300,000, why don’t you start something in India? But if you still want to come to Canada, then come alone and spend six months here to see if it is worthwhile. Our advice to people is this: All that glitters is not gold. There are not many good jobs in Canada. And Indians should not overly impressed by Canada or US, etc. India is a big thriving market and the future belongs to it.
If you have $2,000 in India why would you want to come to Canada? Having said that, your $2,000 will get taxed and the $2,000 (if you are very lucky to get such a job) will get taxed. Even if your $2,000 won’t get taxed your earning will be taxed heavily because you have extra income.
A person earning $3,640 ($21 per hour – case study of a teacher’s salary) per month will only take about $2,200 home every month. Canada does NOT have free health-care, everybody pays for it in very high taxes and the doctors here will still tell you that ‘they are working for you for free’ (I am quoting a doctor) expecting you to treat him like a God.
You really need to read the other comments here and make an ‘informed’ decision… if not you may lose your family’s unity…
Dear moderator. I am 45 and with a good command of English and French (translator/interpreter) as I am originally from a North African country. My wife and I are working in Dubai. We got 2 kids : 6 and 9 . My wife has the opportunity to move from her current position (manager in an international financial institution) to the same position in the same institution in Canada. She is 35. The age is on her side but not on mine. Do you think I can get something to help earn my living? We would like to secure a good future for the kids. Are there French schools in Toronto? Do we need to pay for that? How much does it cost approx per month for a family of 4 to live in Toronto?
If you are earning good money in Dubai (which you must be), then think hard before taking any decision and the best route for you to come Canada should be through your children. When they are college-going age, send them to Canada. Once they complete their education, they will easily get permanent resident and sponsor you. But this will involve a long wait. But why not? If you want to emigrate now, here are the answers to your questions:
1: Age is not on your side, but since you know French you will definitely land some job here and there. Be ready to do anything.
2: As you said, you wife will get the job in Canada what she is right now. Which is a very good thing. Also, age is on her side.
3: Your kids are at the right age to move to a new country.
4: Yes, the kids can take up French in Toronto also. School education is free.
5: You will need a very minimum of $3,000 per month to live in Toronto.
Thank you moderator. By the way,how much time do we need to stay in Canada till y got full citizenship?
Hi.
I am 27yrs old engineer.I was going to USA for masters but unfortunately due to ongoing immigration crackdown I was stopped at Detroit n sent back to India.now my dilemma is to move either to Canada or Australia. I don’t have command on my subject as I was into business after my undergraduate.I am ready for odd jobs n continue with my graduation in project management or safety management..I am not settled in India so I can start from scratch in either Canada or Australia.. Please help me I am in a lot of depression..
Yes, you can come as a student. Almost all international students work part-time to earn their expenses.
Thanks, but my education gap is 6 yrs and I am finding difficult to get offer letters from colleges. I think I cannot apply under spp program too…I am very much confused and not able to plan my next step.
Why don’t you just apply for immigration to Canada and Australia because you are just 27? You very well qualify and we hope you will get it very soon. No need to get confused…it doesn’t help. Take you destiny in your own hands and you will be okay very soon. Don’t give up…almost all young people go through confusion and depression.
I am 35 years old working in Kuwait. I have several certifications including CA (India), CIA(US), CISA(US) and CFE (US) and Bachelors degree from India. I have been into Internal Auditing throughout my career and my wife is also an Indian CA who is into Finance. Do you think it is a good idea to consider moving. I already have Canadian PR.
People in well-paying and settled jobs should think many times before they take any decision. If you have Canadian PR, why did you go back to work in Kuwait. Obviously, you know that there are not too many great jobs in Canada unless you are willing to start something of your own that most immigrants end up doing.
Hi every. Reading all seems to be very hard. Where should one rest before resting in peace. Here in India, it is also very hard not in terms of job or doing business but the govt. Policies,pollution,no control on food adultery, dengu fever.Pvt Doctors pray for rainy season, govt. Hospitals are packed,bedsheets with blood in emergency ward. living is curse here also. Where should I move. Govt can’t even provide clear drinking water.
Brother i want to move to Canada. My rental income here in india is 100,000/-INR. I can invest 300000 canadian$. Can i survive with investing that money? I do not want to mint money. Just need better living. As far kids r concerned, here also drug,sex games r very common. Girls booking wrongly on rape cases. U will not bailed for 11months still if u r booked falsly. So wat u guys say. India 1billion market, if u r booked by ur employer 1billion is needed for police, Court.
I knew canada is hard to digest. But if u have the money can u survive. Pls. Suggest some small business that can earn me 4000/$.
Thanks
People shouldn’t exaggerate their circumstances. $300000 is a good amount to start any small business anywhere. But whether you earn $4000 0r $400 depends on your hard work and your business. And then there is the right age to do things.
Anyone from Europe you can see clearly here that Canada is the land of third world immigrants. If you enjoy living in Africa or Asia then come here, but if you want Europe with better weather then Australia is a preferable option. I lived in Canada for ten years and became a millionaire quite quickly but got lucky and that was a few years ago before Canada became Canuckistan.
Hi Hasha,
you will be fine if you have that mindset and be able to do a lot more. I would suggest bigger cities for job diversity. Middle of Canada have few jobs and terribly cold while the west coast has house prices booming which makes it hard to live in the west. People are shifting towards the east. Ontario or Quebec would be your best bet. minimum wages apply and are little different province to province. One specific job that might interest you if you are just looking for work and lots of money is the oil sands in Alberta. Its extremely good money but its labor job and extremely cold camp life.
Hope it helps
Thank you Salman . thanks a lot . I will process for Alberta .
I am writing here to know honest opinion and advice for me to apply immigration to Canada. I don’t have hopes of working a white collar job, my main aim is to live there and work any possible blue collar job be it call centers or any other job. But i want to know how much money can i really make as my aim is to send money home so that i can make a small home and give my family good life style ,
i am willing to work weekends and do about 8-9 hours of work a day, please advice. i am saving around 10,000 Indian rupees a month here and i have a decent job. i want to immigrate to Canada and work to be able to send more money home.
Please advice real true facts. how much money can i make and which provinces in Canada are best for odd jobs.
Many thanks.
Why not go to the middle east? If you have a surplus of Rs. 10,000 you are already doing well in India… I doubt you will be able to save that much in Canada… many new Immigrants lose about US$ 30,000 in Canada BEFORE they realize the mistake. There are ‘waiting lists’ for odd-jobs too! You really need to read the ‘negative’ comment and take it to heart. It is NOT easy for people to make these comments, but they are doing it so that they can help others avoid the same ‘traps’ they fell into… they really do mean well…
You are suffering because you have made some very basic financial mistakes. you are the reason you are suffering – please dont blame the country.
1. instead of using up your savings, you should have invested your savings and utilized the interest to manage day to day expenses. you were “successful, double income” couple in Dubai for 20 years – you should be able to invest 2-3 million at least.
2. You have to get a job and start working. you were stuck up about teaching. why? your ego may have been the reason for your downfall.
hi guys , hope keeping well, I have been in process to start for PR by the help of agent Y-axis in India, I am post graduate in Tourism subject-Master’s of Tourism Administration,having experience of 14 yrs -sales & marketing in business building planning capacity in hospitality & travel back ground ( travel firm), how well prospect to find a good job in Canada , I would opt to if job will be called up me from Canada JOB bank.
I am 40 yrs old with wife highly qualified ( hindi back ground), blessed with two kids age 6 & 7yrs by now studing well convent school in India, as I am holding a responsible position in private firm … pls advise how we can survive under above circumstances experience like me..first I will go & then join my family later ??
Hi Pk,
I am sorry to say that you are still chasing the illusion. if you read the two comments before, you should understand its almost impossible. I can say 100% sure you will NEVER get a call for a job here in Canada. They will bring you in but make you work in gas stations and convenient stores. there are people who are 20 years old college drop out and they are doing hospitality and tourism. Remember they will always have preference before you. Vancouver is a tourist city in Canada but this place is simply Hong Kong and china. the city is filled with chinese and their network is unbeatable. even in a dream, its impossible to find job if you dont know chinese friend circle or mandarin language. Unfortunately, this is the reality. Please dont think put yourself through this self torture
Totally understand where the author is coming from.
Canada’s real business model is immigration. That is where their Governments makes money and this is what runs their schools, universities, hospitals and telecom companies. All other industries are corporation owned with very little chance for SME’s to survive. The government has gotta sell the Canadian Dream to survive. You and your savings are the product!
It is a vicious circle after you have landed where your resources & esteem are systematically taken away while conditioning you to become a Canadian, i.e., someone who lives pay check to pay check with massive student, car and home loans.
The struggle everyone’s talking about, “the Canadian struggle” is not worth it. Working sub-standard jobs, you would not have even dreamt of doing in your life for 4 to 5 years and all you get is an eligibility to get a loan on a house or an entry-level job in an office is not worth it. Your life is more than this mediocrity. With the same effort, you can thrive in your own country. Work equally hard in your own country and you can build real assets that will last generations.
Cut your loses, break the cycle and get out of this vicious circle. I did and it is much better now. Do not force your self to continue this self-torture, it is not worth it. The illusion of having the benefits of a Canadian passport is just illusion. Even Canadians are coming to Middle East and India for jobs because there are none in the west.
It is easy to say why don’t you just leave and go back. However, the waste of time, waste of money, waste of happiness and waste of self-esteem and waste of oppurtunities lost is something that warrants warning other’s who are blinded by the ‘Canadian Dream’.
To those, Beware, Canada’s real business model is immigration and the game is stacked against you and the house will always win.
Well said! I also earn away from Canada. The sad part is most are in denial (showing off/living a lie). It is apparent that even the Syrian refugees is a money/slavery racket as they are given INSTANT permanent residency – they think it is great – but that means the Government is off the hook and the top 75 families, once again, have a LABOUR SURPLUS for McJobs! 🙂
I came to Canada as a student for 1-year PG course. Worked in factories and gas stations. I was highly qualified back home with an MBA. Never expected to have such a bad life in Canada. I was not getting any white-collar job – my family saw all this when they came to visit me. I had a good background back home, so they asked me to move back to my native country. But it has been 5 months and I am not able to find any job in my field. Now I think have I taken a wrong decision. I’m 24 now and can easily get permanent residency in Canada due to high points.
My friends, who got PR, are highly qualified people. They have worked in big firms in UK and Asia. In Canada, they work in call centers and gas stations – they regret their decision to come to Canada.
Experienced people please guide me. Shall I go back to Canada if I don’t get job in more 6 months? I am so confused. Please help. I am waiting for your reply – admin and moderator and experienced people.
So you are based in Maharashtra, India, right? Looks like you are THE problem. Your dilemma is that you can’t decide what to do – whether to go back to Canada or stay on in India. Remember a few things. One, wherever you start in life, be ready to rough it out. You are 24 years old. So what is wrong if you have to work in gas stations or call centers for some time? You should be determined to better your life and you will be okay. But India’s job market is many many many times bigger than Caanda’s. You can have much better prospects and also enjoy better social and family life in India than Canada. Why are you running after Canadian PR? Just because some of your friends or your neighbours have Canadian PR? Don’t get too impressed by foreign PR or passports. Don’t live someone’s else life or dream, live your own life and dream and you will do fine.
Dear Moderator
Thanks for quick reply really appreciate your efforts to help others. One thing I forgot to mention my family don’t want me to move back to Canada. I’m confused because im jobless when I was working I was not able to get work every day but 2-3 times a week . But as per your experience is it a good decision to waste my youth in blue collar jobs I consulted my friends in Australia and the situation is same there. The problem in India is I can’t get a job I’m freaking out cuz of that and the problem in Canada is that there are low chances of getting good job.shall I do blue collar jobs in Canada. In India I just need a job I have every thing else I mean to say luxuries. Please reply respected moderator sorry for bothering you apologise.
You are just 24. So age and time are on your side. Try hard to get a job in India because you have all the other luxuries there. Give yourself one year from today to settle into a good job in India. If it doesn’t work out, then move to Canada. We are sure you will be very happy after one year.
Thanks alot I would try to do as u suggested me god bless you moderator
Dear Confused boy, I have done business with India since 1991. I get at least 1 call per month from an Indian youth looking for the ‘Canadian dream’… I tell them ‘you are in a 1BN home market, if you can’t make it in India what makes you think you can here?’ You have 1 Billion people in Canada! Canada is a great country if you HAVE MONEY and WANT HIGHLY-EDUCATED SLAVES to work for you, or you want to become a Highly-Educated-Slave! The choice is yours.
Sorry, mistake = 1Billion Market in India (not Canada)
Hear confused,
I’m in India – Maharashtra and here too at 24 not everyone gets a job like the one ur looking for. After MBA also I was getting terrible jobs so I had to work in a call centre and for many years struggled. Then finally I did B.Ed because education field had vacancies. Finally I got a job as per pay commission and currently have been promoted to management level (after 10 years in teaching line) but still I cant support a family. So struggle is everywhere. I tried Canada but If you’re happy in India, make your life here. In Canada even teachers don’t get jobs. I’ve many friends who regret migrating… so I stuck on here.
Dear all, I am Inshad Ali. I have done MSW form Indira Gandhi National Open University. I have good experience to work as Social worker and my age is 47. Now I want to migrate to Canada. Please advice me it is good to move canada at this stage.
Waiting for your reply
Inshad, you should be very cautious at this age because you are already a little too late.
Hi everybody,I came to canada in 2012 dreaming big on a student visa.. the moment I landed I got to know the harsh reality. I felt very bad.. after graduating from the college I could not get any job offers from my hr field.. I actually got selected in an insurance company but was not offered a job because the company hired only citizens or permanent residents. I was depressed as I was running out of time on work permit of one year, with so walk ins and dropping resume I got a cashier job in 7-eleven Winnipeg. I went through lot of shitty experiences working there. but I was fortuanate to get a letter for pnp and my pr was approved in 2015 February.. meanwhile I upgraded my job skills, computer skills and was desperate to quit 7-ELEVEN job, fortunate enough I got to make friends among my customers, one kind hearted lady working in a bank referred me for a job in her bank but different location and I was through the job , now I am working and having a content life. I feel bad for what we have,had gone through. but its a different world. unless you know somebody. have contacts in the field of your choice its difficult to get a job. God bless you all
Canada is a frozen hellhole. The education in Asia is far more superior than Canadian education.
There are Canadian born professionals who can’t compose proper sentences, and there are also Canadian born doctors who managed to use affirmative action policies to become doctors, yet they can’t compose a patient letter properly.
What makes it more of an insult is that schools in Canada tend to focus more on teaching about perverse topics to children. Heck, there are even stories where female teachers are inserting dildos inside themselves through their jeans in front of a classroom in Ontario.
If you have any ounce of respect, DO NOT COME TO CANADA. Unless your life is threatened by war, famine or other push factors, you are better off in your home countries.
It is very unfortunate that educated immigrants are scammed by the system. Canada is a bad influence for your children as I mentioned above; your daughters will become promiscuous feminists and your sons will be marginalized and end up using drugs to deal with the depressed anti-masculine life in Canada.
There is reason why the top and brightest go to the USA at the earliest opportunity, and the majority make way better money than they were in Canada.
Yes, the Canadian public education system has become very perverse now. The school boards use ‘very cleaver’ language to frighten parents so that the kids can learn the ‘joys of lesbianism and homosexuality’ at a very early age!
AVON , it’s not a fool paradise I believe the life western country , are really good , as I was in uk for seven years that to I reside in central london , I was 22 when I made a move to london for pursuing my masters I enjoy my life to the MAX western country’s include America uk canda Australia or New Zealand , these people enjoy life they” know what they want from life ” going pub disco ‘ wondering , as I say don’t see what? Job you either work in gas station are super market , don’t Jude this job is big and is small , so work hard play hard…… Asian culter and Middle East culer is not applicable , in Europe America or canda …. I suppose every indiual who migrate to western country ‘s keep in mind try to enjoy life don’t do long shift espically in weekend time , try to keep yourself happy …. For student ‘s life is really good when you enjoy I like western culture want to be a part of it ‘these people are brodmind …. Open hatred and with a “good head” I suppose canda is the second beautiful country in the world , as I aware… For people who are migrating for ” Middle East ” espically MuSLim they can’t enjoy life because of ristrection ‘ they can’t vist bar disco are any other place either they can’t drink allcoholl , beer or wine , for other community’s people is good place …. For others they want to hook out espically in weekend time … Wondering around pubs and disco’s life is really good when you enjoy … and please don’t run behind money …
I am 37 yeras of age and a government teacher on contract in punjab earning 38k. My wife is a teacher in a private school earning 30k. We are blessed with a 10 years old son. We are planning to go to canada by getting PR but are in a fix. Please suggest whether we should pursue this process or not.
Wow, are you kidding? You live in India and make 68K between you? Is that in US funds?
Do not move to Canada. $68K Canadian is nothing, and it will take years to get a teaching job. Every thing is over priced, and it’s cold.
Hi Girish,
Are you ready to struggle and work as labourer making marginal $10/hr for few years atleast? Forget getting becoming a teacher in Canada, there is a waiting list of teachers who are Canadian citizen and they will be given preference over you.
If you can get you son good education in India, then stay put here and put him in French classes. Prepare him to be multilingual and ready for Canada and send him there for graduation.
Invariably both of you will have to work really hard if you choose to immigrate, leaving your son on his own most of the time. Remember after 14 yrs there is no baby sitting, he will become latch key kid. You never know what the kids are upto, specially with open culture in Canada which distracts them from career.
Right age for immigrating to any country is below 30 yrs.
My family and me want to immigrate to Canada. I need to find a job in Canada before we move there so that I can make it. What is the best way to start the process of looking for work?
hey Jeff good day to you.. I advice you to focus on the companies that you know do the kind of work that you have done and that you understand. There’s nothing like being interviewed by a company whose business you understand really well. This significantly increases your chances of success: ww uniivaa com hey-ya-super-star-do-you-want-a-job-in-canada-if-so-then-don-t-spurn-the-commonplace
The original writer of this article has a point. Some of the comments also have good points. What most don’t understand is the problem in Canada is NOT a simple new immigrant issue. It is a problem of an ‘Oligarchy’ (a private club of about 75 families) controlling everything.
The problems/questions the original writer has applies to a lot of ‘old stock’ Canadians too. While ‘new stock’ blame racism/discrimination, the ‘old stock’ blame ‘new immigrants’ and it suits the game-plan of the ‘Oligarchy’ as they achieve their objective.
One method the ‘Oligarchy’ protects themselves is by the ‘Recruiter racket’. The recruiter is a buffer so that the ‘Oligarchy’ can’t be sued for discrimination. I have met (did a study of) almost all major recruiters and this is the pattern of things. For example, if I wanted to hire a particular type of person/s to my organization, I would tell my recruiter that ‘our organization culture is very `west European` – that gives a subtle indicator to the recruiter what type of person ‘the Oligarchy’ wants to hire… another example would be ‘We need to increase our Asian presence (affirmative action)’ – that would say ‘WE DON’T WANT WHITE’…
Now for some figures..
New Immigrants bring a minimum of US$ 7.5BN per year to Canada. That means the ‘Oligarchy’ gets US$ 7.5Billion worth of NEW customers per year (so the Oligarchy does not need to keep old customers happy).
Other ‘New Immigrants’ who refuse to do ‘slave’ jobs will do other’s do things like continue to do business in their own countries, import/export, etc. They will be happy as long as they earn a few thousand $. If they become competitive with the ‘Oligarchy’ they get bought over. That is why it becomes increasingly difficult for new comers to become successful in their Entrepreneurship, as the ‘Oligarchy’ cannot sustain the ‘buying out’ of the competition – so rules are passed and fees/taxes are increased, etc.
Anyway, the 2nd type of Immigrant contributes about US$150 Billion per year to Canada.
So, Immigrants serve two purposes: Cash for the ‘Oligarchy’ and ‘Slaves’ for the ‘Oligarchy’.
I guess this answers ANY AND ALL questions new and old-stock Canadians may have as to why the governments do some things.
Any ‘adverse’ comments like mine gets ignored or the Media will have a program with ‘experts’ to criticize my views, like the views of the original writer was criticized by the use of an ‘expert’ in another professional forum…
Very good and true analysis. I would like to add, once you have been awarded the ‘old customer’ batch that you mentioned, you are ready Student Loan, Car Loan & Home Loan. Student loans with no jobs for an education system that is a joke. Almost everyone in Canada is on Loans making you a slave. Those not on Loans are on the road and a pay-check away from it. Scam of a country.
Dear Moderator,
I am 47 years old, a postgraduate dentist, working in the Middle East.I would like to migrate to Canada.What are my chances in getting a PR and a job? Please guide.
You will have to re-qualify here! You will need to have an excellent command of English or French. During that time you will have to survive the exorbitant electricity, water, heating bills, telephone/cell-phone/cable-tv/Internet, rent. Which means any money you bring will be over VERY SOON.
You will be desperate to get work and will take any job that comes your way. If you have kids, especially daughters, they will ‘do everything’ to fit in… your husband and your relationship (if you are married) will be TESTED to the MAXIMUM.
You are 47, keep in mind that every year MILLIONS of dentists (and other professions) come out of university and start working at starter salaries. So, nobody would want to hire you, unless they want someone VERY CHEAP.
You can read my comment below (Anthony) and also the original writer… do you think she/he was MAD to write it… do you think she is lesser than you?
DON’T BELIEVE THE LIE THAT CANADA DID NOT UNDERGO A MELTDOWN IN 2008 LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD. GOOGLE ‘CANADA BANK BAILOUT’!
If your plan is for your kids and grand children then you might decide on coming but that is a 30+ year plan. There is no guarantee that your kids will succeed and produce grand children for you.
I build businesses internationally and work with clients/companies in India (in addition to other countries). I get many requests per week by young boys and girls inquiring of migrating to Canada. I tell them ‘you are in a 1 Billion people market… if you can’t make it in India what makes you think you can make it here?’.
The point I am trying to make is as per my main comment. In every country there are the ‘powerful’, ‘middle-class’ and ‘poor’. Canada is the same. But Canada allows you to live in somewhat dignity as a low middle-class, poor. That is Canada’s advantage. But remember, here too there is a powerful ‘class system’ (Even Russia has a class system, so do you think Canada does not?) – you will realize it after a few years.
Please do your research… think if you have a better chance of investing in your own country – at the end the choice is purely yours… but again I caution you, it is NOT easy and be ready to start from the bottom.
If you can bring over US$60,000 and build your credit you can purchase a franchise (after about 3 years). That is the best way to go – so if you come DON’T SPEND YOUR MONEY ON CARS, CELL PHONES, CABLE, ETC. Live humbly, build your credit and buy a business! Get a small credit card and make sure you pay your bills on time. Please remember Internet/Cable/Cell-Phones is VERY EXPENSIVE in Canada and if you miss a payment it affects your credit rating. Once you have a bad rating every company will use it to charge you more (that is the biggest racket in Canada).
Good luck. Pray!
Hello,
I am planning to apply for Canada PR, Working in MNC company in Bangalore, India, in SAP HANA domain and carrying 4 years exp in IT. Can some one suggest me it would good to apply this time or do I need to wait some more time to get experience in IT.
If you have planned to move, then don’t wait. But it depends on your age and other circumstances – like being married and having children.
I am single and 28 years old. But what about SAP HANA market there.
There was a similar question some time and it was answered by an expert who knew about SAP. Just check it in these earlier posts. Meanwhile, we have forwarded your question to the same gentleman. The moment he responds, we will post it here. Thanks.
The advice from the expert to you is this: HANA is in memory computing for speed whereas the world is moving to cloud computing. However, it won’t hurt you to search for SAP-related jobs in Canada even as they push hard for HANA.
Hello,
I am planning to apply for Canada PR. I have done Masters of Accounting and Financial Management from La Trobe University Australia. I am married and do not have any kids. My age is 29 years. Can please some one tell me will it be worth coming there? I understand to do a bit research before I land there but do they accept my Australian Masters degree which will help me to lend a good job? Please advise guys.
Canada essentially accepts some foreign degrees, but local upgradation is required. You are in the right field and at the right age without big family commitments. But if you have some good job already, why do you want to uproot yourself?
A friend of mine who has an MBA and other high-end qualifications who was a ‘Finance Director/Controller (big job with Driver, Car, expense account, etc)’ in his own country is a simple accountant/book-keeper here.
I earn all my money from out of Canada from my business contacts I made before coming to Canada. I have not made ANY substantial paying contacts since coming to Canada and ENGLISH is my first language.
Its your call…
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Canada is not a land for the faint- hearted, or those that are seeking instant gratification. I emigrated here from India in 1970.I was a teacher….but all I could get was substitute teaching in Montreal. Back then immigration from Asia was low and bigotry played a large part in job or career searches. But, if you were adaptable and willing to chose a new path,( which I did) you made it! I got in with corporate retail giant in 1971 and went from sweeping stockroom floors and moving freight to a V.P in 1995. And then the company was sold in 1997. I had to start again from the bottom up and after working for a private mismanaged company for a few years I opened my own company in the same field and am successful again. The point is….if you are passionate about what you do for a living and willing to adapt….you can make a good life anywhere. Here you learn to appreciate change…just as you are playing your best golf….it’s time to pack away your clubs. Just when you think it has been the hardest winter…the new green buds appear. I love this country as well as the live it has given me!
Hai,
Iam trying to get PR to canada.I am a proffessional with Engineering expertise.I need to know after I move to canada which is the best place to find jobs in Oil & gas field so that i will move to that place ? iam 38 years old.
Please advise.
Hi Admin,
I’m 38 yrs and work in banking operations n sales of banking products which includes investment and loans.I m a single mother. Purely due to financial situation and to get my child good education I’m planning to move to canada.Kindly advice
Yes, there is very good scope in your profession in Canada. But, again, you will your initial struggles and you may have to update your skills as per Canadian requirements. Yes, you child will have good education. If you are decided, don’t delay because of your age. We have always advised people MUST be that they very very careful when they decide to migrate after the age of 40.
Hi,
I am 38, IT professional with 12 Years of experince.I am working in India in Software MNC with technologies Microsoft SharePoint and K2,ASP.NET ,C#. I am planning to apply for PR. Although I am family with wife and 2 kids, initially I am thinking to go to Canada alone for months or a Year and then after making initial setup there I wil take my family there.
My concern is about my age (38) and the opportunities. Looking at the comments above do I also need to take some schooling/course in Canada or directly can get a job in my field. I don’t want to spend my current earnings of learnings in Canada. I am planning to search job first then fly to Canada.Please suggest. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
hi
i am in shipping for15 years and sailing as chief engineer on oil tankers.,Now i am planning to take up shore job. Any one who knows about shipping can guide me is it right choice to take up job in canada.How is job prospects for shipping.
pls advise me,
Hi,
just wanted to add my responses after reading this article . Unfortunetly all the issues the writer has spoken about, new immigrants face in Canada are true. I immigrated to Canada in 2003 from the U.S. Since i was immigrating from the U.S. the immigration process was a bit shorter and eaiser and all my college credits and work experience was accepted. However i seem have run into many similar issues as the writer has mentioned above.
I have looked back at the last 12 years and compared to friends I went to school with in the U.S. Yes immigrants in Canada face a very very challenging life these days and is not as fruitful a
there are a few reasons why things in Canada have become harder for immigrants in the past ten years.
first, until 2001 canada was by many reguarded as a easy gateway for immigrating to the U.S. due the changes in the immigration policies that have taken place in the last ten years that is no longer the case .
also the number of immigrants coming into Canada has drastically increased and the Canadian infrastructure has not made many changes in order to support this change.
officialy Canada did not see much of a ression.LOL every canadian knows the reason how Canada has managed to remain financially healthy on the books. High Taxes high inflation of everything while benefits, pay and employment cuts have hit hard . Every Canadian has been experiencing this while the News channels kept blasting about how well the economy was doing compare to south of the border.
There are many more reasons to why immigrants face a very challenging life in Canada now days .
also wanted to respond to the frustration the writer has show about buying a house and being buried under a home loan . The property prices in Canada are off the hook because of immigration policies that allow investors to invest in any property value X amount of dollars and getting PR on the spot.
If your looking to make a better life and great money for yourself then Canada is not a place you want to immigrate to . If you are looking to make Canada a better place then you should think about moving to Canada
Dear Moderator,
I am 31 of age and MBA (Marketing), B.tech(Mechanical)having 5+ years of work ex. 3+ years in industrial product sales (same product is sold in canada n worldwide n may b i can work as agent/freelancer for same product in canada but not sure as of now) and 2 years as software Testing Engineer. I am in talks with a consultant who is promising min 5 interviews (max. no cap) from canadian employers and asking 60K for that and is signing legal bond for same (money will be refunded if interviews not conducted). They will also guide me on interview clearing tips etc.It will be work permit for 2-3 yrs and tickets, accommodation sponsored by employer if selected.
Family details:
Wife,30yrs, govt. teacher job for last 6 yrs
Kid, 3 yrs
I request your views on this scenario (as i haven’t come across any other consultant promising all this). AND, wud it be better if I opt for PR rather this Work permit and start with odd jobs there and side by side get myself enrolled in any evening sales/technical etc course which can help in decent job (either in engineering or MBA). I will move alone first and will call family once i settle myself, targeting 1-1.5 yrs for that.
Look forward to your valuable feedback and any other things you would like to share/inform.
Thanks.
They are lying. If there are no jobs where you can’t find it for yourself. It ain’t worth it. You will have much better jobs in India than Canada with the qualification you have
Hi all
II’m 33 n working as a middle level manager with an mnc in india.india . my husband is 37 n eemployed with an Indian financial market firm.firm . We are planning to migrtate to australia. But also are thinking of planning to file for a pr to Canada. My main reason to move it to have a better living standard n escape the heat;; pollution etc..We got no kids have recently bought an apartment on loan so nonot much in liquid savings..though my husband feels he’s to old for d move n all but is ready to give it a shot..I figured the pr process of Canada is faster than that of Australia n costs less in terms of visa fee n liquidity that one is required to show..kindly share ur views as all the people I know who are settled abroad suggest australia is better and they all pretty much act as if the are all super happy wherever they are (canada aus n uk) even while they are doing ok kind of jobs.(telephone operator cook)one of them I know got employed at the airport n didn’t even know a word of English wen she moved 7 years back.back . all in all I know that here in india ..They wwud b working under me if they were here…so please guide me ..I’m ok to do such jobs Iver there as long as we are able to make good money and buy property in india without a loan etc n have liquid savings for retirement. .kindly guide.
