By Bimal Sharma
(Due to privacy concerns, the name of the author is changed. Views are personal.)
TORONTO: As I read the news this week about 257,515 people migrating to Canada last year, I had a chill running down my spine as I considered the fate of these immigrants who would have to start their job hunt the very next day of their arrival. Their imported money would soon run out and if they have to survive in this country, they will have to get a job quickly.
Personally speaking, my family had a great life in Dubai. We managed to get a good education for our kids. My husband and I had satisfying jobs and a good bank balance thanks to our tax-free salaries.
Then suddenly, this Canada bug bit us as we did not want to return to India after working for about two decades in Dubai.
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So we decided to apply for immigration to Canada. After a few years of waiting, we got our PR Cards. When we told our friends that we are going to settle in Canada, many of them warned us. They narrated horrific tales of new immigrants in Canada.
They warned us that highly skilled and experienced people, who have worked in managerial positions in Dubai or India, are working as cab drivers or factory workers in Canada. We were also told that even if you did get a job, you will have to work much below your professional rank, which will deeply hurt your ego and self esteem.
In fact, some friends suggested that we would be better off going back to India to the warmth of our family. But we suspected that they are fooling us and we paid no heed to their advice.
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So in April 2009, we left Dubai and landed in Toronto to start a new life, against the wishes of these family friends. We were in a hurry to get back into our former profession. But it took me more than a couple of years to get a teaching license. Then I spent more money on upgrading my qualifications and membership fees. Then I had to do a lot of volunteer work as I waited and waited for a school job.
But nothing happened.
So here is my story: even after spending four years in Canada and upgrading my skills and using up all our savings, I am still without a job. Actually, this IS the story of thousands of fellow immigrants.
School boards are on perpetual strike. Teachers are being laid off. It is a very frightening situation for teachers. But the school boards keep training more and more teachers and making money!
Most of these teachers are jobless or they are doing jobs that pay them peanuts and kill their self-esteem.
My husband, who had three decades of work experience in construction in Dubai, was reduced to doing odd jobs which are not even worth mentioning.
Chasing this so-called Canadian dream, we have ended up using all our savings. We have already spent a couple of hundred thousand dollars to live a descent life, so that we will not lose the will to survive in this struggling country with no job prospects.
Having spent almost all our life savings, we don’t know what to do next – whether to stay here or go back. Our life is in a limbo.
My advice to people who are itching to migrate to Canada to give a better future to their children is this: Think hard before you take any decision and don’t fool yourself by painting a rosy picture in your head. You may end up working in factories, call centers, security agencies, Tim Horton’s or packing factories. You will lose your savings. Your will lose your morale and self-esteem. Tensions will destroy your marital and family life. Finally, if you are lucky enough, you may get an entry-level job and then pay someone else’s mortgage while living in their basement as you dream of buying your own little nest.
And buying your little nest in a hurry (with your saved money) could be your worst mistake, for God forbid if you are laid off, as it happened to my dear friend, who will pay the mortgage? Your house dream will collapse and you will be buried under it.
And if you do get a job – which most probably you won’t enjoy doing, but you will do it anyways to survive and pay the mortgage – you will end up wasting the prime of your life paying back the mortgage. It is not worth it, believe me.
Our struggle for survival continues to this day. We don’t know when we will wind up this fruitless venture and head back to India. This is the story of many immigrants to Canada.
(UPDATED: This article first appeared on March 4, 2013. Due to privacy concerns, the name of the author is changed)
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Trudeau is trying to prevent a real estate collapse, therefore his government has increased immigration numbers to an unsustainable number to get more rent plebs to pay rent to the landlords. It’s like a scam and Ponzi scheme.
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For a young attractive female, Canada is a PARADISE. An endless supply of men who are willing to pay C$5,000 cash for a dinner date at an expensive restaurant. The law in Canada protects the integrity of women. Canada is a great country for a female immigrant.
For a middle-aged man, Canada is HELL. The legal system views him as a privileged class yet he is discriminated in the job market by not only his age, race or ethnic origin, but is also vilified by the Canadian government feminist policy. It’s women first, then children, then pets. Men have no rights in this country.
Canada is the civilized version of Saudi Arabia, but the Canadian women are the elite class.
The yearly amount that you will pay in rent for a cockroach infested flat in Toronto can afford you a parcel of land within 4 to 5 years.
You are paying rent to make the landlords and home owners richer.
Sadly, the immigrants are selling everything that they have back home to pay rent that gets another man richer to buy more assets to rent to more immigrants.
I remember a young man from Guatemala who came to Canada with his wife.
They sold everything that they had in Guatemala, and despite me telling the man to do general labour work on the side, he refused to look for work like that, and they ended up selling not only their personal properties in Guatemala, but also that of the wife’s and his in-laws. His father in law took a huge loan and used his home as collateral.
For what? To pay C$2,000 a month to rent another man condo in Lee Centre Drive in Scarberia?
Your Guatemalan amigo wouldn’t be poor in his homeland if he was living off the savings while refusing general labour jobs.
This is what I don’t like about middle class foreigners being told that they should liquidate everything to migrate. Latin American real estate is becoming pricey these days. I doubt that your compadre will afford to repurchase the land that he sold in Guatemala if he were to do that today.
I’m sorry but your amigo is stuck in a trap. He can’t leave the country because he can’t afford to return.
In a true socialist country, the elite would have to pay their fair share of taxes and wealth.
The elite in Toronto are not forced to pay their wealth to the working class. It’s the opposite. Immigrants are giving their wealth to the rich and government.
Immigrants work in factories, pay C$1,600 or more a month to rent a cockroach and rat-infested apartment in Toronto to make the Toronto elites richer.
I still don’t get it why educated and professional classes of Indians want to leave their comfortable lifestyles in India where they can afford house, servant and labourers, to pay rent for the home-owning classes by working as a servant and labourer in Toronto.
It baffles me.
I don’t see anything concerning about those fleeing dire circumstances to start a new life in Canada, like persecuted religious minorities, war crime victims, and domestic violence victims in countries lacking women rights, but educated Indian professionals coming here to work as general labourer and janitor just to afford rent. Just. baffles. me.
I’m a Canadian of European descent, and I would like to live in India where I can afford a home and live a middle class lifestyle. I can’t get that standard of life in Canada.
I’m working for $25 an hour for the local municipality, and yet I can’t afford a home in my city.
So why would Indian professionals want to live as second class citizens in Canada when they live a good life in India?
You bought an interesting point. Asia is crowded and infrastructure non existent for the entire population. not to mention the pollution and safety. So they leave to avoid these these situations. When they get the good things in Canada, they are upset about the lifestyle. Well, the truth is no place in the universe has it all!
But those middle class immigrants can afford to live in suburban cities in Asia instead of living in apartment slums in Toronto?
This has been discussed extensively. Those guys leave India because they believe the lies. Canadian government advertises that it is developed country with lots of jobs. When these middle class people leave India they believe that they are going to get same jobs and their job experience and education will be valued as it is valued in their country of origin. You may claim that they are foolish to believe that, but this is volume business. You tell that to 1 million people and even 1% fall to the false Canadian ads., it is still thousands of immigrants.
Parag, the new batch of immigrants from India are international “students” mainly from Punjab and Kerala. They are a new breed of immigrants. Young, globalized and they adopt to Canadian culture easily. Lots of Punjabi gangs, prostitution rings, dangerous driving and criminal activities going on with the younger generations.
They are not the quiet, suffering in silence middle class immigrant who left his affluent banking job in India to clean public washrooms for minimum wage in Toronto. Fortunately, that is a dying breed. Many Indian nationals tell me that the reason why Trudeau opened up the quotas for foreign students is because the global middle class is waking up to the fact that Canada is a lie for upward mobility.
There is no upward mobility for a home-owning middle class Manager in Mumbai or Beijing to work for minimum wage at Tim Hortons and rent a roach infested apartment for C$1,800 a month.
Salman,
I have to disagree.
The Middle Class in developing countries are being lied to and given false pretenses to migrate to Canada.
It should be a disgrace to the reputation of Canada for an Indian with a Phd working as labourers and school janitors.
Because “1 Canadian Dollar equals 60.67 Indian Rupee!!!”
What does that have to do with immigration? The Canadian dollar is also collapsing right now.
has it collapsed yet? LoL 1 CAD = 61.02 today.
Alpha College, a subsidiary of St. Lawrence College is reported to have de-enrolled International students after they paid their tuition, leading many to fear deportation to their home countries.
Canadian government is taking money from the Third World to enrich the the wealthy class in Canada. BEWARE!
Ashok, Canada needs immigrants. We need immigrants to:
1) Work at low wage jobs and not complain.
2) Become consumers to make Bell, Telus, Loblaws, Weston, Rogers family, Shapiro family, Bronfman family richer. Guaranteed new customers every year.
Gen Z
Well yes, but its no secret. Canada follows European model of development. In the European system, people think of putting minimal effort for getting average increment in improvement. Cause they are already developed in terms of infrastructure and work life balance.
So in the eyes of Canada, driving taxi is a great job. chilling at beach on long weekends is the best part of life. Low wage is still good enough to live for 2 people working and having a dog. The high wage and high tech job is the dream of an immigrant which doesn’t concern Canada. Have you seen an Irish girl or Danish guy in downtown Vancouver do 2 jobs? No. Further, if Canada lets an immigrant do 2 jobs, this will put the Irish girl in a dilemma to work hard. So the govt has to equalize the immigrant by taxing for 2 jobs so that the European can feel secure about work life balance and job security. Canada follows European model of socialism and its no surprise. We wont work hard or be rich and wont other let also work hard and be rich. That’s the socialist motto.
Your second point about new customers for Bell is how Europe socialism works. There is income equality but not wealth equality. So what it means is incomes will be equal for doctors and truck driver but time in Canada results in wealth accumulation. So if you stay in Canada 200 years, you will have abundance of money. You cant come and get rich in a few years. This is how Netherland, Belgium, and other European countries work.
Canada is great life if you want to live care free like the Europeans (Vancouver experience of beach, hiking, skydiving) but it is a nightmare if you want to live like an immigrant who has to send money back home.
Canada is not a European model socialist country anymore.
The government guarantees that the elite get returns on their investments in real estate, telecoms, groceries, etc. This isn’t socialism. It’s crony capitalism.
If you’re coming here at 30 plus years of age, keep in mind that your work experience & education means nothing,
You have to retrain and do entry level jobs with the 20-something Canadian-born university students doing their work semester while studying. It’s not good if you have work experience and work ethic under your belt.
Hundreds of Indians and Africans studying in Ukraine are being viciously assaulted and harassed by Polish nationalists at the border. Trudeau should give those fleeing war express entry into Canada.
Canada is costly, low wages and the economy is not as great as America, but at least we don’t have Polish nationalists acting violent on Medicine doctorate students because they are Black.
Trudeau help those medicine students. We need more doctors!
India student shot dead in Toronto, while he was going to work part time in mexican cafe.This incident is a big slap to all those parents who think canada is much safer than USA.
Not really. The frequency of these events are much rarer compared to US. You cant argue with the data. Canada still ranks much higher than US cities for safety across the board.
The international student was shot a few yards away from one of the most affluent communities in Canada- Rosedale, yet bandits do not even dare try to rob the rich people.
They murder working class people and students using public transit.
The TTC doesn’t care about safety of their patrons. Neither does the Toronto Police if you’re not a white middle class person, especially a white woman.
The TTC & Toronto Police would rather wait on a non-white getting murdered than to take preventative action. Zero tolerance on crime in Rosedale and affluent communities.
But at least there isn’t a polish nationalist stabbing or shooting international students in Toronto yet.
Dally,
Strong feed on the weak, research this and that. Great stuff. these are all observations of reality.
is that the right way?
dominant feed (or oppress) on the weak. Canada has laws to help protect the vulnerable from the bullying.
Misogynistic societies are dominated by males. Canada has laws to help woman.
Many treat LGBTQ badly. Canada has laws to protect LGBT.
Selfish interest are the way to go according to you. Canada has laws to stop such people from conquering the country economically and socially.
So, by your own admission, you are lost
Surely if you believe in status quo of rich or strong oppressing poor or weak, Canada is against that.
You can’t have it both ways:
If you say Canada is great, your ideals are bad.
If you say your ideals are great, Canada is bad.
So what’s the solution?
Surely, you don’t want to oppressed by Canada in their self-interest or do you…..lol!!!
The unspoken truth regarding Canada is that young people, and mainly females have much more to gain than a middle-aged man. Many middle-aged men from India regret migrating to Canada. They allege that it’s a hell for them because the Canadian system doesn’t cater to their needs. A young woman has a better chance to succeed in Canada.
If you have sons, you better consider that the marriage prospects for young ethnic men are dire unless there is arranged marriage in the home country.
Indian men who have a middle class lifestyle in India will be doing a stupid thing to migrate to Canada to find a wife. Google “incel problem Toronto”. Many Canadian men are sexless and have no future.
This “Dally Llama” is something else. Impersonating the Dalai Lama, and being an ignorant closet racist to boot.
It’s only in Toronto that you will find a taxi driver who was a Physician in their home country, and did surgeries in developed countries, but cannot be employed as a doctor in Canada.
There are educated professions from Singapore who are serving coffee at Tim Hortons.
The problem is that middle aged Indian men migrate to Canada and end up worse off than they were back in India where they had a job a middle class lifestyle and are not faced with reverse discrimination in the education and job market.
Canada caters to young people and females for equity reasons. Middle aged men have no chance in Canada.
At least in India a “middle class lifestyle” doesn’t prevent a man from finding a wife. It only affects the poor and those living in overpopulated states.
But to find a wife in Canada?! The Canadian men are having difficulty because female students are taught to fear and hate men, except for the ultra-rich Toronto elite.
Imagine that you are working a good career in India, and then you migrate to Canada to be sexless and treated as a persona non grata.
If Canada is that bad, pack your bags and go back where you came from. And take all of your friends and relatives with you.
You won’t be missed.
Hey yo. We are not second class citizens in Canada. We have a right to be in this multi-cultural country just as much as you. An interpretivist can interpret in any way they see the data. We dont need your or Queen’s approval who is on welfare. In USA, we kicked the monarchy out and now kicking out all the invader racists back to Europe.
If you dont like it, go back to where you and your forefathers came from. Take all of your friends and relatives with you.
You wont be missed even the slightest.
Now that we introduced each other’s emotional intelligence, let’s get to business. Mind you, I am a second-generation Canadian.
First, “we should leave” Why? This world doesn’t belong to one type of people.
Canadian govt brought us here with false promises. If you were buying a car and it didn’t work, you would sue the company or ask for a refund at least. Cause you have your rights as a human. We are not second-class citizens, and we can demand change or even sue the govt.
Second, based on your statement, it implicates the idea that Canada should be accepted as status quo. Why? The status quo is a European mindset in the context of Canada. No, we are not Europeans, and we will change it to suit our way as well. This is a multi-cultural country, not Europe cultural Canada. I didn’t see the invaders accepting the status quo before they massacred the natives. Your colonial mindset is clearly showing. Every country the British invaded, they didn’t want to leave. They were forced out. So, it seems you don’t want to leave as well. Then don’t tell others to leave.
Canada tells people to leave cause people like you don’t like it. That’s abhorrent. Who put you as a judge? Typical colonial mindset. You think your thought is better. Democracy means tolerance to people who think differently.
Third, “Pack your bags” is what you said. We are not bag packers like you people. We come with family, luggage, and life savings. It’s precisely the reason many complain. You will never understand. You may backpack at 40 yrs in Thailand thinking you are discovering life, but we know the truth. lets not talk about it. Also, you get help from govt. it shows no sense of responsibility and accountability. Getting the govt to help you in times of need and at other times, you say freedom is more important. You can’t have it both ways. That’s hypocritical and opportunistic. Who helps the immigrants? now you can learn to understand the hardness of life for immigrants.
Fourth, “You won’t be missed”. Data proves otherwise. Yes, Canada does miss us. Canada needs immigrants’ money to run their healthcare. Cause the natives won’t let you take resources and European invaders don’t want to work hard. There is only one option left. Steal other’s money with false pretense. That’s what the Canadian government does. Smart immigrants don’t stay in Canada. They leave. Only a bunch of unambitious people left over. Then you take the good jobs which you can’t do. To do high-tech good jobs, you need to study. Canadians don’t want to study. They want to enjoy life.
In the US, because of the constitution and every one equal, the best survive and immigrants flourish here in upper levels of society. KKK supporters want to implement laws just like the European invaders that limit immigrants. This is exactly what you are saying to do by limiting immigrants. If you don’t know what I am talking about, ask the medical physicians union of Canada how they limit foreign highly qualified doctors. Read the story of Erik Steffen. In the US, we immigrants have forced the government to recognize qualifications.