This article is ridiculous. It’s more about the author whining over their wrong life and career choices. Bimal Sharma, I live in New York and have seen countless people from India making a decent if not luxurious living in Canada. Here’s what they do:
1. They PLAN OUT before hopping onto that maple leaf flight.
2. They KNOW that they have to work petty jobs even before they land and still don’t give up on their Canadian dream.
3. They worked REALLY hard in India to earn their CA, CFA or Engineering from IIT, MBA from IIM. Basically they’re aren’t just teachers and construction workers and worked really hard for their education.
4. They know what they want and HOW they will get it before hopping onto that plane. They don’t listen to “friends/family” before making choices for their own lives and they’re highly successful in Canada.
5. They go out giving interviews and get selected purely on their credentials.
Stop whining about your failures and name calling a country (Fool’s paradise? not really, you’re the fool here because you didn’t do your homework before taking that flight)
Your ridiculous article may ruin someone else’s dream, someone who is more deserving than you. Go back to dreaming in Dubai.
Hello people, I need some advice.
I am a post graduate in dentistry from an internationally renowned Institute in India. I wish to apply for a PR, and then hopefully get into a Canadian University to validate my qualifications as a specialist. What are your thoughts on this?
Thank you in anticipation
Kunal, you will do very well. Dentistry is one of the best-paying professions in North America.
hello everyone,
I have already posted a couple of questions before and got relevant and decent reply.
One more query, does anybody have any idea about which professional/vocational or any other course, I (38, Master of finance and control) and/or my wife (36, Master of Arts (English)) should pursue in Canada (preferable Toronto) so as to get a job within 6 months to 1 year. I have two kids, 11 years and 4 years. I have a fund backup to survive for 10 to 12 months, Thanks.
I find it rather sad, that these people come here expecting it to be the same as their home. They do little to no research. Which is their own fault. You must check if your education is good enough for the country your moving to. If not the upgrade before you come as education isn’t subsidized if not from the country your going to. What is the cost of living and the income level for the job you do, to maintain the same lifestyle or better than the country you come from. What one can do, is invest in a business before you come, so one can subsidize their burden when they first get here. Most of these people, just decide one day, they want to move to what they think is a better place. Then once they get here, they are shocked that it’s like most countries, with uphill battles without doing any research, to ease the transition.
hi everyone, one of our friend told us that immigration to canada is very easy.i am M Tech Computer Engg and working as Assistant professor in Mumbai with 7 yrs experience in teaching. He told me that u can easily get a job in Canada. He is trying to find a job for me like in resaerch so that i can earn n study also. My husband is also MBA in HR. We have decided to migrate to canada with family.is it worth for us?
Please suggest me.
Hello, everybody i have quick query for the experienced as well as well settled Canadian Immigrants. I have 10+ years of Human Resource Experience in recruitment and training field and with age of 30+ years. Iam currently employed with a private firm and have decided to apply for Canada visa. I have spoken to some of the consultants and they all want to charge hefty amount for the entire process and proclaim that the HR field is quite in demand in Canada. I request you guys to share your inputs on the same so that i can go ahead with my decision to apply for Canada visa. thanks very much.
Hi Dan,
The best advise is that since you have a job, come to visit Canada for a month. talk to people here and think about it. My cousin did HR from Toronto and he got great job offer. However, the reality is not changed. more than likely, you will have to upgrade here, start at entry level. those experience will not count till you get a job first. there are thousands of canadians who will get priority over you. Regarding, immigration, its better to go through consultants. very few people do it themselves but its possible.its just a matter of knowing. i know the steps now but since people dont immigrate frequently, everyone goes through a lawyer for this sensitive move. Also the rules change frequently, so hard for an average joe to know.
I am talking for Vancouver as i live here
First and foremost, my opinion only, is that the author DID NOT go through an elaborate process of researching and planning before making the application. Emigrating is one HUGE decision that one can’t take it too lightly especially involving dependants(it has nothing to do with the alleged ‘Canada Bug’). One clear mistake the author had was not having a mindset change and apparent poor financial planning. I would also expect the fortune they made in Dubai would keep them afloat but everything was squandered in just a few years? I had seen some PRs with meagre savings making it through so I wander why. The rest is history.
It took me and my wife a couple of years to conduct thorough research, trawling through forums, making multiple trips to Canada to assess before even deciding on applying for PR(under FSW program). Back in the early 2000s, PR application took years(ours took 4 years!) and we landed in 2008…still working out fine till today. Sure, a lot of hard work, perseverance and sleepless nights during the initial phase, but we anticipated these and we even lowered our expectations but we made it!
hello sir, i am 41 year old indian with diploma in mechanical engineering and having 18 years of work experience in the field of manufacturing and i am planning to migrate to canada applying for visa in my wife name who is a graduate and a software engineer with 8 years of work experience as testing engineer. what is the probabality of me getting the job and can i come to cannada first and bring my family later as i am planning to come as a dependent visa.what is the probabality of me getting the job.
please suggest. i am ready to work in odd jobs also .
If you are ready to work in odd jobs, then go ahead.
Thank you for your replay but i could not know wheather i can come first and bring my family as im on a dependent visa.
What do you mean by a dependent visa?
Hello Admin,
My family is all set to move to Canada, happily. Sad, after reading these comments my mind is been chiseled. I have 4 yr old and husband with h1 currently in US looking for opportunities. Canada bug was just a try for us at that time.
Being a full time nicely paid professional in india now, I wonder would moving to Canada be a good decision.
My question is: are we all supposed to fly at the same time to Canada as soon as we get the visas. or the main applicant can continue to get the PR done all alone.
Thanks.
No, he can fly alone and you can join him later. But the best course of action should be for him not to resign his job and to fly alone to explore the options in Canada. Our honest advice to professionals who have good jobs back home is not to take the risk. Frankly, it may not be worth it. Yes, people get bitten by the Canada bug because someone you know is already there, but the ground realities are very different.
Dear Admin,
I am 44 and working as an interpreter/translator for 14 years in a government organization . My wife is 34 and working as a senior relationship manager for 8 years at an reputable international bank. We live in Dubai .We have to kids (9 and 5). We are both bilingual (French and English) as we come from Tunisia. What chances are there for us if we decide to immigrate to Canada.
Well, it is good to have French language proficiency because Canada has English and French as official languages. So most jobs advertised by government and the public sector (even the private sector) want applicants to be bilingual.Your story is similar to the writer of this article. She also moved to Canada from Dubai. Why not stick to your jobs, make money and later send your children to Canada for college education? After their education, they can apply for permanent residence and then sponsor you. Secondly, the age is not on your side and you may to do odd jobs here. But you are ready to do anything, then it is okay. So calculate your risks because you may end up spending many years rebuilding your life and complaining.
The best reply to this article is on LinkedinIn. This guy has nailed it… I can never say it this well in a 100 years.
We don’t allow links in comments. You can post the whole article here independently.
This is an article on LinkedIn titled “6 Reasons Why Canada Is Not the Place for You”
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Reader discretion advised!
I am a new resident of Canada. A month after completing my two years here, a friend shared an article online that immediately grasped my attention. It was titled “Don’t Make the Mistake of Migrating to Canada, it’s a Fool’s Paradise.”
I would not attempt to speak to the validity of the resounding assertion in the latter phrase of the title, because I believe only the author should have the right to speak for herself. I would however say only this in response: I’m not sure if Canada is a fool’s paradise but it surely is a graveyard for the conceited narcissists who think they deserve the same kingly bounties they were bestowed upon in their past country of residence for no good reason. Still, I can only agree with the author that Canada is indeed not the place for you. But I intend to do more than that; I will attempt to enumerate the various reasons why Canada is not the place for you.
Before I start, let me make it clear that I do not mean to make light of the multitude of problems that the Canadian society grapples with, much like any other society in the world. In fact, despite being a newcomer, I make it a point to be an active member of the movements that aspire to make Canada a better place for its residents.
I read and reread the article a dozen times just to make sure I wasn’t missing any finer points made in the seemingly nonsensical piece. And trust me when I say this – it came across as equally nonsensical, if not more, every time I read it. But reading it a number of times did help me get a better perspective, not of the topic discussed but of the likes of people who make that assertion. The last few times I read it, I read between the lines, pausing every so often in an attempt to understand the writer’s real personal disposition and her internal impetus to be so negative. The answer to that question was obvious in her choice of words. The disclaimer at the end of the article was particularly funny, “due to privacy concerns, the name of the author is changed.” You see, the beauty of being positive is you don’t have to hide your true identity.
1. It is a new reality and you don’t get it
Who in his sane mind would compare life in disparate regions of the world using the same measures? Hello! You are in a new country. Building your expectations based on your past experience, accomplishments and bestowals is a recipe for disaster when immigrating to any new country. Just like the CEO of a smalltime firm would be happy to accept a senior management role in a multi-billion dollar global enterprise in a first-world economy, a rational immigrant is satisfied with finding a job in his relevant profession without griping about the job title.
It is a new life after all, one in which you will have to go through the same struggle that most successful people before you went through. It’s a given; get over it! For those who arrived here with an open mind, willing to do whatever it takes to be successful, ended up achieving much more than they bargained for. It is the law of attraction at its best. As for your late realization about having to ‘work much below your professional rank’ – duh! May be you’ve been in stupor about your true professional rank all your life. Welcome to reality!
2. You are not flexible and you carry the burden of your obsolete notions about society
Settling in Canada or any new place in the world is like unscrambling your life. The key is to be flexible in every sense of the word – to unlearn and re-learn. In the last two years that I have been in Canada, I have rediscovered my true potential in more ways than one. I have been able to broaden the horizons of my professional and personal learning beyond my wildest imaginations. I do not have enough time to count my blessings, let alone whine about my failures. While we are at it, please educate yourself about the equal respect that people in Canada are afforded irrespective of whether they teach at a school or work at Tim Hortons. The article in question sounded almost derogatory to all the wonderful hardworking people who make the terrible Canadian winters something to look forward to for hundreds of thousands of new (and not so new) Canadians. So if you value people solely on the basis of the colour of their collar, Canada is not the place for you.
3. You are innately negative and you surround yourself with people like you
As for all the ‘warnings’ and advice the author received prior to embarking on her journey to failure-dom, consider my own example. In addition to the overwhelming encouragement and support I received from everyone I reached out to as a newcomer, I attribute my success to my stubbornly resolute desire to surround myself with only positive people. That has been the singular most impactful factor behind whatever personal and professional success I have achieved in a very short span of time. With that mindset in place, nature worked to bring me in front of positive people every time I would need help or encouragement. Like attracts like my friend and it works wonders when you surround yourself with positivity. But if it is in your very nature to tend to ignore the positives and being thankless for all you have, Canada is not quite the land of opportunities for you that it really is for thousands others.
It is a place for people with grit and resilience, people who value personal growth and achievement beyond bank balances as its sole measure, people who are not bystanders but an active member of their communities, people who share a relationship of respect with anyone and everyone they come across, people who cherish and celebrate not only diversity but social justice and inclusion, people who are smart risk-takers and have the priorities for themselves and their families all sorted out. Please accept my condolences if you do not fit into any of that. Once again, Canada is not the place for you.
4. You cannot own your decisions and do not have the courage to take the blame
Just like all major decisions in life, immigrating to a new country is a life-altering decision – one that is highly strategic in nature for yourself and your family. If you couldn’t pull it off despite taking the exact same decision that many immigrants took years before becoming first-generation millionaires in Canada, there has to be something fundamentally wrong with your approach. Successful Canadian immigrants never blame anyone for their failures – and yes they have had more than they can recount. Despite all the failures, they always focus on tailoring their strategy and readjusting their course, never losing sight of the goal. I always thought to myself, “even if one out of the millions of people who came to this country could be successful, so can I.” And of course there are more than a handful of examples of successful immigrants in Canada. So let’s admit it – you had the same chance and you blew it. As it stands now, you only have yourself to blame for not being able to materialize a future that many others coming from much less privileged backgrounds before you (and after you) did. The length of your list of people to blame will not change it in any way, because if your gut reaction to your failure is to look for people to blame, Canada is not the place for you.
5. You are the third kind
As a mentor for newcomers, I come across all kinds of people. There are three categories. First there are those who are true strategists and fighters – perennially optimistic and persevering in the wake of many early failures, determined to make their decision work for themselves and their families. They are the ones who know their goal and stop at nothing to achieve it. And guess what, without exception, they all do. Then there are those who left their luxurious lifestyles to immigrant to Canada with no clue as to what their motivation or objective was. They are the lost souls who can still make it because they have the attitude for it – positivity and grit.
And of course there are some like the author in question. They say they had everything anyone can hope to have in a lifetime – a perfect job, incredibly deluxe lifestyle, best education for children money can buy, and a bank balance they could live off without ever needing to work. Still, they say ‘a bug bit them’ and they decided to move to Canada for a reason they terribly fail to articulate in a 800-word write-up. Although I can write a separate 800-word article on the true motives behind that decision just reading between the lines as I did, I’ll save that for another time. This type has no idea what brought them to a whole new place and much less idea of how to let go of their ego and start a real struggle. If you have no clear goal for a major life decision, if you are not comfortable taking up the challenge of making it in one of the most competitive countries in the world, and if your ego is dearer to you than the dream of making Canada home for your children, alas; Canada is not the place for you.
Did I mention that the friend who shared the article was one of the third kind? He went back to his ‘home country’ after his first setback. While he was in Canada for less than a year, he was in a ‘visitor mindset’ and considered his place of birth his only home. If your definition of immigration is visiting a place outside of your home country rather than changing your home, Canada is not the place for you.
6. You are afraid of stepping out of your comfort zone
I have met people who have been in Canada for more than double the time I’ve been here and they have never attended one professional networking event, they haven’t heard the name of a single government-funded program that provides free services to immigrants, they have never written to another successful immigrant asking for guidance and advice, they don’t even have an updated LinkedIn profile and they still call their resume, a CV.
These people have seldom had a conversation with a person outside of their immediate community. Granted they had the taste of real success in their countries of birth or at other places, they experienced opulence and rubbed shoulders with their likes (aka people at senior professional ranks), still what they do not know is this: just like an accomplished sprint athlete would have to struggle to put his foot down on the floor once he is in zero-gravity, an immigrant has to reassess his strengths and accomplishments in relation to his new reality. It warrants going out of your comfort zone and doing things you never thought you needed to. You are bound to fail in your first attempts. Get done with all your failures as soon as you can and start enjoying the trade-offs that formed the core rationale of your decision to immigrate.
The ‘guy’ who wrote the article on ‘linkedin’ is employed by CIBC. Big corporations/banks like CIBC depend on Immigration for their survival (they share 250,000 new customers every year). New Immigrants bring a minimum of US$ 7.5 Billion per year to Canada. The money Trail is as follows: CIC -> Air Canada -> Banks (see?) -> Houses/Rent -> Telephone/Utilities -> Cars/Transport -> Look for jobs -> Re-study (also a big business) -> Do menial jobs (slaves) or go back.
At the end the it has cost the person/family close to US$30,000 – So it is Economic Tourism.
The ‘writer’ was doing ‘damage control’ in typical Canadian style – using ‘experts’ to discredit the expose`.
Google ‘Canada Bank Bailout’ and see how much money the banks got… while you at it Google ‘Canada banks and Enron’ too…
Yes, he ‘wrote’ it very well – very well indeed…
Hi Komalpreet. Please check what i typed and comment. Thanks 🙂
Hello Admin,
I am 38 years old, my wife is 36, daughter 11 and son 4 years old.
My plan is to immigrate to Canada under Federal Skilled Worker program.
I hold a MBA Degree (finance), self employed for last 12 and more years, the business that I do along with my father is well established and i earn sufficient money to live a decent life (money wise though) here.
But I am not happy here in India, as the work that I do has become so boring for me from last few years. I don’t like running for money all the time and want to lead a life with some interesting thing like running my own personalized coffee cum book shop or a restaurant, or even run a children daycare centre etc., where i could meet different people and see smile on their faces, find peace and satisfaction at the end of the day. So i decided to move some other better city in India and thus explored a couple of other cities which I thought would suit to my requirements. My present city was not bad at all as I remember from my childhood, but different illiterate state governments over a period of last 15-18 years had turned this place into a shit hole. Traffic jams, worst road conditions with dusts, dusts and dusts and potholes, crime, corruption at its best, electricity failure, government officers and police literary harass you, sex discrimination, dowry, believe me if someone ever visit a hospital for some treatment these doctors over there will suck his blood out of his body, the list is not going to end and still we fool ourselves over false arrogance – My India is great. So you can now understand why I want to leave.
Anyway, I rather got disappointed to find that there is advancement in quality of life if I move to another city but I will have to start again from zero to setup a new business and will have to live more or less in similar environment.
Now I have decided to move from this place where life is a joke and start over in a decent country say Canada or Australia.
BUT after going through all these comments above I am feeling quite depressed and seems like nowhere to go – no country for old men.
I don’t mind working hard, want to have some personal time for my family and friends.
I will really appreciate if you could write something about my concerns and give some idea about my how much backup money is required to survive in Canada. What’s the chances for me to establish my own venture in Canada?
Thanks a lot!
Suggestions from other readers are welcome.
A couple of things for you. First, everybody gets bored with routine, it doesn’t matter whether you are in India or Canada. That should NOT be the reason for you to move out. You need to just sit back and appreciate what you have, rather what you don’t have. Lots of people take such important decisions in their life in that state of mind when they are feeling agitated. Which is not good. So think hard before taking any decision because restarting life is not always easy. Now, if you decide to move out to Canada or Australia, the right age is what you are now. If you migrate after the age of 40, then it will be difficult for you. In fact, people should think hard about migrating once they cross 35. As for you choice of running a coffee-cum-bookshop or a daycare, that won’t be a problem if you have the money. For opening a daycare, you will probably need licence and certification.So don’t feel depressed…just sit back and take a decision only after seriously thinking over the whole thing.
Moderator, thanks buddy for your valuable advice.
…can u give me some idea about how much money would I need to start and run a daycare centre. If possible please give me some idea about expenses in detail (breakup of total expense) on my email or whatever you find convenient.
We have to confirm the expenses from people who are running day-care centres. So you have to just wait. But broadly, you will need certification and then the place from where you will run the day-care centre. They will inspect the place to see whether it is fit and safe for the kids (no traffic near by, etc.). Then there will be requirements of equipment, kitchen and any assistant/s you may have to hire.
Hey Guys. Im a 32 Year old Married Male living in India. I work for an MNC and am the Regional Manager for West India. I have a Masters Degree in Construction Management from USA (Lived for 2 1/2 years). My wife has Bachelors Degree in Hotel Management & MBA in Marketing from India. We are thinking of moving to Canada for the following reasons:
1. Better lifestyle (calm and peace)
2. Developed Country so facilities are up to the mark
3. Make some decent money and start something own
4. May be study at the same time to upgrade our qualifications
Reasons I want to emigrate from India:
1. Pollution in Mumbai is horrible
2. People are selfish and self centered
3. Lower quality of living. You get sub zero standards from Govt even after paying heavy taxes
4. Pathetic roads and drives !
I feel I am fair with my reasoning and expect a reply pertaining to the MY QUERY ALONE. I do not want replies from users who have OBJECTION to what I typed above as this is my personal opinion.
I see people using this blog as debate section and I do not want it to be one. I’d rather expect a detailed STICK-TO-THE-POINT reply from patrons.
So guys, please let me know if it is a wise decision to move to Canada in the year 2015-16. If yes, I want to know if Work-Study Visa is good for both of us (or) shall we opt for PR directly.
My Target Job Profile: Engineering Company
My Wife Target Job Profile: Hospitality
Cheers & Keep Walking..!
I am a masters in biomedical science from UK but worked for the last five to six years in hotel industry. I am interested in firstly working in the hotel industry , later setting up a small kirana grocery store for indian foods? Any ideas suggestions ?
Regards
Raju parihar
My name is Komalpreet, I have landed in Canada not too long ago myself, since then i have helped many to move to Canada and find a job (may not be a dream job as yet but surely you earn your living here). If you do need assistance in moving to Canada, I can gladly help.
Komalpreet
Hi Komalpreet,
I have posted my case on this page on May 2nd. Please go through it and share your valuable advice/suggestions.
Thanks!
Komalpreet ji thanks!
I am an Electrical/Electronic Engineer with 11 yrs of experience in Solar, Electronic & Automotive Industry.
I am looking for a job in Canada if you can help.
vineet Kapoor
Dear Nisar,
Well, we did’nt ask your suggestions… so please!!!
Leaving his/her own country permanently is a mistake people do. I have a principle stand that I shall not migrate to any haven leaving my home in my own country.
Dear Nasir,
Thats an opinion, not a fact. so please don’t present it as such.
Dear Moderator – Pl reply as I am waiting for your comments /suggestions.
regards
Aradh, if you have not lived in Canada for two years out of the 5 years after getting your PR, technically you lose your PR even if you now arrive in Canada. But you can appeal through an immigration lawyer. Now, we don’t know how much time you have spent in Canada.
Aradh, the suggestion to you is that you shouldn’t waste your time or resources on this thing any more. You have already been here twice and you know the reality. So, it is not worth it, though the grass will always look greener on the other side. If you are doing okay there, that is all the more reason for you not to unsettle your life one more time. Don’t believe in other people’s stories.
Dear Salman
Thank you for sharing all this. Hats off to all of you.
Thank you. I had a lot behind this encouragement. I am thankful I was not born and raised here. I pity the people born and raised here. The main reason was the way the Canadian government dealt with my mom who is a doctor.
They deliberately find excuses to not give people work. My mother is Cambridge postgraduate doctor. They said her basic medical degree is from Bangladesh and therefore she cant be recognized as a doctor. They told her to redo entire 9 yrs of medicine. She gave exams and she scored 100% in 5 out of 9 subjects not having seriously read for 20+ yrs. Me and my sister were amazed as we are unable to score such perfect marks till to date. There was no response back and she ended getting a job in a subway restaurant where they taught her how to cut a bread when she was a surgeon for 25 yrs!!! Believe me, corruption, nepotism, racism here is rampant and very subtle.
I didn’t get a job because my name not a cool English name and I refuse to change it. I will never forgive the Canadian govt.
But one thing i will say is having a canadian degree and passport has changed my life. So definitely worth it for you kids.
Hi Aradh,
he might have regretted it before but now we have spread out over the world for our work. its for the best and we dont plan to come back to canada. i travel and work internationally and am living the life. i studied in canada and USA much more high end stuff…couldnt find a job even in canada except security or cashier….so frustrating and disgusting
Hi Salman
Encouraging words, thank you very much. Both of you done a great job.
Great , Thank you
Dear Admin
Pl reply to my query as I am waiting since 3rd March.
Dear Aradh, we will get an immigration expert to answer your query this week. Just wait.
Read most of the comments and they really match what people who migrated in Canada say: “Working on odd jobs” (with a skilled worker visa)
So my question is that how good are the odd jobs. My basic qualification is B.Sc. computer science and 6+ yrs job experience in networking (Internet provision/Telecom). My age is 31yrs.
In my home country India, I have trained myself on multiple other skills not related to my qualifications for example if I have the right tools, I can do gardening, plumbing, hairdressing, auto-repairs, electronics/circuits, automation, IT infrastructure, Computer/laptop repairs, software assistance or anything that the job demands. My question is, if I’m on a skilled visa and if I start working on such kind of jobs, can I make some good money out of it or pursue it as a career? What will hold a higher value- my job experience in telecom or these other skills? Also, can I be a freelance consultant in any or many of these other skills along with a skilled office job?
Nikhil, if you ready for odd jobs, then you will be fine. You can start your own hairdressing and make good money. Professions like plumbing and gardening are pay well.
Hi Aradh,
I think it is possible to renew it but not reapply for it. We immigrated as a family in 2004. now this is a while back and i dont know the exact law now. my father went back to Bangladesh. his PR expired. he was not allowed to extend it and this is something which is almost impossible to do. we spoke to many lawyers and no one could do anything. They said the only possible way is on a very rare exceptional basis….maybe review by PM or something of that rarity. As a result he lost his immigration and he would have to reapply all over the process again and chances of successful reapplication is slim. However,do land before it expires and extend it. Again i cant quote the present situation but this was in 2009. My father has not come to canada since.
Dear Salman,
Thanks for your valuable comments.Does your father regret his decision of coming back as I am feeling since day one? What is your personal opinion on this decision, was it right?
With reference to above query, I am requesting everybody to spare some time to go thru above lines & give their valuable inputs as i am unable to find it anywhere else. With regards & thanks
Dear Admin
I had recd PR for myself, wife & my kid in 2010. We went to CANADA two times but didn’t stay there more than 2 months. Our PR will expire in Oct this year (only six months left). Due to some unavoidable reasons I am thinking to move again before I lost this opportunity.Pl advice ,should we go now & would we be able to regain our PR status if we enter in CANADA before expiring the PR or we have to apply for extension of PR after expiry date which may or may not be granted to us. The above is applicable in Australia as PR holders can enter even on the last day of their PR expiry date & regain their PR status. They have to stay there for next two years for further visa extension to travel abroad & return back to Australia.Your reply would be a great help. Thanks in advance
Hi, I am Nortel/Avaya telecom engineer- Do I have any scope in these field in Canada?
Sreejth, it depends on your age.
I am of 29 and almost 5 years in the filed.
Sreejith, the age is on your side and you can try. But be careful if you are currently doing well because there are tons of qualified immigrant engineers and doctors who are doing odd jobs in this country. The grass always always looks greener on the other side. But one thing is sure that you will have to upgrade your skills if you come here.
Thank you
Dear Admin
Still awaiting your reply!
Appreciate the great job in guiding, I am 41 yr old married with a 14 yr old kid, working in an Indian public sector company as Manger(IT). My preliminary skill SAP BASIS administration and project management. My basic qualification is Mechanical Engineering. Wife is qualified but no working experience. We are planning make use of the new entry scheme, Do we have scope over there??? Please give advice
Ramesh, many people with SAP skills are doing well in Canada. Why not you. But remember it will be a new beginning which will come with a lot of initial struggle and pain. Be ready for that.
Dear admin
I am 29 year,graduate from Bangalore university (BBM)I HAVE 6YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD.OF SALES AND MARKETING HOTEL/CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IN DUBAI. I AM PLANNING TO MIGRATE TO CANNADA KINDLY GIVE ME YOUR VALUABLE ADVICE ON MY PROFILE FOR My BETTER CAREER PROSPECTS.
We don’t know much about the hotel and construction industry, but if you are ready for sales/marketing for any sector, we think you have much better scope.
Hi Noor,
The hotel industry is great in the west coast in vancovuer. tourists are always flocking from asia and vancouver is the gateway to canada. For construction, your husband will have to upgrade to canadian diploma. foriegn experience is not counted. many engineers with masters still have to do construction and project management diploma. the good thing is many punjabis have local construction businesses here and so you can fit well with networking.
Hi I am an IT Professional (managing IT operations for international BPO and not a programmer) with 15 years experience and aged 40. My wife is a HR professional with 12 years experience. we work in Mumbai ,India and wants to look migrate to Canada. what are the job prospects. we earn substantially here but are frustrated with the quality of life in India. No kids and hence are willing to thing to move to canada.
Sameer, IT and HR sectors have job opportunities. BUt be ready for initial struggles.
Hi ,my self MBAMarketing/Finance)with 8 yrs Exp in Automotive Sales & MArketing and am 2 yr old,My wife is a optometrist and we both are working in Middle east .we are plannig to migarte canada so kindly advice me the chnaces
Sorry there was some mistakes with my earlier question
‘Hi ,I Done MBA Marketing/Finance)with 8 yrs Exp in Automotive Sales & MArketing ,My wife is an optometrist and we both are working in Middle east .we are planning to migrate canada what are the chnaces of job we can get ,we are realy confused
Aneesh, you both can find jobs in your respective fields after going through the initial tough phase that every immigrant goes through. But it depends on your and patience.
What is the scenario in Vancouver for any finance based jobs? From what I have heard, there is not much scope except in Oil and Gas and Tourism. If one wants to pursue a career in say Financial Planning and Analysis, Can Vancouver be considered? It is a request to the moderator/admin to answer this query!!!
Toronto will be a much better place if you want to pursue a career in finance. Alberta is oil and gas industry.
Thank you very much for your valuable feedback. When it comes to Ontario, I have shortlisted a few colleges to study the one year financial planning course. They are as follows:
1. Connestoga
2. Fanshawe
3. Seneca
In terms of environment, job placements and curriculum, which out of these 3 are considered good. Also, if there is any other college(s) other than the above mentioned, please suggest. Thank you.
We guess it is Seneca.
Dear Admin/Moderator,
may I request you to kindly justify why Seneca? I found t
Dear Admin/Moderator,
I personally found the course curriculum of connestoga better bcoz it is an all-rounder course i.e. it covers every aspect of business be it finance, economics, ethics, maths and law. I would request you to kindly suggest why Seneca and why not Connestoga. Thank you very much for your prompt relies!!
All these institutions are great. Since we were asked about the preference, we just gave the opinion because Seneca is more known in the GTA. Frankly, there is little to differentiate between these institutions.
Hi Espire,
I live in vancouver for 13 yrs. yes it is not an economic hub but a tourist place. there is scope in financial planning but you will almost certainly be out of luck. all major business is with HK, korea and china. There are tons of chinese ppl here in these sectors and they control the market. plus you need fluency in cantonese or mandarin
Hello Admin/Moderator. Kindly go through the mentioned profile and give your valuable feedback
My name is Divya. I will turn 24 this June. I have done my BBA + MBA (Finance and HR) from a reputed university in India. I am currently employed with a reputed MNC selling white goods. I am working in the Accounts Payables section as an executive. I have 1.5 years of corporate experience. I am planning to do a Post- Graduate Diploma in the field of financial planning. I am looking towards colleges in Ontario region. Before I reveal the options that I am considering, please tell me the current job scenario in Ontario for Finance based jobs.