We immigrants are highly qualified to do any job including your job of sitting at the beach and it’s been proven time and time again in the western world so wake up from your delusions. We are having children, juggling high-tech jobs, having time to follow religious duties, and anything else you want to throw at us without going into drugs, welfare, or divorce. 80% of the population live in Asia and we are getting educated and coming to any place on this planet that we can have opportunities in just like the European invaders did in centuries previously. This land, that you think is yours but how wrong you are, is also due to the invaders coming here. if they limited themselves, you wouldn’t be here. So, we immigrants will not be limited by you.
Lastly, I DID LEAVE but that doesn’t mean anything. This is my country, and I will change it for the better for my fellow Canadians. The future is all about education and innovation. That’s who we want in Canada, not pessimistic, racist people, scammers, and nepotistic people like you Dally. Many immigrants from Asia and Africa will be more beneficial to Canada’s economy, so all I can say in conclusion is this:
“Educate yourself and learn to critically understand what is right and truth from wrong and lies. If you can’t do that best is that you pack your bags and go back to where you came from and take all your like-minded friends and relatives with you. I GUARANTEE you, DALLY, won’t be missed at all!”
It seems like a slumlord or racist Canadian wants immigrants to pay for their retirements. This is why the site is being trolled by haters.
Prove me wrong on any of these combinations or even one:
Air Canada aircraft you use: not made in Canada
Covid vaccine you use: not made in Canada
Computers you use: not made in Canada
Telecom Satellite you use: not made in Canada
Social platforms you use (FB, Twitter, Insta, etc.): not made in Canada
Electronic pay systems (VISA, MC, etc.): not made in Canada
microchips: not made in Canada
Cars: not made in Canada expect a few plants in Ontario
Let’s go to job sector-
Construction jobs: not even relevant in Canada except the 3 major big cities
Scientist jobs: hardly a lot
Consultant positions: practically nonexistent. My professors from Europe would come for days and they got 30,000 pounds per visit.
Only good thing is Canadian healthcare which is funded by FDI from rich immigrants .
So why is Canada bringing in educated people from other places who study half their life until the age of 35 years?
If you want laborer to do service jobs like food delivery, clean toilets, bring in labor people from underdeveloped countries like many other countries do under a labor visa. These laborers will truly love Canada with all their hearts and be grateful forever. Don’t scam educated people with degree from prestigious universities to come to and do the jobs and not complain when falsely advertising doctor or scientist jobs where is barely any.
So, what is Canada best for? How come I find jobs in other parts of the world but not in Canada? How would Canada survive without the US beside it and yet Canadian’s whine about US? USA is a global leader and superpower (something Canada never will be with that colonial mindset)
I speak 4 languages with experience working for government. Why should I work in security or restaurant waiting for someone else to open doors for me? This is why USA is far ahead and better.
Canada is in blissful ignorance. Get a life and educate yourself to the reality of this world.
You are a whining and whinging infantile complainer that both believes that you are owed and entitled to certain things. You are not owed, or entitled to anything, in this country, or anywhere else.
“That is why USA is far ahead and better.” Pack your bags sport and try not to let the door hit you on your way out. As you say, “Get a life.” , unless whining, complaining, and gaming the system is your entire ‘woke’ life. Poor you. If life is so bad here, in this country, move. And take all of your friends, relatives, and fellow complainers with you. By the way, you should take the time to really listen to your foolish, boring, and tiresome self.
In the meantime, take some time off from your endless complaining to grow up, if that’s possible. Hopefully, I won’t be seeing you, or anyone like you anytime soon, because what a drag it would be to have to both see you and listen to your constant, endless whining and infantile crying. It is really painful and sad. So very sad. For you.
When will you pay back the monies to the immigrants who were lied and fooled into migrating to Canada? You can’t take their money and tell them to go back to where they came from: You are not being fair.
Another lame “wokester” confused know it all to the proverbial “rescue”. How timely!
“You are not being fair.” Really!! Physical existence itself is not fair. Never was. Open your eyes and have a real good look around. It has been that way for many ages. The determinism of the ‘genetic lottery’ is ample proof.
You happen to live, rightly or wrongly, in a global society that has decided to base itself upon the myth that is the maximization of individual “self (selfish) interest”, at any dog eat dog cost. If you were a so called winner in that game, you would not be on this board whining and complaining. You would be out celebrating and bragging to anyone and everyone about how marvelously gifted, talented, and clever you are at being so wonderfully rich and successful.
You haven’t answered my question. Instead you posted a rambling of nonsense.
First, avail yourself of an English as second language course, if you do not understand basic English.
Second, your question is answered in the concept of ‘due diligence’. You do your own ‘due diligence’, BEFORE making any major (and sometimes even minor) undertaking(s) in this life, if you are an adult. That is assuming that you are both an adult and are cognitively able to make such decisions. That is, you are not cognitively, or intellectually impaired. The fact that certain people may lack the adequate intellectual means to do so, means that, first they should not be making those decisions in the first place and second, if the resulting wrong decision is made because the individual did not perform the required due diligence , or the individual lacks adequate intelligence, or has not bothered to obtain all of the necessary information ect., then the resulting consequences based upon faulty assumptions and faulty decision making are of their own making and choosing. Was anyone coerced, or forced against their will to make a recent decision to migrate to Canada?
There are NO GUARANTEES in this life. NONE. ZERO. If you do not understand that very simple basic concept, you are either very naive, or very silly. Just because it is assumed that you or someone else has made a foolish mistake, or foolish mistakes, according to the amount of whining and crying on this thread, do not expect anyone else to accept responsibility for your own personal decisions. Adult individuals accept that they are responsible for their own decisions, the good ones and the bad ones. That is called being accountable to ONESELF. You are responsible for you and your decisions. Is that clear enough?
Further, the entire global economic system is based on exploitation, or advantage seeking, or maximizing individual self interest, of one type or another. As are most interactions between individuals. That observation is hardly original. The strong exploit the weak, the winners exploit and take advantage of the losers. It is what people want, because the losers have the dream of becoming winners one day and the winners seem to like things the way they are. In the meantime, keep chasing your piece of cheese, knowing that one day very soon (because earthly existence is very short) you will no longer exist and that the things that bother and trouble you now, will cease to do so, permanently.
OK Boomer.
oh really, not owed anything or entitled? really?? Canadian govt takes taxes cause they are entitled to. they really dont care what a person thinks. why do you get paid for a job? its not entitled. then quarrel over money. its precisely because you are entitled to.
its your philosphy in the west that everything needs to be earned. thats why you are struggling. in non west countries, people get jobs when they finish, get married in a timeframe, have kids at a certain age, retire at a certain age. they dont need to fight and earn everything.
Canada relies on a steady stream of middle class immigrants to fund the retirements of the crony capitalists, rentier slumlords and the Canadians reaching retirement age. It’s a Ponzi scheme.
There is no reason to be fooling over 400,000+ educated and middle class foreigners a year to bring money to migrate to Canada to work as toilet cleaners when there are millions of starving refugees who will be glad to leave their countries to better their lives.
Why does Canada need a steady supply of middle-class foreigners in emerging economies to live in Canada working at Tim Hortons and paying high rents for the privilege of living in a cold country, temperature and social wise?
Lots of educated Chinese and Indians migrated here and many left and found it to be a waste of time for their personal and career life. Canada lies to these educated foreigners who are making good money in their home countries, to have them come here to live a lower income and destitute life after their life savings are depleted?
Why are Canadians hostile to the idea of bringing in 500,000 poor and starving immigrants a year rather than educated Indians and Chinese?
Dally,
You are an idiot if you say strong exploit the weak. Come tell me at my home and your behind will be riddled with bullets. That European nonsense does not work here. Trump tried those stupid ideas too and will spend rest of his life fighting all kinds of lawsuits. Guns and laws are there so that strong do not exploit the weak. And Canada is not as free as you think. Canada must follow America because its prosperity depends on it.
These Old Stock Canadians want to sell a bill of goods to middle class foreigners and them force them to work dead-end factory jobs and general labour jobs.
Did anyone ask for your dumb suggestion. You better pack your bags and go somewhere shit like you looks good.
Are corrupt politicians and businessmen from India, etc to blame for promoting the scam? Like, buying dozens of GTA homes with ill-gotten gains, and then lying to Indians to migrate to Canada to work to pay the rent under coercion?
Alison Redford is a politician. She helped a third world government in South America to sign a contract which will exacerbate the oil curse, increasing the immigration to Canada. This is how Canada robs countries and destroys lives.
I would beg to differ. Canada did a service in return for another service even if the terms may appear worse. The US also robs, destroys lives, and exacerbates. To this day, they exercise their soft power with anyone who opposed their core principles. Brain drain was coined because of the mass migration to the US. Canada did something in their interest but so does every other country. Self interest isnt the problem. Rather the deceit to achieve it is.
Canada is part of NATO. It’s a vassal state of the US.
Whenever the US wants to invade and destroy “third world countries”, Canada sends some of their troops, like what is happening in Ukraine today.
Middle class Indians are smart people.
They just have to observe who works for minimum wage at dead-end jobs in warehouses and factories, where their every move is monitored for Managers who are mainly Canadians of a certain background. The Canadians get paid the real wages and get pensions, benefits and more rights than the immigrants.
Dr. Fakih, the owner of Paramount Foods is a hero for immigrants.
The man is a philantropist who helped stop bigots from preaching more hate against immigrants.
He sued a blogger for posting hate libel, and the bigot has to pay $2.5 million dollars in damages.
The blogger, Kevin Johnston, is known to have ties with other bigots, like the Markham bigot who yells “Yama Yama” to the faces of young brown people in Toronto.
Anyone who preaches hate against wealthy immigrants get sued or has to go in jail for hate crimes.
Canada is a scam and Ponzi scheme.
The Old Stock Canadians want immigrants to pay their mortgages and retirement, while voting for right wing causes to drive down wages and the standard of living.
I don’t believe it’s “Old Stock” Canadians who are 100% in this scam.
“International students” from India tell me that they were lied to migrate to Toronto, and they end up working in factories, and having to pay half of their earnings in rent for a room owned by a ” businessman”, “corrupt politician from India/Pakistan”, etc. It’s definitely a Ponzi scheme. There are twenty “international students” living in a nuclear- family sized homes in Brampton, paying half of their wages in rent.
I thought Canada was a tolerant country. Why are they that tolerant to allow Polish nationalists and Golden Dawn fascists to grow their roots in the most multi-cultural city in North America?
Next time, ask the Polish nationalist why did they leave Poland to live to Toronto, that is, if they don’t act violent.
Did you not take history or watch the news, plenty of documentaries. That country and its people have suffered for generations, they only got their independence, I believe in 1993.
Do not judge others, we are all products of what we have lived.
No wonder a million Canadians have left their birth country.
What do you think Canada was like before we let immigrants in???? We are too nice to accept ungratefulness. Read my previous post and start to educate yourself and others.
I do know a little bit about India’s history, a failed economy etc., we are not stupid dull Canadians that are uneducated to what is happening in the world. We are the first country in with relief, something to be proud of, it is the everyday civilian who is behind this not our government. This is why Canadians are loved all over the world, because of their generosity and their hearts. I have two neighbors who are Indian and they are the best along with one Pakistan . We are suffering from this economy also but we forge onward. Look at the crime we have had to suffer the last twenty five years from opening our doors up, do we really want this. Indian is a land of corruption and failed governments, did you expect Canada to be perfect? We lost our country also.
We will await your apology.
I am horrified at your expectations when most are fleeing for their lives, etc.
Cry me a river with that dog whistle of crime increasing because of “opening the borders for the last 25 years”. Many Canadian seniors are renting out their rooms to immigrants for $700 a month tax free to fund their retirement while hoarding Toronto homes to become richer. Canada is a scam.
Canada was letting Immigrants in since the invasion of the First Nations in the early 1600s. Your problem is that you want European immigrants such as the Polish skinhead to settle in Canada.
However, many white Europeans have no savings and rely on the Ponzi scheme of real estate bubbles to fund their retirements, just like Canada. This is where the generational wealth of the Asians are to be exploited by the lies of Canada.
It is the racist Canadians who are ungrateful for lying to educated and middle class non-whites to migrate to a country which gives them a worse outcome than if they stayed in their home countries.
It’s a cruel irony that Canada asks for upper middle class professionals to work as cleaners, factory workers and general labourers.
It sucks being conned by the immigration lawyers to work in dead-end factory jobs. The jobs don’t provide dental, vision or therapy benefits. Working like a paid slave to forfeit over 50% of your earnings to rent a cockroach apartment.
Better life for your children who will leave you to die alone in a retirement home or homeless after they become Canadianised, good luck to that. Children and dogs have more rights than adults in Canada. Fathers are marginalised by the corrupt police forces.
The Ramble Park incident in NYC was a Caucasian Canadian woman trying to get the NYPD to murder a member of the BIPOC and LGBT community by accusing him of harassing her. Canada is a HELL if you are not rich like the owners of Bell, Rogers, Bronfman and Loblaws.
My bf works through an agency at a factory for $15.25/hr, but he got injured and WSIB paid him for his chiropractor who charged ten times his wage, $165/hr to massage his broken back. Canadians get high wages, while the immigrants get peanuts.
Canada got racist and hateful Polish nationalists encouraging young white men to commit terror attacks against non-whites. The young man who ran over that Muslim family in London, ON was taught by a Polish nationalist.
Howd the job market for indian dentist in canada?
There are Medical doctors from India and Pakistan going back to high school, or working janitor or driver jobs.
Why? The medical profession is regulated and Canadian doctors do not want foreign competition.
The job market for Indian dentists is good, but you have to work as a cleaner, factory worker, janitor and drive taxis. Forget ever thinking of becoming a medical doctor in Canada unless they offer you a placement in a hospital like the NHS in the UK.
Taxpayer funded Toronto Police are enforcing COVID evictions on tenants on behalf of private landlords. Canada is becoming a police state.
The job market is bad for employees. Applicants are begging to work for lower than the national wage because they can’t find a job, especially in Toronto.
The Polish nationalist gets paid on average $16-25 per hour because they mainly work in the trades, with sole proprietors of their own background, thus, higher pay and more demand for skilled trades.
while newcomers from Asia get paid $14/hr because of the job market and unfair labour standards working for systemically racist Canadian corporations.
Yet the Polish nationalist allege that Asian immigrants take away jobs, or they end up on welfare, or they both take away jobs, end up on welfare, and join Islamic extremist groups because they are brown. To hell with Poland.
Isn’t it irony that educated and well-off immigrants migrate to Canada to live like second class citizens, and work like animals? Factories treat non-white people like animals, even worse. Canadians love animals, but treat immigrants at factories worse than a stray dog.
Canadianer, why did Alison Redford go to Ghana and rob the people of their oil?
Canadianer must have gotten his comment in moderation, for posting a racist Polish nationalist response, or like any pale Canadian, refuse to answer questions which expose their hypocrisy.
Canadians go to Muslim cities in the oil-rich Middle East to take the jobs from the Arabs.
Canadians have politicians like Alison Redford who rob the poor citizens in poor 3rd world countries of their resources, such as the Ghana oil contract.
Canadian Boomers have become rich due to mass immigration increasing demand for their termite-infested plyboard houses that were bought for a years’ salary working in a unionized factory. Boomers dislike unions today!
You are obviously a no-brain hill-billy. Saudi Arabia is a right wing nationalist country that is even worse than Poland. They only allow temporary foreign workers. The fact that you don’t know that is just evidence that you are all a bunch of uneducated crybabies. Try getting an education so that you don’t have to emigrate to countries to live among people that you hate.
I could care less about that backwards, and medieval country that the Europeans have propped up using OPEC and oil purchases.
No one cares if you care or not. The world is moving just fine without you. canada is worse than them. Hiding behind the achievements of others and thinking it is developed. Turns out expats are coming over and taking over Canada
Educated migrants come to Canada to clean toilets, and Canadians tell those immigrants that it’s part of adjusting to a new life in a new country.
Alison Redford should be cleaning toilets and doing factory jobs in Ghana, but no, like white Canadians, they get the best jobs anywhere in the world while treating the citizens of those countries as illiterates.
I usually never comment on any stories I write but probably this is my first time. I didn’t read all the years and years of comments but its a nice mix. Being an immigrant with family myself, I would like to talk about my experience after and ready for any rude comments.
First of all, I don’t think any country can be paradise until you are born powerful/rich/lucky or you work like crazy. But then again, if you work hard why would you call the country paradise its your hard work. I am not gonna give specifics because your comment will hurt me bad.
I immigrated with my spouse decades ago. We used to be very successful back home in high technical expertise position. My spouse was extremely interested in furthering education so we immigrated to Canada because we didn’t have that opportunity back home. We came here. Even with CGPA 3.95/4.00 and IELTS score of 8.0(my spouse’s English is really good) in double bachelors and multiple hundreds applications and networking . Still not got education opportunities and jobs in the fields. Trust me we have spent a lot in help in job recruitment.
Working small jobs and getting hopeless more and more have been our norm. I know a rejection in job application is ok but when you are rejected for years and years, you feel like something is wrong with you. It’s extremely depressing.
Canada is discriminatory towards educated immigrants. Canada is only good for those who are non-entities in their home countries and have nothing to lose by migrating such as war victims and oppressed minority groups. Educated immigrants suffer terribly in Canada.
What is wrong with you people? Just about every doctor I have is a landed immigrant. Get real here, McMaster only had 160 spots opened up this year to become a doctor with only 10% woman. Now tell me what you are complaining about.???
Hamilton Health Services allows them to get their residencies here and believe me they do not what to return to the homelands. I worked for a company years ago and just about every born Canadian had a university degree with no job, so they took a job in the factory. This nonsense you speak of was an issue her twenty five years ago, long be before you arrived here. The immigrants only made this problem worse. Get the facts and ask some questions before you open your mouths. Educate yourselves before you talk nonsense. Too angry to say more. Maybe volunteering would open your eyes.
Quit posting racist dog whistles. Immigrants were lied to migrate to Canada to work as general labourers to enrich the Old Stock Canadian retirements.
How will your tenant working for free pay for your retirement?
Yes you are right. It is depressing. I used to write supportive comments here till i did my Phd from UK. Now i just write the worst here. Canadians are self entitled and rightous in their mind. This makes them arroagent and they already are ignorant. They have no understanding of life complexities or any ambition of pushing their boundaries.
I only got security job. I cant sustain myself with the huge debt i have from studies.Seems like UK and USA knows how to respect talent and i hope i can move out of this country. There is no future here for ambitious people.
Canada welcomed educated migrants to work like animals. Racist Americans treat Mexican refugees better than how Canada treated educated immigrants who came to Canada with money, hopes and dreams of a better future. Imagine a white Canadian lady yelling at you in the warehouse after you complained that a co-worker got crushed to death by faulty machinery. Yet, the company is anonymous and the owners are anonymous and the establishment wants to shut you down for speaking up. This is Canada.
Disturbing. All of these experiences collectively are abominable and human rights violations, abuse and fatal outcomes should face the brunt of the law. I could not stay in such toxicity as mental health problems in this country continue to soar and multiply.
Don’t forget that therapy is not funded by the government, and the factory worker has to pay a lot, like $200/hr to talk to a Canadian-born therapist who will get the police to monitor the immigrants for wrong speech.
If Canada views foreign work experience and education as inferior, then why did Alison Redford go to Ghana and rob the Ghana people of their oil? Why didn’t Ghana hire their own experts to negotiate with the ExxonMobil companies? This is what I don’t get with Canadians. Alison Redford, a white Canadian went to a third world country to shaft them of the oil contract.
Ghana and many others dont know the real truth. Survey in some third world countries revealed that people think canada is lined with golden lamps and temples. They think Canada is high tech country and try to come here. Sadly, once they come, they realise. I have many friends in Jordan and Egypt who are doctors and want to come to Canada. I told them the truth.
People unknowingly invite Canadians thinking they are highly educated but now people are starting to wake up.
I would not even recommend your Middle Eastern doctor friends to migrate to Europe unless they are Christians and don’t look like the scapegoat of the far right movements.
Canada isn’t as terrible as France and Europe, but educated immigrants are discriminated.
Why not send them to Saudi arabia? The answer is thr brown muslim rich world doesnt want you. Neither does india or china. Why are Europeans bad for not wanting them?
Why do white people assume that I was talking about Saudi Arabia?
Do you know that Saudi Arabia buys military vehicles from Canada?
You are hypocrites man.
Why are NATO countries destroying the Middle East and robbing Africa of their resources, like Alison Redford did to the Ghanians and the oil contracts?
Why do Canadians expat in Dubai, Doha, Riyadh and other Muslim cities?
Europeans invaded and colonized brown and black countries.
Canada LIES to foreigners to migrate and study in Canada.
I don’t see Saudi Arabia colonizing or advertising to migrate to their countries!
Yet Canadians are in Saudi Arabia and are bringing the Canadian lifestyle to the Middle East and not respecting the laws of the Middle East!
HYPOCRITE!
Because you ignorant person, educate yourself. The western country shows off their freedom and right like they are the only ones. Saudi or india or china doesnt do that. So we dont expect it from them. Canada puts ad for doctors and so on. If you put immigration ads for new opportunities, then its ok. Canada doesnt. Therefore, based on a lie statement, they are liers and scammers. Would someone who is highly educated want to do low level jobs? To answer this question, think this. Would you go back to high school when you already finished college?
The Polish nationalist and Hungary xenophobia is typical of the average bigoted Canadian. They are hypocrites to lie to immigrants to come to Canada, and then tell those immigrants that they should go to Saudi Arabia for jobs.
Countries like Saudi and Qatar should enforce their ancient laws on Canadians who violate the country’s laws. Many Canadians are making more money in Qatar than they did in Canada, yet Canadians want to walk nude on the streets of Arabia.
@Canadinier. Saudi and India etc. do not have open immigration policies, Europe does. So, Europe has to be kinder. The thing is, Europe is full of hypocrites, they really are third-world countries, but they want to call themselves developed for appeasement of their own ego. China, India, and Saudis do not do that. They are much honest. Europe will advertise that it is a welcoming society just to look good. When people believe it and immigrate then they say why did you come here. Well, they should know the answer. When China asked US Navy why are you sailing in the South China Sea, the US Navy’s answer was: We sail wherever international law allows us to sail. So Europe and Canada should know that an immigrant will go to any country where the law allows them to go. If you don’t like it then change the law and admit that you are a third world country! You cannot have an open immigration law and then say that people should not immigrate. Honesty is what people are asking for here.
Parag, the hypocrisy from bigoted Europeans is astounding. They lie to foreigners to migrate, and then when the immigrants end up wasting their life savings, the bigots tell the immigrants to go back to where they came from. Many Indian immigrants come to Canada with millions of dollars, only to be treated worse than refugees.
The major issue with the bigots is that they depend on mass immigration to boost their retirement funds, stocks, and house prices. What a way to treat immigrants by lying to them to spend their riches in Canada and then be treated as refugees.
Asian Doctors have better prospects in UK than canada ,atleast britishers have a fairer system of evaluating foreign medical credentials unlike CANADA where foreign doctors are being professionally handicapped by several regulations and bureaucratic barriers.
The NHS has less barriers to entry, but in Canada, you could be the #1 world surgeon in Thailand or India, and the receptionist will view that Medical Doctor as an illiterate caveman from the prehistoric era.
Canada is a scam. The population is being controled with population control measures like feminism, anti-male laws and a police force which treats men who are accused of offending women worse than Bin Laden bringing down 100 storey towers in the downtown core.
You have a point, despite the hyperbole conspiracy jargon.
Canada has very low birth rates, and they require new fools to prevent the Ponzi scheme economy from going into decay. Birth rates will always be the same, or decline, because for every immigrant who gets caught up, there is a new fool landing in Toronto.
Canada erases vital information on police corruption and political scandals on Wikipedia. Even Wikipedia does not believe that Canada had only one incident of police corruption.
What are the job prospects in smaller cities like halifax,alberta.Is it better than vancouver and toronto?But i know for sure that saskatchewan is too cold to settle for a family
If you’re not white, be prepared to be treated like trash. The police don’t do anything unless a racist commits a mass murder. Non-white lives have no value in Canada. If you talk back to the mass shooter as he murders your entire family, YOU get charged for hurting the feelings of the white person.
The unspoken rule is that 99.9% of immigrants end up living in the three big cities of Toronto, Vancouver or Montreal. This is “Canada”. It’s a grid of hardship and indentured labourers. At least the indentured Indian labourers who worked in Africa and the Caribbean had free housing and lived in warm climates. Canadian weather can cause death during winter. Frostbite. Hypothermia. Heart attacks by heat stroke and wind chills.
The land of broken dreams.
I was told a lie. How my work experience and education would translate to a job in my field.
Ten years later, I can’t find a job in my field. I am penniless and don’t have money in the bank right now.
I am one pay cheque away from homelessness.
Why did I move here?
This country is not what it seems. The rankings and freedom indices are all fake. If you live in a city like Toronto, where many immigrants are stuck in, you will live to experience the crime, police corruption and inequality that would make third world dictatorships blush. You can die of frostbite and the cold weather here.
Living as an upper class in a third world country is way better than being the working poor in an extremely cold country like Canada where you are treated as a second class citizen.
Don’t let the Polish or Hungarian nationalist let you down. Avoid Polish nationalist ghettos like Etobicoke, Islington and Royal York area of Toronto.
Poland and Hungary are going to be expelled from the EU, and this means that Poland and Hungary will have to adapt from being a parasite to being tolerant in a globalized market.
The population of Poland and Hungary are declining and this should be a cause of celebration if this means less Polish nationalist garbage causing racism in Toronto.
The Polish nationalist speaks a uncivilized language not from any world empire, yet they demand that Canada accomodate their foul language while dissing the Indian immigrant whose English is more British than the King’s tongue.
Countries like India, China, Thailand and other ASEAN countries have higher GDP growth than Canada.
Canada lies to the successful and middle class in those countries to dump their money into the scam called Canada.
The job market is discriminatory towards foreign credentials. Don’t believe the snake oil salesman masquerading as an immigration consultant. Read the case law of Selladurai Premakumaran, a British-educated accounting professor who had to shovel snow and clean toilets. It’s a life that you don’t want for yourself and your family.
Canadian schools treat men of ASEAN origin like criminals. When your son gets bullied or abused by a student or teacher, the school boards cover up the story and they sometimes send police to arrest the parent and their lawyers when they are considering legal action, by false flag accusations of trespassing (setting up innocent people and framing them for vandalism or damage to school property).
If you think India is corrupt in terms of the police, you should migrate to Canada and live to experience the laws which protect the pales. The situation in Syria doesn’t help, because you could be as brown and highly educated wearing suit and tie, but the Canadians will assume that you’re a returning ISIS combatant.
THINK VERY HARD before coming to Canada to destroy your life.
Your comments on modest GDP growth are accurate. The economy is attempting to make a transition to being knowledge based. There is some displacement of traditional employment, and “traditional” work, such as manufacturing, etc. is scarce.
Credentials are often not accepted, or require upskilling or examinations. There are also challenges in entering the labour market. Even if the hiring manager has good intentions and is not racist, he or she may be more willing to bring someone on who has been recommended by a close, trusted contact.
If you are entrepreneurial and can enter into a field that is primarily based on your skills as opposed to credentialing (e.g. you have homebuilding/renovations skills, can run a business, sell, etc), that will make it easier. If you rely on credentials, understand that there will be *two* hurdles -acceptance of those credentials plus entry into a crowded market where there may be a lot of competition
Your comment is good for someone who doesn’t have that much to lose for immigrating (i.e. young people), but for the target market of the immigration scammers (middle aged, land-owning and asset bearing professionals)…Why leave their lives of comfort to clean toilets in Toronto? Are East Indians that brainwashed to worship the white culture? You got physicians from India who sold their houses at below market prices to rent cockroach apartment in Toronto.
If you’re educated with a decade of work experience, and you are not offered a promotion in a Canadian company before migrating, I advise that you don’t come. You will be trapped and have to work dead-end jobs.
There are horror stories of high caste merchant class men from India cleaning toilets and shoveling snow, despite studying for Canadian education with their own money that they brought from India. Toronto is a scam.
America has more non-white millionaires and billionaires per capita than Canada. The Indian physician cleans toilets or drives a taxi cab in Toronto. Beware!
Canada it’s not a fool’s paradise but a realist’s hell. My biggest mistake was not saving money from day one to leave this police state called Toronto.
Trust me on this.
The system in Canada is becoming prejudicial towards the educated immigrant.
There are tons of stories where educated middle class immigrants, mainly educated Indian and Middle Eastern men being treated like criminals because the pales do not like them at the workplace.
The city of Toronto is becoming a city for the rich and indentured poor class. Those who have no problem working in menial jobs for the rich class living in Toronto.
If you’re an educated young man, and you want to save your life, DON’T come to Canada, especially in Toronto. This country is a police state and they protect the white lady, just like the Queen of England is the Head of State of Canada, not Justin Trudeau.
Why do you guys move to British colonies if the Queen offends you? India and Nigeria and China are all rising countries that immigrants are moving to nowadays and they don’t have to worry about the Queen of England. Why not pick a country that suits you better?
This is exactly what I do not like with Canada and Canadians. They have a wrong system and if someone says so, then they question why do you question our system? Well, just because something is wrong does not mean that it cannot be fixed. That’s why Canada should have a constitutional amendment and throw the queen out because having the queen in place creates a system of institutional discrimination. If immigrants have a problem with it, then it is not wrong. Many immigrant Canadian citizens have a problem with that and those who say that this is OK are racists. If they are not then they should be able to logically justify this inherent class-based or kiss a** Canadian set-up. The same thing applies to the UK as well. Canadians are the biggest hypocrites when they say they value human rights or even they are a developed nation. Canada is a dump. It is a good place to visit but within a week, a person starts to get sick of Canadian society and its hubris.
Canada is the only country in the world where an Indian with a MD or Phd is forced to clean toilets for a living, while Canadians defend it as protecting jobs and the health care system. As if the UK NHS doesn’t import migrant doctors and train them for a few years while they work in their field, albeit a lower job title.
Parag, Toronto is the epitome of British-Queen Elizabeth wannbe-ism. They are mimicking Drake’s fake British accent, though his record label in the USA probably taught him to use that role to make money.
The entire problem with Canada is that racism is hush-hush, while in the USA, racism topics are allowed for debate, even when there is a “Canadian” like Trump to preach hate.
It is an insult that hard working Indian migrants are forced to clean toilets and serve coffee at Tim Hortons, despite having work experience and education that is equivalent to that of a Phd or Medical Doctor. the system is stacked against the immigrant, and these days, it’s worse because house prices and overpopulation in Toronto are a burden. There are 3.1 million people in Toronto today compared to 2.5 ten years ago.
Damn.
you cherrypicked three words from an entire comment. Fail. The Queen is a representative of racism, but not the only problem.
The problem is that the Canadian immigration system is a scam that robs middle class migrants of their savings and assets to live in a dump of Toronto.
Look here! A wannabe Polish or Hungarian nationalist filth!
Canada LIES to foreigners to immigrate to Canada!
Foreign embassies tell Indians that Canada is the land of milk and honey, and that the Canadian women are willing to marry Indians, which is propaganda to entice Indian men to find a marriage partner in a country which is populated by women who are not like those of the Far East.
Canada doesn’t advertise to immigrants that the Queen of England is the head of state. Why did the British murder millions of Aboriginals during the exploration of the New World?
To be honest, even a Canadian-born doesn’t take note that there is a Crown as Head of State until mostly Torontonians start mimicking Drake and his fake British accent to ride on the wave of UK drill music.
The Polish or Canadian nationalist benefit from the EU and mass immigration housing demand respectively.
Canadianer is acting hypocritical and his comments attempt to gaslight immigrants down on their luck by the racist Polish-Canadian nationalist. Many Eastern European countries transformed into riches because of living off the backs of the EU countries like the UK and Germany, countries which accept migrants and immigrant education.
I dont know when will the obsession for vancouver and toronto among the immigrants will end.Both are overrated and very expensive cities to settle,but indians and other third world immigrants are desperate to move to any north american city.They dont realize that snakeoil salesman aka immigration consultants have created a trap for all of them.Even to get 40000 dollar/annum jobs, is very difficult for any non white immigrant in the above mentioned cities.
Canada is less freer than India for a middle class man. It’s common for brown and black men to get harassed by police for disputes with white females. There is no legal recourse for obtaining justice because this is how it goes:
A Pale Canadian lady is racist towards browns and blacks at her workplace. She harasses brown men because she can’t get away with being racist towards black people due to the history of slavery and the civil rights movement.
Mr. Prem Kumar is being accused of either 1)harassment, 2) sexual harassment or 3) any other bogus crime
The police are called, but most likely Toronto Police, York Region Police and Durham Regional Police are the most involved.