Thank you very much in advance and God Bless you. 🙂
The scenario for finance-based jobs is not bad.
What is the scenario in Vancouver for any finance based jobs? From what I have heard, there is not much scope except in Oil and Gas and Tourism. If one wants to pursue a career in say Financial Planning and Analysis, Can Vancouver be considered?
Hi All,
I am 30 years old and working as an Assistant Manager in an MNC in India, earning a good salary. I am an MBA (finance) B.tech from reputed Institutes of India.I am married and no kids yet. I have applied for canadian PR and it is in the final stages of processing. After reading the comments of this article I am afraid of immigrating to Canada by resigning my good job and salary and all my family here. Please suggest is it a good Idea or not?
Thanks,
Santosh
If you have a good job and good life, then why leave. If you still want to give it a shot, please don’t leave your job before coming here.
Hi Admin,
I am 29 and my partner is 28 living in Singapore. My partner works in a manufacturing company as a Senior engineer with only 5 years of experience. He does not have a high education and only a diploma in Engineering. We both are looking to start a life in Canada. We want to build a family and looking to improve our quality of life.
Working in Singapore sound just as tough as building a career in Canada. Pay is low and the standard of living is very very high. Houses (a apartment) here cost almost half a million dollars, you have to work till you die, government barely helps you in anything and you live from pay check to pay check. We are seeking a better life for our future, not looking to be rich but to live modestly and have a good retirement. Currently we have no debts and no children.
After reading most of the comments here, I believe my partner would need to start from scratch and earn his Canadian qualifications. Do you think it’s possible for him and I to work odd jobs and pay for his education at the same time? I know the struggle is real, where do you think it’s best for us to start and how much money should we set aside.
Would love to hear anyone’s opinion on this. Thank you!
Why not, Gibson. If you are ready to do odd jobs to pull through the initial phase of your life in Canada, you will succeed. Further, manufacturing is Canada’s mainstay. You guys have the right age.
I am 22 years old and recently graduated with an Accounting and Finance degree from a popular British University based in Dubai. My previous experience have mainly been in random sales job that I did during the summer vacation.
I intend to immigrate to Canada and hopefully get a job in the real estate industry.
What do you think is the best way to make the move?
Should I pursue an MBA in Canada and look for a job? Or get a job and do the MBA at the same time? Or is there a better a way to approach the situation.
In addition, I would really appreciate it if you could give me salary figures for real estate brokers/consultants in various areas.
Thank you for doing an amazing job here.
PS – I have lived in Dubai all my life and can’t imagine going back to the country I came from thus I want to move to either Canada or USA as these are the only two places that sort of “fit” my lifestyle. In addition, I have a few close friends and family friends there so I won’t be that “lonely or miserable”.
Aisha,
You are young and the best course for you is to first get immigration. Once you are here, it depends on your finances. Yes, you do a job and MBA simultaneously. For real estate, you will have to do a course and then join some brokerage as a salesperson. As for real estate income, if you work hard you can earn any amount.
I am in travel industry (ticketing) for last 14 years and my wife is a qualified teacher in the Middle East. We have 2 kids, 10 and 8years. We are planning to immigrate to Canada and our immigration documents are in progress . Our age are 44 and 42 years. Having read above comments I request your honest opinion as to travel-related and teaching job scene in Canada
Bushan, we will try to get you feedback from people already in this field. One of our colleagues just last week attended a gathering of Canadian travel agents, tour operators and ticketing agents in Toronto. Just wait for some feedback. Quite a few people who came from the Middle East have their own travel agencies here. As for your wife’s profession, you have to read comments posted by people in this profession. In fact, the writer of this article herself came the Middle East after teaching there for almost two decades.Your wife will have to undertake skill upgradation courses here and then have patience. The only worry is your age. As we have mentioned that the right time to come here is before 40, possibly 35, because it takes a few years to rebuild your life here.
Dears,
I (34 years old) am working as System Engineer in Saudi Arabia, I am applying for immigration through a company called Change of Phase Consulting Group, though its costing me a lot. I have 4 dependant as under:
Wife age: 29 Years old
1st Son age: 8+ years
2nd Son age: 7+ years
3rd son age: 2+ years
I am getting a very handsome salary package here in Saudi Arabia, my aim is not to quit my job once we reached to Canada. I want to come back after 2 to 3 months after getting the PR and continue my job here in Saudi Arabia in order to support my family leaving my family over there in Canada. I’ll be visinting my family twice an year to keep my visit rotating. I have few questions as below:
– Once my family completed four years and get the Nationality, what will be my status, will I get too or do I need to complete my duration.
– How’s the life there for a family who’s husband is not there and all the kids are boys, what is the difficult ratio in sense?
I really need your kind advise in order to step further, what I am doing is it right or not.
Your suggestion are appreciated
Mr Ahmed, you have to complete four years in Canada individually to be eligible for Canadian citizenship even if your wife and three children get the nationality. As for the life for a family whose husband is not in Canada, there are so many here whose men are working in the Middle East.
Hello! Brother we also applied fr PR and our case is also the same and having same plans as brother Ahmed mentioned above. My husband will stay in dubai and continue with his job ,I shall move with my kids to Canada.
Firstly I would like to know how much money we want to live with monthly expenses ? (2 bedroom flat, bills for waterelectricity ,grocery)
Will
I wanted to know is it easy to manage alone with kids age 14,12, and 8 ?
I am a science graduate working as a kindergarten teacher here in Dubai, what is the criteria if one wants to start as a volentier in public school in Canada?
Do they allow to volunteer as an assistant teacher ?
Please if any one can answer to each of my questions , I shall be thankful .
.
Saba,
You can very well manage your household with $2,500 to $3,000 with the three children. We have to confirm whether they allow teaching volunteer work in teaching.
Hi Everyone…I’m planning to apply for canadian PR but in all the blogs and forum i see only negative things except few positive points. I’m 32 now with 8 year of wrk exp and lot of insecurity in mind to leave job and to do fresh start in Canada.How difficult in searching jobs in Supply chain having indian experience. What is the maximum risk, a person can face after reaching there…
hi..im 37 yrs old in the airline field and husband is 39 yrs in the hotel industry both in sales and marketing. We are considering to apply for canada immigration. How is the job market in these fields and are we above the age limit.
Hi Michelle,
It depends on what kind of job you are doing in the airline field. However, the aviation sector is very tough and there are very few high-end jobs in that sector. You husband can definitely make a career in sales and marketing, but it will take some time. Considering you age, you guys should be ready for any jobs, to begin with. Frankly, if you both are doing very well back home, you should be very careful.
Hi, I immigrated to Canada in 2006. It takes a bit of time and effort but you end up emerging as a winner. It’s all about how quickly you adapt to the new environment and your willingness to excel in whatever you do. Anyway, I am real estate salesperson specializing in toronto downtown core. The real estate laws are different here and the tenant or buyer don’t pay anything for real estate services. Cheers and good luck! I will be happy to help my fellow Indians. All the best!
Hi newsadmin
U really doing a great job guiding, please do help me too.iam 25 yr old married with a 2 yr old kid, , practising dentist in India. My husband is a homeopath as well as an accupuncturist. We r planing to migrate to Canada by the express entry program. Do we have scope over there??? Please giv advice
We will get back to you after getting some solid feedback from dentists about your prospects. Just wait.
Dentistry is one of the best paying professions in Canada. And you guys are very young. Just go ahead.
I am sure glad I am not in any company of some of these deep-rooted venneous and arrogant individuals who are ungreatful for life and opportunities that present themselves. Did anyone ever learn life is not fair?
A study published yesterday by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) found that “Canada performs exceptionally well in measures of well-being,” according to an online report. On a range of measures — housing, income, health and safety — Canada scored among the world’s best-performing countries. The study scored 36 nations, including 34 OECD members, Russia and Brazil. No overall ranking is reported.
The findings will surprise some, given our 7.2% national unemployment rate, 14.5% youth unemployment rate and economic growth projections that remain soft in the short term.
Here are seven highlights from the OECD report:
•Income: The average household earns US$28,194 each year after taxes. That’s more than US$5,000 above the OECD average. There is disparity at both ends of the earnings spectrum though, not surprisingly. The top 20% takes home US$55,718, while the bottom 20% earns US$10,526. We ranked seventh on household wealth and ninth on income.
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•Community: Canadians spend two minutes a day volunteering; that’s about half the OECD average. On the other hand, 64% said they’d helped a stranger in the last month. (The OECD average is 48%.) And 94% know someone they could count on if needed. We ranked seventh on support network.
Read more: Volunteering in retirement
•Housing: Nine in 10 Canadians are satisfied with their housing. The average home in this country provides 2.6 rooms per occupant, more than any other country. And 99.8% of Canadians live in a home with a private washroom that has an indoor, flushing toilet. (The OECD average is 97.8%.) We ranked 24th on the ratio of housing costs to income, eighth on basic facilities and first on number of rooms per person.
Read more: How much does it cost to own a home?
•Environment: We’re better than average on both air pollution and water quality measures. We ranked 14th on pollution and 12th on water quality.
Read more: Are you living green at work?
•Health: Our life expectancy at birth is 81, a full year above the OECD average. And 88% of Canadians say they are in good health. Health spending in this country makes up 11.4% of gross domestic product. (The OECD average is 9.5% of gross domestic product.) We ranked third in health and 17th in life expectancy.
Read more: The Canadian health-care system at your fingertips
•Safety: Just 1.3% of Canadians said they were assaulted over the one-year period leading up to the survey. That’s well below the OECD average of 4%. Our homicide rate is less impressive. It’s 1.6%, only marginally below the average rate of 2.2%. We ranked first on assault rate and 23rd on homicide rate.
Read more: Seven smart safety tips for women
•Work-life balance: Canadians work an average 1,702 hours per year. That’s 74 hours below the OECD average. When asked if they work more than 50 hours a week, 4% said yes. (The OECD average is 9%.) We ranked ninth on working long hours.
Read more: Five secrets to finding a better work-life balance
The full index is made up of 11 categories. Canada ranked 27th on job security, fourth on student skills, fourth on government transparency and eighth on life satisfaction
‘Sir there are lies, damned lies and statistics’ so said ‘Disraeli’ and made popular by ‘Mark Twain’.
The original author says just that, if you read the ‘reports/statistics’ and come to Canada you are doomed! The ground zero situation is very different to the ‘ratings’. I personally believe that rating companies are ‘coerced’ and it is ‘false advertising’. And like another commenter says, I have met doctors who can’t write a sentence in English!
The average salary is high because a SELECT FEW earn over $120,000 per year while a majority earns a sub $36,000 salary. That is the real situation in Canada.
Hard work is not a bad thing. if you are committed and hardworker, then succuss is there for sure, but most of the people of developing countries are lazy in doing there jobs. They like short cuts and easy jobs, no mental exercises. Therefore they found it difficult. The real people just need a fair and conducive environment. And Canada is providing that environment. I love Canada and Canadians and it’s my dream to be there.
Dear Admin,
Just an reminder .. i need an valuable advice from your side as i already mentioned that i’ve to take an important decision after hearing advice from you/others…
Pradeep, we spoke to a couple of senior mechanical engineers from India (IIT trained) who are with oil and hydro (power) companies, and they say that both oil and power companies in Canada are in doldrums at this time. Further fall in oil prices will scuttle projects of oil companies in Alberta and thus reduce most engineering jobs. The same goes for power plants. Thermal plants are to be replaced by nuclear plants, but it is very uncertain many years it will take to start this process. Moreover, they say, you will have to update your qualifications.But if you ready to do anything and wait for your chance in your field, then go ahead.
Thank you for your opinion, it is an eye opener for the highly skilled professionals. Also many of the comments made me realize how xenophobic some Canadians can be. I’d rather stay around friends and family with a good job in my country than be surrounded by a group of twats that always will consider you second class citizen. Just because someone posted her experience, people did not hesitate to come out with the not-so-bright patronising comment: go back to your country… As if anyone owns a country. I am sure there are awesome Canadians, but if you are going to work in lower jobs, you will be surrounded by the phobics ones.
Hi Newsadmin
Believe me you are really doing a good job by helping people to take their decisions.
In your reply to Karthik G you said that Canada is a very good place for any family or person but in my case the reply was that it is not good in terms of family & social life.
I am confused seeing these two different statements.
Hope you will not mind it, we are having a tough time and still in between Yes & No.
Thanks
Lakhtey Zaidi
In our reply to you post, we said: Quality of life is much better here in terms of daily hassles, but not in terms of social and family life what you have in India. Now here is the clarification: By family/social life, we mean your large circle of friends/social acquaintances. Yes, if you land a job, Canada is a good place for any family/person, but in terms of social life you won’t get what you have in India because here everybody is so busy. People from the same community gather at the weekends at religious places or at other places. Our blunt advice to you this: At your age, if you are well settled, please take decision carefully. Grass always looks greener on other side. We known so many friends who have moved back to Delhi after failing to find proper jobs. If you still want to go ahead, don’t quit your job, take a long leave and then come here.
I spent 5 years in Canada and found out that if you want to just spend your life without goals but just need basic necessities without interruption, then go ahead and move there. Else stay where you are and count your blessings. Life is tough in Canada, extreme cold and more racism created not by locals but the immigrants (second-generation) who feel superior being born there and acquiring proper English accent.
Dear moderator,
Thanks for ur reply. I’d do more research and figure things out with God’s grace. God bless u.
Dear moderator,
I am 33 yrs old single lady who is planning to apply for PR. My educational background is education, but I have tried many different decent jobs from customer service to teaching. And I want to come to Canada for a new prospect in life, and I anticipate to start all over again. What advice can u give so my application would b easier? What certifications should I acquire if I’ll try teaching
You have to spell out in detail your teaching background and then we and other readers can give you the suggestions.
Come to America…
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Great article. Thank-you for telling the truth. Let me return the favour. I am a white Canadian male from Ontario. I grew up in Canada and was educated there. I left in 2007 due to lack of opportunities. My brother, who is exceptionally well educated stayed behind and is doing a job far beneath him. I returned home last year with a fantastic resume and a ton of dynamic international/Canadian experience. I worked overseas at the managerial level supervising Canadian staff (not that something like that should matter). The only calls I received upon returning home were from sad con artists and clueless job recruiters. Months passed by and I watched my hard earned savings dwindle. At one point an employee from Service Canada told me to apply for OW (welfare). Imagine that, an able bodied Canadian educated man in his 30s taking hand-outs. Not a chance. I quickly saw the truth. The loss of manufacturing, outsourcing, constant immigration and the temporary foreign worker program had flooded the market. I finally got a job through one of my old bosses working in the social services sector. The job was not permanent and did not pay well. I found people from all walks of life and professions trapped there. Many of them were hostile and unhappy. My fellow Canadians being the worst. It is a sad story but not an uncommon one. If you go to any mall or the new outlet shopping centers in Ontario you will see young, intelligent, well educated Canadians working retail. I get it. The market is what it is. No one owes you a job. That said, I do think more of my fellow citizens need to be more honest with you and themselves. It is awfully hard to address a problem if we do not acknowledge it. Most of us get angry or make excuses upon hearing this. You hear typical questions related to your profession or lack of “Canadian experience.” The stupider people tell some to “go home” or work harder while they surf the internet or hide behind a union. Unfortunately, most of us do not get to travel much due to the high cost of living. When we do, we go to Florida, Mexico, or somewhere warm. We generally return from these places feeling relaxed and happy we live in “the best country in the world.” Therefore, most of us are unaware of the rapid changes and advancements taking place internationally. We are also unaware of the fact that Canada is rarely in the news and in fact a minor player on the world stage. The local media and educational system maintain a steady stream of propaganda promoting Canada as the best nation on earth. Advertisers further exploit this theme and help to sell ideas like “Canadians are too friendly (funny)” or well received with Canadian flags attached to their back packs. The words Canada and Canadian are repeated ad nauseam on television and the radio everyday. This formula is then blended with some anti-Americanism and comparisons. The outcome is a kind of distorted self-perception about where the country features on the international stage. Few feel that they can learn something from foreigners, particularly those from “third world countries” and enjoy the narrative of the poor humble immigrant coming to Canada for a better life. Multiculturalism is preached but poorly understood. Assimilation is the norm with few people learning about their neighbours origins. Surprisingly, almost no one picks up a foreign language. Probably because companies do not value employees who speak languages other than English or French. This of course is a mistake, particularly in an era where Asia is becoming economically dominant. Most people appear to be somewhat unaware of this fact and more concerned with hockey and other domestic matters. Despite everything I have said, my advice is not to write off Canada or anywhere else for that matter. Acknowledge it for what it is and play along with the charade as long as it is beneficial. Establish different bases in different locations. Many of you come from means or have made money elsewhere. So buy a property in Toronto when interest rates go up the market finally crashes in a year or two. Get PR if it suits you. Buy a property back home or somewhere in the States where things have bottomed out. Spread out and do not sever ties. Do not land in Pearson international airport (in Toronto) thinking that you are going to make it work no matter what. Be flexible. It might work out or it could be a bust. Don’t deplete your savings! Ignore people who say things like “they are tired of people coming to the country to take,” etc. Everyone takes. No one seems to be tired of taking your money there….do they? It is a great country with a lot going for it but you have to make it work for you. Fantastic schools and good health care. If you have lived in some of the places I have you also know that it is safe and over policed. Even if you only live in Canada part of the year or send your children to university there, it is nice to have options. Good honest people deserve a chance to build a better life for themselves and not be deceived by anyone.
I totally agree with this article.it is 100 percent true,good job.
Dear all,
I have done my M.Sc.Ph.D. in Analytical chemistry (2000) and having 13 years of teaching experience at higher education level in Indian college and Libyan University. I taught various interdisciplinary subjects. Even I have experience of handling various responsibility in organization of programs in the college. I have 14 research publications. My age is 43 years.
Is it still time to come to Canada? May I get any college/ University lecturer/ asst. professor jobs in chemistry?
Now this profession is included in the demand list of Canadian immigration.
Kindly Advice me, because some consultants are asking me to start immigration process.
I would be very and thankful for your valuable advice….
There are not many research/teaching positions, if any, very hard to get in. I know couple individuals with international research publications/teaching experience didn’t get any job, luckily they found something equivalent in industrial jobs. Not sure why they have teaching in FSW category.
I am Dr.wadi from India and I am here in Canada on PR status from 2012. I hold a Doctorate in Public Policy from Osmania University in 1999 and Postdoctoral fellowship in Sustainable Development from Osmania University in 2004. I have more than 10 years of experience in teaching in public policy and rural development and I have also worked as an Assistant Professor at the University of Gondar, Ethiopia, Sweden and Elyria for postgraduate students. I have also published a book on Rural Development in May 2012. I have also got my credential assessment from ICAS, Guelph, Canada. They awarded earned Doctorate. Here Still I am working as a Machine Operator( General Labour).I am not discouraging you…best of luck
Its fools paradise for those who think they will become Ufsar as soon as they reached Canada. But its really heaven for those who believe in hard working, more study in canada, doing some extra courses to enhance their CV and over and all for those who don’t think ANY work as inferior.
Wow Newsadmin doing a great job.God bless you for this service.My husband is 40 and he has BSc, LLB graduate (rank holder} with MBA but ended up in managerial job for our sake, has 13 years of middle east experience with frozen food industry. Now he is planning to pursue his career in law industry and willing to take up LLM course. Can you please advise us is it a right place to move in and best universities for LLM course and ofcourse job opportunities for the same. Is it good to migrate and then study there or just right away apply to the university. We are aware of the fees structure for international students it’s more but his age is 40, so we don’t mind investing as it his interest. And during his studies will he get working hours for any basic jobs he finds there, if so how many hours? Me and our 5 year old kid won’t move along with him till he settles down there. Thanks a lot once again.
Deepa, your husband can get admission for his LLM. He can move to Toronto and get into York University which is very good. But there are hardly job opportunities after the course, and he will have to start his own practice. Which most desi lawyers do. Yes, he can find work somewhere during his studies or join some law firm as an assistant. You are making the right move by not going along with him till he settles down. But has he got his immigration to Canada?
Thanks for the immediate response,No Moderator we didn’t plan for immigration but will directly apply to the university and enter in student visa and extend later. Anyway we need to study there why wasting more time in migrating process we thought. Fee is high for international student it’s ok for us not as costly as other countries.Is it advisable to enter in student visa will he have any other problems other than high fees?
No, you won’t have any problems except high fees.
I moved to Canada & came back after 3 months; was doing well & was well settled in my home country but the long 8 years to immigrate to Canada made me eager to leave every thing & migrate to Canada my dream land :).
On reaching there I realized I needed good 4 to 5 years to settle down & till then I had to sacrifice in all aspects of life that included me & my family my children were @ the stage were they were growing up & needed my & my wife’s time which we could not spare for T LEAST 4 TO 5 YEARS.
So I concluded to come back as it was not the right time for my family for all the hard work & sacrifices we needed to survive.
To survive & reach our desired me & my wife had to work very hard; including the odd jobs & up gradation of our qualifications mentioned by the author.
So we came back; as according to our perspective we might have reached the quality of living we desired in 4 to 5 years in Canada but might have lost many things during the time.
Not worth it to move to Canada if youre doing well in your home countries, why destroy and risk your life and your families because of false dreams?
No… , this is the cry of a loser … i came to canada on a student permit in 2010 ..working for an MNC..now ..happy and content its a land of opportunities..yea you need to work hard and compete with the whites .. In the middle east life is easy ..you got no Arab to question your skills ,for immigrants .. simple advice .. if you work hard you can do good !
I lived in Dubai for 10 years before moving to Canada and I can tell you that Dubai is not a real place. Everything comes easily there. It is a place that makes people lazy and arrogant. We struggled when we moved to Canada and we are still struggling but I am sure Canada is better for the future of our kids. My husband and I were very successful in Dubai and were earning lots of money but this is because we were brought up the hard way in our own country. We moved because we wanted our children to live a real life and help them lead the right way to success.
For anyone considering a move to Canada:
I firmly believe that when Canada wants the new Immigrants it wants not them but their future generations so that it can shape them into them mould of the Canadian culture and society. Not to say that is it not a place for seasoned professional – if you are a one. Canada is a country, a place and a nation it is not a lottery where when one wins all of the problems suddenly have a solution and the life magically gets better.
I am a naturalized Canadian citizen of Pakistani origin, and have known many who have moved here from Middle East and have the same opinion as the author of this article. I am educated and I like most new Canadians have done my tour of a basement and a menial or starter jobs but it didn’t take me long to get to a place where now my family and I enjoy living standards perhaps better than most Canadians.
My observations is that most new immigrants from South East Asian origin at least for when they get here expect same life style as to what they had back in Middle East/Pakistan/India etc. Forgetting the fact that this is a new place, with a different rule set and most importantly an expectation of certain type of work and life ethics and at the least a decent level of understanding the language to where you can clearly understand the expectations and very clearly make your expectations understood.
Every one of us that has moved to Canada has done so with our free will. I know might be a tough pill to swallow but next time you think about how Canada has done you wrong, be sure to look for the the invitation letter you received from the Canadian Government requesting you to wind up your life and move here. There may be a return address on the back where you can send a mail to ask for your money back 🙂
Does Canada tell the would-be immigrants that you are needed for future generations?
No it doesn’t, that is my opinion.
Hi, after getting to read so much about the sad part of how immigrants suffer, do you think we should stay back in our home country and be the way we are.Can we take a plunge for good? Is it safe with a child of 4 years.Leaving good jobs and starting from scratch, will I be happy with the decisions are all the questions running in my mind.Please advise.
Hi, For HK, its a little different. i live in vancouver and most ppl are from HK. they have successful business and live here 4 months of the year enjoying this place in summer. in terms of jobs, you will be successful as their are many HK contacts here
Really a heart breaking story. But my friend, Hhw does self esteem relates to work? As a starter, you need to grow from zero. Living in Canada is a dream for many as well as mine. I was born in Kuwait and so was my father, I work almost 12 hours a day and yes this is a wealthy country but there is nothing called as home here. I would prefer a hardworking life in Canada than to be a lazy ass in the racist And crazy Arab world. As per your story, do u realize or just have forgotten the Arab treatment you use to get back in Dubai?
The author wrote a very nice article.
I left a professional job and moved to Canada during 2005. I also sold my property in Pakistan with the hope that I must have enough money in Canada to settle there.
Within three months, I got an impression that immigration to Canada was PROBABLY a MISTAKE.
Within next three months, I was SURE that it was a MISTAKE.
Within five years, I concluded that it was a BLUNDER!
After eight years of hardships, I managed to collect so much money to buy air tickets for my family members. I packed my stuff, left everything on the road and returned back to Pakistan.
I am now financially weaker as compared to 2005. Now, I cannot think of buying that property which I disposed of in the bid to settle in Canada once forever.
Remember:
Its 100% true that there is no racism in Canada, but it is equally true that your PhD from Oxford or Cambridge is useless if you will be competing with a native Canadian having a Diploma or even a Certificate.
The tears from eyes of highly qualified individuals never stop when they wash dishes in the restaurants of Canada.
Decide wisely..
As a Canadian I understand the struggle but it would be the same for a Canadian to migrate elsewhere also. Canadian citizens have a hard time getting by if not educated and the bar is set pretty high so it would be the same for people who immigrate. I know that the expectation for “upgrading” is a delusion and based on false promises. Our TFW policy is flawed and ineffective at best. With that being said, if wanting to migrate to Canada, research, resesrch, research! Make sure it is the right decision for you before coming here!!
Based on the aforementioned comments, I decided to go for Australia. Can you guys give me expert advice that whether the problems which migrants have to face in Canada, have to face the same in Australia.
Though question is bit deviated from the main topic, but your expert advice and experience will abet people (who are working day and night to make their offspring life better) to make right choice.
U mentioned ” self-esteem ” more than twice in ur depressing article which tells me simply that it is purely ur issue .. and not fair to share such negativity with others..
I would like to thank you all for your valuable inputs. I agree that struggle is there when one has to start from zero & may not be as successful as can be in his homeland. But above all other options like money, settlement, life security what really matters is the enviormental conditions which current generation is making & will leave to the generations to come.
For living everybody needs fresh air & clean drinking water, rest can be arranged, but are we really know that clean drinking ground water is becoming a dream for common man in India. There are water filters everywhere in india & this industry is booming @ 40-50% annually. Everybody is asking before drinking water : is it RO water? Whereas Canada has world’s major share of natural water,
Some people must have seen USA’s Ex Vice president Mr Al Gore’s movie “The inconvenient Truth” if not then must spare some time to view it. There is abundance of material available on the Internet regarding the world’s future climatic conditions. If we have personally ever noted regarding climatic changes we can easily understand that summers is increasing day by day & peak heat conditions are also shooting up.
Winters are becoming shorter & minimum temperature are also dropping to new lows. Here in India/Asia/Middle east these changes can be felt easily. We know that climatic conditions in Canada are very harsh. Winters with lowest temperatures almost halts the life for a long time.
If we further study regarding future climatic conditions of major cities of Canada, these are going to change drastically, summers will be more prone & lowest temperature will also change.More sunny days will be there. Roughly in year 2050 numerous changes will happen in Canada’s environment which will affect it’s economy in a positive way as openings will be more, working conditions will improve & economy will find its new trends.
What I want to say is, although we are living easy life in India or someone in Asia/Middle East, but it is going to be worse for sure for our kids.
In view of above, should someone move to Canada today. He/she may only survive there with no money at all in accounts, but does it really matters? if we can give a livable environment to our kids after 30-40 years which is our prime responsibility.
Hi can yu pls advice me as i already mentioned few points last few days before…
Hello Pradeep, please give us a little more time to answer the first of your six questions. Once the answer to the first comes to us, we will respond to all your six points by the middle of next week.
I am shukra from india. I just completed B.TECh in production engineering.Ijust wanted know if I completed MBA from Canada I will get job there or I will try for masters in Australia ??
We don’t know about Australia, but MBA + B. Tech is a nice combination that will help you land a job. Take a closer look at Australia also and then decide.
Just a note… i know people that live here in Toronto, Canada, who are going to Dubai to work (accountants) to earn enough to return here and buy a home.
To hear someone from there (Dubai) coming here is interesting.
I would suggest that if you are coming to Canada with a million Canadian dollars.. you will do pretty well as it’s an awesome headstart.
But $100,000 will not get you far if you’re starting from scratch here.
She came to Canada in April 2009 which was immediately after the fall of the construction industry in the Middle East. Which means their ME visa got cancelled and they opted not to go back to India. If they would have started their own small construction or even renovation business, I bet this article would not have been posted at least by this lady. The biggest mistake which newcomers are making is to just stick to Toronto. My friends, Canada extends beyond this one city as well. Here competition is tough being a service industry, life style is expensive and demands for skills is unique. You shouldn’t even be complaining about the endless hardships while you are making bad decisions without any research. Canada is not begging people to come down here. And for those like me who predict for this place to become a brown region very soon, you should do some research rather than making silly predictions like we use to do back home.
Everbody has to understand that if one has already put 20yrs of their life to reach where they r now, it is going to hurt for sure as one has to start from scratch. If u r able to kill ur ego, prepared to change profession, there is no reason why u can not be successful here. But, money is not everything. You have to consider ur social circle, living style, cultural values etc too.
Success and failure can happen to anyone, anywhere. There are no guarantees in life.
What Canada offers, is a unique blend of great opportunities, a challenging lifestyle, and peace of mind. The weather varies greatly from coast to coast. The cultural blend varies greatly from city to city, neighborhood to neighborhood. Jobs and business opportunities vary greatly from province to province, city to city. You may not get everything you want in any one place, but you are given the same opportunity that everyone else gets to find your best fit.
Having lived in the Middle East, South East Asia, and Canada, I can say without a doubt that they are pluses to every region, but the best balance comes from taking full advantage of everything Canada has to offer.
All you need to do is be realistic, temper your expectations, be willing to assimilate into a wonderful community, and you will find your calling. After all, when you look around you, you will see that you’re surrounded by people who are willing to brave challenging weather for half the year, just to carve a life for themselves and their families all around you.
That should tell you what being a Canadian is all about. Is it in you to become one?