Mr. Prem Kumar is warned that if the Canadian lady does not like him, he can be arrested for those charges.
Mr. Prem Kumar tries to get a civil action to sue, etc.
Toronto Police go with guns and tasers to Mr. Prem Kumar’s home, arrest him, and intimidate his wife and children.
Mr. Prem Kumar is forced to go on a peace bond, and he can’t sue the police because no lawyer will take on his case due to the peace bond.
Mr. Prem Kumar was a physician in India, and now, he’s in jail because of a Canadian lady.
Definitely it seems australia has better prospect for immigrants,even though they are racist as these toxic feminism is not in their society and their lawbooks,You cant sleep on roads in canada of you become jobless due to extreme subzero temperature.
Canadians expect Indian physicians to clean toilets and pay $2500 a month to rent cockroach apartment in Toronto.
Toronto Police are corrupt and the provincial police are racist and side with whites.
The Polish lady was released on bail, and she might get away with a fine of less than $500 for “vandalism”, rather than the directed hate crime against the African-American victim. Such a shame that the bigoted Polish nationalist can get away with harassing non-whites, while a non-white would probably get beaten to death by the TTC police for being merely accused of not paying the fare. There must be change. You can’t have Polish nationalists yelling the n-word on black people and destroying property by writing racial slurs in the subway.
Poland and Hungary are so racist that if a meteor landed to extinct those racist countries the world will be a better place. For once, the Polish nationalist in Toronto will no longer assume that the educated Indian-Canadian CEO or entrepreneur is a Muslim refugee from North Africa. TThe EU should expel Poland and Hungary from the EU bloc, and ban Polish nationalist and Hungarians from taking jobs away in the EU.
Wow speaking of Polish nationalism, a lady from Poland hurled racist abuse and then wrote a hate crime in the TTC subway. What’s with these Polish nationalists thinking that they can immigrate to Canada and cause racial tensions.
Haha. It is not Polish. It is European entitlement and Christianity in Europe where rich are supposed to redistribute their wealth to take care of the poor. Canada, like it or not, has Capitalist tendencies of America but still considers itself European. So these Polish guys come to Canada thinking that Canada is going to consider their skin color and religion to give preference over other immigrants, but are rudely awakened to find out that it does not necessarily work the way they want. So these Polish guys have to bust their back ends just like most other immigrants and they are also as frustrated as other immigrants with the only difference is that they are not as educated as other “express entry” immigrants. Also, like almost every person in Canada, they also see that they will never get rich and there life is not much better than what it would be in Poland. So, they blame other immigrants in part due to envy and in part due to their own upbringing where they thought that whites are better. Canada is a struggling economy and these incidents will only make those struggles worse. Changes in America will almost ensure that Canada will also end up changing sooner or later. First, Trump needs to go as he is the one who has encouraged such behavior all over the world.
They allege that the Polish lady is a beneficiary of a Toronto habitat for humanity program i.e. a program that provides low cost housing for single mothers. The Polish nationalists and Trump believe that every non-white person is a freeloader, while the racist Polish woman is more likely to be a welfare and non-profit recipient.
UPDATE: The lady was arrested, but the police and media refuse to release her identity, and they did not charge her with a hate crime despite yelling the n-word and writing the word to harass a Black lady.
Doctors and Bank Managers from India and Pakistan are cleaning public toilets and working in factories, while being lumped together with refugees and sometimes violently assaulted by bigots. The Canadian dream is over. The Canadian immigration system is a scam. They just want your money while yelling racial slurs to your face.
Then why still these indian and paki immigrants are desperate to go to canada and settle down with their families,inspite of the fact that they all have to struggle for years to earn a respective income.
Because India is a hopelessly populated and polluted country. There is nothing wrong with coming to Canada with poor education and skills and working as a cab driver or truck driver for the rest of your life. Many people in Panjab may sell their lands and work this way and be happy. It seems you have not read the posts carefully. It is people who are professionals, who have education and high paying jobs in their home countries that are complaining because they thought that Canada has many professional jobs. This is what immigration websites were advertising. IF you are a medical doctor who wants to come to Canada and work as a medical doctor then that is a problem. However, if you want to drive a cab after working as a medical doctor in India for many years then Welcome to Canada! The choice is yours as long as you come in knowing what you will be getting. The problem with a lot of immigrants is that they think it will not happen to us because we are special. Unfortunately, that assumption will fall flat in their face once they know how many “special” immigrants they will be competing with for minimum wage jobs. This is what scams are. They sell your dreams of better future and separate you from your money today.
Exactly. The problems in India are forcing many minority groups to flee at any measure, because it’s better to drive a truck or clean toilets in Canada than to be massacred by religious and cultural zealots back in Asia. However, educated and middle class immigrants are being lured into the trap, and this is what is the problem. A doctor in India who is treated like a diplomat would be rightfully angry being lured into Canada to clean toilets and become victims of hate crimes by uneducated bigots from Europe.
Canada was never a favorite destination for high end professionals like doctors,engineers and scientists.Guys from punjab and middle east who were interested in earning quick bucks by doing plumbing,carpenter and masonry work,found canada an attractive proposition.Canada invites immigrants just to fill its vast frozen landmass,they are never bothered if any immigrant gets a suitable job or not.What they care is to fill their coffers from the tax payers money,specially the cunning canadian government!
Ashu but many doctors, engineers and scientists from abroad are fooled into coming to Canada.
The Canadian government lies to foreigners that their credentials will be accepted as easily as the UK or America. Doctors in Canada have unions which exclude competition from foreign-trained professionals.
There was a story lately of a Polish nationalist wannabe in Houston who followed an Ecuadorian American couple and then tried to murder them with a hammer while yelling “Go back to Mexico”.
The plot twist: The “Mexicans” were medical doctors and the police had to arrest the racist white lady.
The twist will never end there. She will not get her green card because of her record and will certainly be denied US citizenship if she already has a green card. If convicted then her green card could be potentially be revoked. Even if she survives green card revoking and gets to keep her green card, she ain’t getting any respectable job in future due to background checks in most jobs. She will remain poor for life. Welcome to America where you get what you deserve.
The story shows how important one has to get a respectable job to be protected from the uneducated racists. However, in Canada, they bring in all sorts of trash from Europe who bring the racist garbage with them. Toronto has not suffered any problems with refugees for decades, but Poland and Hungary’s nationalist movements are emboldening racists to victimize non-whites in Toronto. Lots of racism lately.
Actually, it is more than that. In Canada like in India, taxes are taken to central location and redistributed so law enforcement does not worry about taxpayers security. In the USA, taxes are collected and used locally. If rich people leave a place due to racism then local police has to cut jobs. As a result, local police takes quick action against anyone who creates problems because their own salaries depend on attracting rich people to their locations. To some extent, the black lives matter problem is also associated with such structure. Law enforcement officers are incentivized to drive out poor blacks and any other trouble makers because they do not contribute towards taxes. The law enforcement offiers can bully blacks to drive them out. This is what people mean by systemic racism. The issues of Capitalism and racism are very intertwined.
At least America respects those who have good jobs. In Canada, one could be a doctor or a Bay Street lawyer, but if they are non-white, they are treated as refugees.
Parag, in Canada and the UK, most Polish and Hungarians are leeches to the system. However, a racist Polish or Hungarian is treated with more respect than an educated Indian businessman or businesswoman whose net worth is in the millions of dollars. Canada is weird in that extent.
Toronto is a scam because they purposely restrict housing supply and lie about jobs to create an underclass of low wage workers competing for high rents. The winner of this scam are the landlords, realtor agents and the lawyers.
BEWARE!
Toronto’s rents are C$1,900 for a family sized apartment, but the monthly wage for the average migrant worker is C$2,000 a month before taxes.
Canadians are told to stay at home, but suddenly, they are forced to work because the government doesn’t have any more money to pay Canadians to stay home. Thousands of businesses have closed, and many more have lost their jobs for refusing to work in a pandemic where there is no health protocol (like in hospitals).
Anti-immigrant hostility might increase. The plan is for the government and the millionaires to increase the immigration quotas to use the migrants as scapegoats for the economic problems.
Now the situation will be more grim after this corona crisis as there will be more layoffs, and the economy will be crippled for a long time,atleast for one year.Immigrants will be the most affected as they will not get any full time job.
Most immigrants were not getting the middle class jobs in the first place. There will always be demand for janitors, cleaners, factory workers and other unskilled labour. This time, Canadians will fight for those low wage jobs because there are no more middle class jobs.
Is it true that corona virus scare will lead to racial profiling of chinese and indians in future in canada?
No thats ridiculus. it can happen anywhere. and why indians?
Hate crimes against Chinese and Asians have increased, but dare complain that European settlers deliberately spread smallpox to reduce the Native Indian population, and one can get violently assaulted.
Polish nationalists and their wives are harassing black people in Toronto by yelling the n-word to them and writing the n-word slur to victimize non-whites. The Polish nationalist believes that Toronto is for his people only, which is why there are so many hate crimes occuring in Toronto lately. These hate crimes are done by Polish and European immigrants, and Canadians are less likely to do brazen acts of hatred. They would post crap online, but the Polish nationalist is harassing non-whites in Toronto.
This website if full of glitches and spam,sometimes we cant see the content or sometimes we cant post comments on it
Sometimes the website gets taken down when someone speaks the truth of the scam that foreign immigrants are being told using lies and deception. No one wants to leave their middle and upper class lifestyles to shovel snow for minimum wage in Canada.
Leave your good job in India or UAE and come to Canada with your money to spend it on rent and work for free or clean factories and toilets!
I’m reading a message board and there is a racist man who confronts “brown” immigrants and yells “Yama Yama” to their faces and he once tried to sexually assault a Muslim woman for wearing her religious attire.
Why are bigoted Canadians assuming that Hinduism is the same as Islam? One poster asked.
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I believe that this man is a member of the Yellow Vests or Northern Guard white supremacist movement.
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My comment: It does appear that the Polish nationalist have influenced Canadians to hate on “brown” immigrants. It’s terrible that the Polish nationalist is turning Toronto into a far-right Warsaw.
Shame!
Imagine going to work in your minimum wage job and the “Yama Yama” man accosts you and tries to assault your wife because she is brown? But if you dare beat him up, off to jail you go, and the landlord evicts you for not paying your rent in time.
I sense a potential civil unrest brewing in Toronto. No one harasses people that way by yelling to their faces, mocking their beliefs, and lumping hardworking Indian immigrants with Arab refugees. The Polish nationalist is trying very hard to foment hate against immigrants in Canada.
You had that Ravi dude who got reprimanded for posting anti-Muslim content on social media. It’s confusing that brown people are racist against other brown people.
Canadian immigration consultants should also stop fooling foreign nationals that they will automatically get a job in their fields, especially for unionized jobs.
Canadian workers don’t pay union dues for even a new local graduate to take away their jobs. What makes you think that they will let a foreigner automatically get a job in the field?
The Canadian immigration lawyers should stop lying to foreigners and ruining their lives.
There are millions of professionals in India & Pakistan who were told that they would automatically get jobs in their fields if they come to Canada. Racism aside, the unions and labour organizations are there to protect their union members. This is a fact.
The UK is only good for financial professionals and doctors, as far as I’ve heard. For anyone else who doesn’t secure a lucrative London job, the UK is a hell hole.
The man should start applying for NHS residency, but under no circumstance become like the millions of fools and severe ties with his home country to end up sleeping on the streets of London or Toronto.
If his skills are need, and they are hiring him, he should consider that he has to return to his homeland, rather than invest everything in those countries and end up with no escape plan.
Working in the NHS is good-paying for now, but I know for fact in Canada that medical doctors are regulated more sternly than the US or UK and they will never let a foreign doctor “work” in Canada as a doctor unless he or she “pays their dues”. It’s not as simple as completing forms. The Canadian medical union is there to protect local doctors.
The Pakistani physician would be a fool to believe that he will get a job instantly as a doctor in Canada, or even the UK, just like that. Local doctors don’t pay tens of thousands of dollars in union fees a year for nothing.
He has to apply using a UK address of his family member or friend, and see where that goes. If he is accepted to be trained in UK or if he is lucky, in Canada, good news, but he shouldn’t sever ties with Pakistan and end up spending everything in London or Toronto.
UK is another example of failed socialist state,its a welfare state which sucks out taxes from the rich and gives to all the drug addicts and low life parasites,you can never become rich unlike capitalist america.
It’s the rich who get tax breaks, while they create housing bubbles and create mass homelessness.
So what happens when Megan Markel and Prince Harry come to Canada and start living there? Do Canadian tax payers have to foot their bills? The UK is pretty bad as far as racism is concerned. It is a cess pool both economically and socially.
The area where they plan to live will skyrocket in price.
Rent prices in Canada are way higher overall than in the USA, yet university graduates are competing for jobs that are unpaid internships.
There is something wrong with Canada. The land prices and housing prices are way high compared to population and land mass. Might as well redraw the Canadian map and exclude 99% of the frozen landmass as Canada.
3.5 million people call Toronto home, and this doesn’t even count the million temporary migrant workers and 500,000 foreign students who study on campus. It’s an overpopulated dump.
Apart from vancouver ,toronto,ottawa and montreal rest of the canada is a frozen wasteland.Canada should completely stop immigration for time being as its infrastructure is crumbling day by day and housing is becoming more unaffordable. Plus lot of chinese have inflated the property prices by pumping black money into canadian real estate
Local Canadians are happy that foreign monies, whether it be legal or illegal funds, are being spent in Canada, but if you’re a Brown or Black professional immigrant wearing a suit and tie, they will accuse you of being a refugee or from a terrorist movement and also believe that they have every right to harass and attack you.
Canada is starting to emulate the racist nastiness from far Europe and this is one reason why professional migrants should NOT come to Canada, because who wants to be treated as a refugee when they are a professional and skilled immigrant?
UK is a welfare state,you cant be rich.i know few guys who under the pretext of higher education worked in UK pubs and lived in ratholes aka sharing rooms to control their expenses,but still when they sent money to india,they seem to be affluent in the eyes of their relatives, as pound has much greater value than INR.But thats it,there is no demand for highly skilled jobs and the salary they pay in UK is just peanuts.Actually all these socialist countries carry a burden of giving free healthcare and unemployment allowance,hence they deduct taxes from working professionals and give most of it to all those free loaders just like canada.I know one dentist who was offered job in NHS for 40000 pounds(almost 40 lakhs INR when converted to indian currency),all these money seemed to appear peanuts for him after he started earning,as tax deduction is aweful both in UK and canada.He was living paycheque to paycheque and returned to india after one year.Both uk and australia are worse for highly ambitious professionals like engineers architects and STEM field experts,USA is much ahead regarding opportunities in tech field.Still all these freeloaders always heap praises for UK and australia by giving examples of free healthcare and no guns,but deep down in their heart they know they are jealous of americans…..
You don’t understand colonialism.
In either case, whether it’s robbing the developing countries of their resources and talent, or conning citizens of developing countries to come to Canada or UK and live like serfs, the rulers win in any case.
I am a pakistani dentist,who wants to settle in canada.is it a wise decision to settle in canada ,or should Itry for UK?
You’re going to have a hard time becoming a dentist, or even work as a dental assistant in Canada. You will even have trouble finding a job cleaning toilets at dental offices.
Beware of this place! There is also anti-Muslim hostility which affects even the Indian Hindus who are mistaken as Muslims.
You could try applying to the NHS in the UK to see if you can work as a dentist in the UK, but in Canada, they will force you to do Grade 12 and complete years of schooling, but they wouldn’t let you work as a doctor.
I even heard of a story of a Pakistani Medical Physician who changed his major to a 2-year diploma because he wasn’t getting through with becoming a doctor in Canada unless he paid over $100,000 in tuition to redo medical school and apply for residency.
I lived in Canada for SEVEN years, completed my high school diploma at age 22, started university at 23, graduated at 28, and now I’m still an unemployed person in $35,000 student loan debt. If it weren’t for my relatives living in Brampton, I would be homeless.
Beware!
It’s the system. You have to work for free for a year, and the employer MIGHT consider hiring you as a full time wage slave. You heard me—Canadian university graduates are competing to work for free, while the Canadian racist sells his house for a million dollars and retire in Asia or Guatemala, but has a Grade 8 education. Canada is a weird country…
2020 is around the corner and this is the difference when immigrating now in major cities such as Toronto:
Expressed at past & today’s dollars
Rent: 1990- $350 ($600)
2000- $600 ($870)
2010-$900 ($1,300)
2020-$1,850 ($1,850)
It’s the same old cockroach apartment, but rent for a one-bedroom 30 years ago was almost 4 times less to rent than today.
but the salary is stagnant and overall no growth in annual increments
CRS score for canadian express entry is now hovering about 470,few months down the line canada will be a difficult country to immigrate like USA,as many immigrants with hi tech degrees are entering canada and creating competetive job market
Canada’s cronies know what they are doing: They are enticing middle and educated foreigners to migrate to Canada and become applicants for general labour jobs and clean public toilets.
Three rape accused were killed in an encounter today by hyderabad police,maybe one of the reason was of political pressure, the other were from several women organizations ,who were using hashtags like toxic males,all males are potential rapist and toxic masculinity should be eradicated.I shudder with fear because many of these women NGOS are funded by bilderberg club and influenced by severe feminine tilted laws prevalent in canada and north america.Feminism will definitely be a major issue for indian males in upcoming years as girls and women are influenced by pseudo women empowerment in canada and other western countries.Encounter and mob justice is never a answer but using these rape incidents to tilt laws in favour of women is certain lethal for any civilized society.
It might be legal in India for females to walk nude in public, just like in Canada.
On other blogs, they post success stories of immigrants.
But highlighting only five success stories, the median being a Bank Manager at RBC working for C$93,500 a year, within a 10 year period of immigration, is like winning the lottery.
There is also an Afghanistan immigrant who had “success” finding a $35,000 a year job, and acts as an immigration mentor on LinkedIn, and shames immigrants who complains of their predicament struggling to pack boxes or mopping public toilet floors, despite being told by Canada that their job experience in India as the top 5%, or their high education would translate into a middle class job in Canada.
35000 is a poverty wage in canada ,i dont know why these low level immigrants act arrogantly, as if they have achieved enormous success.just because in their home country they have not seen these lavish buildings and extra smooth facilities available in these developed countries.I know many immigrants where both the husband and wife do menial jobs and earn 50-60k per annum and have bought their own home but it was almost 10 years ago,now it seems impossible to live comfortable life with this salary in big cities like vancouver and toronto
Rent for a one-bedroom apartment keeps rising rapidly in Toronto these days. It used to be $1,500 last year, but this year it’s $1,800 to $2,000 and this is on the cheap end.
Wages, however, haven’t kept apace with rising costs. The minimum wage increase has no effect because of the extortionist rent prices.
Last year 2-3 indians were burnt alive or killed while studying in poland,maybe in bar brawl or some street fight which definitely makes poland a bad place to travel for non europeans. All these European countries are in mess as there economy is not doing well,many jobless youths have resorted to violence and racist attacks against immigrants in germany and other east european countries.My colleague visited italy and hungary last month and told that once considered a socialist heaven,the current scenario of these countries is messy and gloomy.Many indian tourists are robbed in broad daylight in rome,paris and spain still these european countries potray themselves as a tourist friendly heaven.Just see what happened to greece rest of the europe will fall like pack of cards in coming years…..
Hungary is a far right government. They hate immigrants, regardless of ethnic origin.
But these racist governments have no problem joining the EU, a supposed ‘globalist’ union.
Parag,
So this means that harassing and dehumanizing educated non-white immigrants is considered terrible in the USA, compared to Canada where the Polish or Hungarian nationalist accost and assault educated (Phd degree) Indian immigrants who are walking to classes to redo their Grade 11 and Grade 12?
Some places in Toronto have a feeling that it’s only Polish nationalist and non-whites don’t belong there. It’s entirely different from an immigrant community; it’s more of like Poland or Hungary bringing their racism and hatred to Canada.
You got to get a restraining order from the court if you are harassed repeatedly. If the harassment continues then these guys will have to pay financial penalties or even jail time. You can even sue the city or township for not protecting you from racism if restraining orders are not followed. If those guys threaten you despite restraining orders then you conceal carry a gun and shoot them. With all the orderly methods you have used, no court is going to convict you. You did what you had to do for your constitutional rights. This is what I will do in the USA. American courts are not going to show mercy to people who pay little taxes and cause disruption to the lives of people who pay high taxes. There is discrimination in the USA and that is based on how much money you make. Police, Judges, State, everything gets their salaries from taxes and those who do not pay much in taxes are worth little. Their voices mean little in the justice system as well (it is an unwritten rule though). These losers are the people who find Canada heaven. As I said, if you are not making a lot of money in America then you are wasting time here.
Canada has it backwards then?
I remember someone telling me that a Punjabi-Canadian teenage man was beaten up in a club, and the Punjabi man yelled to his friends “The police took the side of the white boy!”, though the white boy was unemployed, and the young Punjabi man was atheist, and worked for his father’s financial services firm (a subsidiary of BMO).
This is why I say that Canada can bring in an unemployable and unemployed Polish, Greek, Hungarian or Ukrainian nationalist to Toronto, and they have more rights than the millionaire Middle Eastern businessman being harassed by the Polish nationalist and the Ukrainian nationalist with the strong accent.
Canada claims that it’s tolerant, but it seems that Canada only wants the immigrants to spend their money, and once that’s completed, it’s the end of cordial relations.
Sort of like a Ponzi scheme.
Two things that make Canada different. First, it does not have the country quotas. It can in one year bring 100% of all immigrants belonging to any one country. Second, immigrants can come to Canada without jobs. In some cases, Canada brings immigrants who do not have jobs come to Canada with parmenent residency. Neither of these two things can happen in the USA. You cannot come to USA unless you have a job that you obtained competitively (Trump proposed a minimum salary of $110K per year). Second, no one country can monopolize permanent residency in the USA. Only 7% of people belonging to any one country will be alloted green cards. There are US residency requirement for getting a green card. If you have a criminal record during that time then you are denied a green card, serve time and deported. With these rules it will be foolish for immigrant to be racist. In fact, these low educated people cannot even come to USA.
There is a woman with a very thick European accent and poor grammar encouraging “Canadian patriots” to act on violence against non-whites, including African-Americans, for failing to assimilate into Canadian culture; speaking with a thick Polish accent & doesn’t speak English as good.
Canada should completely ban immigration and advertise jobs for carpenters,plumbers and other tradepersons and make it clear that only persons interested to do labour and trade jobs are eligible to get permanent residency of Canada…Then we see how the number of applicants fall drastically!
It’s the ban immigration crowd who is labelling educated and Canadian-born Indians as Syrian refugees. The Polish nationalist believes that every brown and black person is a refugee who refuses to assimilate to Canad; even the former American slaves who brought culture to Toronto and lived in Nova Scotia for centuries.
The backwards Polish nationalist speaks using a thick European accent, yet harasses millionaire franchise owners from opening a downtown restaurant.
Canada imports scumbags like that and makes educated immigrants feel like refugees.
You guys unnecessarily worry about these guys. In time, you will realize that people who try to cause trouble are losers themselves. Why would anyone try to stop the opening of a restaurant in downtown Toronto? Because they see that as competition. If anything, this should make you happy because these losers are realizing that they are losers. I think you guys are projecting and magnifying your fears. No matter how hard these guys try, Canada is a diverse society and this crap is not going to spread on a massive scale like how it would work in Poland and other such European countries. I think these guys are really depressed because they never thought that Canada is a diverse country. When they come to Canada and find out that they have to compete, they realize that they were no different than where they came from. To some extent, this is also what is happening with Indian immigrants.
Parag,
Indian immigrants don’t post death threats against identifable groups, nor are they hypocrites, such as speaking with a heavy Eastern European accent while accusing the former African slaves of not integrating in Canada.
How would the Americans like it if some immigrant from Poland started dissing the African-Americans for not integrating into American culture? The Polish nationalist would be placed on the Southern Poverty Law Center list of dangerous people.
However, in Canada, one has to take the racist insults and the police are lenient compared to the USA where a Polish nationalist preaching hate will be investigated because hate speech and inciting violence is not free speech.
This is something new. India-trained doctors getting to do their medical practice in the USA?
The Canadian argument for forcing India-trained doctors to redo Grade 12, and redo medical school is based on the racist assumption that all Indian doctors, even those who worked in the NHS system in UK or America, bought their degrees and they bribed their way to become a doctor. This applies to mostly migrant doctors from all spectrums to be frank, but the stereotype that foreign trained doctors have to redo Grade 12 should be an insult.
From what I’ve read, America has had more persons of colour as CEOs, politicians and influential figures per capita than Canada.
There were Indian-Americans who were or are CEOs of large companies such as Uber, Google, Pepsico among others.
But the majority of Indian-Asian migrants to Canada who applied for professional status landing are struggling in Toronto and cleaning public washrooms or driving taxis for low wages.
Most immigrants in Canada tend to live according to nationality, such as Greektown, Little Italy, Little Portugal, Polish Dundas West, Finnish, Jamaican, Caribbeans, etc, but the most part, cities like Brampton, which have lots of Indian immigrants tend to assimilate. Same goes for the Caribbeans and African communities.
However, the racist garbage that comes from Europe ends up in the European enclaves and some people are not welcome in certain parts of Toronto because they are of a different race. Sometimes one hears people speaking their native tongue and then acting racist towards those who were born and raised in Canada.
Canada doesn’t respect the talents of educated and business-minded Indians.
The best option for an educated Indian is to apply for a job in the USA, even if it’s harder to get a work visa due to Trump.
Toronto is the NYC of Canada, and the low class and backward European nationalists have been harassing brown immigrants and writing hate speech against non-whites, and the police don’t really care.
If you, the educated Indian businessman or businesswoman want to end up in a dead end, clean toilets at the TTC and pack boxes in factories while paying 80% of your wages for rent, then be my guest.
The final straw that would deter Indians from investing in Canada is that no matter how much money you make, or what skills you have, the backwards Polish and Greek nationalists would view every Indian as an Arabian terrorist who is like Omar Khadr, a child soldier.
It does not matter if you’re a Hindu woman wearing a sari; the Polish white nationalist would attack you for being “Islamic”. Yes! This is happening in Toronto, not some backwards small town.
The irony is that Poland has benefited tremendously from joining the European Union, yet wants to hate on non-white immigrants. And most of the Polish nationalists come to Toronto and spread hate.
My fellow educated Indian; think wisely before coming to Canada. Trump knows that you’re not a Muslim, but the backwards Polish nationalist views you as a Muslim.
When I hear some language here, I realize that Indians are not much different than Polish people either. Why are you saying Europeans consider you like Muslims? Would it be OK if only Muslims are targetted? Some of the language written here suggests so even though this may not be what you meant. Racism of any kind is wrong regardless of what your ethnicity or religion is. If you take time to separate people as Polish or Greek then that is wrong as well. Canada is a bad country that way. People are constantly judging you, estimating you, adjusting their behavior based on perceptions of your likes and dislikes. Diversity of that kind is a problem. Integration in a society of that kind is also a problem. However, I think most of the world is a mess and life, in general, is never easy. Just imagine what Canadians who have been living for several generations in Canada think? They have to adjust to this new reality of bigotry as well.
India has a Hindu nationalist problem and I was just stating that the racist people don’t know the difference between a Muslim and a Hindu.
Lots of Hindus in Toronto think that anti-Islamic sentiment and racism in general doesn’t affect them (due to hearing fake stores and half-truths from relatives abroad), but once one is brown, they are lumped together as Muslim refugees in Canada.
i have seen canadians are very jealous of people who make money same like UK,they want to earn minimum wages and be take all socialist freebies from the government and feel contended
Parag, to reply to your comment, so that means that the CEO of Paramount Fine Foods and that Middle Eastern eatery should relocate to the USA?
Those CEOs were harassed by members of the Canadian National Guard and Yellow Vest Movement. Canada also has a European PIGEDA anti-Islamic movement which harasses Hindu and Muslim women on the streets of Toronto and the surrounding areas.
Canada has imported low class and uneducated Eastern Europeans who stick to their own enclaves and they act hostile towards a non-white when they travel into those areas.
The Polish nationalist has also spread hate against all brown people that the hate is directed at educated Indian businessmen, their Canadian-born children, and even babies are spat on by the Polish nationalist in Toronto.
The flaw with multi-culturalism in Canada is that the Polish white nationalist contends that non-white immigrants do not assimilate to Canadian society, yet the Polish nationalist is bringing his hate and uneducated remarks against immigrants from Europe.
If those business can survive competitive environment of the USA then yes they are always welcome. Keep in mind that Canada restricts competition to encourage Canadian businesses. Even search engines in Canada will not show US businesses offering competitive products. You also have customs that discourage Canadians from buying too many things from USA. Additionally, Canadian media requires at minimum 30% of media content shown in Canada coming from Canadian media. So Paramount Fine Foods may be benefiting from Canadian protectionism. If it moves to the USA, it may not even survive due to heave competition in the USA.
I don’t have enough info to believe that Paramount Fine Foods benefits from the Canadian monopoly system because the protectionist system benefits companies like Tim Hortons, Bell Canada, Rogers and lots of Canadian brands more than “foreign” brands. Toronto has a high Arabic population, and he was lucky to capitalize on that.
But, a day might come if the owner decides that the Polish and Canadian nationalists are a detriment to his life and his family and he might consider moving to the States, if possible.
The “nationalists” and Polish nationalist have defamed the man and have threatened his family’s lives. The Polish nationalist is on YouTube threatening violence against Muslim business owners because Dr. Fakih won a lawsuit against a white supremacist for defamation.
The hate against immigrant-owned businesses in Canada is troubling. I know that in the USA, immigrants who create successful businesses are respected, but in Toronto I honestly don’t know why the Canadian nationalist groups and the Polish/Greek/Eastern European skinheads are harassing the man and his family.
I have discussed this issue with my friends in India who are considering moving to Canada to start businesses, and even that incident (Dr. Fakih and Syrian food shop death threats) are scaring investors.
Don’t blame Polish nationalism to immigration. It is the Russian KGB that is using Western freedoms to divide countries and sow hatred and discontent. Most countries are helpless against such hatred. Brexit is a direct outcome of this. If you remember Virginia nationalist gathering where one person was killed? There are some incidents that happen in mosques and other places in the USA. The US government has a cyber command that monitors such activities. From time to time Facebook and Google testify on such issues. The FBI has percolated such hate groups and indicts people from time to time on domestic terrorism-related issues. There are automated bots that spread these messages on a mass scale. Even governments cannot block people entirely as there are VPN software that allow you to browse the internet by hiding your location. This way you get access to any content located anywhere.
Did you read the story of a Canadian international student who was murdered in Poland, and the authorities dragged their feet at the story?
Poland is currently a racist country—They’ve elected a nationalist party, and they dislike non-white immigrants. It’s ironic given that Germany under Hitler wanted to exterminate Poles, but Poland is embracing neo-Nazism.
Those countries are always like that. What keeps them from fighting is the USA’s superpower status. If America retreats then Europe and the middle east start fighting again. The history of European and Middle Eastern nations is built on bullying and extortion. They justify their evil ways based on religious and racial superiority. This is the core aspect of why people hate the USA. They think the USA restricts their bullying and call the USA a bully.
Parag your writing style and thoughts are that of an assimilated American, but if you were to visit Poland or Hungary; or think of opening a billion-dollar business, the racist governments there would allow Polish and Hungarian nationalists to vandalize, threaten and do harm to your business and family. This was why I was concerned that Canadian white nationalists were trying to shut down Dr. Fakih’s restaurant while posting calls for violence on Youtube with the Polish nationalist.
I use the terms “Polish nationalist”, “Canadian white nationalist”, because I don’t want their names showing up on this website’s search engines, nor would I want them to harass the owners of this blog.
Educated and entrepreneurial immigrants to Canada are being harassed and victimized by those nationalist scumbags and the Canadian government only waits until they do something violent to do anything.
Parag, would America accept the CEO of Paramount Fine Foods, a Lebanese named Dr. Mohammad Fakih, and his friend, a Syrian refugee who started a growing franchise?
Those men are being harassed and threatened with death by the Canadian and Polish nationalist, despite those men contributing to the Canadian economy.
Absolutely. I think Uber CEO is of similar background. Everyone is welcome to America. Why would anyone hate a CEO regardless of who he is? He is creating jobs and growing economy. The company pays taxes so US government is more than happy. We need people hungry for success who strike rich. If those racist Polish try to stop such people in America then they go to jail or get killed if they use violent means. Do not make a mistake. Immigrants are not some poor people in America. We are multi-millionaires and we will come after you from position of strength and clean America of bigotry. These racists are not really rich people and they will get hit by a freight train of rich immigrants in the USA. We are ready to fight foreign influence right from the founding of America.
I also believe that the (late) founder of Apple, Steve Jobs, was a Syrian.
The harassment campaign that the European nationalists did to Dr. Fakih and his business associate friend would have led to criminal charges if an Indian man did this to a white person.