Hi,I am 38 and my husband 36.I work for HR AND my husband in banking field.We have not yet made most of out of our career.Hence are looking for an option to get it better.Both hold bachelor degree from India.We have a 4.5 year old daughter.Do you suggest us to apply for PR?If we get lucky in getting one,if you can give your thoughts around these points.Thanks
Why not. Don’t delay because you are nearing 40.
Hi, Reading most of the comments of this forum & it’s gr8 to have the right replies which can help a lot people in taking their decisions. Thanks for the same.
I am 35/yrs (Life Insurance, started from ground level in sales now in Middle Management position with 10yrs experience in the same line/done BCOM , MBA – got the same equivalency certificate from WES also ) and planning for PR in Canada with my family including my Wife/35yrs (Teaching profession in India) and two kids 10yrs & 4yrs and my mother/60yrs.
As per the immigration points required , I am securing 73 points.
Planning for PR for better job prospects/ better life of ourselves/ Future Security/ Bright Children Future. And importantly ready to do anything initially which is required to settle my family forever with determination & confidence.
Presently in India, Life Insurance private sector is getting down yr by yr and there is ZERO future security for myself and teaching profession (for wife) private schools are also not very good pay masters.
Need your advise 1)that weather it is an ideal decision
2) Scope over there for me & my wife – as per our prev experiences & industry.
3) Some good family friends are also there to support/guide us initially.
4) Should search job before coming , if yes how?
Would appreciate your advise. thanks
1) You are just about the right age. Since you are willing to do anything, then go ahead and you will definitely get a break in your field by acquiring local life insurance qualifications. But be ready for all the pain and struggles. 2) As for your wife, entry into teaching will be difficult and take time if it happens. 3) Yes, your good family friends can help you, but only for a limited period. It happens here often enough. 4) Start your search for jobs only when you have your PR.
Hi Nesadmin
Thanks a ton for you valuable advice, I really appreciate, but we are completely confused, should go or not go, in fact we had two pushing factors, one the higher education of children(both daughters) which is expensive in Canada for the foreigners whereas it costs 1/3rd or 1/4th for the residents. Second factor was the quality in life. My sister who is well off in Edmonton saying that Just come and she will take care of everything, will support us(financially or otherwise) till the time we get settled on our jobs.
I know I am troubling you by asking the same question again but please help with some more words.
Thanks a lot
Zaidi L.H
Well, if your sister real means what she says, then think seriously about going ahead. We know people of your age who have come here (in Ajax, Pickering) and are now staying with their sisters. But here are three things we want to tell you. (1) You and your wife may never again get the kind of jobs you have right now.You will realise it only when you will go through it. So be ready for it and be ready to do anything (mostly retail jobs). (2) Yes, it costs foreign students three times, but most of them do part-time work and manage to raise money for their fees. etc. (3) Quality of life is much better here in terms of daily hassles, but not in terms of social and family life what you have in India. You get something, but you also lose something. If you have made up your mind to go ahead, you and your wife should not resign your jobs. Take long leave and then come here and explore all the possibilities. Hope it helps.
“To live a descent life.”
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Would like to know about CA nd CPA value in Canada of 45+ person….Thanks in advance.
Accounting is not a bad profession as it offers jobs and self-employment opportunities after updating your education here. But it could be a little risky at your age. We wonder why people should waste precious happy family years by struggling in a new country to rebuild their lives.
I came to Canada from Australia with work permit through the same company I was working in Australia. The company motivated me to come to Canada. But after my arrival, I realized this Canadian shitty situation within 6 months by my experiences and through friends in Canada. I was feeling like to go back to Australia. But rather than going back straight way, I thought to stay in the region for few years. So, I started looking for jobs in USA and got one. Then I have moved to USA. Canada is really a fool’s paradise. I am 100% agree with the author.
Hi Newsadmin
I am 43yrs old and working as an IT manager in a consulting firm in India, my wife also works in a govt sector, we have 2 kids(studying in 7th & 4th standard), we want to settle down in Canada just for the better life for our kids, I have my elder sister already living in Edmonton(Alberta) for 15Years and she is willing to extend every support to us. should we move at the age, please advise this will really help us to take decision.
A couple looking for help and advice.
Zaidi L.H
Mr Zaidi, your sister can definitely be of great help to you for some time. And Alberta is the best province to move into. But the only problem is your age. As we have mentioned, people who are over 35 and settled in jobs should think very very hard before migrating. Mind you, it won’t be easy and you should be ready for all the struggles of transition and pain.Your wife won’t get the kind of security that govt jobs provide in India. If you are solely interested in a better life for your kids, you can send them to Canada for higher education after school and it is so easy these days. Your kids will get permanent residence easily after their education and then sponsor you.
Clearly this article is written by a middle east fool. A lot of people who are booted out of the middle east because they cannot be citizens there (they are treated as second class) and don’t want to return to India (because they think they are above those in India) think they can come to Canada and do as well as they did in the middle east. Just because you were over paid, under worked, and didn’t have to pay tax, don’t think the rest of the world runs like that. The middle east survives on oil and once that runs out you will have your arses hauled out of there. They will have to go back to growing dates and feeding their camels. They think they can come to Canada and have a red carpet rolled out for them – well guess what!!! Nobody give a shit about you. You want a good life – then work for it, pay your tax like everyone else earn an honest days living, mow your lawn or shovel your snow and shut the fuck up about it. Canada is a great place – do you pay a lot in taxes – sure – but kids education up to grade 12 is free, healthcare is taken care of – you can own a business, a house and a cottage too. You dont have to break into a bank if you or a loved one is sick. Those in the system here stand a great chance of employment – upgrade your skills if you are educated from somewhere else and you are good to go. I drive on fabulous roads, eat at clean restaurants, enjoy summer with my family, am safe and know i will get help within minutes should the need arise, earn an honest living and have respect for the law and all those fighting to keep us safe. We dedicate a day to our soldiers both fallen and those who fought and are alive and give them the respect they deserve when they die. There is dignity of labour and you learn to respect everyone. Something you wont get in either in India or much less the middle east.
It is only Canadian born and native talk like “Ernest” above. The types and numbers of problems migrants face in Canada, it never happen to those similar type of migrants in Australia. Why? Because there are government’s discrepancy in Canada. Canadian government should not bring that many skilled migrants if they can’t make that many skill jobs for those skilled. Skill migrants are those people who are well educated and experienced from backhome. This is how they are considered skill migrants. A government can’t cheat people by bringing skill people in their country and make them involved in odd jobs. It is kind of fraud and ripping people off around the world. Yes, Canada is a beautiful country. It is beautiful because majority of the skilled migrants are involved in lower level jobs (being victims). If these people leave Canada, this country will be like a country in middle of Africa. The above person will not be able drive on fabulous roads, eat at clean restaurants, enjoy summer with family, bla bla bla.
Tareq, if you want to write an article of 500-600 words on these lines (that Canada should not bring skilled immigrants if they don’t have skilled jobs), we will be more than happy to run it. Thanks.
Sure, I will write an article on this topic as you suggested. Please let me know how will I send it to you.
Send it in word format (not an attachment) to [email protected].
Anybody who thinks Canada is going to give you paying, lucrative jobs think again… read the following two news items:
1) BoC governor tells jobless youth living in folks’ basements to work for free
2) Widespread cost reductions at Scotiabank, which include plans to cut 1,500 jobs, could be a sign of changes to come in Canada’s banking industry, several analysts suggest.
(both on yahoo.ca)
Don’t believe the ‘Canadian banks being safe’ – they got a massive, secretive, bailout in 2008 for $114BN (they call it asset-takeove, loans, etc – but the point is they got $114BN in 2008 because they DID HAVE A LIQUIDITY PROBLEM – I.e. Financial trouble)
Yup… Am jus waitin for your valuable advice…!!!
Hi,
I am 37 years old and wife 34 having 1 year old daughter. I am well settled here in India and i am Mechnical Engineer with MBA in Inernational business field having 13 years of experience in automotive filed. I am willing to move to Canada. please let me know your views and advices whether i will have good job opprtunity in Automotive or Mechanical field in Canada.
Main intent to move to Canada is to earn money and have good prospects for daughter.
thanks
Abhijit, three things in your case. If you are well settled, perhaps it is not wise to put your family through years of fresh struggle. We have seen well qualified people like you land here at your age, then struggle and finally give up. And we know many who have gone back to Delhi and other cities. The second point is that you want to earn money. We don’t know what to say here, it could be the other way about. But if you are very very lucky and straightway land a good job, you could make some money. Otherwise, you will have to go through the struggle route and it could take a few years. So don’t be gung-ho, but be realistic because when reality will hit you, it will hit you very hard.The third point is your daughter’s education. This is the argument of 99 percent people. It is good till school, but college/university education is pretty costly. Please weigh your options carefully to ensure that you don’t up losing your career, savings and a few valuable years of life. Another option could be send you daughter for college education here. She would be eligible to apply for PR and sponsor you. We don’t know how old your daughter is and whether you are willing to wait. But it will be the least painful option and you will have all the choices in the world.
Abhijit, I would say NO… some else also said this.. you will lose your daughter and possibily your wife… I am yet to meet a south Asian girl who did not rebel or speak ill of their parents. My daughter was educated in private convent until grade 10, even then I had problems with here… but being Roman Catholic and Convent background helped…. but not without challenges… when children realize that parents were right it is too late (here)… Also, you will NEVER be able to do anything in Automotice unless you re-qualify here and work as a *free* inter for some ‘garage’….
The whole problem in the western world as a whole is that they are so used to living beyond their means. They did this by occupying and exploiting most of the world which they now refer to as the Third World, somehow implying that they are the first world. This to a large extent is correct. However it is only so for the big multinationals and their lobbies who basically call the shots, and control the governments and also artificially overvalue their currencies, since they control all the financial institutions like the world bank IMF, etc. This is what I refer to as economic apartheid which has only benefited the Walmarts, Sears etc, and screwed the rest of the world, by exporting low-paid jobs to China and India making a select few very wealthy, and creating warehouse economies in the western world, including Canada, made in China and warehoused in Canada, lots of jobs for forklift operators, and sales girls selling all that cheap junk made cheap by virtue of this economic apartheid, artificially overvalued currencies. Politicians don’t give a damn about people or jobs. The lobbies basically call the shots, be it the arms lobbies or multinationals, in the name of free trade. Working people are screwed. If any political party has the balls, they need to say to hell with WTO and free trade. All goods made in countries whose currency values a lower than western currencies should be taxed to make them as costly as goods made in Canada, and the long term solution is to have a gold-based currency which would have equal value on the lines of the euro.
Hey Guys..
Now am planning to immigrate Canada, to be a frank its a dream to be settle there in Canada and now applying for PR. Plz suggest me about Canada, job opportunity there? Which city?
I know, it could be a toughest moment for anyone willing to relocate to CANADA as I’m being one of them. Am very much appreciated if you might want to provide some assistance on following queries as it may play a crucial step in my life to decide whether to go to Canada or any other country according to my profile suits .
1) I’m a graduate in Mechanical engineering having 5+ yrs of experience in Power Sector as Quality Control Engineer (Welding in Pipelines, Inspection etc,), and my category would fall under 2132 occupation code of FSW program, so are there enough opportunities in the same skills mentioned above? What could be toughest situation in finding a job in same profession (Please provide references in the area of Oil and gas or Power Sector only)
2) Well the other fact is that, I’m ready to work in any non-skilled job as long as it paying more when compared with earning in India. So therefore, is it the admirable truth that even I choose a job which is out of my profession, my earnings would be more or same as like in professional job?
Please clarify the same.
3) I could hear some moron comments from other people, which are underpinned as well that, we should or must upgrade our skill set to compete with other migrants or Canadians to get through the job. So the query arise is, what so ever the fact is, why would the government grant PR’s to such skilled persons where they don’t have sufficient sources to accommodate? It could be the trap or deceive the situation.
4) Currently I’m at a position of finding consultancy in India who can extend the support on PR processing, Because right now am working in Malaysia. and i should know the exact stuff’s before choosing the right path
5) Also, let me know , will i land with job ??? or you ppl will assist me to find the job once i landed in Canada or any, please pass on the inputs.
6) And most important one, expenses. How much cost will it take to immigrate to Canada??
Could you please address the above all
Any references in this regard, will be a more of help. Kindly assist me to decide further as I don’t want to ruin my life by dreaming the facts which are actually doesn’t exist at all.
Thanks all in Advance.
Hoping to hear from you soonest.
Anybody has any suggestions for Pradeep? Let us wait for others before we comment on your six points.
If you’re dreaming of landing job in Canada, you must read yesterday’s report which says that 200,000 new fresh graduates are looking for jobs. And even more fresh graduates will soon join them in the job market. Not a nice job scene for graduates and professional people. In fact, Bank of Canada chief made big news yesterday when he said unemployed people shud work free so that their CV becomes better. This is shocking to tell unemployed young people to work free.
Go to Australia or New Zealand!!
There they will ask you to go through qualifying exams first, then get a job – a more sincere approach for these countries that want to benefit you and themselves.
But Canada makes you come with your kids and money and expertise, and then you end up losing all three of them.
Increasing the duration before you get Canadian citizenship to four years?? And much more tedius and slow process with more strict regulations is another example of Canada’s not so genuine decisions, for a country that thrives on immigrants, kids and their money.
If you don’t like it, leave? This is exactly what I am planning to do as soon as I finish my Australian exams. You think Canada is the second biggest country? Measure it without its freezing areas and then tell me how big it is.
By the way, Australia is a continent, if they didn’t teach you that in school.
Medical insurance? Oh please give me a break! They are so inefficient. It seems the doctors in Canada are the ones who weren’t clever enough to find a job in the UK or the USA, and had to come to this freezing paradise. I personally and half a dozen of my friends clearly found their standard of efficiency (Two of them are literally handicapped after malpractice operations by doctors).
Let us meet in 2020 when all the immigrants realize the scheme and stop pumping their kids and their money into Canada and see what this snow white paradise and its economy will be like.
Hi Neger,
A friend of mine who was the GM in a multi-national bank migrated to Canada in 2001/2002 with his IT qualifications (remember the Y2K bug). He worked for a rent-a-car outlet (he never got a Y2K job he was hoping for – I believe) for a few years and then (around 2006) got a job in a bank generating computer printouts. He was laid off a few years later and was on EI. Due to EI regulations he was ‘required’ to take a job (clerical) job elsewhere (which by what I see he does not like) (If I am not mistaken current EI laws can ‘force’ to you take ANY job)… he had to sell his nice house, etc… His wife who is from a respectable (up class) family and studied in a private school is a ‘cook/helper’ in a kitchen…
Hi, me and my husband have taken the decision to migrate to Canada. ..but after reading this article I am confused that whether it will be a good decision or not. I am a lecturer in a university in marketing .My husband is doing great in our country. He is an associate manager in a multinational bank.. we have a daughter and she is 11 months old. I am 27 and my husband is 28. Thats the scenerio. Can anyone help us to take the right decision?
If you are doing so well in your country, why do you want to uproot yourself? Any reasons?
Hi Neger, please see my comment below, meant for you…
I don’t understand why some are very offended by this article. It’s her opinion. Some have good and some have unfortunate experiences. Yes Canada is a beautiful country and there are many advantages to living here but I can also think of many disadvantages. It all depends on your expectations and priorities of life. Wow you all proved her right with your rude answers and that was my hardest struggle in Canada. People made in to robots to serve a capitalist world. I am one of those robots too but it took me a while to adjust living among robots.
I don’t understand why people are very offended. Everyone’s experience is different. When my family immigrated to Canada we face a lot of hardships too and no I did not have any high expectations. I am one of the last people on earth who would look down on odd jobs (I hate to use that term) and hence I worked them. Today I am training to be a medical doctor (first year resident) but I can see where the writer comes from. Although the law in this country is not racist, I lived in Halifax and boy is it one of the most racist cities in the world. I don’t live there any more so please don’t ask me why are you still there. It did take me a while to relocate though because it is not easy to move. Its not like you are changing apartments. Yes this is a beautiful country and has many advantages living here but it is certainly not a bed of roses and coming from UAE, I can tell you that people in Halifax were definitely way more racist than the people in UAE. That’s not to say people in UAE are not. My point here is there is an essence of truth to the article even if it is exaggerated. Why does it offend some of you so much? Expressing your opinion freely is one of the advantages of living in this Country so let it go. If you have something to say , please say it constructively and by the way for those of you saying go back well guess what first world countries should stop meddling in second and third world countries, turning our leaders into your leaders puppets. When that happens trust me many will go.
i 100 percent agree, this story is similar to mine. with all the details are amazingly correct. the immigration itself is a conspiracy from the gov of canada and their intention is to make profit and sustain the demographics of canada disregarding the employement market.
I need help.. I m from Pakistan recently completed my degree.. I did computer n info systems engineering from NED.. no job experience no Canadian experience. .. I want to know what should I do to get a job here in canada in my field, salary is not an issue ready to do any coop or internship position..
Are you in Canada after getting your PR or just a visitor?
In canada got my PR..
Since you are PR, you might be knowing all these things.
Hell all, it’s a kind query here.. I have completed my B. Tech in IT. Having around 3.5 yrs of exp in SAP (software consultant!), presently I am working with IBM. I am planning to migrate to canada. Wud it b a right decision?? If so, will it be gud to take a course out there and search a job by side with study visa or to apply for my PR wait for it n search a job out there from here. I am from India and 27 yrs of age.
Someone with experience with SAP asked a similar question previously and we answered that. If you get PR, then you save in terms of college/univ fees because international students are charged three times more than Canadian citizens or PRs. Whether the decision to migrate to Canada is good or not depends on your circumstances and your own gut feelings. But age is on your side.
SAP has good demand, but competition is high due to outsourcing, so there are many people in local market who came in TFW program for consulting firms like IBM, Accenture, TCS and trying to settle down in CIC/FSW category. Having said that, there is good chance if you know new technologies rather than just traditional ABAP program, like PI, WF, BPM etc. and good command in English, if you don’t have much exposure in newer tech then at least you should have USA work experience working. If you have demanding skills, you maybe able to get the job even before landing here in Canada (rare though). As far as certification goes, I disagree to “Newsadmin”, SAP certificate is global n still valid in Canada, exam process is same wherever you appear and it’s SAP, AG, Germany who certifies it not India. In fact, nobody really cares about certificate unless you are interested in Govt. Job in Ottawa (new immigrants are not eligible anyway, you need to have security clearance), what is important here in Canada for IT job in Canada apart from core technical skill, is soft skill like presentation, team work etc.
Good market for SAP is Calgary, Montreal (language may be a barrier, high competition n low wage), Toronto (high competition, low wage), upcoming market Regina (Saskatoon) n few jobs in Halifax.
If you are young, I think you should try, maybe you have to start with low salary range, but eventually after adding couple of years of local experience, you will be in better place.
Just wanted to add little more info regarding SAP jobs, apart from TFW, there are others who came into competition. As SAP/few IT jobs are highly paid, many under employed n highly educated join crash course n certification courses (majority of them are in Toronto n Montreal), try to get into market with cooked up resumes. I have no complain, its their survival struggle, BUT -ve side of that 1. they give hard time genuine candidate as they are ready to work in low salary to get their first break 2. many of them fail to perform on job due to lack of hands on practice/real time work experience, many here blame recruiters not selecting their resume without local experience. This one of the reason specially in SAP why recruiters don’t proceed with lack of local experience, they want to make sure the candidate is genuine, so they look for people who worked in a local reputed firm few years.
I. Am a canadian and I love Canada. It is a land of dreams, hard working and pay back. If you do not like Canada, then leave!
Mr Abdallah A Al Ramahi, please keep the debate civil and there is no need for you to pontificate to others what they should do or not do. Everybody has his or her own experiences in life.
Hi, R u somewhere related to pushpa das and kamini das from Pakistan, Quetta.
I am 24 year old, Mba in retail management with no experience..
I wanted to know if there is any scope of getting in retail sector in canada ? Please advice.
Most jobs in Canada are in the retail sector. The age is on your side and you can get update your credentials.
I strongly believe that if someone is really good, he can do well in any place or situation. I wonder what would have happened to you if you were living in Canada for 20 years and moved to Dubai in 2009……Dubai would have offered you a Million $$ job???/
I say Canada Immigration department choose you to migrate to Canada thinking that you are good and have skill sets to get absorbed in Canadian Job Market. But No!! They were wrong. You could not sell yourself well to the employers here…….
I moved here in 2011. I have lived in Dubai and also UK but never complained about any place I choose to live because it was my decision to live in Dubai, UK or Canada……
Any ways be strong and more sensible and work on the reasons ‘Why Canadian employers are not hiring you’.
If you are really good for my business why I would not hire you?????
Hi NewsAdmin,
Kindly go through my short query here and guide me over it. I would be extremely grateful to you for it could be a life-changing decision for me.
I am 24 years old and have an MSc degree in IT from the delhi University. I have 1.5 years experience in the sowftare development/support domain. I earn 3 lakh indian rupees per year. I am not happy with my carer here and was thinking of migrating to canada by 2016 solely for the purpose of a better life (wealth/standard of living). I come from a low middle class family background.
Would it seem to be a logical decision for me to take this step at this stage.
With your age on your side and IT being not a bad profession in Canada, you should try.
I was born and brought up in dubai.. I am a person who can weigh the pros and cons very well and that is why I wouldnt rate dubai as a livable city for indians. Racism is at its peak. Expecially against indians.. We work like dogs and get paid far below what we are worth, because in dubai indians (even with a professional degree) = cheap labour.. We should understand that labor laws in dubai are very weak and the ones suffering are the Indians .. I know uneducated whites who earn 4 times what an indian with a professional degree in the same company earns. Please realize that taxless doesnt mean life is free. You pay a lot for medical care with mediocre health care standards, pay a part of your salary for children education and wait, it is a fact that the cost of a studio flat in dubai/abudhabi is as expensive as a double bedroom flat in new york.. During all this you have to save up money to buy a house in your home country, put up a good retirement plan and also save up for the huge amounts of money you are going to spend for old age health care, and finally go back to your County either when you are fired or retired. Canada is giving you basic human rights,will give you citizenship and take care of you in the future.. I am not saying life will be on a silver platter or a rose bed in other counties but you need to figure out which suits you best and work through the problems.. I pray for you and please remember grass on the opposite bank is always Greener. Tc
Arabs and Canadians consider themselves superior, hence they do not treat everyone equal. Arabs do exploit labor and human values,however thanks to good Canadian legal systems it has not openly possible to do the same here.
The only downside I see for Canada is systemic discrimination against non whites in jobs. There are NO jobs for outsiders and they wont be tolerated to have good ones.
I moved to Canada in 2010. I had an engineering degree and few years of work experience but I was very good at what I did and had I would say much better skill sets than Canadians in the same job. Before moving to Canada my wife got an admission for MS in the university and I contacted all employers in my field. I started this process just when I had applied for immigration so by immigration I had contacts with many employers and had some real prospects in place. When I moved to Canada I found the exact same job in the largest company in my sector in North America. Yes my starting salary was not great but I worked hard and in few years I was managing the entire business for one province. Fact is if you are well prepared and if you really seek out and are willing to move around in Canada and willing to challenge yourself then there is no place like Canada. Why the hell should I even think of working in Middle East where salaries are peanuts and people are paid based on their passport. Many construction workers are not even paid for months. To tell you the truth I personally hate the middle east culture. What kind of professionalism is it that you do not pay your employees for months, you hold their passports. They are a trash bag. Fact is Canada is a great great place, this is a free, fair country where everyone is treated equal. Many immigrants come here and don`t leave because they realize no matter what this nation has the right rules in place. If you don`t like Canada then go back to Middle East or anywhere in the world but don`t complain about this great place. This is a place where I believe people with skills shine and do extremely well just like the US.These are nations where nothing is impossible. GO CANADA!!!!!
1 other thing thing which is completely different than the article that I have noticed when I used to live in Toronto is that the city is full of Schizophreniacs and mentally unstable people. In the buses, subways and my own apartment building these people are running around and the authorities or the government are ignoring the issue of public safety. I was scared like hell most the time around such people because there’s no telling what they can do to you.and in the eyes of the law they might get away with murder even because they are mentally unstable. a rich country like Canada with strong law and order should not ignore these kind of serious issues and should think of the public,if not image that they are painting for the tourists visiting canada.anyway but what the author wrote is sad but a fact because studying in universities you become aware that more than 95% of immigrants in this country are struggling every day. I had some good memories in Canada and some very bad ones. All in all I can say that I may visit Canada because its beautiful but living in Canada is a big NO for me. now I live in London, it is much more expensive and I do miss all the great sales back in toronto. but I’m much more happier here than I was over there. my comments mean no offense to anyone who view this article. it is completely my point of view and I do not mean to disrespect anyone else.
Hi Admin,I am Ay…I live in Finland presently.I am 32 a graduate of Town and regional planning,married with one kid who is less 2years.My wife is 28 a graduate of computer science plus 5 microsoft certification.She’s got 6years working experience.I feel miserable here in Finland because there is no prospect at all for educated africans and I have been doind extreme dirty job for the last 6years that I have been here.I and my wife already made up our mind about relocating to Canada and we are willing to start afresh and from scratch,take extra courses and try to get it right.Do you think we stand a chance considering my age(32) and our educational background?.Hoping to hear from you soonest.
If you are willing to start afresh and ready to upgrade your credentials, then why not? And Canada has a huge African community with a long history from the days of the American revolution when thousands fled to Canada. The age is on your side.
Please read the main article and other comments CAREFULLY. Most IT jobs are outsourced to India/China/Eastern-Europe. Canada has a huge unemployment rate right now (so do most other countries). My advice is to wait for about 2 to 3 years and allow the Canadian (and world) economy to correct itself. I don’t know much about Finland, but your kid will have a decent education in Canada – so if your kid is your priority move. My adivce is NOT (DON’T) to live in Toronto (GTA), Calagary/Edmonton or Vancouver. Go to a smaller town, especially if you want to bring up your child well – people are friendly. Do some research…
Maro of Canada,
Here is a free advice from a Canadian who immigrated to Canada in 1964.
Canada at that time was less than 9 millions. It is now over 30 millions.
Canada is not a paradise, but it is a decent country with a high standard of living and bery low crime rate in comparison with say USA.
Do not expect your experience OUTSIDE CANADA to be of all use in Canada. Construction materials and methods are very different in Canada than most other countries except USA. So, if you have your Master Degree or Ph.D. from India or the Middle East, do not expect it to be the same as a B.Sc. in same field in Canada. It is not necessarily less, but is definitely DIFFERENT.
Medical profession in Canada is a relatively closed field, although no body will ever admit that publicly. reason, health Care is free and Doctors are a load on tax payers, more doctors mean more medical expenses, and this is the REAL REASON, if you have a medical decree even highest specialist degree, you will not be finding a job IN YOUR FIELD here. yes many Medical Doctors, Engineers, Dentists and even university professors in their countries work as taxi Drivers and dish washers.. This is a fact. But if they persevere and look for FREE ENTERPRISE OPPORTUNITIES, they will get much higher incomes than working in their professions. Their children who grow up in Canada and are raised in Canada, will have better chances and this is the REAL GOAL an immigrant should have.
Canada has relative to many other countries higher taxes, as taxes are paid on many levels, purchases (Sales tax), licenses (special taxes), and Income tax. But taxes cover the services people get..no health care is like Canada’s, look at USA for example. Education is free up to high school (secondary schools as called by many). University Education by immigrants and Canadians (all residents) is at 1/3 to 1/4 of what a foreigner will pay, the difference is paid by taxes.
So, look at Canada REALISTICALLY and DO NOT EXPECT TO HAVE A PARADISE but in the long run, if you are working hard and depending on yourself, you definitely will have a much better chgance than in Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Libya, or Egypt. This is my experience as I know all of them and Canada and hav ebeen now in Canada for more than 50 years!! Take a sincere unpaid advice from an old Immigrant who is now Canadian.
Hi all.I was just wondering if any one knows any information regarding the sales field in the food & beverage industry? Difficulty,salaries,opportunities,best place to start,…etc.thanks
Yes, you can work checkout at a big-box store or gas bar. But in places like Toronto there is a waiting list for ‘checkout’ jobs. I am sure this will answer your question. Canada’s banks were secretively bailed out in 2008 for $114BN+. That is why Canada looked good and people came here leaving their jobs in other countries (like the author?). Read the Canadian news critically (not wishfully). Ask yourself ‘why is the bank of Canada not increasing the interest rate?’, ‘why do houses cost so much?’ as anybody you know in Canada what they do for a living – ASK DEEP QUESTIONS. Over tens-of-thousands of Canadian kids go hungry every day! Ask why does Canada have Soup kitchens and food banks, etc. DO YOUR RESEARCH! In any country it is who you know and not what you know and Canada takes the cake – read the commment by Sam Jackson.
The immigration policy was probably designed to brain drain qualified and skilled people from developing countries and them make them bring all their investments to pump into Canadian economy to bring prosperity.
Remember no jobs would be given no matter how well qualified or experienced. Jobs are for whites only.The white people have been conditioned not to grant employment to non whites and even if job is given to a few it is ensured they are fired well in time on false grounds of incompetence.
The whites would go to the extent of criticizing the employer as to why the non-white exists in the organisation else they will not do business with the org.
The govt is a silent party to all this nuisance feeds loans and student loans to immigrants to get useless degrees from Canadian universities thus on one hand running the establishments and upon graduation candidates are never given jobs on grounds of having no Canadian experience no matter if one had already worked in top Fortune 100 companies.
So this leaves grads no choice other than to go abroad to work to make money and in turn pay taxes to feed the Canadian system and repay loans that they took to get useless degrees that could not even get them a job in Canada.
If one even comes back, no canadian org is willing to hire yet on the basis of Canadian credentials and experience in Fortune 100 companies.
So come here for cheap labour, low paying jobs that cannot make ends meet.
Else it is a wonderful and safe country to live and enjoy life. They key is bring money from outside of Canada to pump it into the local economy to benefit the whites.
White Canadians will never mix up or socialize with new canadians specially the french class.
Watch komataga maru documentary.
You are so smart. Your views describe the Canadian condition very well!
I would like to hear from the author in another 5 years time. Its just the first part of her story. If they decided to be in Canada about 10 years earlier i-e younger & energetic, they had better chances of settling down faster. Dubai can never be your home, Canada “is”. Good times or bad, when you are in your home you dont give credit to your home or start blaming it. Your home, with all the support system around you is just there for you. Its up to you how you make the best use of system. Once settled, you support to make that system even better. The author didnt mention anything about her kids. I would like to hear from them as well. There are many other elements of this story including, attitude, competence, adaptability & temperament etc. As a general comment, every batch of people i-e immigrants will have extremely successful stories & some struggling stories. We know a couple who are both qualified dentist from an eastern country & cook food for delivery. Their kids are so young that where ever husband goes for delivery, he takes them along as dentist wife is too busy cooking. Guess what, they have saved enough money for opening their own practice & they are both close to getting license. Can you imagine where will they be in 4 years time!
Oh well, I moved to Canada from USA in 2002 with a U.S degree and U.S. experience. However I didn’t have Canadian experience which is supposed to be superior to their own ‘Daddy’ the big old U.S.A. Most of the innovation, products and ideas are making their way into Canada from U.S.A and Canadian economy is mostly (around 80%) dependent on U.S.A here. A specific race of Canadians who is born here is not well educated, and doesn’t deserve to hold the positions they are currently holding. They do not want to ‘Hire’ an expert who can lead and challenges their status quo. I could tell that they were intimidated by my confidence, experience and challenging personality, they didn’t want to hire me because they figured that they will out of job once I started working in their organization. I figured that most of these white ‘Canadian’s did not even have degrees required to be working in the profession but they were hired due to the ‘Friends or relatives’ in the company and worked their all lives. They are ignorant losers who don’t want competition in their organization or country. The reasons are obvious, if they open the market and start hiring based on merit they will soon be out of market and most of the qualified and hard working immigrants will take their place.
Canadians experience is not superior to the U.S experience and education, it’s actually inferior to their LORDS. This is just a gimmick, successful immigrants here in Canada runs their own business away from the main stream and they work in ‘Silos’ Yes, I agree that any immigrant can be successful in Canada but system doesn’t support success in professional jobs. Many immigrants are under employed here and they continue to be under employed all their lives, it’s not success, it’s just accepting the fact that they can not get a better job.
I can write a bigger article on the situation in Canada which can provide a bigger picture on the shortcoming of this country. I love Canada as a country but these Canadians need to man up and accept the reality that it’s competition and bet it on merit not your lame culture of friendship and ass kissing.
Sam Jackson: Well said! This exactly the point, a ‘select few’ have established themselves and control the economy. It is ‘who you know and NOT what you know here’. If you read the other comments above, the people who are ‘happy’ are the ones who are doing the ‘lesser’ jobs….
I live in Calgary, I disagree to this. I know many people got the deserved job/salary based on their US education and/or experience specifically in IT related jobs even when market is bit slow in 2008. It depends on many factors, skill set in demand etc. Same with Oil and Gas sector, many people from other countries did get the job with their prior experience/qualification from other countries.
Hello,
WOW!! Lots of comments here! The biggest adjustment is going from a tax free country to one like Canada where taxes exist and fairly high. Secondly, teachers are not being laid off, they are just not getting hired. Boards do not graduate teachers, universities do. The teaching profession is tough to get into for everyone, not just immigrants. It seems the writer did not do research thoroughly or apply for jobs before arrival. It may be tough when moving from one country to another and some difficulty should be expected. Life in a new country is what you make it, don’t expect something for nothing. Try and try again but don’t give up. All the best!
Canadians have the same struggles when they start. They have to get an education, but more importantly, they research what jobs are available for the courses they want to take. When they finish their degree, they must get experience from a lower paying job and before they can move into a job in their field. (Usually they do this by working at a fast food restaurant while in high school). No one gets a good job without experience and education. I’m very curious, why would people think they would get hired without Canadian experience or education? People immigrate to Canada from hundreds of countries. Are Canadians supposed to research the education systems and jobs of every country, know how that equates to Canadian education and roles and then choose you above all of the Canadian educated and trained applicants? How are we to even verify if what you have on your resume is true? If we arrived in your country, not speaking your language very well, from a university that you have never heard of, would you hire us above your native born citizens? I truly do not understand these expectations from every single country around the world? Are we to educate, provide free healthcare and jobs to everyone?
Utter nonsense. The hubris of this statement is beyond belief. So an Engineering Graduate, with years of experience, regardless from which country, must flip burgers and wash dishes even after getting a Canadian degree, to meet some ungodly Canadian standard? Like what exactly? Name one field that Canada is ahead of other developed nations.
I have seen the Canadian system asking an immigrant with a Canadian Masters degree with years of experience to write qualifying exams for EIT when, a fresh Canadian Graduate is automatically granted his EIT. I took my Masters degree and left immediately to the US where, they were glad to pay me double the typical Canadian starting salary without asking for ‘US experience’. Funny, US never asks for US experience, witness H1B, TN (NAFTA) visas etc.
I would warn potential highly skilled immigrants to stay away and definitely not bring more than what you need to survive initially of your hard earned money, not one cent more. They’ll take your money and chew you out and will never acknowledge your skills. For low to moderately skilled, you don’t have much to lose.
If you’re not lucky or possibly in IT, Canada can destroy your life. It’s up to you to decide whether you want to sacrifice your life so that, ‘possibly’ your kids can have a better one. If you’re a qualified person, you don’t have to and have better opportunities in other places. This is not the 1950s, for god’s sake. Be warned.
Dear news admin , kindly provide advice for an intending PhD graduate who will graduate by 2016 and begin a lecturing career at 36 years old in Entrepreneurship.Main interests/specializations include social entrepreneurship,family entrepreneurship ,strategic management and technology commercialization. I am married with a wife and 2 children. My wife is an accountant. Thank you
Yours look like specialized area, and we will let you know by sending your query to those who are in this field. As for your wife, accountancy is fine. She will have to update her credentials.
It depends on where you have your degree but essentially if not from Canada or USA, do not expect it to be of any help. You may have to start from the bottom rung of the ladder. But with your education and WILLING TO START ON YOUR OWN, you will arrive to a higher level, by perseverance and willing to work flexibly. My Ph.D. is in Engineering, in a very special field and from USA. Flexibility meant that I adapt to what the market needs. I am now the owner and VP of a computer applications company and not in my specialised field. I changed my engineering field of work four times, from design of concrete structures, to steel structures to earth quake (seismic) engineering to reliability engineering ..etc and now in a very different field all together. My three sons, born and educated here, one graduated from Hotel and restaurant management to now construction despite beeing the winner of the highest prise in his studies. Another graduated from university of Toronto (highest in Canada) in mathematics and science but is a very successful sales manager. The third is a graduate of Commerce but is working as private investigator, something that he has to learn on his own.
So, if you take these examples as a guide and be willing to adapt and persevere, you should have the best chances. Canada gives you and better it is for your children, the chance to prosper and live a comfortable life, away from revolutions, wars and instability…
It all depends for what reason one wants to immigrate to Canada. If you are an ordinary worker at your home, then yes Canada is the right place to be in, provided you are a hard-working person. The pay off for working hard would definitely be rewarding once you immigrate. Sky is the limit for your aspirations and strive.
On the other hand, if you are coming from a third world country to Canada, then you have touched paradise. Security, law and order, and non discrimination are all present in this great country. Not forgetting the social security and many other amenities a Canadian benefits of. No one should ask for more in Canada, for Canada has all what life can afford. But remember, it is not as rosy as it sounds. Being a Canadian citizen, in as much as there are rights you are definitely entitled too, yet there are obligations you have to fulfill. After all, isn’t this what life should be all about? In any situation, it cannot always be take, take, take…, but in reciprocation there has to be “give”.
Hello News Admin,
I agree with you. The people commenting don’t read or watch Canadian news (most don’t listen to CBC). I have travelled to every province in Canada and have made great friends. My comments are to highlight the problems in the system, not a lack of love for Canada or Canadians… but like I said a few families are in ‘control’ and that is what we must aim to change. As for corruption, yes (all things equal) Canada is one of the most corrupt. We read daily about the Ontario Power Mishaps, the Senate, PM Allison Redfords mansion in the skies in Alberta, The secretive (not a secret anymore) bank bailout, the government ordering the EI to reject 40% of the claims, the CRTC-Bell-Rogers association, NWT diamonds sent to Europe for polishing, the oil refining deal with the USA, the NAFTA, the Robo-Calls in the last Fed election, etc. My many Canadian (old generations, 2nd+ generation since the 80s and Military/Government) friends tell me of the history because I make friends and AM Canadian. I have also served in many associations and boards, etc and also have friends in the forces.
My comments are based on facts with the hope of educating the new immigrant of the perils and also hopefully to catch the attention of the powers that be to CHANGE Canada before it is TOO LATE.
Thank you.
Lots of people are posting nasty comments by sitting in other countries but pretending that they are in Canada. Comments from anyone and anywhere are welcome but don’t pretend that you are in Canada or that you are Canadian. We are not displaying their nasty comments here.
Sounds to me like this is a one-sided conversation to slander my country by a bunch of people that are more than happy to take from it what it gives them. Then turn around and say that would rather be back home.
If that’s the case just do it then.
But you won’t post that. You’ll moderate it so no one sees it.
Hello A Canadian,
I feel for you and understand what you are saying. But try to understand what many are saying. Like I said elsewhere, I have made many GREAT ‘old-generation’ Canadian friends from NL to PEI to ALBERTA/SK/MN/ON to BC to NWT. You maybe one of the fortunate ones, but I know people in the ‘sensitive’ industries who are wondering what is going on on Canada, I have a neighbour who is highly skilled and a good worker (Irish descent) who for ‘no-real-valid-reason’ get laid off and has to fight the EI to get the claim. My other neighbour (lady) who is English descent lost her 20+ year job and is struggling to make ends meet while here CEO is enjoying a salary close to $1MN per year. I could go on and on and on, and I have written and spoken to politicians in all MAJOR parties… nobody cares… the banks were bailed out in 2008 with $114BN but the bank CEOs still boast how their salaries were $12MN+ per year (I also have an email from Industry Canada JUSTIFYING the outsourcing of Canadian jobs to India/China/Eastern-Europe/etc). So ‘A Canadian’, tell me ‘what gives’? I have written a paper on how the Libs-and-the-(p)Cs run this country taking turns and how the NDP is there only to pacify the protest vote and the ‘Greens’ are there only to ‘justify’ the ‘environment’ taxes. An Eastern Canadian, who’s ancestors came over 100s of years ago told me (he is 90+ years now) that with every consecutive government the only thing that has happened progressively is tha loss of ‘freedoms’ of the average Canadian. Please feel free to comment as this would be a great place to discuss this as, like I said, the politicians I write to don’t want to discuss this with me. Thank you. Canada is a beautiful country with nice people. I have driven from coast-to-coast-to-(nea)coast and have seen stepped and touched each and every province. 🙂
“In my opinion Canada is (one of the) the most corrupt country in the world”
Hahahaaa, that is because your opinion is not very educated.
“My wife and I REFUSE to be SLAVES here, so we are fine.”
Lol you are amusing and have brightened up my morning with your ignorance. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Dear Readers
We must learn from the mistakes of others and experience of people. Canada is the third largest economy of world. This country provides employment as per the equality standards without any discrimination. This country has the best social and human sectors serving the natives and international immigrants. I am not a Canadian national but I have read about it and it’s government. I love it’s voluntary services which are run to help people to settle in Canada and get good jobs. I must advise you to return to India immediately and live your own life. I can pray for you. I would appreciate you if you write few of the good things about Canada also to praise the country which obliged you by welcoming at your wish and will. You are not happy here you can go to solace where you get pleasure and happiness. God may give you peace of mind
Mr Arshad, you are wrong about Canada’s economy…it is not the third largest economy. It is not even among the Top 10 economies of the world. You are living in Pakistan, and immigrants who live here know a lot more than you about the ground realities. Thanks.
Here are the facts: Canada’s banks were the first to require a ‘bail-out’ in 2008 (secretively) with $114BN (why secretively?). New Immigrants bring US$7.5BN per year to Canada. Old ones (like me) who REFUSE to work for Wal-Mart/McDonalds bring in US$150BN per year to Canada (this money is why Canada is ‘rich’). I have lived and worked in many countries. Just look at CRTC-Bell-Rogers(not to mention Insurance, Banks, etc) and you know how corrupt/controlling Canada is! My wife and I REFUSE to be SLAVES here, so we are fine. We have an excellent command of the English Language so nobody can get the better of us (if you don’t want to learn English/French-for-Quebec and Integrate {don’t keep watching your homeland TV/movies, etc} – LEAVE!). Any job that pays over $80,000 per year is ‘reserverd’. The ‘planned communities’ are nothing but SLUMS (so don’t RUSH to get one and create ‘demand’), and they are making them smaller (tighter) every time a new one come up. DONT TRUST REALTORS – even if they are your own kind – after some time everybody forgets their ‘scruples’. Don’t be SHY to bargain. And most IMPORTANTY don’t show off to your countrymen in your homeland, that is the biggest SIN you do by making more people fall into the same hole you are in – be truthful with them (about your difficulties). In my opinion Canada is (one of the) the most corrupt country in the world. The problem, however, is with the ‘New Immigrants’ who ‘love’ to work for minimum wage. The average ‘Caucasian/2nd+ Generation’ Canadian REFUSES to be a slave, they have more dignity than the new immigrants. Many have written articles/books on how Canada is CONTROLLED by a FEW (about 75) families… the rest are just SLAVES! Take the above advice and you can BEGIN to make it in Canada (or any country, for that matter)… but keep in mind, in Canada a big salary is if you are earning over $120,000+ per year – how many new immigrants earn that much?. Finally, in ANY country, as they say ‘money talks – bullshit walks’ – IMHO
its easy if u like dubai be there .
I live in Canada past 10 years, this 200 years old country has developed up to this because people work hard.Its not like India or middle east.people coming from these countries will take solid 5yrs of hard work just to begin,after 10 years u will be having a Canadian life.high security for human life,no bribe, free medical,every official things happen in timely fashion. but no job in Canada is guaranteed. and our whole life depend on job here.
I lived in US for 20 years now back home and extremely happy doing business of my own) ……..i finished my bachelors and MBA from distinguished schools and then worked at Blue chip companies….during schooling, I didnt mind working on campus crappy jobs at that time…..but there is no meaning of doing these shit jobs overseas, for people who has options……the global shift of power already happened……China is the largest economy now and India , Russia, Brazil and other emerging countries will create new high paying jobs for years to come…..so i believe if you have strong morale then stay in your own country and try to make a good living because many world leading conglomerates are being born in these emerging countries at the moment.
Admin you are doing a nice job by helping all
I am 39 years old doing job at managerial position in aerospace industry. My wife is 37 years old and is specialist physician. We have two kids aged 12 and 10 years.
We both have PKR 100k/month plus salaries in Pakistan along with many facilities like free housing, medicals, servant etc. A year back we filed our applications for Canada immigration which are now close to be finalized. The only reason for that was providing good educational options to our children in our close supervision.
The realities discussed here pose a bigger challenge than we perceived earlier. For the very first time we are reviewing our decision to migrate. Can you please give some guidance on our scenario.
As we have said, come here when you are young (student) or you are willing to do any job. Bluntly speaking, you should not migrate because you and your wife are doing well in Pakistan. No immigration official or agent will tell you this thing. Both of you are working in such professions that it will be difficult for you to get a break in Canada. Please don’t get impressed by the stories of others you hear. Considering you age, the best route for you is this: send your kids to Canada for higher education. They can apply for permanent residency after their degrees and then sponsor you. Then you will have the choice whether you want to be in Canada or not, without staking your own careers.
Could agree no less with this article. I have a Ph.d from a Canadian University and I am still being denied job and even an opportunity to teach. It all depends on whether you have contacts. Immigration is an assault on human dignity. They promise you heaven and you are DISCRIMINATED at every step. Canada is good for refugees and people who have no hope of making it big in their respective countries. They can some how manage. But for people in established positions, please do not make the mistake of taking the immigrant boat.
Joe, I read many comments here… your comments is the only accurate one (see my comment above). Canada IS GREAT if you come from as a refugee similar situation, but NOT if you lived n dignity/respect (doing good jobs) in our country. But, I will say it again if the Immigrants integrate then the ‘others/government’ wont be able to keep up the discriminated. The disrimination goes UNDETECTED by the use of the ‘recruiter’ (the hiring company is protected as the ‘recuiter’ is the one doing the descrimination). I don’t advice anybo to send they ‘resume’ to ‘recuiters’. Again, I say LEARN ENGLISH, LISTEN TO/WATCH CANADIAN RADIO/TV. KNOW what is going on!
Hi Newsadmin
Nice to see that u r assisting people in their way to move to Canada. I would also like to seek your guidance on my status, i am 35 years old ( married with 2 kids 5&2) & already have my PR CARDs planning to move to Canada next year, I am ACCA qualified from UK & a member of certified general accountants of Canada (CGA) apart from that I am writing my final paper of CPA US as well & planning to do CAAPA certification( distance learning from SAIT) as well, planning to move to calgary & targeting a job in oil & gas industry .
Currently working in Middleast on a decent job. My experience is in the field of finance , accounts & audit.
Please advise.
You have the right qualifications and experience. Definitely, Calgary is the place to be in, today. And you are at the age after which it will become risky for you. Possibly, don’t resign your job in ME and don’t bring you family intially. And possibly, first come alone because then you will be able to concentrate on your job hunt and control expenses.
Do you want to swap, mate… I am in Australia, hehhehehhhh.
Anyway from experience, you will be really crazy to do that. If you have a decent job, especially in the middle east where you are a king, you will put yourself and your family in a shit life in Canada or Australia. You will remember my words for the rest of your life if you go ahead. Sorry, if I see someone going to drawn to Canada or Australia, I have to warn him.
calgary is the best place i live here and there is abundance for the one who know how to make money .
dubai is place where u sprnt most of u r time working for someone and then what ??
Canada is a great place. One of the few countries where you can start from zero and build your life if you work hard and smart. Here is my story.
I came here as a 18 year old international student. Started off washing dishes, then flipped burgers, then a math tutor, then a teaching assistant, then a research assistant, then a co-op student at well known companies during summers, then again delivered pizzas and worked as teaching assistant during university terms. After paying over 100k in tuition fees and long nights in the university libraries or student center, I landed a decent job as an engineer after graduation, got promoted after a couple of years to a management rank and after another promotion and switching companies I’m earning $160k/year. That’s my last 11 years. I’m 29 year old living in a 750k house with 310k paid off and 440k mortgage. I drive an Audi A4 that was bought brand new 4 years ago and I’m married to a beautiful girl who I met here. And I just can’t wait to see what else future has in store. My parents visit me from India pretty much every summer for a couple of months. All I want to say is, if you work hard and smart and show some perseverance, you do get chances to succeed here. On the other hand, you have to adapt to Canadian culture and have strong communication skills. If you can’t do this, then it’s better to stay put wherever you are now.
Being the son of parents of immigrants who moved to Canada from Dubai, I agree, I watched my parents struggle as new immigrants in Canada raising a family of five. My dad owned a business in Dubai and my mom had a well paying corporate job. The main point is, they did it for their kids future.
Did they have started low paying jobs? Absolutely! Did they complain about it? No. They understood that they made a conscious decision for the betterment of their kids lives.
While my parents struggled, my two siblings and I graduated through university and the fruits of their labour paid off. I worked my way up the corporate ladder and was the Director of Operations at a national company by the age of 28.
Us “kids” now are forever grateful to out parents and will make sure they like a happy like in Canada.
You mention that you put your kids through university. Where did they study? In Canada? Why did you leave Dubai? If you had stayed there, what would you have done after retirement?
Dear Newsadmin
I am 31 Years old from Bangladesh, I am married with a 6 month old kid. I have a BBA and an MBA degree in Finance. I understand from previous comments that I have to start from the very beginning so I am not mentioning anything about my experience(correct me if I am wrong). If I plan on moving to Canada I would like to know your view about the following,
1. What are the job opportunities for people with BBA & MBA degrees from Bangladesh?
2. What courses equivalent to my current degree do I need to pass to get eligible for a decent job?
3. Can these course/degrees be acquired being in my country?
4. Till I get a proper job what other jobs is there to support my family temporarily?
5. Initially are the income from the temporary jobs(odd jobs) adequate to maintain a decent living?
Thanks & Regards
We have seen many new MBA degree immigrants India starting as bank tellers and then move up. That could be the road for you too if you come to Canada. Jobs of tellers will pay you just about enough to survive, and you can do courses (like MBA) part-time or in the evenings.
hi admin
am a degree nurse currently working in middle east.planning to migrate to canada with my 2 year old kid and husband who is in saftey field.would it be a better option
It depends on your age.
If you have that kind of hate for Canada then why dont you surrender your passport and go back to your rich country.
you have to work hard for you life and your family, changes doesnt happen in just one night.
Her bitterness about the state of her life in Canada must not be misconstrued as hate for Canada. Yes, we agree change doesn’t happen in just one night.
Hi Aley, just consider this: A person who criticizes is not a ‘hater’. People who criticize are MUCH MORE VALUABLE than people who CONFORM. It is this human-nature that drives us to excel and that is why the Government of Canada welcomes EDUCATED people.
I have employed people since 1989. The conformists never progress themselves or the enterprise. I believe the same applies for Canada (or any country).
Canada has a long way to go and people like the author who are not afraid who show the true plight actually benefits Canada (than the ones who prefer to live a lie).
Canada (the land) has a special quality – even during WW2, German spies defected when they came to Canada – people fall in love with the land. So, we criticize, grumble, etc all because of the love for Canada and not the opposite.
But, the immigration policy of the 80s, which was solely to get the Immigrant money most now end – like Sam Jackson said – we must now use the BRAINS we have to compete. It (the Immigration policy) MUST concentrate on family unificationn and making white, black, yellow, brown all feel ‘Canadian’. The more we bring 250,000+ immigrants with FALSE promises the more difficult it is to rectify the situation. Affirmative ACTION must be enforced and controlling bodies like the CRTC must be made ‘nepotism/corruption’ free.
So, in that light the author is doing a GREAT service for Canada!
Brief Analysis: They left Dubai in 2009 where world economy was still facing after shocks of “Financial Crisis”
Husband worked 3 Decades in dubai, considering he came to Dubai in 20 Years of age, in 2009 he must be 50+, this is nearly age of retirement and any company in any country would not certainly welcome employee of this age so easily
Author worked 2 Decades in Teaching profession, considering she also started work in Dubai at the age of 20 Years, What was she teaching? Which School? They rose to this position just because of skills or early entry in Dubai market, if early entry was their sucess factor in Dubai I doubt they are going to be successful even in India now.
If any one watching this and thinking to migrate to Canada or Australia, just read carefully the replies from the Anglo citizens that will tell you how their minds are setup, most of them never lived somewhere else that is why they think they have a good life there, all pushing you to work more harder like a donkey, study more (things most probably you already an expert in it), wasting time, money and family for nothing only to fall in the shit trap of their boring, tiring and killing (both physically and emotionally) life,
If you consider your self successful where you are don’t even think about the migration trap.
Hi News Admin,
I am 29 year old, currently working in the middle east as a chief accountant for the past 8 years, married with one Kid. I have been thinking on migrating to either New Zealand or Canada, but after reading all of the above comments it seems a very terrifying situation, even though i am ready to put in the hardwork. Also, my wife is a certified Special Needs Teacher, will she be able too find in a suitable job. Will we both be required to go through different courses in order to upgrade our skills. Even though age is on my side, appreciate if your could guide me a tad bit, my mind s set 70-30 towards moving to New Zealand, but don’t mind Canada as well.
Thanks,
Sherin
We don’t know about New Zealand, but in Canada you and your wife must be mentally ready to start all over again. If you ready to rough it out, you will succeed and you are at the right age.
Hi Shrein,
For Canada read ALL the above comments.
There is some demand for special-needs-teachers in Canada. But like many say, you may not get it immediately or get the ‘regular’ salary. Many corporations in Canada hire new immigrants solely to pay lesser wages.
New Zealand has a very DIFFERENT Immigration Policy. I know a person who went to NZ a long time ago with an MSC and an MBA. He went back to his own country (his marriage also broke). For many who maybe wondering what I am doing in Canada – most of my income comes from out of Canada and I am building more businesses/clients out of Canada. I made the mistake (for 9 months or so) to think I can make money in Canada (doing what I like to do) but I learnt VERY QUICKLY and I decided to give Canada time – and it is working for me slowly (very slowly – at the current rate I will have a decent revenue in Canada in another 2 to 3 years), but since I am not pressed for money in Canada I can take my time – I work with clients and countries who knew me before I came to Canada in other countries. I have ZERO ‘white’ customers in Canada (except for French Canadians) – and my customers are ones who have been ‘taken to the cleaners’ by the ones who they dealt with before me or have small budgets. Read my other comments – that is a true picture (IMHO).
Hi Sherin,
I am a bangladeshi Canadian living in canada for 12 years. after studying i am in new zealand now working for 1 year until november 14th. i would say this:
first, employment is limited in new zealand. most high level jobs are in 3 cities. auckland, christchurch, and wellington. canada has much much more jobs than here. most high level offices are just on the other side of the sea….Australia.
NZ population is 4 million while canada is 37 million; so you can imagine!
second, immigration points purely is easier in NZ due to the low population. many ppl got NZ passport and went to australia for jobs. this has been severely restricted beginning of 2014.
Third, a good thing i noticed is in NZ, you dont have to start all over again. degrees are recognized. my friend did medicine in pakistan and his degree was accepted. i was shocked to hear that cause in Canada it will never be so. I started a world tour of working in different countries after frustrated of not getting jobs in canada having studied upto MS in USA. withing the one year i have been here, i started surveying in the field and promoted to project manager in few months. my western degree and passport is the key. my mom keeps telling me to go back but i dont want to step down from being a king in asian countries.
forth,canada’s economy is stronger and work life is more hectic than NZ. you will get more for your money, less free time than NZ. also, you must be prepared to start from the bottom in canada. i dont want to say it but i had relatives cry who being a surgeon for 25 yrs was taught how to cut bread at subway and how to mop floors.
i plan to settle in malaysia soon. i fear going back to canada and getting stuck on the low paying odd jobs.
There is an Indian song that goes like “Kahan tak suno gay kahan tak sunoown” (Till what extend you want to hear, till what extend should I say). This is true with every immigrant and irrespective after 1.5 years everybody struggles and stand up to take the challenge. This is why the slogan, ” Canada, yours to discover”.
If you forgot who you were and what you were doing/how successful you were back in Dubai/home and mentally prepare yourself to start from zero again, there is 99.9% chance that you will succeed.
hi admin
im 30.. recently married with 6 years experience in the travel industry..i currently work as a senior account manager for a reputed airline company in the gulf. With regards to my education..ive completed my bachelors in comm followed by an MBA in marketing
i have been stuck with the thought of immigrate to canada or australia for a while now as i din have the right information or advice to make a decision.. However after reading the above comments/suggestions..i do have a better picture abt canada.
.my questions :
1) whats the scope of travel industry in canada.? hm clearly understand that since i wudnt have the leverage to be choosy considering my profession..but just to know..
2) job opportunities in general.. is there high rate of unemployment?
3)Would we have to enrol to any diploma courses frm Canada as we dont have canadian education exposure.?
4) your personal suggestion and if you have any idea abt the situation in australia. Is it any different there.- honestly i havent heard many disaster stories from people who’ve migrated to aus as compared to canada..
Best/Sunil
Sunil,
Frankly, what we know of Indian people with background in the travel industry coming to Canada is that most of them have their businesses – travel agencies, etc. Yes, in almost all jobs, immigrants are required to get Canadian credentials. To be honest, in many cases new immigrants should not be asked to get Canadian credentials because degrees from other places are as good as Canadian courses. But they do insist.
There is dignity in all jobs here… at least we have jobs… It took me 10 years… i finally got my Canadian dream…. Dont give up…. try another smaller less known city or Province… they have much to offer…. I moved from Toronto to Edmonton because there were more jobs available here… giving me my experience… after that… the country is yours to discover…!!! 😉
Hi
I am 33 yrs old my father came to this country 17 yrs ago after working in middle east for 20 yrs yes he had difficulties like most immigrant family with children of 4 surviving was tough but after going to school and doing old jobs my father survived he did not reach the position he left behind. But for us life was little different we where able to go to school and yes did have student loan and also we were able to get a decent job. When my father decide for us to move to Canada my other friends parents decide to send there kids to India for further studies at the end they end up in middle east. Now they have kids and would like to move to Canada for their children. My father made the decision to move to Canada for us and we are thankful for that as my father said to me never let your ego come between you and decision because when time comes to feed you they will be the 1st one to turn their face. No job is big or small
Very well said, your father made a very wise decision. Canada is a great place to live. Enjoy it.
People migrate somewhere because they want a better life, since they have no opportunity etc where they are. You were living in Dubai, you had good jobs, family was doing well! What more did you want? If you were living somewhere in India where you couldn’t find a good job or weren’t able to sustain your family, then it’s understandable. Honestly it just sounds like greed to me.
Hi Newsadmin. I’m 27, single male, working as a key account manager on the commercial side for a Fortune 500 company here. I’ve got a bachelors in computing and a MBA in marketing as my credentials. Having applied to FSWP earlier this year, what do you think are my chances of settling in and finding a job in reasonable time in Canada, if my application is successful. It’s going to be a massive step for me plus with the way my industry is right now, I don’t think my employer will allow a sabbatical so I will have to resign outright. Thanks.
You are young and computers,financial sector/accounting are pretty good areas in Canada. But you may have to upgrade your skills and get Canadian credentials.
I don’t particularly belong to the financials field, I’m a key account manager in a sales role, so my forte would be B2B account management and selling. Do you think I’d be able to cut it after getting the required Canadian credentials?
As we have mentioned, accounting is a good profession in this country. It depends on your age and determination.
I moved to Toronto, Canada almost four years back from Delhi, India. I don’t know what was the intention of post as its not true Canada don’t have opportunities as in any other countries too you have to learn and develop your skills as per country requirement and adopt in the culture else you fall behind. If the author was so frustrated about the whole situation than they should have gone back. Canada has so much to offer specially for families like free healthcare and education and equal rights rather like Middle Eastern countries where you always be immigrant. I feel this post is useless and misleading for people who are skilled and don’t mind working hard to get something good for their family.