But the main issue is that why would educated and business-minded Indians move to Canada to end up sweeping floors and cleaning TTC toilets, while being at a high risk of being harassed and assaulted by Polish nationalists who have immigrated to Canada?
There are Polish, Greek, Golden Dawn, Norway and even Swedish white supremacists who have set roots in Toronto of all places. Toronto is the NYC of Canada.
I can’t imagine a skin head from Greece or the Polish nationalist doing this in NYC without being beaten up by the local African-Americans and Puerto Ricans.
i would say americans are more business minded and they dont care about the race/religion when doing their businesses.Thats why we have so many IITians and doctors, from Top medical colleges in india making their professional niche in USA.
It is not only that but also Capitalism. No township wants to lose taxes where racist shoo away rich people because when rich people move away township taxes shrink. If I live in a township, I also pay local taxes. If I move to another township then my old township loses taxes because I moved. When enough people move away, property values and property taxes also fall. Township that attract people will also see increase in property values and taxes. So racism does not really work in the USA. It only works on the Internet.
Canada is not like that. I think Alberta shares its oil profits with other states. This means racists can harass people and when people move, local communities do not lose taxes.
Money doesn’t have race/religion/nationality, but the bigots who live in small town Canada, or the racists who emigrated from Poland, EE, etc are uneducated and hateful of other cultures.
The Polish nationalist even contends that the Polish people are not to be blamed for their racist attitudes and anti-Jewish hatred because they were under Soviet rule.
But the Polish people have emigrated in non-white lands for decades and brought their racism there too.
Let those guys try it where I live. The whole community including law enforcement will turn against them. No one wants taxpayers out of their community. The cops’ salaries are paid by local taxes and property values will take a hit if its reputation suffers. Besides these guys will never get a green card if they have a police record. You bet that I have the resources to hire the best lawyers to sue them at the least harassment. The pursuit of happiness is also a right in America. These guys will have to pay if they harass me. Any threat of violence will be handled with lethal force. I will carry a gun if I feel threatened. My first option will be civil litigation. Additionally, they will be arrested, thrown in jail and deported. Even people with criminal records or child molesters have a problem finding a community to live in as these guys get thrown out all the time. America puts limits on immigration. No country can get over 7% of green cards per year. It takes anywhere between 3 to 30 years to get a green card so you have to put on your good behavior for a long time before you get your green card. After that you need to stay clear of a police record for an additional 5 years before you get your citizenship. As I said before, America does not consider cultural defense. These guys can say any damn thing they want (like they were under Russia etc.), they will be thrown out. America does not want scum from the world.
hello mr parag are you gujarati descent indian origin?dont mind just asking because of curiosity…..
No, Marathi who never lived in Maharastra.
Canada seems to be regressing if educated Indians and educated immigrants as a whole are viewed as refugees, while America lets those same educated immigrants move to America once they secure a job, which seems to be far easier, even with Trump in power.
In Toronto, doctors and Phd professors are cleaning hospital floors for minimum wage. I don’t see how this is a life to live in Canada, especially how the growing ‘populist’ Polish nationalist hatred that is growing into anti-Indian and anti-Islamic sentiments.
Hindus are lumped together with Arabians. And the European immigrants who refuse to assimilate yet claim that Hindus are Muslims are pushing this anti-Indian narrative in Canada.
What should amaze you is that a millionaire, Mohammad Fakih, a Lebanese, being lumped together with Islamic extremists by the bigots and Polish nationalist. I don’t see that happening in America, ever. America respects talent like that.
Canada is regressing.
Ashu, it doesn’t matter if you’re Indian; Indians are viewed in the same hostility as Arabs and African refugees.
Canadians who are bigoted would view an Indian IT worker as a refugee from Syria, and probably a religious extremist to boot.
The European white nationalism is being imported into Canada, while in the USA, the Polish nationalist who hates non-whites would get beaten up if he promoted hate in NYC due to the high African-American and Puerto Rican population.
Canada lets European nationalists do what they want while in the USA, one has to become “American”. Huge difference.
The Polish nationalist would even view the most educated Indian as a terrorist while gunning down non-whites in an African church or mosque. The hate against immigrants in Canada is becoming severe than in the USA.
Indians in the USA are not viewed as terrorists in NYC these days, but in Toronto, the European immigrants bring nasty racism to Canada which would put America to shame!
Common america has its hand dirty through lot of clandestine activities like drug wars, including the contra band in latin america,iraq war for oil supremacy and double agents like barry seal who helped US to earn in millions through illicit drug trade.But i agree that america has always been the hotbed of innovators and scientists,from wright brothers to henry ford to howard aiken ,all of them have proved the technical prowess of USA again and again,yes USA produces world class weapons through intensive research and development.USA cannot be compared to canada because the problem with canada is that vast majority of canada is a frozen waste land unsuitable for industrial growth and human habitation.just look at kashmir,everyone calls kashmir a paradise still thousands of kashmiris are flocking to other states for jobs and professional development, just because the extreme temperature of kashmir is unfit for economic development.secondly USA accepts foreign talent without any IFs and BUTs ,while canada puts hundreds of barriers in front of foreign talented skill worker which is quite demoralizing for any immigrant.Greenland has maximum no of suicides it has a same weather like of canada,isnt a coincidence that canada also have huge numbers of homeless people dying on its impersonal streets.UK aka great britain once ruled the world now whats its worth today?its crumbling maybe because of monarchy or the egoistic attitude of queen.USA will survive much more before collapsing i doubt it will collapse because of its ingrained capitalism and ruthless foreign policy which puts americans interest before anything……Canada cant become USA even in coming 100 years..
Actually, in the USA, we want immigrants coming and starting at the top. The vast majority of European countries and Canada cannot handle the fact that immigrants make a lot of money. These countries want immigrants to start right a the bottom. America does not want any immigrants starting at the bottom because then they compete with the poor in America and they will not pay any taxes. So when I see immigration to Europe or Canada, I see racism. These guys cannot handle the fact that someone from another country can be better than them or can do financially better. As a result, only poor immigrants will find those places attractive. These countries then spread false platitudes like we are generous with our immigration and accept refugees. Even immigrants, who do not want to acknowledge institutional racism and trying to fit in, start saying life is good here and I would not live anywhere else, etc.
I have visited Canada for over 20 years. I know the hatred of Americans. I also know that if a Canadian gets a chance to leave Canada for the USA, he would take that opportunity 9 times out of 10. Canadian women are always looking at ways to come to America. People really are living in a pressure cooker in Canada. The only way to live happily in Canada is to have enough money to buy a condo in either Florida, Las Vegas or Hawaii. You can then spend 6 months in your condo location and the remaining 6 summer months in Canada. Living such a lifestyle needs a lot of money and all Canadians want that lifestyle.
Parag that is a great point—How Canadians view educated immigrants as uneducated and uncivilized while Americans expect educated immigrants to become a taxpayer American.
Lots of Caribbean migrants end up as millionaire doctors and CEOs in the USA, but in Canada, they end up mopping floors at the TTC or packing boxes in factories and they die earlier.
Immigrants never realize that in the name of CANADIAN EXPERIENCE they are facing systemic discrimination.Many immigrants justify the humilation faced from their white canadian counterparts by reminding themselves of caste based discrimination and other prejudices back home in india. yes there is discrimination in india but only for lower class or strate of people,while in canada even a high class immigrant will have to do menial jobs or start from scratch.I Have seen IIT graduates working in call centers and warehouses burning their hands while doing packaging jobs.UK and USA have fair proportion of indian doctors,but how many indian or brown doctors does canada have in its system?
Canadian universities are all money minting institutes.They treat international students as cash cow,why would any international student pay 60k dollars just to do some minimum wage jobs after graduation?with the influx of many IT professionals from all over the world just because trump uncle is putting lot of hurdles for H1B aspirants toronto and vancouver are facing stiff competition for house rents and IT jobs.I dont think canada has a bright future…sadly.
In America, as long as one is “American”, immigrants easily assimilate into society.
But what I’ve observed with Canada is that immigrants who are not white end up facing barriers in the job market, even if they study higher Canadian education and get advanced degrees and MBAs.
Furthermore, the white nationalist movement from Poland, Hungary and Russia have spread like cancer into Canada that hate crimes are surging in Toronto, a so-called ‘multi-cultural’ city.
In other words, European immigration has imported Polish white nationalism which views brown immigrants as scum.
In the USA, the Polish immigrant who hates Black and brown people would not be supported if he does that in NYC because of a strong African-American population. However, in Toronto, it seems that European white nationalism is becoming problematic and the Quebec Mosque shooting is a root of the growing racism that immigrants face in Canada, which promotes itself as a tolerant country.
How can Canada be tolerant if it imports European white nationalists who refuse to assimilate and become Canadian?
In the USA, a polish immigrant will not enter without a job. America will only let people immigrate when it benefits America. Otherwise, they are kept out. So, if you want to come to America then better get a high paying job. No American experience required just talent that fetches you a high paying job.
Good!
You should read how Indians are lumped together with Muslims on the Poland forums, both for locals and for Polish expats.
So America is they welcome your talents, and in Canada is that they bring everyone in, including the unemployed Polish nationalist who refuses to integrate and bring their racist garbage, or the ‘refugee’ with the criminal record?
Educated Indians are lumped together with those illegal refugees in Canada. Does this happen in the USA?
First of all Indians never come to USA and live here looking for jobs. You come to USA on a visa (student or work visa). Once your degree is done, you either get a job or you go home. When you get a job, you have to compete for the job with locals and your job visa is only granted when you get competitive salary. No one can live in America if their visa status is over. They cannot afford healthcare. No one can qualify for any benefits unless they have a green card or citizen. The benefits are way lower than Canadian benefits. America is pure capitalist country. Anyone from Europe or Canada (an average person) cannot survive in America. There are absolutely no benefits available for them so they will literally starve to death. America is not for an average person. You either come here and make a lot of money or you don’t. Most cannot make it in America so they sit in Canada and hate America.
To answer your question if Indians are lumped together with others. Well, that lumping never makes sense in the USA. Why would anyone care about who you are when immigrants do not drain public benefits or get free health care or even compete at the lower end jobs (unless they are illegals who get deported all the time). If you survive in the USA then you are paying for your livelihood. No one cares about you. Everyone in the USA is busy with their life. Besides, more immigrants mean better demand so why would anyone hate immigrants. Trump tried to instill hatred based on religion and Muslim culture, but that is a stupid idea because everyone under 18 in America today is a minority. In one decade everyone under 28 in America will be a non-white minority. Hate has no future in America. Besides, law enforcement is strong and FBI monitors hate groups in America as well. When people with hate act, they usually get killed. Cops in America do not negotiate. They are paid to swiftly solve situations and are allowed to used overwhelming lethal force. If you survive then trial lawyers will stack bills and get judgments against you worth millions of dollars. If you hate in America, you really do not belong here. Sooner or later, you will either get killed, get incarcerated or end up paying legal bills/fines for eternity. From time to time, you have incidents as some people test the limits but they either die or go to jail and ruin their life forever.
I’m actually considering to let my educated friends know that Canada is not the place for them, and that they should try getting a work visa and migrate to the USA cities like NYC or other business hubs, even if it’s harder to obtain.
It’s better for them to remain in their countries of origin than to relocate to Canada and sweep floors for minimum wage while the backwards and racist Polish nationalists harass them and their families after working and studying to become a taxpayer to society.
I’m glad that the Polish nationalist might get sanctioned or beaten up if he preaches hate against non-whites in the USA.
The cops should definitely use lethal force against the European nationalist if they harm non-whites.
Meanwhile, the Canadian media is trying to frame the Quebec mosque shooter as a lonely and bullied child.
You do not have to worry about cops using lethal force. There are states in the USA that have stand your ground meaning that people can carry their own concealed weapons and shoot these racists. Right to life is clear under the US constitution so these morons will get shot before even cops arrive. American constitution does not make any accomodations about culture, etc. The Canadian constitution encourages racism by incorporating vague words such as cultural protection.
Canada is owned by a few families who form monopolies and oligopolies, unlike the USA where there are thousands of billionaires who create jobs, foster innovation and make American life and economy ranked the highest in the world (for now).
In Canada, if you come here with an ‘educated’ attitude, expect to be shamed and put down by the locals (as in white Canadian-borns).
But no one is coming to Canada with a holier-than-thou attitude, but just putting higher education on your resume for an entry level job is considered rude to Canadian employers, because the employers only have Grade 8 or Grade 10 education and this challenges their authority.
Canada is not competitive, and the oil in Alberta requires a ton ( pun intended) of refining.
America has sourced cheaper oil, and oil which requires less refining, elsewhere such as Newfoundland, Africa and in South America, and don’t require Canada’s heavy crude as much. Has nothing to do with Trudeau, because Trudeau went against his liberal ideas to support a pipeline.
The fact is that Canada’s crude is too costly to refine, and America has found cheaper sources of oil elsewhere. Exxon-Mobil has obtained at least 15 billions of light crude in Brazil, and several billion in neighbouring countries.
Canada has to be more competitive if they want to survive in the globalized world.
competition word is not in canada’s dictionary,canada runs on mediocrity, everything is average be it company or their employees.Once you try to act smart you are quickly shown the way out of the door, thats why canada has maximum no of people living on paycheque to paycheque.why can’t canada produce giants like bill gates and steve jobs time to rethink?
You’re right on the money. It’s taught in a course called “Career & Networking” that “meeting prospective employers and NETWORKING (emphasis given) is the key to success in finding a job.
However, who will the employer hire, especially if it’s a typical Canadian male? A foreign student with a thick and heavy accent with a GPA of 4.0, or a blond Canadian white girl with a GPA of 2.0?
canada doesnt produce giants because we dont like the billionaire capitalist mindset. even europe is breaking down. so is US but its just taking longer. its typical to see americans, indians, chinese people think in terms of money. not everyone agrees with this.
canada will not allow billionaires to come in control even though the argument is favor is they run the country and boost the economy. the country and economy can run without these selfish giants. why? Because canada has resources for now just like australia which runs the country.
you cant see all the problems that capitalists bring for everyone?
Salman, do you know that only a few companies own most of the food, telecoms and media? Only a few families in Canada own most of the wealth. While the USA is capitalistic, it isn’t aristocratic like Canada where innovation is frowned upon. Americans are more than happy to have innovators and risk-takers, while Canada only wants Yes men and conformists.
There is no world peace without Capitalism. For the first 2000 years of modern civilization, population growth was slow because wealth was highly dependent on resources that Earth could provide. The only way to support population growth is through innovations in technology. Farm productivity, medical advances, oil recovery from shale is all possible due to advances in technology and that made the USA rich. Advances in military technology allow few people in the USA to keep peace around the world. These technology advances do not come cheap either. You need heavy capital investments in advance manufacturing. These investments can only be made by Capitalistic countries. America by default is the leader of the world because of Capitalism.
I can see why Canadians want the US to be a socialist country. They want the US to be a socialist country so that they can come and spend 6 months in the USA. US Capitalism makes it harder for Canadians to retire in the USA. News flash guys, we will keep you out unless you are rich to afford US healthcare. America is for the rich.
Parag,
Canadians are envious of America. They want to see America collapse, but fail to realize that 85% of Canadian exports go to the USA and are traded with the USA.
Canada is a country for the mediocre who is content living on welfare or working a dead-end job for their entire lives because their home country is a crappy place or they are considered dalits.
America rewards innovation and this is evident that most of the famous entertainers and investors from Canada are successful by living in the USA.
Just like brexit there is going demand of wexit ,alberta and quebec are demanding separation from rest of canada maybe they are fed up of trudeau economic policy which laid off 100000 albertans from job
Parag, the problem is that foreigners from India and Asia are told a lie by immigration lawyers from Canada to come here for their Canadian dream, only to discover that foreign credentials are not recognized in the Canadian job market.
Also having a foreign sounding name other than Jane Smith is a huge indirect barrier in hiring due to the close-mindedness of Canadian employers.
Hundreds of thousands of immigrants are fleeced of their life savings, and this will continue for thousands of years because India has over 1 billion suckers to fool into coming to Canada.
ok so keeping it simple canada is not so great for highly skilled professionals there are IT jobs in vancouver and toronto but market is becoming saturated nowadays.houses are damn expensive almost one million dollar so i dont think majority of immigrants can afford housing keeping in mind their salary.Free healthcare is good to some extent but again you cant get the specialist appointment instantly.education is free till school but college education is expensive and many canadians with university degrees are working as a cashier or doing odd jobs.So is it worth to invest so much in education when you are not sure of getting good jobs?as a family you need 100k salary after tax to live an above middle class life which is again very difficult to earn.Life quality is better than india or other third world nations but only if you earn well otherwise no point in living hand to mouth.