Best of luck to everyone who is planning to move to beautiful Canada!
Hi Vipin, As we have mentioned and as some posts by various readers also say that you should be young and willing to do any job when you migrate to Canada. Looks like you fall in the category of young (student) who got his degree and got a job or someone willing to take up any job. Good you have succeeded, like so many do. But we at this portal know so many other young Indian students who are pushing their resumes around and not getting jobs despite their local degrees. We know that they are working as security guards at airport, as waiters in restaurants. We know the Indo-Canadian community across Canada very well and we can tell you that if many Indians with MBAs/CFAs are successful corporate executives in downtown Toronto, there are tons of others with similar degrees who are not getting any jobs or are working as bank tellers. What he author has said in this article is his/her story and you must be respectful of his/her views and she is NOT misleading anyone.
I spent 11 years in canada. I went to Canada in 2001 and stayed there till 2012. I started my first job at $7/hr and reached up to $120000/year. I am now Canadian citizen and love Canada.
Seems like you are in Qatar now. Any particular reason to leave Canada after 2012?
What teh author said in this article is absolutely right for some people. Of course, what she has written is right for many well educated people from India. In India, we have good education and there is a good value and good salary for those jobs. This place Canada is good for people not well educated and ready to hard work. People from some countries, seeing money and facilities here, come here only money and for them money is everything. Working overtime and making double or triple than a normal person.
We Indians give value and most importance to the family too. That is another reason people from India don’t like this country as they (Canadians) can’t understand the family values of our Indian people.
Living with kids is really horrible here. You will be really shocked with the culture here. If you want to have a decent life (Indian standard – only Indian people can understand this), both husband and wife need to work, then forget about your kids. If money is all important, then forget your kids. If kids and family are important, then you can’t have a decent life with one person earning (there are exceptions). Or you need to have someone from your home country to take care of your kids (not someone from a different culture, they will spoil them more).
It is a good country for young people and who are ready for any jobs.
I would say if you have good education and good job and a decent status in India or any other good countries, it is better to live there.
Come to Canada only if you are ready to do any job, work overtime, ready to face hard winter, don’t prefer family or family values, no plan for kids, ready to do all work alone, spend all the money you get here, don’t think about savings and family.
I am thinking of going back to India in few years. (London dekha, Paris dekha, our dekha Japan, sare jagah me mem nahi dekha doosari Hindustan)
There are issues in India, we may not have everything there, but still India is the best for Indians.
By the way, I am from God’s own country.
Hi
I am 30 year old mechanical engineer working in oman oil field …recently I got married to a msc nurse..currently we are prepairing for our ielts exam to migrate to canda…I am putting all my earnings and wat ever I have in this effort hoping for a brtter future…Am I doing anything foolish by this …I see do many experienced people here kindly guide me….I was wondering will my wife be able to get a nurses job soon as we reach there or will I be able to find a job as an engineer …..Please give me your suggestions. …
She will have to take an exam… and then she can go from there… !!! It will take time… please dont put your hopes in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal or Calgary… try other places… its hard not to be with people from the same country… short term pain for long term gain…
HI!
If you want to make money, no matter what the job is, Canada is the place to be. Why do you want to settle here? The winter is terrible, racism, no happiness and the list goes on! If you want to do a “show-off” to your enemies, better choose some where else.
If you have your own house, property and a good income in India, “what the hell is wrong with you guys to settle here?”. What is there in Canada that we dont get in India???
I am from Kerala and have been living here since the past 3 years and still have no intention in settling here, even though I have a decent job.
I know it is unfair to say this, Wealthy people coming to settle down here in Canada deserves this kind of bad experience, and stop complaining because you asked for it.
Live your life like a King in your country 🙂
As u said about some are real but some are not true in life i thik so. I was a university lecturer in india. I came to canada to have a better life. I was doing my job in 6th place within one yaer of my arrival in canada. I am not interseed to teach in Canada. When compared to canada and india, the major and main problem is corruption and beurocracy. these two are very high in india, but when we are in canada the govt is carrying the human beings very well. i like this. the affectiin and love of the english people is very mazing. I have a better life and i can win and enter into my career. you could not be upset try your best again and again u will win.
Guys, there is two ways you could see this what she saying is right and wrong. What she is saying that people go to Dubai with a work visa and all the money goes to their pocket and no tax.They get the job for their qualifications. When you immigrate to Canada, even though computers in Canada and Asia calculate and work in the same way but companies need Canadian experience before they hire someone to do the same job they did before. The answer to that is most of the time it is due to the fact people don’t know how well you behave in a Canadian work culture so no one wants to take the risk initially.The other thing about education is Asia employers only care about what degree you hold they don’t care if you have any work-related experience you have very good example is me I don’t think if I go to India with my Canadian college diploma and 20 year IT experience I will make more than 1 lakh a month where I make easily more than 250K a year. So author, try hard just the initial 5 years are hard after that you will be fine.
yes and you will have to return to India after your retirement in Dubai… if that is what you desire then go back to India… if you want some place to call home other than India… short term pain for long term gain…
Thank you for your advice.
Please advice – my wife has 4 years experience in human resource – recruitment domain. Is it difficult to get a job in BC under open work permit.
Vicky, as we have said human resource is not a bad field in Canada. And BC and Alberta are the places to go right now.
I am working in ME and too late to migrate. My kid is studying Electronics Engineering in India and I plan to send him to Canada for Post Graduation. I can finance his PG in Canada. This way he will have Canadian qualifications that can help in finding job and eventual setting up. Am I right in my thinking? Is it a good way to enter and settle in Canada.
Saro, yes this is the right approach for you. First send your son to Canada for his PG. On completion of his studies, he will two-year work permit as well as apply for his permanent residence (PR). Then he can sponsor you. It will be quick and the least painful way to make transition to Canada. Then you will also have a choice whether you want to live in Canada or your native country.
The article mentions “self-esteem”. My god! Self-esteem, pride… That’s acquired and personal. There are many more factual things wrong with Canada that are worth mentioning. It may be a cultural thing. To some family and personal feelings matter most. But seriously how can anybody expect to be treated with dignity and welcomed into a high-paying job in any country. Even at home it is a race that is almost impossible to win. How can anyone seriously think it will be better anywhere else?
My experience in Canada is similar to that of most others: The country is advertised as paradise but actually just drains you of your resources. Real-estate is unaffordable and the houses are a joke: crappy wood construction not worth even half its price. Compare houses in the States with Canada if you want to laugh! Education is a failure (see article) and Canadians end up knowing little about the world, cannot make up their minds and are actually discouraged to do so (it’s called “political correctness” aka ignorance). Canada is a wishy washy consumerism society. Just watch their TV programs. Pathetic! I was warned in Europe but as so many others didn’t listen. Don’t get me wrong: As a white male I got a much better deal than many Indians I know here. I came to become Canadian but instead learned to appreciate the rest of the world more.
Bottom line: if you are a person of character, have strength of will and can work, you can make it anywhere. You don’t need Canada to suck your money, youth and confidence from you to leave you like the rest of Canadians: confused, broke, irrelevant.
seriously.. i agree with you…they are very dumb conservatives…you can also check how much Canadian companies spend for research and development ? it is very low compared to global or even Indian based frugal researches which are less expensive.
Hi ‘White European Canadian’,
You got it right. This is NOT a brown, white, yellow problem. It is a problem of a few SELECT families VS the rest of us. People just don’t get it, especially new Immigrants because they get ‘bogged down’ in their communities and problems (that is the idea -that is why the government ‘supports’ maintaining your ‘identity).
We I was in BC to do my IELTS test, two other boys did the tesr with me, one was from NZ and the other from Aussi. I am also from an English background, but HAD TO do the test. The girls ‘manning’ the ‘English IELTS’ center were chinese (HK?) and spoke ‘chinese-english’ and by the time we had to do our speech test we had ‘acquired’ the ‘dialect’. 🙂
The point I am trying to make is the ‘possibility’ of the IELTS center ‘belonging’ to a ‘special family’.
So, again, it is NOT brown, black, yellow, white; it is everyone else VS 75 (or so) families.
To add a ‘punch line’, last year two of my Irish friend who lived in Canada for over 10 years denounced their Canadian citizenship in favour of their Irish citizenship… (I know a few more like that, including some HK chinese friends of mine).
Thank you.
Hi Newsadmin,
You are doing great job in guiding people ! I am a Purchasing Professional (Procurement/Sourcing) with 9.8 years of experience. I am 31 years old and I live in India. I am married and have a 6 months old daughter. I am planning to apply for Canada PR this month. It would be great if you can shed some light on opportunities available within purchasing field in Toronto or whole of Canada and your expert opinion if moving at this stage of life would make sense.
Not just Newsadmin but if any individual who can advise on purchasing field, it would be of great help.
You are young and you seem to be in the right profession for Canada. If you are willing to face initial difficulties, then go ahead. But if you are doing well in India, why do you want to move to Canada?
Thank you for the reply.
But few of my friends said it is difficult to get a job when dependent accompany under Open WP. Is that true?
She hold MBA (HR) and 4 years experience in Human Resource.
Please suggest.
Yes, she can apply for an open work permit, but certain conditions are there.
Hi Newsadmin,
I am planning to do MBA from one of the college in Canada under work study visa. Under work study visa we will get 3 years WP visa too. My wife will accompany me and she is planning to work full time. Please let me know your views on the same.
Yeah, that is the right option. Lots of couples are doing like this.
I am planning to migrate by next yr 2015 with my family 2 kids and I have experience in administration & accounts around 10 yrs. Do you think I will be able to get a job? It is very scary reading all these stories but again I would like to take a chance/risk for my kids sake. I don’t mind doing small jobs.
If you area ready for any small job, then go ahead. We guess you will need some accounting courses to do here for getting a job in your field. But accounting offers jobs in this country. But most important is your age. 40 should be the deadline.
Hi,
I am 38 and my husband is 43. what is your honest opinion? are we making mistake migrating? What about admin field?
What is your profession and that of your husband? And what are your family circumstances – children, home/business ownership, etc? If you are well established, then it is advisable that you don’t uproot yourself.
My husband is purchasing office and I work as an administration officer, reasonably settled, able to save a bit. I want my kids to have good education, that’s why I want to move. But after reading all these stories, I am really scared though nothing is settled at the moment. My application is reached in Aug;14. waiting for the positive reply from CIC.
Since you are in the UAE, we guess you are facing the same dilemma that most Indians working in the Gulf face – whether to go back to India or to Canada/Australia. Since your application will take a while, you both have time to think over it. In case, your kids are about to go to college, then the right option for you is this. You (husband and wife) should stay in the UAE and send the children to Canada for college education. Your children will get their PR soon after their education and then they can sponsor you. That’s the safest option for you.
The most of important thing when you land in Canada is to get the correct guidance otherwise you will be lost with advise from every corner. I moved here several years ago from Dubai and my field is Finance and Accounting. These days there are so many opportunities in Finance and Accounting provided you have the right skill set.
Simply put..You are not fit to live in Canada..I have friends and relatives in Canada who are working at mcdonalds and constructions and they are doing fine..I think You are to proud to take low level jobs or to stupid to do it..Get out of Canada go back to where You belong..
Sitting at Benguet in the Philippines, how do you know about someone’s personal experiences in Canada? How do you know that someone is not fit to live in Canada?
I’ve move here in Canada with only $ 150 US dollars in my wallet and that’s what I started with. I started from scratch and worked hard and smart on my way up. I was a RN (resident nurse) back home and tried to pursue my profession but it was too hard for me at that time. So I was trying to be creative, I figured out that if that part is too hard to go through I’ll try another field and with a different approach. Now I am in a management position with the aviation industry and make more than a RN. The story that I’ve read, sounds like a typical kind of person who wants to start fresh but wanna be on top right away. Seen and worked with these kind of people a lot, and I surely know how these kind of person works and acts. I don’t mind it if they only know what they are doing. By the way, why are you still here? All you need is a plane ticket back to India.
But not all people can try a new field like you.
How would they know if they will not take the extra steps, i was on the medical field with zero knowledge at all about aircrafts and operational procedures. So i’m saying why move to another country which is the first step and not bother taking the other extra few steps. So you’re just gonna sit there and whine about how shitty your venture and your situation is. Well giver, and that will take him far.
I am not Canadian, not from Canada and never been to Canada and am not from north America. But I wonder at your attitude that u can decide you want to move to a country and to just take a job and make a great life and living off that country?
hi admin,
i am 32 yrs old working in the financial markets ie currency and fixed income market since 8 yrs ..I am married and have a son who is 1 yr old.After going through ur posts it looks like canadian degree is a major tool to get a decent job there.Is it cheaper to get a PR and then apply for a course or apply directly as an international student ,,
Yes, it is cheaper to get your degrees in Canada if you are PR (permanent resident). Foreign students are charged three times more fees than Canadians/PRs. And Toronto is a major financial hub in North America.
Hi NewsAdmin,
I am 33 years old and have 7+ years experience in IT industry. I am currently thinking of working abroad and want to save some money to buy a property back home in India.
1) How is the market for IT professionals in Canada? Will I have to obtain a Canadian degree? I went through your earlier posts and you mention about ‘upgrading’. Can you tell me exactly what you mean by that, if it’s not some degree? Actually I am not interested in working in IT industry any more as it is monotonous and needs continuous learning.
2)I have an IT/ITES business running parallely here in India. Will I be able to establish the same in Canada easily, may be a branch of our India office?
3) My passions include pencil drawing/painting, cooking even though am a male. But I don’t have a degree in those. I am longing to have a career in those to be exact. Is it that I can land a job that help me follow my passions?
4) I have a 2 year old kid. I and my wife need to give good eduction to him and may be make him a doctor some day. Does Canada offer free education till he becomes a doctor ready for practice?
5) I won’t get a long leave in my firm, the only option is to quit and rejoin if necessary, which I don’t prefer.
6) Should I take my wife and kid along with me now or at a later stage?
7) Most important of these all, is Canada the right place for me and my family?
Let us begin from the last and seventh point in your post:
7) Yes, Canada is a very good place for any family, any person.
6) No, you should not bring your family with you. Come alone and explore your options first.
5) Don’t close your business/job options in India when you leave.
4) Education is cheap till school. But to make him a doctor, you will have to pay all his fees which would be very expensive. But he is very young and you guys can save for him if you both work.
3) Soft skills such writing, painting, drawing, journalism,etc, are not in much demand in this country. If you are an accomplished person in these areas, please don’t come. You will be frustrated.
2) If it works out, it will be the right option for you. But you have to face the initial struggle.
1) Canada is a good place for IT professionals. But you say, you don’t want to work in this field any more.If you want, you MAY have to upgrade your skills. Employers may ask for Canadian experience and credentials.
Thanks newsadmin!!
My spouse is working here but she is interested in being a housewife and thinking of resigning her job. If I am planning to pursue a career in Canada I don’t think her quitting would be a good option. At least she can take care of household expenses and child’s education with her salary. My salary from part time jobs will be exhausted in Canada itself & won’t be able to send a part of it to her I suppose. Am I right?
Moreover if i land a job in IT industry how much will I be paid per hour as a start after I complete a Canadian course?
Your wife need not be a housewife in Canada. She can get some 9-5 job. You can admit your kid to a daycare where he stays till 5pm and she picks him up after 5pm. It works for most single parents. If you get a proper IT job, you should get 50,000 to 60,000 dollars a year at the beginning.
Hi. Unfortunately you are all correct in what you say. The struggles are there when you emigrate to Canada. I think the people who have the rudest awakening are the people from India who have worked in the Gulf and have made some money and then decide to up sticks and leave. They have something called taxes in Canada, Indian qualifications are not considered on par with Canadian qualifications, language skills and soft skills of these immigrants is usually terrible, most are not prepared for the culture shock and the fact that they are at the bottom of the barrel. This confuses me. When Indians come to the GCC head bobbing they are happy to be abused by Arabs and treated badly and then after “making it” (kissing Arab ass and being prepared to do senior positions for less money than western expatriates) it becomes a problem and its all down to Canada.
My story:
I came from a rural town in Punjab. I used to walk to school and had no English language experience until I went to university in Delhi. I came top in my undergraduate and masters degree and then did an LLB and MBA on scholarship from USA. I came to the GCC and worked my way up and become the CEO of a large Arab company. At 40 I had had enough of being treated like a dirty third class citizen and moved to Canada after getting my immigration sorted. I came with my wife and 6 children and worked all sorts of jobs and it was hard. I never gave up. We rented and focused on my children. I saved every penny and then was able to take a mortgage out on a condo. That changed my life. I began to flip properties and at 60 I own over 30 million Canadian dollars of property outright. No loans. Just hard work and patience. All my children are doctors and are happily married and settled in Canada. My advice is do not give up and stop living in a bubble when you come to Canada. Also remember that 300k is not going to last long and being arrogant and rude and communicating in poor English will make your life harder. Canada is not the land of opportunity. If you are prepared to work damn hard and then some please come. By the way, if anyone needs any further assistance then let me know.
Remember that the only purpose why we are here, is to Eat, Sleep, Reproduce, and to die one day. There’s nothing to achieve, there’s nothing to prove. We all came from nothing, we go back to nothing. Whatever you choose in life let the consequences come and happen, because that is the Truth.
Hi,I am 62, never crossed Bangalore border.Fortunately studied plenty of books related to history economics and culture.Indian society is plagued by manusmridi or manudharma which denied equal rights to the society.People with above mindset moving to western countries from india find it very difficult & not ready to adopt western working culture,which gives equal rights &dignity.
Hello Newsadmin,
I’m working as software engineer in embedded systems, also known as system programming. what is the scope of job opportunities for this field in Toronto?
The IT sector is not bad, but it depends on you age and experience and your willingness to face the initial difficulties like updating your skills to Canadian requirements.
Hello Admin, I have gone through above comments which are not in favour of canada but we are also thinking our profiles are 1.my hubby is 31 year old and mba hr working with very good it company in india as asst.manager. he has abt 6 years of exp. 2.i have done m.com and 4 year s of banking exp.now hommaker as 8 month old baby. 3. We dont have much savings but we owned two appartments in developing city. My hubby’s package is fairly good.shall we apply for pr as fsw list hubby is eligible.pls reply
Two points here.
1) Why do you want to emigrate if your husband is doing well? Life is not all hunky-dory abroad, and don’t trust the NRIs who will never tell the truth.
2) But you guys have age on your side, and you can afford to take risks. So think hard and if you still think that you should go ahead and apply for FSW, then go ahead and be ready for the initial uncertainty, expenses and struggle. FSW will take over a year and by that time your daughter will be about two and she can be put in a daycare in Canada. If you are determined, things will work out.
Thanks Newsadmin 🙂 .
Dear Newsadmin,
I am 40 yrs old married guy with one kid of 4 Yrs.I am in IT and my technical expertise is in DataBase Administration.My total experience is 14 yrs and working for a big MNC in India. I checked my eligibility,I am eligible to file Canadian PR.
My wife (36 yrs age) is also working as MBA degree and working as a Senior PR executive in an event management firm.
Pl advice. Do I proceed with Canadian PR process ??
You guys seem to have the right credentials for Canadian market. But the only point is your age. You are 40. It will take you some years and struggle to get going here. So think hard. If you want to go ahead, play it safe, take a long leave from your job and come here to explore things. Never put all your eggs in one basket.
No. Don’t come. Only come if you want the passport and intend to go work in the USA — which needs you — and not in Canada. If you want to work as a bus driver but never had the chance or an insurance salesman or a real estate agent, then Canada is the place for you. The job market is a tight one, tightly controlled by mason skills – that require certification and diplomas and degrees issued by Canadian institutions. If you have worked with let us say GE in India and then came to Canada, GE Canada will say “you don’t have Canadian experience” and they won’t give you any job even though you may have designed the system they are using. Such a person will be hired at once in the US but not Canada. If you are not coming here with a view to migrating further to the USA, then don’t come. It is really not worth it. I am sure if you tried at your end, you can probably find a way to get into the US on a job on an H-1 visa. Go there if you can and apply from there and not from India. Don’t waste your life. Have a happy life.
Thank you for the prompt response.other thing is how long is the fsw visa immigration process? Also which city is best for choosing a career in cosmetics ingredients marketing? How about the print industry there? We have done our basic research but have received mixed reviews??? Also are the child free education benefits Applicable to immigrants? We understand the struggle we will have to go thru at the beginning but we are ready for it. We have been served everything on a silver platter till date,which is not digestable to us now. Hence we have taken this decision to carve our destiny.
The FSW process takes over a year. As for a career in cosmetics ingredients marketing, all provinces are ok. Western Canada (Alberta and British Columbia) are doing much better than Ontario.
Hello friend
I was reading your article and just could not resist to write to you. Things might be monotonous here but you can always consider to expand or change your business. Keep so many things in mind – i.e. if you go to canada you may not be able to attend the funerals of your so many dear ones. You might be making good money but in your lifetime you may not call yourself as rich. Here in India you can afford to hire a helper but you can’t think about it there, the psyche of your children would also be different then you. In India children are there to help the parents but in Canada they may move out after growing up, the list goes on.
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Guys, am 30, me and my wife are planning to migrate to Canada. We have a good set up of biz. here back in our home country. We are self-employed basically. It is just that the work has become very monotonous and very routine.
We feel age is a no bar, but according to our family, it is!!
My basic question to the room is that, is it sensible to leave well established biz and hunt for a new job or start writing a new chapter altogether?? And how is the job scenario market as far as immigrants are concerned, are they preferred??
There are two things in your case. Age is on your side and yes life sometimes become monotonous and you want change. But on the other side, you are established with a good biz. Frankly, our advice to you is this: There is no harm in making a change because you are young. You can retrain and get some jobs but it will take some time and expenses. Barring retail jobs, the employment scene in Canada is NOT bright. Even if you both get jobs, they may not be paying you much.If you don’t have kids, that’s good because both of you can work. But at the same time, it doesn’t make any sense to close well established business and move to another country simply because others are going or you hear all those stories about Canada, America, etc, which are not true. But if you have made up your mind to come to Canada, then don’t close your biz. Come here and explore. If you are successful in finding jobs or starting some biz, only then close your biz back in home country. The good thing is that age is on your side.
Hi, I am 40 and so as my wife. We have two kids of 10 and 6. We have over $ 200K savings. We plan to move to Winnipeg area as my wife has been accepted to study 2 years business administration course at a college. Currently I have a good job and I make approx. US$ 65K a year. Do you think at our age we can establish ourselves well in Canada? I understand I may not find a great job there; in fact, I would want to start some small business in a small city (not willing to live in big cities) in the future. Do you think if my wife gets her diploma from a Canadian college at the age of 42, will she be able to find a job there? The principal purpose to move to Canada is to ensure that children get better quality education. Please share your thought. Thanks!
Considering your age and your huge savings, we recommend that you carefully weigh your options.
1) You say you want to move to Canada for your children’s education. Yes, they will have access to good education. But mind you, one is already 10, and once he goes to college it will cost you a lot or he will have to take a student loan. Frankly, it will be a better option if you send them for higher college/degree education to Canada.
2) You say your wife has been accepted for a two-year business administration course in Winnipeg. That’s fine and she get her degree. The university/college make money, but will she get the job? There are no guarantees and it happens to tons of immigrants and they get frustrated and some even leave.
3) The major point for you to consider is that you are making good money and have a huge amount of savings. You are taking a big risk because small business may succeed or not. It takes a few years. You are at the prime of your life and you have comfortable life back home in Bolivia.These years should be spend without tensions. But once you are in Winnipeg, you will have tons of tensions to deal with. These will impact your family life. We have seen this thing happening to so many families. Nobody immigration consultant or officer will tell you these realities.
The best course of action for you will be to accompany your wife without resigning your job (if you have one) or closing your business. Take a long leave, come here and explore your options for six/nine months. If things work out for you and you feel comfortable being in Canada, then take the next step. We have cases similar to yours. Couples came here at the age of 40 after leaving well-paying job in their countries. Husbands couldn’t establish themselves and they went back after three/four years, leaving their wives and children back in Canada. It is terrible for families because children get to see their dad ONLY once a year. Family life is not worth wasting.
Hi..I’m 38 years old from India, married and have one son of 6 years old. I have a Chartered Financial Analyst from USA having 15 years of experience in Equity Research. I’m thinking of moving to Canada and I have applied for PR. Please give me any suggestions. Thanks in advance.
The CFA is a great qualification, but not all people do well in Canada with this degree. Anyways, since you have made up your mind, go ahead and you will find something.
It’s really a nice and useful piece of information. I am glad that you just shared
this helpful information with us. Thank you for sharing.
Hi, i’m 20 and I’ve planned to pursue my higher education( masters in electricals)in canada. after reading all these comments I’m quite confused, how’s the job prospects in electrical and computer industry in Canada ?.(I have plans for studying and working there & also I do have the thoughts of settling in canada)
The age is on your side. Give it a try. But this comment has been posted from Mountain View, California. So why not try the US?
Hi,
What if I get a job and then move to Canada? I am an SAP Technical consultant with Global SAP Certification. Would it be easy for me? Your discussion has got me all worried now.
Best Regards.
Just wait for a couple of days for a detailed response about your chances in Canada with this kind of qualifications. We will seek views from those who are already connected to SAP here.
We spoke to someone we has worked with SAP in Toronto in the past. He says this: Many folks with similar qualification who moved to Canada, unfortunately have to struggle like any other job here. The reasons are no different from any other technical job. And these reasons are: The certification is done in India and not in Canada, secondly, lack of Canadian experience.
His recommendation to you is this: Research and find SAP consultant community groups in Canada on LinkedIn or, Online (specific to his specialty area) and start networking to understand what help he can expect and who can help getting to the right opportunity upon his arrival.
Hi, I am 30 and my spouse is 26, we both are well settled in our biz of Printing industry & Cosmetic industry respectively and doing grt equally. We are planning to migrate to Canada with the action plan – Study for a year or two in our respective specializations i.e. Marketing in or Entrepreneurship, Work and settle.
We want to basically move for a better future for our child, after we start planning for the same.
Please guide me as to how is the plan that we have mentioned above. Also, after having so much of experience in our respective biz, will the same help here in Canada, if we start small?
Or according to you, job is a better option with such a background?
Please guide.
Regards.
Mostly people migrating to Canada or the US,etc, say that they are moving for the sake of their children. But basically they have their own itch to live in the western world. Nothing wrong with that. But if you are well established in your business back home, why don’t you send your child for higher education? It is not difficult for students to get PR in Canada these days. Well, on the other side, you guys are a young couple. So no harm in trying something new in life. But don’t close your businesses when you come here. Calgary, Edmonton will be much better cities for compared to other cities because Alberta province is doing better than other Canadian provinces.
SAP has good demand, but competition is high due to outsourcing, so there are many people in local market who came in TFW program for consulting firms like IBM, Accenture, TCS and trying to settle down in CIC/FSW category. Having said that, there is good chance if you know new technologies rather than just traditional ABAP program, like PI, WF, BPM etc. and good command in English, if you don’t have much exposure in newer tech then at least you should have USA work experience working. If you have demanding skills, you maybe able to get the job even before landing here in Canada (rare though). As far as certification goes, I disagree to “Newsadmin”, SAP certificate is global n still valid in Canada, exam process is same wherever you appear and it’s SAP, AG, Germany who certifies it not India. In fact, nobody really cares about certificate unless you are interested in Govt. Job in Ottawa (new immigrants are not eligible anyway, you need to have security clearance), what is important here in Canada for IT job in Canada apart from core technical skill, is soft skill like presentation, team work etc.
Good market for SAP is Calgary, Montreal (language may be a barrier, high competition n low wage), Toronto (high competition, low wage), upcoming market Regina (Saskatoon) n few jobs in Halifax.
If you are young, I think you should try, maybe you have to start with low salary range, but eventually after adding couple of years of local experience, you will be in better place.
The problem with immigrants these days is that they are intitled, they believe that Canada OWES them something, they come here thinking Canada is going to serve them up everything on a silver platter, a lot of them come here and go on welfare, not for my generation, my grandparents came to Canada in the late 60’s when they got here they worked hard and actually contributed to Canada, the Italians, Portuguese etc are known for their contributions of building and construction of many cities in Canada, the Italian immigrants built the entire subway systems in Toronto for example.
They came here knowing that Canada didn’t owe them anything, they owed Canada something for giving them an opportunity to live in this great country. Today these immigrants come and expect Canada is going to hand them good jobs and high wages. Work for it! you owe it to Canada!
Dear Newsadmin,
Could you please address the below one. Thanks for your anticipation.
Looking at all experiences shared above, it could be a toughest moment for anyone willing to relocate to CANADA or Australia as I’m being one of them.
Very much appreciated if you might want to provide some assistance on following queries as it may play a crucial step in my life to decide whether to go to Canada or any other country.
1) I’m a graduate in Mechanical engineering having 6+ yrs of experience in IT (Mainframe/Manual testing), and my category would fall under 2173 occupation code of FSW program, so are there enough opportunities in the same skills (Manual testing) mentioned above? What could be toughest situation in finding a job in same profession (Please provide references in the area of IT only)
2) Well the other fact is that, I’m ready to work in any non-skilled job as long as it paying more when compared with earning in India. So therefore, is it the admirable truth that even I choose a job which is out of my profession, my earnings would be more or same as like in professional job? Please clarify the same.
3) I could see the comments which are underpinned by the others as well that, we should or must upgrade our skill set to compete with other migrants or Canadians to get through the job. So the query arise is, what so ever the fact is, why would the government grant PR’s to such skilled persons where they don’t have sufficient sources to accommodate? It could be the trap or deceive the situation.
4) Currently I’m at a position of finding consultancy in India who can extend the support on PR processing, if anyone come across such a well-known consultancy who could be given more trust, please pass on the same.
5) Also, which country would be the best for IT guys whether Canada, Australia, Dubai, New Zealand or any, please pass on the inputs.
Any references in this regard, will be a more of help. Kindly assist me to decide further as I don’t want to ruin my life by dreaming the facts which are actually doesn’t exist at all.
Regards,
Srikanth.
Hello Everyone,
Looking at all experiences shared above, it could be a toughest moment for anyone willing to relocate to CANADA or Australia as I’m being one of them.
Very much appreciated if anyone might want to provide some assistance on following queries as it may play a crucial step in my life to decide whether to go to Canada or any other country.
1) I’m a graduate in Mechanical engineering having 6+ yrs of experience in IT (Mainframe/Manual testing), and my category would fall under 2173 occupation code of FSW program, so are there enough opportunities in the same skills (Manual testing) mentioned above? What could be toughest situation in finding a job in same profession (Please provide references in the area of IT only)
2) Well the other fact is that, I’m ready to work in any non-skilled job as long as it paying more when compared with earning in India. So therefore, is it the admirable truth that even I choose a job which is out of my profession, my earnings would be more or same as like in professional job? Please clarify the same.
3) I could see the comments which are underpinned by the others as well that, we should or must upgrade our skill set to compete with other migrants or Canadians to get through the job. So the query arise is, what so ever the fact is, why would the government grant PR’s to such skilled persons where they don’t have sufficient sources to accommodate? It could be the trap or deceive the situation.
4) Currently I’m at a position of finding consultancy in India who can extend the support on PR processing, if anyone come across such a well-known consultancy who could be given more trust, please pass on the same.
5) Also, which country would be the best for IT guys whether Canada, Australia, Dubai, New Zealand or any, please pass on the inputs.
Any references in this regard, will be a more of help. Kindly assist me to decide further as I don’t want to ruin my life by dreaming the facts which are actually doesn’t exist at all.
Thanks all in advance.
Srikanth.
Hi Newsadmin,
Firstly sorry to hear about the author’s ordeal. Must be very tough, but I can’t help but wonder why isn’t she coming back? What’s keeping her there after she has faced so much? I guess we will have to wait for her answers..
As for me, I m a web n graphic designer with 9 years of experience and my wife is a HR professional with the same amount of exp. We have recently applied for Canada PR. Just wanted your thoughts on job prospects in both the fields. And whether we would have to do any certificate course or something upon coming there. Also which province has better prospects for both the fields.
Thanks in advance for your time n help.
Aman
Guessing that you guys are below 35, you will find something in your fields – web & graphic designing and HR. Maybe you may to have take some courses. But that shouldn’t be a problem because you can do such courses part-time. But again if you are very well-settled wherever you are now, just think hard before taking any decision.
if u have given a try it was worth it keep it up. may the good times follow you all brave people.
Sure, I am very concerned about spending a good amount of money with someone (probably a law firm) in order to help us out filling the application, building the BP etc and then after some years being rejected by the Province.
We are not applying for the federal program, only for Provincial one, so basically we would really like to know how long is might take to be accepted as an immigrant. We dont know if this counts much, but we both (me and my partner) are around 40 years old and have a family who would be going with us. We both have more than 800k CAD in net worth if that counts too…
We will post when we hear from experts about your concerns.
Thats what I imagined. I have a partner who would settle the company with me in BC, so most probably we both would apply for the regional settings investing each 200k CAD.
Do you have any idea how hard it has been for effectively being called in this option?
Can you please clarify your question in detail?
Newsadmin, I forgot to mention our intention is not Startup visa, but the Provincial Business Program. We know Startup is for newly graduated ones which is not our case, rather we intend to apply either for that 200k BP regional (includes Abbotsford and others) program or even the Vancouver itself (400k)
Edward, we spoke with a couple of experts in Toronto who are into software business in Ontario, and they say BC is the best place for you because the BC government itself and many huge companies there are big buyers of software services and products.
Newsadmin, good news thanks for your post (such a quick reply). I just wonder why age should count negatively in my case since i (and my company partner, who is also a 40s) intend to develop a company, not get a job. Sure we both have our families, but we do have savings for this attempt.
However I am much concerned about how hard is to make business in Canada (particularly in BC), selling softwares services/produtcs, for what I have read so far it seems to have shortage in this sector…me and my partner we are not looking for jobs, so does age count anyway?
We will post a reply very soon after talking to experts who are selling software services and products in BC.
newsadmin, i have read all comments, looks pretty scary for those chasing a dreams job 🙁 I just wonder if that also applies to IT sector, in terms of re-qualifying all over again in Canada.
Anyhow my intention on going to Canada is to build (rebuild) my own business. I am 40 years old and I have just sold my IT company down here in Brazil. Now I would like to settle a new operation in Canada, to sell IT Saas software either to canadian companies or down here to Brasil, hiring local canadian employees.
Does it make any sense to you whatsoever?
Glad to hear from you, since we have had different opinions so far…
Edward, IT and financial sectors in Canada are the ones which offer scope if you come here at the right age and you are ready to get credentials upgraded as required. It is not necessary that you have to re-qualify all over again. Since you seem to have a plan in your mind after selling your IT company in Brazil, you can take a chance. As for the age factor, we have already said that if an immigrant is over 35-40, it will be tough for him/her. If you have a family, the best thing for you will be to come here alone and survey the scene and then decide.
Hi Hana,
I have a question about gulf.Someone with 3years of finance experience and MBA degree in India. How can they approach for a job in Gulf?
Thanks
I think Australia is way better than Canada. I haven’t heard such scary stories from Australian immigrant. Is it Indian subcontinent people face problems ?
No Sir, I also thought so like you. I have my ex-colleague, went to Sydney, waited for 4 months without a job and came back to India.
Hi Newsadmin,
I(34 y/o) m basically electrical engineer and having 15 years of industrial experience, right now am associated with walmart in india and posted as assistant manager,
I am married and and having 2 children, one is started schooling,
I m having dream to be settle in Canada or Newzealand, and now applying for PR.
Plz suggest me about Canada, job opportunity there? Which city? What will cost of living with family,
What salary is given there for my kind of professional,
Your reply will be admirable,
Thanks
Siddharth, speaking about your field, it doesn’t matter how many years of industrial experience you may have in India. You will have to update your education in Canada and then be ready to start at the bottom. Most starting salaries for locally qualified engineering professionals are in the range of 40,000 -60,000. Since you are young, you may think of earning some (other) degree here. That’s possible if you have savings, or you get some loan. Remember even if your spouse gets some job, it won’t be enough. If you are ready to do any job, then you will manage something in the retail sector that will help you keep going. But once you uproot yourself, it takes a few years to settle in a foreign land. The best age to immigrate is below 35. You are already there. So decide quickly. You can choose Toronto (which include cities like Brampton, Mississauga where Indians live in large number), Vancouver (surrounding cities such as Surrey, Delta, Richmond which have huge Indian populations) or Calgary. Lots of Indians are now going to Calgary, and most new immigrants today prefer western Canada (British Columbia, Alberta). The minimum cost of your family of four will be $2,000-2,500.
Hi News Admin, thank you very much for your time and effort in replying to my queries. I will certainly go as per ur brilliant advise. You are doing a great job here… keep up the good work. If you ever need any info about Kuwait, then please feel free to get in touch. Will be glad to help. God bless you. Good luck!
Hi Newsadmin,
Thanks for your response. I have few more queries below –
1.How much would be household expenses for a family of three?
2.How much would be school cost for a 5 year old kid? What kind of schools do they have?
3.Is it cheaper to rent a 2 BHK apartment or a house?
4.Is rent cheaper in areas that has Indian community?
5.We may register with recruitment agencies to have a job offered first before moving into the country? Is this is a right approach?
6.Are there any jobs for Operations services supervisor in retail operations like Fashion or Cosmetics?
7.Is it safe to leave your kid with a baby sitter?
8.Is it advisable for my husband to visit the Country first, get settled, find apartment and then bring his family?
I would be grateful for your advice as we have no one in Canada and are completely relying on forum responses. Thanks, have a great day!
Hana, the best thing for you guys will be this: Your husband should not resign his job.He should take leave and come here alone. He should live here for some time and see things for himself. If he is sure that things will work out, then you and your son can join him. We have seen many new immigrants quitting their jobs in their countries and landing in Canada with their entire families. They hunt for jobs, take up new courses, and soon their whole money that they brought is gone, and they are left with no choice. To your questions:
1) As for your household expenses, you will need about $2,000 to $2,500 per month. House rent will cost you a minimum of anything from $700/800 (if you rent a basement) to $ 1000/1400 (2 bedrooms) per month. Car will cost $500-$700 (with lease, gas and insurance). And then your groceries (maybe $500 a month).
2) Child education should be no problem at all.
3) Explained above.
4) Rents are not any cheaper in Indian areas, but you can get basement easily there.
5) You can register with various job agencies like Acces when you get your PR here.
6) Frankly, if you find some jobs in your area of specialty, first you have to update your skills with Canadian education, and then you may have to start at the bottom. So be realistic.
7) Baby sitter will cost you a lot. You will have day care centres for your child. They are cheap and world class.
Hi Newsadmin,
We are based in Middle for the last 10 years. Recently, my husband (38 years) qualified as IT system analyst for Canada under federal skilled worker program. I have a kid of 5 years. We have been working in the Middle East for so long and have not made much in terms of savings or investment. Whatever savings we have are enough to apply for Canadian PR and survive till a job is offered. Can you advise whether it is worth moving to Canada? Will be grateful for your advise.
Thank you for your story. I have been delaying moving to Canada, trying to get a job before making the move. It has been 2.5 years, and now i am about to loose my residency (days lived in Canada), not been successful in my applications, and i was debating whether to just migrate without a job – and job hunt on ground. You story provided some insight on the reality on ground. I am single, no kids in my late 30s, working in the middle east, good position, have invested well back home, and just wanted the opportunity to get a ‘strong’ passport.
I have completed Bsc/nursing with 1.6 years of work exp..planning to write ielts and start PR process..after reading the whole stories written right up there..will i be able to make a career in Canada..planing to get my hubby with me..
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Hi..
I’m Nithin 22 year guy from India,Kerala.completed my diploma course in mechanical engg.I love to immigrate canada but there is lot of commented negative reviews.is there any hope for me in Canada….
Nithin, you have to upgrade your education here if you want to work in your field. But if you are ready to do any job, then will find one which will take care of your basic needs. You can try your luck because you are young.
Hi guys thanks for the insight. I`m a 24 y/o male from SA (IT Professional). I am considering emigrating for 5 years possibly permanently. My choices have always been Canada and New Zealand. After reading this I am now sure New Zealand would be the best option for me even though cost of living is slightly higher.
I am going to put PR file for Canada and want to live my life over there.
can anyone mail me and advice me ??
there are no relatives of mine over there in canada…
Punit.
Hi Punit. this is prasanna. you have posted this 3 months back. r u really going t canada for job. i am also planning to apply PR in canada. can u pls guide me
Yes it is true, guys please do not listen to immigration agents they fool you. I myself have migrated to Canada and I have seen, it is not only people from India, I have seen most of the nationalities they stay in apartments and while going they throw their stuff out and go. It is very difficult to find ordinary job only, and the weather is my God, don’t even think of it. Please it is better to be in your own country than to migrate here. If you guys are plannning to start your own business, then there is no point, as there are already No Frills, Walmarts, Freshco and many other giant stores which have captured all the business. So please don’t even think of migrating, I was thinking why there is no posts on internet about migration, as i have experienced a lot.
Hi guys. I just want to encourage you all to try and find peace wherever you are and to make the best of all your experiences. There is absolutely no perfect place to be and happiness is ultimately a state of mind and how we interpret our experiences.
I moved here to the UK with my husband and infant child 13 yrs ago, in search of the good life. We soon found out that we had all that we needed back home. But once you have uprooted, it’s hard to go back.
I think we can be quite ungrateful sometimes because there are people back home who would give everything for the free education and free medical that we take for granted. My husband hates his job as a teacher and I feel trapped by my religious community and feel like moving which is why I ended up on this site. With 3 children, I now know it’s not the right thing to do.
Reading all your comments makes me realize that we might be chasing something that doesn’t even exist.
Enjoy your children and your family, and while you are chasing the good life don’t forget to live.
I respect that Clo, very true!!!
We are all making silly utterances and throwing stones on one another. Why cant we talk about our countries of Origin. Those who have made it in the West can hardly make so much noise as some of us are doing here. No matter how much you earn if you are a bad manager the money will never be the enough. And remember financial sufficiency is relative depending on our goals so stop judging someone who is doing nothing but trying to regret a path he took
Hi,
Our family of four moved to Canada in 2008 from Chennai. My blog has everything about our move, all our experiences and how Canada is.
Thanks!
Hi i want to read all about it. what is the url of your blog.
Can you share your blog address please?
Thanks
Hi we are also from chennai and planning to migrate will you please advise. Thanks
Dubai to Canada?? at your age who advised you. Many middle age western professionals from Canada and Australia move to Dubai to earn tax free income so they can afford good education for their children in any part of the world. You were in Dubai, you didn’t see those westerners people in their 40’s living in jumerah villas and apartment and their kids driving expensive sports car and families sleeping on beach facing villas. Go back to Dubai or india, and send your kids to Canada for education when they are old enough. White country should be the last place Indians should think of migrating, whatever claims my American Indians friends make of good life its all nonsense.
Brother, do you know the situation of Indian professional in Middle East? Whites are getting 10 times the pay that Indian professional get. so, just dont compare the life of Indians with Whites in Dubai.
An Indian coming from india to ME will get 10$ an hour, but Indian coming from west to ME will get 100$ an hour. do your math buddy.
Plus, Whites have privileges that even the local Arabs dont have in Arab countries.
Indians in Middle East is only because of proximity to India & good savings. otherwise the racism is like at its peak. Indian professionals have to work for their Arab colleagues.
Plus Dubai is not a long term solution. you and your family have to go back to India after 10-20 years. elsewhere you can become a citizen after giving your life time.
Good job Hardworking! Come to Canada then and make $11 per hour. But you have to pay $2.20 as taxes. On the other hand your children will enjoy excellent schooling, clean, fresh air and some of the best water on the planet. You will also get very good healthcare. There are parks and recreation spots. The people are friendly, caring and helpful and the safety levels are unbelievable. Libraries are free and you can borrow films in dozens of languages from them. As long as you do not care about such things as quality of job or how much money you don’t have, this is one of the best countries in the world to live in. By the way its also colder than hell.
Baber: i have read couple of your statements. you are very anti-canada. $11/hr is not the norm of a good job. if you actually stayed and upgraded yourself, you would have seen that.
first, just do an engineering degree and your starting salary will be $40/hr. so what are you talking about? it sounds like you did nothing in the time you were here. i mean you didnt spend money and if you dont do that, dont expect anything in return.
second, you talk about taxes like its a sin. the freaking ME is wasting their oil money and they are dumbasses. everybody knows that. the norm of a society is to run on taxes cause if govt gives you money, courtesy is you should contribute back to society. all those things you just mentioned thats good about canada just proved you wrong…..kudos! thats equality in life and good quality. not just making money and showing off your pakistani culture. there is nothing good to show off
learn what HDI is in calculating progressiveness of a country. dubai has none of them.
Hi all i am 30 years old i m from india chennai. I am looking for migration. I have enough saveings. I am interested to business or good jobs. Let any one guide me. I wish go to euorpe country if saud also okay.
If any one have idea or contacts or suggestion?
Thanks all
Takecare 🙂
Thank You Author.
I know there are some prograns at the university that allows you to work they are named CO OP, attending to this programs you might get canadian and experience education, this might help
sad story,it is real sad to hear getting nowhere after 4 years struggling and spending all life saving,but despite all tragic side of story,it is not shocking or unexpectable result that can be called “getting NOWHHERE”, it is just a probable destiny for big part of immigrants. and best response for it ,would be either giving up and return to origin country,or accept and change lifestyle and get along with it,without complaining.i myself used to have a very good position in my origin country and also my wife was working for a high rank company in a very good position,we left all and came to canada not for getting wealth or good job,because we already had all before,we just want to escape from somethings always bothering us in our origin country,pollution,corruption,religius pressure,so many social and cultural struggle,and now we we feel good despite all problems we are facing in canada,because we living in a country with high rank of civil rights,good school for our child,green and clean nighberhood for ourself far from pollution and any social and cultural struggles,immigration is the biggest deal of our life,we left many things to get some other things that were in our priority list in life,and we think we got it,so thanks canada.
I have a 21 year old son got his degree in Bsc in Hospitality. Wants to work as Front Office executive. Could anybody guide me to know if there are any options in Canada for him to migrate. Though I read the negatives. Please reply
There are jobs in hospitality in this country as tourism is a major source of revenue. But again, unless you are qualified from local educational institutions, you will have difficulty in getting a job. They will ask you to take Canadian courses or ask for Canadian experience. But your son is very young, and he can give it a try. However, people should not do things simply because others are doing. If someone has a settled job in India, it is not advisable to migrate. And don’t believe the stories of your neighbours who have gone abroad. Most people tell lies.
Send your son here. He is young to pursue a canadian degree. He will do well. It is a good time to send kids to Canada & USA after 12 Std (Grade 12). Parents should stay back in their own country. Too much hardship for people not educated here.
i got a job of a teacher in a play school. i was really very happy that finally i got a teaching job bt wen i started working they asked me to change the diapers of toddlers. clean the tables, clean their noses,wash their bibs,broom and mop the floor, clean the windowpanes. it is so frustrating. now its nt easy to go back to india leaving behind everything. life sucks.
Really i got laugh…. sorry to say this i enjoyed. Ur each words. U describe. Any how be happy. Make work hard. Takecare. If any good job is tgere let me know okay
Thanks
Sonia, the sad situation is that most of these play schools or child care centres have been opened by people from India/Pakistan who have made good money in the Middle East and have come here as business immigrants, especially in Oakville,Mississauga, Milton areas. They are the ones who under pay and treat teachers in the way you describe, making them to things like cleaning etc and then telling them this is how things work in Canada. If you have an Ece from Canada, apply to the school boards. Our own people are mistreating us, not the Canadians
You last statement hits it home.
its been 6 months i am in canada but it is really very frustrating
The author, and others commenting, are saying that they had to take low-paying jobs that were a hit on their self-esteem. I suspect that they are high up in the caste system in India, which many in the high ranks enthusiastically support.
I am immigrating to Canada, I am educated, and I do not feel that any job is beneath me; I have done it all. I know that it may be a while before I can get something good. The sense of entitlement of this author and some of the people on here is unbelievable. There are millions of poor in India who would love to work and live in Canada, even if that means working low-paying and low status jobs.
to Ella…don’t forget that majority of people immigrating to canada came from the middle countries where they used to have a much less hard lives and well paid and with such high managerial position as well
Ella, it depends on what situation you are in your country. If u r living in a slum, struggling to get 2-time food, then Canada is good place for u to work and live. If u have enjoyed quality life in your country, then Canada is not the place for you, as hardship is there. All Cnadian grass is not green.
Ella
May I know your nationality please
Don’t tell me you are also Philippians !,,,
You & Your. Rich. Country Philippines
Real hypocrites
Excuse me Ella, if you are, what you are saying, you are educated, you are not supposed to judge people based on your just a little knowledge. The people of the Philippines are called Filipinos and not Philippians and we are not hypocrites. Maybe you have met some hypocrite Filipinos but not all the citizens of the Philippines are like them. Just like in your own country, not all of them are as judgmental like you. we have different personalities and different attitudes. If you have problems with some Filipinos, please dont take it against the entire Filipinos. GOD bless you.
philippines is richer than india for sure. i love asian girls and i will always give them job over indians. Thats connection
shut up sherali
Ella
Let me give a peice of advice. Mr. Canada. You call yourself educated, but first learn English or write in your borrowed language which is half English.
Sherali, being an Indian I dont agree with you.You may have seen the part of Philippines who dont have proper education and or cant speak good English. Is that not the case in India too? Have we not borrowed the same language? Dont we accept that English is the universal language?
The debate here is Canada, not Indians, Filipinos or any other nationality.
Mr. Sherali,
Your English & your IQ needs an upgrade.
Please stop projecting Indians bad with your stupid comments & this is not the forum to show your hatred to a certain community.
Ella> I also migrated there with a willingness to take any job. I decided I would even work as a janitor and applied for those jobs as well. But the reality is that most jobs require some kind of certification or diploma from a Canadian institute. The easiest jobs – maybe the only ones – are in sales. If you are lucky after you have been there for a year or so you could become a security guard or a taxi driver — 90% of the taxi drivers in Canadian cities are engineers. Even if you get Canadian experience you cant go from a sales job or security guard to working as a janitor or an accounts cleric without a Canadian diploma. All this takes time and by the time you have got a proper job you are so tired of struggling you just settle down to enjoy what you have and give up on any ambitions you may have had. That is what happens to most people. They forget their dreams and settle for whatever they have after so many years.
Well, I think that the people who point out how tough it can be are right — there is no country in the world where it is ‘easy’ to get started as an outsider, with foreign credentials, accents, educations, etc. Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the U.S. are probably the easiest — don’t even think about Europe. But it’s still hard, and many struggle.
The people who should come are the people who want to be Canadian — who come here for the education, the health care, for their children to grow up here, in other words, for the society and the government. If this is what you want, you will get it — there is no failure, Canada accepts you and you can survive. However . . . if you are a middle-class professional, and maybe you come from a place where status is important, and you might not rise any higher at work or your neighbor’s travel a lot, and you think to yourself: “I think I’ll immigrate and succeed even more in Canada” . . . You have an excellent chance of failing. Success, or status, are never assured, and you are emigrating for the wrong reasons.
Simply put, emigrating for status is silly — emigrating to Canada to become a Canadian is wonderful. I came here for both reasons, and when it was tough for my first year, the fact that I wanted my kid and wife to be Canadian kept me going. When I wanted a good job, that made it harder. I was lucky and got the good job in the end, but when I was trying for one I came to understand that such a desire was a mistake.
Beautifully written, it was pure reading pleasure. Philosophically, what you say is true regarding the intent of immigration. In reality, most people emigrate for economic reasons. This has been true since the very beginning on human migration. The second generation of the family though is born and brought up in the new country and has a completely different native born mindset.
Job hunting is never easy anywhere but the importance of Canadian experience in finding a job is quite surprising and is understated in so many Canadian immigration forums I have visited. I was very close to migrating to Canada (with the same dreams that so many have mentioned) but it did not work out due to many reasons. I do not know whether to feel happy or sad about it after reading all that is written here.
Nick
You’ve put it together very aptly.
I’m 47 in business in India, doing good but i want to migrate to Canada & start a business, mainly for the reasons you’ve mentioned above.
would you recommend
Can an immigrant start a business in Canada with ease
How are other immigrants who have started their businesses doing (if you know any)
I’m a supply chain specialist
please advise
Hey guys, read a lot on the topic… But guess many people including me are still exploring the option to move to Canada… Obviously I won’t without a job in hand…but would like to know the feedback on IT related sales job options in Canada… I have more than 15 years of experience and am doing extremely good in India… Views plase
We don’t know your age and family situation – whether you have children. But if you are doing extremely well in India, why do you want to move to Canada? Frankly, if you are above 40, you should not uproot yourself. Yeah, there are IT-related sales jobs in Canada, but you have to land here first and then start looking for jobs. But the problem is wherever you will apply they will ask for Canadian experience and qualifications. Even if you get something, it will be at the bottom and you will be frustrated. However, if you are ready to take the plunge, then come here but don’t resign your job in India. Try for 6 to 9 months here, and if you get something, then you will be okay. Possibly, don’t bring your whole family with you. Only when you are settled,bring them here.
News admin,ur views are very practical.
I have 20 years of experience on Directors level in SA and have qualified years ago as a chartered accountant in Canada. I have several designations and qualifications. Go to Australia – more work there and much less discrimination that here. Canadians are a bit arrogant – they think they are light years ahead of the rest of the World and your international experience will count for nothing here.
I m Living in China and into restaurant business here. I have a daughter and she is studing in Shanghai. The main reason for migrating to Canada is Education and good life for my daughter. Any suggestions will be very noble. Thanks
Since you don’t have any specialization job and you want to stick to the restaurant business, then you will be okay because there are more than 600,000 Indians in the Greater Toronto Area alone. So come to Canada with lots of money and start your own restaurant business. But finding a job is a bit tough unless you are willing to do anything at a minimum wage. In terms of education and quality of life, Canada is very good. But you need to earn money to have that quality of life.
Stay in China. Things are much better there – I promise you that. There are no opportunities here for your daughter. Sad, but true.
Don’t listen to this stupid guy. He is probably a racist too like many White Canadians. COme to Canada.
You are an idiot. What the person is saying is true. Canada is a rat hole and a dead end. I am looking an exit root.
Dear Girish
If you have not made the decision to move to Canada, since it is almost 1 year since you posted this,I would advice NOT to move to Canada. I know many of my friends who are in Dubai. They immigrated and could not sustain themselves there and came back to dubai. Do not waste your hard earned money. If possible, put your daughter in India for good education. It is much more better option. In my opinion, Canada is not what it is purported to be. Hope this helps
Any suggestions, if I am planning to move to Canada and start my own business??
I advise not to do!
They won’t let you in because of their stupid networking!
I know someone who lost 1 million dollar and came back home half paralyzed of an heart attack!
I am happy in my home country. Every day parties, birthdays, weddings celebrations, I am having a blast . Life is short . Live it to your maximum. Why the move .
come to canada and work work work
Hello.. First of all im from a diferent culture so my point of view difer alittle fron yours..i can see that most of you were wealthy people back in india.. Wich is good but well when you move to a diferent country without having a job offer i belive that is foolish to think that people in that country are going to treat you with the resoect you got in india after maybe 30 years of living in india and pluss the inherited respect that your family have in india, because in this new country no one care if u were a queen or king or what ever title or position u had in ur former country.. In this new country ur just another unemployed that look diferent for them and they may be afraid of you and your culture…what i think is that you want ur life to be transfer from india to the us or canada but with better salary…well i guess that is imposible because in the us or canada u will have to earn it (respect,trust,education,etc) pluss u will be seen all ur life like a foreigner. So if u dont have anything in india atleast h will have something in the us but if u are some one in india u will be no one in the us because here u are starting from 0
Yup,You are right. Education always helps guys.
If you are no one you can become someone in the US. But if you are no one you can always become no one in Canada. That subtle difference says it all. The best thing you can do is to get your passport and go and work in some country you like more. Nowadays for example there are a lot of very highly paid jobs for Canadian passport holders in Qatar.
well guys i was thinking to immigrate to canada but after reading your comments i dont know if its a good dessision to take i am a tecknician in climatisation and handymen,married with 4 kids, my wife is a chimiste teacher. anyone can truly give us advice about immigrating to canada.i live in lebanon middle east the only thing i am missing here is the future for my kids,email me pls [email protected] any advice can be helpfull thanks .
If you are above 40 years of age and have a settled job, then probably you should NOT even think of immigration because you will have to do new courses here, then send applications and then wait for response. Every employer will ask for Canadian experience. Soon all your money will run out and this create problems for you and your family. Even if you get something, you will have to start from the bottom.
But if you are willing to do anything with minimum wages and willing to sacrifice everything, then go ahead. But remember, you daily struggle pay bills will leave you time to live decent life. Many immigrants come here, spend all their money and then go back to their native country after getting frustrated.
If you finally decide to immigrate, don’t resign your job. Take leave, come here and then see if things work out for you.
Hi I am planning to migrate in to Canada. I don’t know its a good decision or not. I am 27 old Indian. I have 2 year of experience in admin in my country. I am a MBA holder from England. Will canadians accept my England MBA. I am seeking your advise.
Yes, Canada will accept your MBA from England, but it depends upon you. Frankly, many MBAs (with these degrees from England and India) we have met recently in Toronto are doing just ordinary jobs – like bank tellers. One Indian who is his thirties with an MBA from England too was earning just basic salary till he joined a diagnostic clinic. So if you are settled in India, think hard before taking a decision because there are so many opportunities in that country. But then age is on your side. If you are not married, you can try Canada. If it doesn’t work, you can always go back. Moreover, if you are willing to do any job in Canada, you will find something.
Nope, you will have to have your degree evaluated by the University of Toronto and they will issue you a equivalent certificate.
I used to work for Agrium, a big chemical/fertilizer manufacturing company in NA, head quarter Calgary, there are couple of Indian guys in HR with foreign degrees, as far as I remember one came straight from UK with UK-MBA n experience got the job. I see most of the commentators here are from Toronto, maybe situation there is different, but in Calgary it’s definitely better. I don’t say there is no challenge as many Canadian locals do believe immigrants steal their job, but I can say Calgary story is different than Toronto. One commentator here said, even 2nd generation Canadians don’t get job. I am not sure about their education background n what type of job they are looking for, but I can bet many 2nd generation Canadians do have executive jobs in Calgary across different Industry, Rail, Construction, Management consulting etc. Even people who immigrated in student visa, many of them settled with good job.
No sir your degree is not useful for finding a job in Canada..sorry for the truth!!!
Who is easier to get a job in Canada? The following is the ones who are easier:
(1) Locally born
(2) Have local experiences all along
(3) Have connection (someone work in your field or prospective employer to say good words about you)
(4) White
Who are more difficult:
(1) Foreign born
(2) Have foreign experiences
(3) No connection at all
(4) Races other than White
So if Bill Gates come to Canada to work, he most likely will be barred from the Canadian experience hurdle
Harvard ph.d and LBS mmigrants with top consulting experiences are asked to enrol in a stupid continuing education program to get a low job in Canada… Canada is the 4th world in terms of having no public transparent recruitment n no screening system to select talents. only connection works… it is a part of corruption but Canadians have no opinions whatsoever that they don’t complain for change.
Its a moving story. And it is most certainly true. It’s a pity that I did not read it before we immigrated here earlier this year. It’s not that we don’t apply or are not sufficiently qualified or are not proficient enough in English or are not applying for jobs or don’t have the correct CV layout, it’s simply the fact that we are foreigner. I have already applied for over 50 jobs and none of my e-mails or calls are ever returned. The demand for ‘Canada experience’ is laughable, as in my home country we were at least 8 years ahead of Canada in terms of standards of Best Practice in my line of work. It looks to me at this stage that this whole immigration thing is a budget-balancing Government scheme.Local personnel agencies are staffed with totally incompetent people. Read about it – they are seemingly costing the country billions. I calculated that about $3,5 billion are netted annually from immigrants who leave within 12 months. It is Canada’s nice way to balance its budget!