If you get a job of over 50k feel yourself a lucky guy but again you will be living without nil savings,the problem is that india as a whole country is deteriorating be it on infrastructure,pollution and on environmental level,hence many indians wish to escape to western countries believing everything there is of utopian level.Well immigration to canada always will be a hard boiling topic until immigrants really share their true experience till then everything seems dark and suspicious.
Immigrants will always want more money because they do not have a family to fall back on when hard times come. If you do not make a lot of money in Canada then it is not worth coming here. The only immigrants that will find Canada acceptable are the ones who face certain death in their home countries. These guys have no choice and coming to Canada is a matter of survival.
Maybe but there are several factors which influence someone to immigrate to canada like less chaos,clean air and water, organised and efficient system,all these things are mostly neglected in third world countries.
The Native Indians don’t have clean air or water. There was a scandal where the elite companies were dumping toxic chemicals into the water supply of a contested Native area in Ontario.
Is it true that many old age canadians and immigrants die from heart attack due to shovelling in winters?canada has also maximum number of patients on wheelchair due to risky and hard stance menial jobs done by workers above 40 years of age.why is canada hiding all these facts which are a threat to migration?doing labour and menial jobs in canadian weather is extremely risk and hazardous
Yes you might have to work in a factory or shovel snow despite having a Phd in Asia or Europe.
UK is definitely a better place for immigrants be it weather or job opportunities and UK never advertises itself a great immigration destination,inspite of all this it gives almost 30000 tier 2 visa to indians.UK has also many flaws a nation but still people dont die in streets like canada.
UK is not better for immigrants. it is a country of rat race. some people dont want to see other people around to make population like asian countries. if i wanted people, i would go back to asia. i dont want that many people in the country. the life quality is high in canada without any hard work. that is what i like. i love canada, australia (the great outdoors) and the beautiful beaches of NZ, prestine and no people around.
the meaning of life is v different to many people. at some point, these views never reconcile. most second or third generation in the west care more about going to restaurants, surfing, chilling out in life, not being the head of microsoft, amazon, or nasa.
what life in canada?first clear your facts,you will spend half if your time in doing menial/partime jobs and travelling to your workplace.For enjoying all these luxuries in western countries you need high end salary which is difficult to earn atleast in canada.There are immigrants who do jobs in weekends just to meet their ends.Canada is good for druggies,perverts and free loaders i suspect you are amongst the one.
Many immigrants fail to realize that predators end up teaching their children and molest them, and those immigrant parents are either ignorant or afraid to complain.
In India I hear that pervert teachers get a good beating and shamed from the villege. In Canada it’s illegal to even criticize convicted child rapists and child killers such as Paul Bernardo or his wife accomplice Karla Homolka.
*shamed from the village.
On the one hand, you call Canada racist and, on the other, you want Canadian child molesters to face vigilante justice. Your recommendations are inconsistent. Vigilante justice is disrespecting law and order just like racism. Immigrants need to leave their culture back home and realize that Canada is a developed country. Many things that are done back home are not necessarily the correct way of doing things.
Parag,
Canada’s laws protect child molesters, especially if they work in government or well-connected jobs like teachers, daycare workers or even police officers.
Meanwhile, the Canadian government monitors these websites to send police for dissenting views. I’m certain that this website was contacted by the Canadian government at one time.
But Canada protects the pedophile to rape children inside the class room, church or daycare centre!
Canada is basically Vancouver, Alberta, Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal. The rest of Canada are xenophobic small towns which have racist hate crimes skyrocket.
If a successful immigrant like Mohamed Fakih, a man who owns one of the largest restaurant chains in Canada, is a target of anti-immigrant hatred and anti-Muslim hate crimes, what makes the average immigrant believe that they will be welcomed in Canada for their skills?
In Toronto of all places Mohamed Fakih is constantly being targeted, and recently a Syrian restaurant was forced to close its doors because of anti-immigrant death threats. The racists justify this because of an incident involving a Canadian woman attending a pro-hate rally which seeks to reduce immigration and support hate crimes in Canada.
If this was in NYC, the anti-immigrant hate would not have happened on business owners, neo-Nazi trolls harassing businesspeople.
Imagine being an entrepreneur, and the racist Canadians contend that you are a refugee and a terrorist, despite creating millions of dollars and creating thousands of jobs for the economy?
And the racists are doubling down on their hate even when the courts have ordered several racists to pay $2.5 million to Fakih for defamation. How are those racists able to survive, while if a non-white is accused of a crime, his or her life changes for the worse, and they end up on the streets?
there is only 1 problem. govt and local canadians are at odds. the people cant really be sued as a whole. the govt must be sued for bringing immigrants on a hypothetical criteria when the locals are not interested.
entreprenuers or business owners. this all comes later in life. first is fun in the great outdoors of canada, not the business success in times square
That is where you contradict. You cannot have a great life without hard-working people. Canadians cannot have free health care AND a great life. Someone needs to pay taxes and make a lot of money to support lazy people. Canada needs immigrants because they bring money and many return home after exhausting their finances. Canada is really not that much different from Europe. It is not that less populated either. In theory, it is a big country, but Canada’s habitable places are crammed with a lot of population. The very first thing you notice when entering Canada from the USA (via an airplane) is how many homes are located just next to each other. It is too densely packed country. I guess the government saves money on infrastructure by densely packing people together.
Most of the places are covered with snow its habitable for polar bears not for humans,and government wants immigrants to settle down in rural areas like nunavut which is a horrible place covered by snow everytime.All the big cities are saturated with housing and residents,they cant support more of the population
UK is any time better than canada,yes but canada is much like other socialist countries like germany norway and other scandanavian countries where you nver become rich
The Polish and Hungarian inspired nationalist masquerading as a Canadianer assumes that complaining about Canadian immigration is “Islam”.
You know what?
It’s good that the populations of racist European countries like Poland, Hungary and Russia are declining. Those people are racist and they treat non-whites worse than dogs.
America should BAN racist Poles, Hungarians and Russians. Canada imports these racists and they harass Indian immigrants by conflating them with Arabians.
Many Indian immigrants assimilate into America and become doctors, lawyers and CEOs of Google. But the racist Polish and Hungarian nationalist are harassing and attacking Indian immigrants to Canada.
Money is everything in Canada.
Tell the landlord that you are enjoying the great outdoors of Canada while he jacks up your rent.
what is the job market in smaller cities like halifax saskatchwen and nunavut?i dont think anything productive would come out in these places as these places are frozen like tundra.
Only Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa and Vancouver have the jobs.
Alberta used to have jobs but the oil industry is collapsing.
Ashu, many of the South Asian and Arabian males who migrate here come from middle class families. They made a mistake assuming that the white female is open to them when she walks nude in public or entertains elementary-age boys by her lack of clothes.
Canadian women, as in white females, are given rights to flaunt and display their bodies, but as you mentioned, it’s illegal to make her feel uncomfortable through ‘leering’ and making her feel like an ‘object’.
Canada has worst fertility rate which is the reason of its very low population growth,its extreme weather conditions are never conducive to human mating and reproduction,Still we see lakhs of indian and middle eastern immigrants ganging up to migrate to canada every year
why is there so much talk of women problem? it shows over and over you prove my point. only complains.
so lets start.
First, divorce has nothing to do with canada. it has to do with the person. the laws should allow for it to happen as much as the person wants. in our countries, the laws are inadequate.
second, terrorism is never the answer. have you not heard this slogan that india portrays so proudly but seems like doesnt want to follow? if the van driver is frustrated, he can go kill himself in peace in the ocean. useless loser. no once cares about such losers.
Third, so many feminist problem. how come i dont hear this complain from anyone but a bunch of indians here? feminism is what indian women want even in india. the laws will change to accomodate them. never mistake it. the govt lost to LGBT. serves the govt right. no one stands in the ways of freedom and modernization and capitalism.
Forth, it is the expectations of indians especially that life is logic. it is not. this is why indians may be good in some areas but not others. whining and complaining will only demean the respect. no wonder even indians who are here specially second generation dont even want to mix with other indians who are immigrants. change personality and attitude.
Fifth, lowest fertility is not a problem. its your opinion. i can say india’s highest fertility is the worst and the extreme heat. its all perception.
lastly, yes many people immigrate here and will forever. i would pick canada over india, dubai, malaysia, hong kong, south africa, anytime anyday even if i have to work as a cleaner here. this is to do the freedom choice and not the rat race people in our country are involved in.
Ashu, they were told a lie.
Salman, I hope that you aren’t a victim of the hate crimes in Canada. Young men of Indian, Muslim and Arab origins are more likely to be viewed as a rapist and criminal because of the conservative propaganda. Even Hare Krishna men dressed in the saffron robe are viewed in the same hostility as an Arab refugee.
yes and so? just live with it or try to change it in the open. the defination of multi culturism is not everyone’s culture. it is melt into the existing culture as an immigrant. this is the other side of the coin. you can never prove it right and the other wrong. Hare krishna, arabs, phillippines, dubai or france doesnt matter in canada. what matters is you adjust your life and religion,personality, and sexual identity to match the workings of the best place on earth. love this country for what it is not what you want it to be
I dare you to make a comment on a white female co-worker on how she dresses, and see how quick you will lose your job.
But the white mass shooters who are shooting up mosques, African Churches and Jewish synagogues live a far better life in a secure prison, with meals and even a university education funded by the taxpayer, while the law-abiding non-whites have to toil and struggle in this frozen land.
Did you know what the New Zealand mass shooter did in court? He openly mocked the families of the victims from his cell, and he is getting a graduate education funded just like the Norway mass shooter.
I will also blame the indian and south asian culture of taking it easy and finding shortcuts in western nations for petty gains.Indian youths and males generally have very lusty and treachrous attitude towards white women.They think that many of the western women are easy to get and are maid to be laid.This is not true and more and more rejection from female would make them more frustated and hence they go to other extreme measures like stalking which creates a rift and bad impression among western women regarding south asian males(indian and pakistan).I would say feminism is two edged sword which has to be used judiciously while in canada it is used in the other way around
why is there 80 percent divorce rate in canada?any reasons
what does that have to do with canada? there are divorce rates everywhere. you cant tie this to lifestyle. it has to do with the people style. also where did you get this value from? next time give reference. these are things people learn in school to make their life better but clearly some people dont know so maybe thats why life is so bad for some people in canada.
Canada is considered the worst country for divorces. There are hundreds of blogs which complain specifically of Toronto.
Recently, that guy who drove that van on pedestrians confessed that it was his lack of dating success and frustrations with women which motivated him to commit the crime.
Canada overall is a bad place for a man.
As parag said now bloggers on youtube have started videos showing the fancy sides of migrating to canada,but they never show how tough is to find white collar job for fresh off the boat immigrants.Canada was a good country 10 years back to immigrate now its getting more clumsy and an unhappy place for new immigrants
Ashu, how will the YouTube bloggers get their bread-and-butter from the Canadian government if they criticize immigration and racism in Canada?
Back in the early 2000s, an Asian couple from the UK, Prem and Mala, openly wrote a website NotCanada and the government censored the website after a crooked court ruling.
Life is difficult in Toronto because rents are outpacing incomes, and the gap between the rich and poor are widening.
Apartments are hard to rent because of discrimination and greedy landlords who would rather rent to a middle class white couple than to a non-white.
And Salman tells us to respect Canada…Tell that to the Aboriginals who were robbed of their lands!
women in canada are like feminazis they can put any man in jail just because of false accusation.Many immigrants in corporate setups are fired as they were accused of leering and staring oddly at canadian women workers,god knows how truthful it is.In canadian office culture it is believed that woman colleague can pat on mans butt while Dare any man do the same to his female colleague,he will be doomed for life by the cops and social justice tribunal.Feminism is like cancer,many men are suffering slowly and are becoming more and more paralyzed in western nations specially canada.A false divorce case from any woman in canada would lead to confiscation of entire property of her husband.Thats why dating scene is very poor in canada,girls/women in canada when approached by random male would categorize that individual as a stalker or molester without knowing the motivation of that random person.
Male immigrants learn it the hard way when they lose their jobs because they assume that a local Canadian co-worker dressing in a short skirt and showing more cleavage than Playboy Magazine would let them, people from poor third world countries, even LOOK at her body, when she has hundreds of Bay St. millionaires on her Ashley Madison app.
White Canadian females in Toronto have the power to maliciously accuse the lower 99 percentile of males of harassment, while they dress like that only for the top one percentile.
Male immigrants should understand that the sexuality of the White woman is that of the nobility of Europe. The local Canadian women are free to walk naked in public, but she also has the power to put men considered undesirables in jail over accusations of harassment.
Feminist culture and alienated men who are pushed around by feminist bosses.
There is no respect for men and the local Canadian women think it’s okay to disrespect immigrants and men.
If any women dials 911 in toronto or vancouver and complains against any random man who may be located 1000 miles away from these two cities,still he would be caught by the law enforcement agencies and the whereabouts of the men wouldn’t be known to anyone except on the day he is produced in the local court.Such is the power of radical feminists in canada! Law can be tilted against any respectable male and only one allegation will be enough to ruin his entire career and life,as his database is recorded on the computer for ever by the law agencies.
But thousands of Indigenous (Aboriginal) women are murdered and buried in shallow graves, yet the national police (RCMP) is unable to prosecute those who committed such heinous crimes…Why? Because the murdered Aboriginal women are not Caucasian and middle class women.
Lots of brown and Black men living in Canada know the autocratic nature of the Canadian white woman. The White woman has so much power at her disposal, yet flies business class with her $2,500 handbag to third world countries to dictate that those countries should implement the White power laws.
It’s legal for a Canadian woman to walk nude in public, but she can call the cops if any male makes her feel objectified. I’m not joking!
Nudity is legal for certain social groups and genders in Canada. Imagine walking to work and then some random naked Canadian woman accuses you of harassing or objectifying her! Canada is that loony, and the USA might enact such laws due to social interest groups like NOW and NAMBLA.
That is a problem of Indian culture and not that of Canada. You guys are assuming that feminism is bad. Well, so is patriarchy. I consider this as a cultural adjustment problem, which is not a significant problem for me. You do not go to another country to “teach” them your culture.
toxic feminism is always bad as the immigrants are never used to be hated in there native country just because they are male,canadian media and school constantly feeds anti male garbage to young children
White Canadian women are in India changing their culture and laws….How is that fair?
British tried to change Indian culture for over a century and Indians gave them a middle finger. That is what I would do with Indian culture if I were a Canadian.
i dont why immigrants who are delusioned with the worsening conditions in there home countries(air pollution adulteration of food items,degradation of natural resources),migrate to canada.Is life in canada so much good that a person who is CEO or half millionare in his country will do survival jobs in canada just for the sake of good future of his kids?Well theres no guarantee that your kid will become a star in this country,hes most likely to become drug dealer or gang member due to peer pressure and degrading moral values of the surrounding culture.Raising kids is a different headache in western world as you cant tame them by physical force or heavy discipline as there are several repercussions including legal action against parents.coming to the other point of pollution yes canada is much cleaner and safe than india or other asian countires but you need fair amount of money to reproduce good living standards,you cant expect to live a healthy lifestyle just by doing menial jobs
I finally know the answer to why everyone is cribbing on this board. Canada is heaven if you are a loser in your home country, but you cannot come to Canada because you do not have the points. The points-based immigration system gives you high points if you have advanced degrees and people think that getting high points means Canada wants such people. That is a mistake. Points qualify you for immigration. Once you immigrate, you begin as a high school graduate in Canada. This is the part people find hard to accept.
The Canadian government used to preach that their skills are needed for a job in Canada.
Gone are those days of quality immigration from india to USA,Indians in the 70s,80s 90s and early 2000 who excelled in engineering and medicine made great strides after migrating to USA.We see all these by hearing NASA AND silicon valley success stories made by indians who entered into these organizations through dint of their hardwork.Engineers from IIT AND NITS and few brilliant doctors from AIIMS ,MAIDS and MANIPAL made big names in USA….nowadays we see any tom dick and harry prepares for GRE,TOEFL AND IELTS and makes plan to move to USA and canada,while most of them have bought there degrees through cash or backdoor entries they start to squeeze and twist the system while studying or doing job in abroad countries as MR PARAG correctly noted.Here all the problem starts they lure other immigrants and there same community members in their home countries to do menial jobs inCANADA and USA.just see the number of H1B visa frauds in usa mostly done by telugus as they are very much clannish as community.