I’m an ex-immigrant, who was lucky to go to discover Canada before deciding to move in there permanently.I totally agree with this article. No Canada!
yes canada. work at tim hortons or mcdonalds. thats good for your CV and life
Tell them about the weather!! 7 months of darkness and subzero temperatures. Inactivity and hibernation. This land is cursed.
it is a heart rending story dear. I am moved by it.
Can any one on this site be so kind to guide me in how to land a job in Dubai, please? I immigrated to Winnipeg (MB) Canada in 1988 for the first time where I found people to be very rude just for leasing me to speaking quietly to a friend in Spanish once, the old man said to me while pointing with his finger “that way is Toronto”, I wonder what he meant to these days (lol)!!! In Winnipeg, I studied some credits towards a major in Economics at the University of Winnipeg. After moving to Toronto following on that old fellow’s advice, I sent thousands of resumes and was able to land a job as a security guard, a decent job as would be any other at any level, one thing we must not do is either steal or caused damage to our human fellows in our way to get a better status. I became Canadian in 1991; and for reasons of my first experience with recession, I got laid off. So Canadian passport in hand, I made my way back to Central America where I had originally come from. To the present, after many ups and down, I’d say that here is where I have been able to succeed in my advertising and publishing profession that learnt on the job training in Costa Rica before I moved to Canada in 1988. In 1996, I travel to the USA where I registered a corporation and started publishing an international trade magazine from the grounds; I had good response from advertisers like the Port on Miami, the Port of Houston, Miami Int’l. Airport, UPS Air Cargo and the Port of New Orleans among others; but when I tried getting advertising support from Canadian companies, it was a total hopeless disaster, why did that happen? I still have no answer. These prospective Canadian sponsors were looking for the free ride, free advertising, it was always like that. Ok, in short story, after 1988, I experienced 2 more immigration intents after even been already a Canadian. In my conclusion, it had nothing to do with Canadian experience or education, BUT with a combination of factors like preference to seniority, because in Canada there are many old people still working even after 75; many recession following the Free Trade Agreement with the USA and then the NAFTA, jobs moved and still moving now a days to China, Mexico and even the USA after 2009 recession, so the joke about Americans moving to Canada for work makes society in Canada to feel proud (lol); and the final one, yes there are plenty, but help me say “PLENTY” of decent jobs in Canada working in construction, janitorial cleaning, factory, farms, nanny, health care looking after old folks, etc, for example a public transportation bus driver makes CAN$100,000 a year (I have to check if it is required to have a master degree to become a bus driver!!!). The government of Canada is the best in the world in helping immigrants to the point that some times it is abused by those families that say Canada is a wonder because they received child support at tax payers expenses who are single like me and are getting 40% in taxes and deduction off paychecks; even though yes Canada is a beauty and you have to love it as it is; otherwise, as I stated at the beginning, can any one please guide me in how to get a professional job that fills my expectation in Dubai that has nothing to do with cleaning, factory, construction or nanny, please ? Thanks.
Dubai is a land of opportunities. Were you able to make it in Dubai?
dear Josh, if you want job in Dubai, then the best way is take a flight land to Dubai with visit visa (1-3 month) apply for job and better you have same education as ur profession of work, before this visit indeed .ae website and see how many jobs is there.
good luck
Well,Well,Well. The comments are very discouraging to any family that is planning to immigrate to Canada. The Negative sides have already been discussed so I will not waste my time going over it again. Agreed it is tough I felt it too but I never gave up. This country challenges you and you have to challenge it back. I left a high management position in India to go and immigrate to Canada without a job for a better life. Yes I had some help as I stayed for couple of months with my relatives but deep inside I was prepared for the worse and was ready to do any honest job to progress further in life. Without any delay I entered into a job in the retail industry as a receiver. Remember everybody in Canada with no Canadian work experience has to start from the beginning. It is how one looks at it and takes it as it comes along the way. I kept on applying for jobs to get abck into my industry(hotels)and when i got my first break and it was not a management position. I accepted it and worked even harder as there was a lot to prove to myself and test my limits whether i had it in me. My hard work and best wishes of my family and friends paid off and I was able to get back into what i was doing back in India eventually.It is true that it takes time and one has to compete with fellow immigrants as for 1 same job there would 50 to 100 applicants but the key is that one has to keep trying and improvise along the way.
Guys don’t say the author has given up. Don’t blame her. It can happen to anyone and this is a story of many many immigrants as my first-hand experience. People have a myth that they can send kids for higher education and they will get good jobs. Considering this, parents send kids in any college and don’t look at its rating. Parents be careful about it. Definitely migration to Canada can be very fruitful and full of fortune but remember it is rarely seen in the first few years of migration. Some one mentioned that you get the job first and then come, that looks good option as you will know what you will make before you land. I think these days it’s not easy in India too. Once you have a nice job in US or Canada, it’s haven for you but remember if you don’t have a nice job/bussiness it’s worse than hell. These are my thoughts that I wanted to share with prospective immigrants. Sorry if I would have hurt someone.
How about kids who go to Canada, study there and then make a life for themselves, they get Canadian qualifications, but do they get jobs?
Not really, that is the problem. Even the 2nd Generation+ do not get a break (i.e. parents migrate, do slave jobs in hope that their childred will get a break). Canada is CONTROLLED by a few families (most not living in Canada) and that is where the corruption starts. The ‘recruiter’ is there to protect the big companies from ‘discrimination law suits’. Canada is one big ‘estate’ owned by some… that is how it seems.
One loser doesn’t mean everybody is loser. If your skill/qualification doesn’t match, you don’t get job. That has nothing to do with immigrant second generation, many white Canadian kids are jobless. I know many second generation Canadians are doing great, even kids who immigrate n studied here, they are doing great. It depends what they study, History in bad school vs Engineering/Economics/Law/Accounting from reputed school, even History degree from good school manage to get job.
If it’s all so horrid out there, why don’t you give it a try living in India in a big metro? At least the self esteem wouldn’t suffer!
I migrated to Canada more than 30 years ago. Very happy with the decision.Canada is one of the best countries in the world to live in. All those planning to migrate should do their homework, including that required by professional collage. Also be willing to work hard. The job situation is now tough for all.
One cannot agree more with you. You are spot-on.
Skin colour and looks are also important issues.. If you get into the race for interesting positions, you will surely lose against lighter skin candidates. There is no meritocracy. The current government of Stephen Harper is conservative and racist…I’ve had 38 years in Toronto…Immigrants live in Whitby, Ajax, Brampton, Mississauga etc… They do not live in Toronto….Education is questionable. Your french is always questioned as the Quebec french is mostly preferred…
That’s very sad. Well, there are so many other categories in the skilled labour policies in Canada that a person can go for AEO ( Arranged Employment Offer) which gets you the job and you do not land in a soup or look for a job after you arrive there with your heard earned savings.Secondly, i must say that for a period over 20 years of your good time in Middle East you should have realized the fact that even in the middle east the expats – whosoever comes there – has a job offer.
Rome was not built in a day
Canada is not Rome. It is robbed by white men from
original natives. Call it rob, not Rome.
Canada will be no longer country of whites. It will be soon replaced by Indo-Canadian population. And if you google it, you will find Indians economic and financial condition is far better than whites in Canada and us as well and if you will google most of the billionaire and successful Indians live in England, US, Canada or Australia. Indians are very talented, but the indian government we know. So I urge many Hindus and Sikhs go and migrate and show your talent and increase your population and form strong communities.
Sarth, you have got your facts wrong.
i can see your subtle racism. what about chinese and indian muslims?
You are very right Mr.Sarth. I totally agree with you.
Options are still open. You can go back without losing your important time.
With all due respect, why are you still living here? When is the author leaving Canada to go live in India permanently? Please, seriously, go back.
I have lived in 26 different countries for a considerable time in each country and none of them even comes close to beautiful Canada.
I immigrated here by choice and my life is much safer and better than India. India is a horrible country, in my opinion.
iam a dentist and willing to move canada tell me both positive and negative things
India is horrible…if u think so, that’s great…India is not a playground for kids…hahahahahah….only Lions live here…..Singams
Chandler Gaind
Wah wah.what. A. Son of India
Your MOm. Should have thrown you to
Canada the moment you were born
You are horrible the way you think is horrible
Telling your own motherland horrible
Shameless creature you are
Let me tell you you did not see anything in 26 countries
Because you seek easy money easy life some body s glory
MUFT. Me
Your surname sounds very well GAIND.
It suits your thoughts of school and your background
Be happy in some ones house. One day you will land your. Back in India begging for entry
Sherali
Telling your own motherland horrible.
Your surname sounds very well
It suits your thoughts of school
Subhan Allah
Mr.Sherali what is there India to appreciate about? The damn population the corruption the poverty. Wow so according to you these all things are great right. Now please dont say that one day India will improve and will be forward and developed than other western countries. If thousands of Narendra Modi will come and go then too nothing will impove in India. All that will increase in order in India first the population that is the pride of India then corruption and then unemployent.
Thanks
4 going to Canada & making india less horrible.
after living in 25 ‘countries’ you learned a lesson that India is a horrible country. I have serious doubt which ‘countries’ you lived. by the way I am not an Indian but I love India and the indians.
India is a horrible place to live because of Swines like you.Please
get the fuck out of india
dear Mr Chander Gaind,
Your name indicates you have some link with India.Having lived in 26 countries for considerable time in each country,can u take trouble to tabulate your stay in each country and then disclose your Dt of Birth.I don’t have an issue if you find Canada great,safe,beautiful,etc, etc,… But I find it quite objectionable when you call my country ( may be your country also) HORRIBLE.BTW, my son is in Canada since two years and I generally know how great Canada is.
Hi Chander, I came across this forum just browsing the net. I have no specific reason to be a participant here as I have no intentions of moving out of India in spite of getting several offers and travelling around the globe. The most idiotic statement that you have made in this forum is by calling India a horrible country. Sorry to say buddy, but people like you are the real liars who lead a slave’s life in some foreign land and paint it pink just to mask their failure. India and Indians are ashamed of people like you and wish you guys never come back to the ” paradise on earth” called India. Pls stay where ever you are, be happy with your life like shit and please do not ever come to India. India does not need losers like you who have no respect for their mother and motherland. No thanks.
My uncle left india quitting a prestigious job working at indira gandhi airport. When he came to Canada, he worked jobs at the gas stations, factories to support his family. His self-esteem and morale went so down, he got severely depressed and had a stroke. Today he lives as a vegetable. The blessing of his story is that his kids got educated and are now working in good jobs, but that’s all. The sacrifice he took even with all of us telling him not to come.
Sad to see the negative on your move to Canada , if you don’t like the country then pack up and go home . We are a resilient race and to me it looks like you have given up what it is that makes us Indians get ahead .
Anil singh, what the author is quoting is reality. About packing bags, she will certainly do if her situation remains same. She is not criticising here but making people aware of the ground reality who are planning for migration to snow land.
Dear Anil SIngh
You sound great Indian. Kudos
So. Sad. Anil SAb you couldn’t do any thing in India
Like a Coward you escaped to Canada
How dare you say
WE Indians are resilient ?? we are hard working people and not like you bowing to whites and basking in their glory
Come down to earth and face the reality
talk about your self that you ran away and did not have guts to do something in India
Canadians and white loots idiots like you who take thier hard earned money
And live in those. leaked ka ZHopda.
Bloody Canadian you spend that money in India you would have made a reasonable
House and not that. Container house. And face the hatrate of Bloody FIlipinas who are the most backward country in world
Think Mr . Anil Singh the great CAnadian the 21st centuary ka. Angrezon. Ka. Gulam
And come to India. Where you have your roots your grand parents grand ma
And dare you say any thing to the author. Mind. Your own buisness
Sherali Abbas
I am sure Sherali, if you have the opportunity to migrate to canada then you will be the first one to jump in to the plane.
how many millions of people living their life under the line of poverty ? what about corruption ? The Philippines is much much better country as compared to India. Go and visit. kuwa a mendak!!!!
Dear Aley
First of all I am happy in india and in my wildest dream I will not ever think
Of even look in to the picture of Canada also. secondly let me tell you that your history and geography needs to be brushed up. please do not parade your ignorance and look into the facts and figure and read glimpses of the world to find out about a nation called India. You fillipinas better sell. Pizza and McDonald you are good at it.
Don’t talk about India
Sherali
Kuya ka mendak
You live in India but work for Kuwait automotive company. Its not forum to discuss patriotism.
Sherali you have posted few comments from your FB account, you seem to work as sales manager for a Kuwait Automotive Company, its funny you give patriotism lecture to others leaving India n call them coward.
Are you astrologer or your sixth sense so powerful to know Sherali is desperate to go Canada you r an a**hole
Anil could not anything in India and thus he moved to out, you are in India, what are you doing? insulting others on this forum.
You think moving out of India is an act of cowardliness, I think its a wise decision.
It takes guts to move out of your cosy little shell and face the world, not every one is Anil singh nor Sherali Abbas.
Author ne rona roya and you started insulting everyone who do not agree with her.
Leaving India was his personal choice. Why are you insulting him?
Living in India is your personal choice, he is not insulting you for that reason. Why do you think he is “angrezo ka gulam”? what about millions in India working in MNCs like IBM? Is India completely Independent? What about those World bank loans? Is India able to take care of welfare of the all the people leaving there? many like Anil work abroad n send money back to India to support family/extended family. India makes lot from NRI aids directly/indirectly, many NRI invest n build in institution that helps Indian Economy. What about that? It’s hypocrisy to blame NRIs.
So Who leaves India for better life he is coward? What about people who leave rural areas come to urban n metro areas for better life? As per your philosophy they should stay back in village to resolve village issues? They are all cowards? Stay hungry n stay foolish? Many Indians do well in west n have job as per their skill so is Filipinos n others, you cannot generalize n insult everybody just because they disagree to the author’s story.
I 100% agree with your comment Eshop.
Yes! Rightly said and even who go outside of India for job they also give opportunity to others who can’t leave India for any reason. Think if all NRI returned to India , half populations become jobless.
Amen. This is the situation not just for immigrants. Believe me, this is the reality for those born, raised, and “educated” in Canada as well. The number of Canadian-trained teachers who have to emigrate just to make a living is astonishing.
Coming back to Canada from working overseas presents life-long Canadians with the same horrors as immigrants. This is not a place to live right now.
Quite right, Sarah. Being a Canadian-born, male Caucasian bitch with a lily-white ass is no longer a benefit. Foreign nationals have entered civil service at all levels and are bringing with them their own interpretation on how our local jurisdictions should be governed, often resulting in policy changes that are of little advantage to those who are essentially indigenous. I find myself cultivating an attitude of dissidence with not being able to assimilate to these newly structured rules of governance. I’m just glad that I don’t have as many years ahead anymore to endure this reality, because there will be no end to it.
Isn’t that’s how democracy supposed to work? I don’t have any sympathy for you when you claim I am Canadian-born and foreign nationals have entered civil service. First, those so-called foreign nationals are probably Canadian citizens with the same rights as you. This is the exactly the kind of “entitlement” mentality that is being criticized here. It appears immigrants do not like what you guys have created so they will change it in a democratic way. I blame Canadians to mess up their own country. You guys demanded so much in benefits from your government that it had no choice to bring immigrants who could bring money with them. Now those immigrants have their own ideas of governance. If you loved your lifestyle so much then you should have lived responsibly. Free healthcare is not really free.
To All
I heard this situation quite often.
However Canada has free medical, free education.
There are 6 or so Sikhs who are Members of Parliament.
I have been advocating that without education no body can
succeed. One can get evening courses or what ever any other way. Sikhs are very weak in education and thus is very hard to get good jobs.
First our religious leaders must be educated in the country they preach. They should have at least BA degree from Canada or USA. That will set up the base for the Sikhs to get education.
When I talk of education it means as high as possible.
Be a doctor, attorney, computers or any other good profession. Without computers we can not do any thing
now a days.
Summary
Education, education and education from the country of adoption is the answer.
Jaspal Singhh Mayell
Stamford, CT USA
But how many people who land in Canada or the US above the age of 40 has the time or money to get education from the country of adoption? Even if they get the required education after spending their savings, they could still be jobless as is the case of the author of this article and tons of other immigrants.
Absolutely right! There is very remote possibility to get a job even after completing further education here in Canada, this is my own experience.
After upgrading or enhancing education, one has to sit for license in most cases, pay regulatory and professional fees, insurances costs, volunteer work, Canadian Experience and never ending eligibility demands….just to hunt and get for any entry level. This is waste of time money, resources, prime age, energy and affects health too.
Bad Canada Dreams !!
i am 100% agreed with your comments and hope everybody else think positively.I lives in Florida USA as an average person but with dignity and freedom atleast not humiliated by employers like in Saudi Arab and other Arab nations where they treat the employes as their personsl servant and very unhuman
Jagmeet Singh is a Canadian first and a Sikh next, but old stock Canadians still use his stock photos to write racist Memes and accuse him of being an Islamic extremist.
I stayed in a odd job for 1.5 years and then got a nice job with 6 figure salary and I wear turban as usha Ji said I still warn you before u migrate to Canada. Be prepared or odd jobs and I consider my self lucky that I was able to get a nice job in 1.5 years. I have seen se getting jobs in less than 6 months but these are rare stories. I didn’t had kids when I migrated. Odd jobs with kids are tough guys ! Think before u migrate.
Not entirely true. I know many of my relatives have gone to Canada and have jobs according to their skills. But you are right, you must research before you go.
It depends. Luck also plays be big part. Normal white collar middle class people are going to find Canada very tough. I have been here for 14 years and have no reason to bluff. What the author says is true of 80% of this category I am referring to. Unless you are lucky to make a family income of 120k and above…….then all you are doing is helping the Canadian economy. Your life will be doomed and there are no guarantees that your kids (for whose sake you are enduring everything) will have a good prospect.
true….people are Deluded and gambling with their life’s…The reason we went to school and studied hard was to eliminate LUCK & RISK….If this is what Canada offers …My dad would have just used all the money he spend on me on Lottery Tickets for the last 30 years.
I wouldn’t risk it if Luck involves 1% of the decision. Its stupid and low IQ Talk. What has luck got to do with Education, Skills and Experience…Canada is for brainwashed idiots who relay on LUCK
I Know this is old… but when you say ‘job’ you must define it. In my opinion if a job pays less than $96,000 then it is not really ‘up-there’.
My interest is in if anybody has jobs which pay $96,000+ per year and management jobs.
Now, Nanny, Custodian/Janitor, Checkout, McJobs. Even if you are ‘manager’ the Salary must be at the very least $60,000+ per year.
Would be interesting if some people of ‘visible minority’ would share their designations vs salaries.
Again, if you are earning less than $60,0000 it does not qualify as the ‘protected jobs’ give over $96,000 per year, which are not open to ‘visible minorities’.
Even supermarket hire new immigrants as ‘checkout’ workers only to get rid of the ‘white’ Canadians who earn $18+ per hour to pay new immigrants minimum wage…
I assume your relatives are either telling you lies or they may not have migrated under skilled category.
if you chase a mirage then obviously you will end up feeling like the writer. But if you approach situation with an open mind and ground realities in sight, you can be much better off, wherever you are.
Seriously, no one has come up here without putting up a hard struggle. I know of people who have come here 20 years back who now say they have reached this stage after a long fight. Either you are willing to work in low paid jobs or upgrade your qualifications using your hard earned money or take student loan and upgrade your skills. No one has entered a profession with their existing university qualifications and previous experience from a different country into an enviable post. I know of my own relatives, doctors who had to undergo many exams and work in frigid conditions to reach the position they are in now. And people who have not seen a good life before and nothing to fall back on are willing to do any kind of job to survive and stay put here. Gradually they build up, no doubt. By the way I thought we see mirage in a desert and not in this frigid cold.
I was in the same dilemma as the author. I am currently based in Dubai. I am so confused if Canada is good for Chartered Accountants. I have ACCA degree and it gives me Certified General Accountant’s degree of Canada due to Mutual Relationship Agreement between the two Institutes.
Are you able to shed some advise from your close acquiantancies’ experience if its worth moving to Canada with CGA, Canadian qaulification in hand, from well settled life in Dubai. Sharing your experience may help in taking right decision.
Thanks a lot for your time.
If you are ready to put up with a struggle of 5 years with odd jobs then come. If not don’t come..Your degree does not mean anything here. Period!. Sorry for being honest and upfront. Take care.
CA’s are in demand in Canada. Especially working for the big 5 firms. But it’s hard work and very, very long hours at the firm. Private companies have less hours. You should start looking online and applying before you land so when you get here you know the situation.
Hey Ann, my name is pinak and i was in East Africa for last 5 years. coz of some family issues i had to return to India. but now am not liking more here. can you suggest and can i get any help from your end how can i?
You guys are missing the point. It does not matter how intelligent you are (most of chaps from Asia are). The white guys do not respect others. In fact, they feel insecure. So you will always be put down. You will end up, at best, being a glorified clerk. Please bear that in mind.
These hate comments irritate me. The way you behave is the way you will be treated. I have known many white people over the last 15 odd years and not a single one of them has ever treated me in the way you describe. On the flip side, I have received a raw deal from folks with subcontinent background.
Hey Sammy, go and fetch me and my white friends a beer. Then you can wash our trucks but only after you do our taxes. You are an ignorant SOB.
Well said Sammy. Objective occupations like Engineering? Oh my god!
White people do not want to be “told” by a brown person.
This company in Port Coquitlam Bc, has the word “professional” in its name.
99.9% white employees, hand picked by the owner with surname “whiteman”
I tell them in 192 inches you cannot fit 7 equipments of 210 wide.
Hang four pumps from the pipes above (it is recommended installation procedure)
They act like they dont know what I am talking about. I draw sketch — no no
I design in 3d “no no “. I then explain the math “no no ” I then show them the IOM (installation and operation manual “no no ” now either they should be retarded or it is pure racism.
You be the judge.
Pretty stupid argument really. If white people do not want to be told then it is a problem they need to deal with because professors, doctors, etc. are not all white. Keep that philosophy and shove it in your rear. No one really gives a damn what you think.
ACCA is internationally recognized degree and there are jobs available in Canada. there might not be a lot in Toronto, but in Alberta you will land a good job for sure. Looking about 70k+
I have read your comment regarding to job.
I would like get advice that I have done my Ph.D. in Analytical Chemistry and having 13 years of teaching experience at higher education level in India and Libyan University.
My age is around 43 years. Is it time to come Canada through Immigration? If I would come is it possible to get lecturer / Asst. professor jobs in University / colleges over their? or I have to struggle a lot to get the job?
Now this profession is included in Skilled and in demand under Canada immigration.
I hope I would get proper advice.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Hi BD , i am an indian CA with 9ys experience 38 yrs 1 child 4yrs applying for PR canada is it a good decision at this age ?
There are tons of CAs from India here and you will eventually find your spot.
To RG
Stay where you are if you are happy and have good prospects. Come to Canada only if you are not losing anything and have no other option.
I have lived in Canada for 18 years and can tell you things have changed a lot and will be changing even more…My daughter has the same designation as you and is not happy at all.She has been raised here so she should be happy right? Not so!
What about uae? most workers here has good skills and education but end up either in construction as a labourer or cleaners.. and btw we are not paying taxes here but uae is getting as expensive as in England or canada… inflation rate is very high in uae…
RG,
You are well qualified but what I can tell you is don’t simply uproot yourself and come here as you might not like it. My parents lived in Dubai for 25 Years and my Dad was a Hospital Administrator in New Dubai Hospital. He did not like it here at all after the lifestyle of Dubai. Come, spend a month and see how things work out here before you make a major decision such as this and don’t forget we pay high taxes vs no taxes as in Dubai.
If you can legally work as a CA in Canada you will be fine. CAs are in high demand. It’s one of the few certifications and skills that transfers. You will probably have to start in a more entry level position though.
Canada needs taxpayers to run that ice-covered land, which they don’t have, and so they are running this migration program. Specially if a person has descent life, job, savings in the Gulf or India, never plan migration in Canada
Canada has 40-45 percent tax, -20 temperature and its so-called good education in public school doesn’t make Canada a good choice to live and work, specially for people from the Middle East who enjoyed tax-free pay and good living standards.
Nitin,
I agree you dont pay taxes in the middle-east but you still bear the harsh weather and can never be a citizen of that country. I spent 10 years in UAE.
Canada is not ice covered year round, it is indeed a very beautiful country. I do pay taxes but my medicals and the education of my child is covered.
Kuldeep, you talking about citizenship? Did you respect you Indian citizenship?
Dear author your story generated good discussion and its a topic worth discussing. A true story and people are mostly led up the green path. I had similar experience n tale to tell
I moved from Dubai and seen the better life which you are referring to. But when I landed here, I was prepared to work at a lower position in my field (knew the Canadian experience requirement). You made a better life for yourself in Dubai and you can make it here too. Believe in yourself
I agree with your article half and disagree half.
canada may not be great for specialized ppl but its great for unspecialized ppl. i worked in casual jobs and i can say i can sleep peacefully at night without worrying about competion like in asia. there are many casual jobs and its good enough for us to lead the rest of our life. its not humiliating at all. a job is a job, doctors and janitors are same level. thats progress. canada doesnt need specialized ppl like USA. fishing, mining, and lodging are great. we dont need to join the rest of the world. have a good life and vancouver is multicultural. you can meet japanese ppl just as you can see latvian. i left the middle east and asian life long time ago. i am happy with canada being alone and banning emirates. as canada’s response is: ” who is dubai to tell us anything. the are backward sand living ppl. we are better”
You must be joking , because if you are not – then you are plain stupid! I am sorry so say it but you are!
what do you mean by saying stupid? where do you live? i think you consider yourself super-smart which is just pure fiction.
if you have problem with my last part maybe you should google canaa’s response due emirates proposal.
“No one has entered a profession with their existing university qualifications and previous experience from a different country into an enviable post.”
really??? are you serious? I am from Calgary, there are many professionals specially in Oil n Gas, and in IT who are engaged in satisfactory job with their prior Education and university degree without going to school in Canada, many even works in senior managerial role.
Everybody’s story is different. You cannot generalize your situation with everybody else’s situation.
In my personal opinion people won’t do enough research before coming, for example, as I mentioned there are many people from India in IT jobs, but IT is vast field, what skill set is in demand, not all IT skill works.
The other thing is language ability (warning – I don’t mean it for everybody or generalize it), there are many qualified people with not good command over English/French, so even if they played bigger role in their own country, they don’t find same level job here, I know a guy who is an IT Director in his country, working here as a programmer due to bad command over English and he accepts that n happy with current job, he makes enough to address his, he owns his own car/house n lives with family (again depending on skills – few programmers make more than others, so I cannot generalize it). Many people may have average English command but lack in soft skills like presentation, organizational, working in team, time management which is very important here unlike India.
And then many people come here starts working on small job for few years and suddenly one fine day joins a short term IT/accounting course and blames everybody not getting the JOB. Even I know couple of people in construction industry doing great here.
Basically after 9 to 10 years of educational gap, how qualified one is master/PhD whatever that is complete VOID. Forget about Canada, even in India, nobody cares about degree after that BIG gap, for example one has got PhD in a specific subject but never worked in that area for many years and suddenly show up at an university to grab a teacher’s job, will he get it? What’s his/her most recent contribution to academics/research? nothing? Forget Canada, even in India – no job for them.
And then many people come with name shake degrees, degrees from open university from where getting degree is much easier, under the table , malpractice or by other means, just to get points in PR process application, useless degrees that won’t help them to find a job or pursue further education here, they don’t dare to study as they are fully aware of their abilities.
Everybody is not in same boat, few people did struggle with their education n experience, but improved over time getting adequate education/schooling/work experience. Keep trying.
There are many kinds! So everybody’s story is different. One is looser doesn’t mean everybody is looser.
Just to add, one fellow I know came here as his spouse immigrating under some job offer. He was a customer relationship manager in a life insurance company back in India n not able to find similar job here, the thing is there is no such job category FSD/CIC which means there is no labor shortage in such categories, he came via spouse’s link n blaming the system for not finding a job for him. Now with big gap from his base academic, he cannot go back to school nor ready to, then why blame Canada for that reason. he has to start here from scratch, that’s the bitter truth.
looks professional…the world is more specific on competent people.certificates can help to make paths. but to show your self professional, have to perform.Many guys completed graduation or post graduation from india from private institute with average performance .Later with the help of agencies they are saying we are professionals. ok ,but if an agency do the test on their proficiency in that particular subject it s zero..how we can ask to other countries to give us license to do practice. ok if you are eligible then why not get pass in exam?so there is problem in approach.be professional.day dreaming will not give professional career..
Hi Eshop, Iam planning to migrate to canada in near future(1 or 2 years). I work as a inspection engineer(QA/QC, oil and Gas) with a reputed company in singapore. Which province is better for my profile and can i find the job from here once my PR is approved.I hearing some good and bad news as well. Can you please provide some info. Thanks.
We do see mirage in Icefield/frigid weather as well not only in deserts. Check your school science book.
OR wikipedia
It’s called “superior mirage” – A superior mirage occurs when the air below the line of sight is colder than the air above it. Superior mirages are quite common in polar regions, especially over large sheets of ice that have a uniform low temperature.
Raveen, how many immigrants get the chance to know the ground realities in Canada? Does Canada give visas to people to let them come here and have a look at the situation and then decide whether they will adapt to it or not? Probably you have answered the question by using the word `mirage’.
Very well said
Same is true in USA. At distance all look green or Mirage. Here at least many of the immigrants do get public assistance. Indians and Russians are most expert in getting PA; Chinese are now learning. My suggestion to Panjabis is that see the conditions in Immigrant Ethnic enclave in Queens where Americans have moved away and this will remind you of South Hall where people sleep by turns and rest of the time they go out to pump the gas or work at construction site or Langar or clinics to get their Parshad, card renewed for headache or pain in back or legs.
Have you ever visited USA or lived here? Most of the Indians who came were professionals and they live very well. It is now that the sponsored relatives may be what you describe. I have not been in a situation to see what you’re describing. Hope it helps.
First thing, that family is wrong to move to Canada at that age after 20 years of experience in DUbai. My guess they could have been 40 plus by that time. That is not the time to migrate
As per my experience, even we are in Lion’s Den,fiery furnace or in Antarctica where ever we may be ,
we need GOD’s GRACE ( JESUS CHRIST GRACE) to survive .Without GOD’s Grace it become a frightening experience.
thanks