A lot of unemployed people in Canada have found a new way to make money where they make Youtube videos and sell Canadian dream. If you go to Youtube then you will find many videos that say come to Canada it is a beautiful country. These videos will say that you will begin with “survival jobs” and then you will need to get a “bridging” degree and doors will open for you. These videos will give you stats. where survival jobs start at $14-$16/hour and professional jobs will pay you $60K-$90K. Some videos will also tell you how to apply for unemployment insurance and sit at home for 10 months. Others will tell you that if you have kids, you can get $250 per kid insinuating that if you have a lot of kids then you may not have to work. It is all rosy picture to encourage more views so that the poster earns ad. revenue. The bottom line is that Canadian immigration will only increase and people will land in Canada, spend all their savings and then return back to where they came from. There is too much misery all over the world and people are looking for some hope so they will take whatever chance they could get.
i heard its 500 dollars per kid in montreal
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Canadian government bankrolls some of those snake oil salesmen on YouTube.
College graduates are ending up competing to work for free, and university graduates are doing unpaid internships.
You might as well work in a factory for $14/hr and earn $2,400 full time gross ($2,000 net after taxes and EI rates), but to rent an apartment here in Toronto, it’s at least $1,700 a month, and a TTC metropass is almost $200.
So you’re left with $100 a month for food, but a quick run at Tim Hortons for coffee break is $5-$10.
i heard you need to earn atleast 50k just to survive in toronto,and this amount of salary is not easy to earn for an immigrant
I live in vancouver. toronto is chaotic but thats why i dont like big city. Paris is way more rush. Anyway, you just proved my point. some poeple especially us immigrants cant afford to think in other ways whatever the reason. we feel that if we dont acheive high positions, we are failure in life.
do you remember 3 idiots the movie? what did they show there? its still unthinkable that someone can be just a photographer. so these indian movies are trying to change india’s mindset, not the rest of the world. it is not important to me that we dont have microsoft or beoing division in canada. vancouver is an outdoor state with many beautiful sights and physical activities to enjoy. there is nothing wrong with that.
tell me this…what is the point of all the complaining and when will it stop? The point is canada has to change to your ways and only then will you be happy at the cost of many younger generation’s unhappiness. my sister and dad are very career focuesed but i am not yet i am happy the way i am living doing a small research job with holidays and clean safe enviornment. so does that mean they will impose their way on me? if you like to be IT engineer, find where those jobs are and stay there. if one loves painting, he/she should find where is the best place for that but life will not change for any of us. there are many things i can do such as start international business, help tackle poverty in africa in every way i can but if i dont, or do world class break through research in cancer but what if i dont. At least i am not hindering it.
I agree with Parag on the fact of many indians who come here. They think they are super smart and embodiment of success when they come here. no wonder many of them are hated by people because they have obnoxious attitude.
The only thing i really agree with you is that canadian government is lying to people by saying their degrees will give them job in same field. this is a point on which the govt can be sued. Other than that, nothing is technically wrong.
Salman that is my issue: Educated immigrants being fooled to live in Canada under false pretenses. I could care less if someone with no education or status wants to come here as long as they integrate and don’t act mean to others.
Just by speaking classy and good english indians or other immigrants think they have jobs lined up for them in canada,as they have some sort of superiority complex along them.After coming to canada they realize that western nations have plethora of young graduates who are more intelligent and are more skillful than there same counterparts in third world countries.Just take the example of computer programming and MATLAB, which is taught in the high schools in countires like USA,while indian software engineers cant even think about learning all these coding language till there graduate program.
Ofcourse anybody can make good money in india,the point is that these ambitous doctors and hig end professionals are disenchanted by indias poor quality of life and are looking for self gratification just by migrating to canada.Thats when the snake charmers in the form of canadian immigration agents come to give them false hopes that there credentials will be accepted and they will be very soon allwoed to practice there professions just by giving few exams and spending few thousand dollars.Just add these few thousand dollars to half million immigrants it becomes almost billion!what a nice scam by these 21st century canadian ponzi scheme
I don’t get these upper class Indians who want to live in Canada to live like the untouchable dalits (lower caste) people.
They could always vacation to Europe and live a very luxurious vacation, and still bank it in India fleecing the poorer classes, but no, they get fooled by the immigration consultants to forfeit their upper class standards to live in cockroach basement and end up working in factories or begging for social welfare or even panhandle on the cold and impersonal streets of downtown Toronto.
I’ve read on another blog, that international students are living in cramped conditions, and are dying in house fires as 20-30 students are packed into a bungalow (one story house with basement), and having to pay over $1,000 a month for this “privilege”.
Canada might have a small population of 36 million people, but cities like Toronto are cramped because of lack of housing supply. It isn’t strange to see 5 or 6 families living together inside a rental house. 5 to 6 FAMILIES, not units.
Except IT based jobs there are no good jobs for immigrants in canada,rest of the sector has really crappy job market, hence one can expect to work as menial labourer for years before finding full time job
People who have skills or capital can succeed anywhere in the world, but once they step foot in Toronto, they decline, degrade, become poor and live in suffering.
I’ve read somewhere that a doctor from India wasted over 400,000 dollars Canadian living his first years in Canada, and then returned to Delhi as a penniless man. He eventually got up back on his feet with NOTHING in India, but 400,000 Canadian dollars only made him poorer in Canada.
Despite of the rumours that canada is worst for IMGs why these indian doctor set his foot in toronto/canada?
Who could oppose the multi-million, if not multi-billion dollar PR and marketing agenda of the Canadian government? They spend hundreds of millions on campaigns and over a billion to reinforce the lies to foreign nationals through local and international media. They also monitor blogs and websites which are critical of the immigration scam and they censor and shut it down!
Do you think those in India will listen to a random blogger, or a well-paid millionaire government shill wearing suit and tie and spreading false hopes and lies that Canada is a dream land?
The Canadian government spends a few billion to promote a false image, but in return the country receives BILLIONS and over a few decades TRILLIONS of fleeced monies and assets from gullible immigrants.
Let’s face it, India is hardly a perfect country and Indians are hardly perfect people. Most people from India think they are clever to game the system. I meet such people all the time and they bring chaos to the western world. As soon as they land, they start their clever ways only to find out that western countries (US and Canada) value harmony more than short cuts and cleverness to success. So, no Indian is going to buy that they are not going to be successful. I mean there are these guys who get their medical degree by paying a donation. What kind of jobs do you think they will get in India? They think that they can land in Canada, go through some exams and start minting millions. They do not do any research and when they land here they realize the mountain they have to climb. I think there are a lot of Panjabis in Canada who did not get a lot of education, came into Canada with family-based immigration and drive trucks. I think those people are probably very happy to be in Canada. If a doctor is really successful in India then he will not consider coming to Canada because India pays well for specialists who work in private hospitals.
Parag, most of those con-artists who bought their degrees in India and Pakistan usually end up as real estate agents or scammy immigration consultants anyways. They adapt.
What I have issue with is that these same scammers, in collusion with the Canadian government LIES to immigrants abroad that Canada has jobs waiting for them, and that they should liquidate their assets, bring everything to Canada, and end up spending everything with no chance to return to their homelands.
I’ve met migrants from Egypt, Madagascar, Caribbean, Brazil, and many other countries who regret moving to Canada because they were told a lie.
Canada doesn’t bring in poor immigrants as the local cakers complain when Canada brought a few refugees from Syria, Haiti and failed African dictatorships.
It doesn’t do justice that an educated man and wife from an emerging continent would be fooled to live in Canada and end up on social welfare or working dead end jobs.
Canada has lower fertility rate and hence less population than india.subsequently it has lower gdp than india,still many educated indians are flocking to canada thinking they will create wonders by getting high paying jobs,maybe they are disillusioned with the poverty,chaos and pollution of india and are looking for some really good quality of life and living standards. Maybe canada seems perfect utopia for them but still it has CONS just like any other developed countries
India has a very low GDP per capita, less than 10% of Canada’s.
There are over 300 million Indian citizens who live on less than US$1 a day there.
So what surprises me is that the upper-middle class and upper class of India are flocking to Canada cleaning washrooms, cleaning the TTC subways and serving coffee at Tim Hortons as if they are low wage workers living in the Arab emirates.
I understand if Muslim Indians and Sikhs want to live here, as India is becoming hostile towards those groups, but well-off Indians are coming here to live like second class citizens. That I don’t get.
Hi Shiva. You dont get the last part cause it doesnt exist in your world. every human is different. some people like career satisfaction while others like other things in life. Canada for me is wonderful country with its strongest point being low population and second strongest point being clean enviorment and so on goes the list. some people study philosophy while others go into STEM fields. you cant say one is obsolete.
i just came back from a holiday in paris yesterday. while i loved it, overpopulation and chaos is visible. such things dont exist in canada which is why i like c canada more. paris is 2nd biggest economy in EU but that doesnt impress me. i like a more stable peaceful stressfree life with an average earning. majority of asian countries dont see it like that so they only go for better economy. Likewise, i prefer NZ or australia. sydney is like NYC but NZ cities are amazingly scienic and boost a good quality of life which i will always prefer.
my sis lives in NYC and she keeps telling me to come. i dont want a rush lifestyle. BTW, there are different schools of thought….positivist, interpretism, and others. google them. you and Parag are definately positivist as you see only the hardcore data in one view. thats not how life is…just that it is for you
do you reside in Urban or rural Canada?
Toronto is as crowded just as Paris per capita, because the entire GTA commutes to Toronto for work, increasing the working day population to almost 8 million every day rather than the 2.9 million who are registered by the census.
Do Indians in NYC pay $20,000 a year in tuition, then beg to work for free after graduation like in Toronto?
I once accidentally disbarked at the central station in Toronto at 9 AM. I have never seen a more crowded place in the world. Those lines only move one way and I had to go the other way and it was totally impossible.
Downtown Toronto is where the jobs are at, which means that the entire Ontario region commutes there to work. Union Station might have almost 10 million travellers daily to work, sight-see and travel.
It’s very crowded during rush hour, because the Toronto subway lines were built for a late 1940s population when Canada population was only 10 million, and Toronto with only 500,000 to 900,000 people, and didn’t factor mass immigration planting another 150,000 gullible immigrants to Toronto every year.
They are building a new light rail line along Eglinton, and it will be available by 2021. Traffic is terrible along Eglinton Avenue and it doesn’t help that they are building tall condos to facilitate “global capital” which America would refuse as the money is afoul of the laundering acts.
usa has a separate set of problems rising gun violence,heavy healthcare costs and anti immigration policies plus rise of white nationalism will surely hinder the social harmony in american society.but i still beleive those who migrated to usa in 80s and 90s from india are well off and took the right decision
Comparing America to Canada is comparing apples to oranges. First, 90% of Indians who immigrated to Canada would not even make it to USA. At least Canada allows people to come there. In the USA, an Indian doctor cannot come directly because he will not have a job. Actually, all those Indian doctors complaining in Canada that they have to clean toilets can come to the USA if it were that easy. In fact, many Canadian doctors want to come to the USA for lower taxes and higher wages but they cannot come here.
I live in the USA and I am not worried about white nationalism at all. You would be worried if they had a modicum chance of doing something. The reason there is a white nationalism is that they realize they cannot do a damn thing about diversity. America will be all minority country in less than 25 years. If whites do this white nationalism thing too much then they will end up paying for it within their lifetime. These race wars that whites think will come will never happen because non-whites are least worried about diversity. Every passing second America gets more diverse and money in America is distributed more evenly across races.
yes few of your points seems true like canada is not usa,i feel canada is not even 10 percent of USA.it is blown out of proportions by the canadian media and immigrant consultants,maybe because major canadian cities are within 100 miles of america.Job opportunties,research facilities,market potential all other economic parameters are unfavourable in canada as compared to usa,basically canadian economy is just equal to few combined states of USA.now coming to immigration,immigrants feel that all the hunky dory life is in toronto and vancouver only, not realizing the sheer cost someone has to bear while living in this cities while doing menial jobs.
The Canadian media and the scammers working in the immigration law firms earn their bread and butter by falsely luring foreigners to migrate to Canada when there are no jobs. These law firms aren’t going to Yemen or Somalia looking for refugees; they are looking for wealthy Asian foreigners to spend their money here in Toronto.
canada is a country of debt for every one dollar earned,canadians owe 1.70 dollar which results in poor purchasing power and limits the household to spend more on consumer goods,still Canada comes under developed economy while indian household has much better purchasing power than most of the developed nations,sounds strange to me.
Don’t worry Indian purchasing power will erode soon. These developing countries get a lot of low-interest loans and grants from the World bank. India and China are starting to get cut off from these and soon they will have to be on their own. India is already becoming a high tax society. It will be unlivable country soon. There are many reasons why India is a developing nation. Among those are corruption, poor environmental standards, poor law enforcement, child labor, educational standards (no Indian university in top 200), poor human development index, etc.
Indians who live in the USA seem to do very well compared to Indian migrants living in Canada. I know for a fact that America only hires on TN1 visas before Trump, and there isn’t a rosy picture given to immigrants to live in the USA unless they prove to themselves they want to be American.
Immigration lawyers fly to India and tell young people on campuses that Canada needs everyone, and that Canada allows them to live as Desi Indians, when the reality is vastly different. Canada is fooling people in India to come here and live under an occupied government ruled by Queen Elizabeth. There is no freedom in Canada when it comes to free speech and owning a business.
If you’re a doctor or powerful individual in India, sure you will live like royalty, but coming to Canada when you were a doctor or elite of India and the locals will talk down on you while they force you to clean their toilet bowl without any gloves or breathing masks.
canada doesn’t recognize foreign medical credentials inspite of the fact that there is severe shortage in rural and undeserving areas of canada.this clearly shows the insecurity of canadians towards international medical graduates.
The point is that these public relation liars and lying immigration consultants lie to those living abroad that Canada has jobs in their field.
Lots of doctors from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and China are encouraged to re-do high school Grade 12, study an entirely new field and they still wouldn’t get a job in any case.
Someone told me that a doctor from India went back to do his Grade 12 at an adult school, at age 41, and then he spent another 4 years studying for his college degree, and after he couldn’t even find a job then, he jumped over the Bloor-Danforth viaduct, surprisingly, the school where he did his Grade 12 was not far from there.
Broken dreams and promises for the professional and educated immigrants. It has gotten worse as racist attacks are increasing and Trumpanzees are harassing Indian and Muslim women on how they dress. There was even a middle age Canadian man tearing off the dresses of Muslim women in the Royal York/lower Etobicoke area at a bus stop, while ignoring the local Canadian women who also wore dresses, though much shorter. This would never happen in NYC, as he would have gotten beaten up.
i even heard that most of the female students in toronto are doing prostitution as a side business,since the cost of living and tuition fees is too much,i even heard from reliable sources that they have become sugar babies in large number and they earn even more as compared to white collar jobs in canada.
Those persons doing those types of services will become the future educators, scientists, doctors and leaders of tomorrow! Prostitutes!
Will doug ford do a donald trump after winning election?it seems he will allow all the white supremacist groups to operate freely under the table when he comes to power.
Doug Ford is already a Premier of Ontario, and he’s more fiscally conservative and like to pander to the wealthy regardless of race. He doesn’t preach race-based politics like Trump, but his supporters incorrectly believe that he does.
Doug Ford is more likely to give free government incentives to corporations and the wealthy Canadians than tweet divisive topics. He’s more of a businessman than a politician.
If you’re referring to federal politician Andrew Scheer or Maxime Bernier, then yes, they would start a race war in Canada because they encourage ‘white nationalists’ to exercise their ‘free speech’, which is usually harassing immigrants, posting death threats to immigrant groups and places of worship, and sometimes a mass shooting in mosques, temples or synagogues.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/csis-students-university-campus-1.5226970
Canada is a country where immigrants are spied on, because of unsubstantiated fears of Canadian locals. As if terrorists have the time to join student unions and social justice causes.
It doesn’t matter if you’re a Hindu or Muslim, all brown skin people are considered Muslims, no matter what their faith. Hindu temples were burned down in Peterborough and Windsor, Ontario a few years ago.
Justin Trudeau claims that Canada is accepting of others, but I beg to differ. Spy agencies have no right to spy on students because they are Muslim. They have to obtain reasonable cause that those students are planning a crime. Why did the spy agencies allow white nationalists to harass immigrants.
I met my old dentist friend who finally cleared canadian equivalence exams after 7 years! he spent around 50k dollars to clear this whole mess dont know when he will earn all this invested money.Definitely canada ACCREDTION PROCESS is VERY tough and costly for a foreign trained dentist
I’ve been telling you this all along and you’re not believing me.
I’m not a crab in the bucket type of immigrant. If I see Pakistani, Indian, Asian, African, Caribbean or any other immigrant doctor becoming doctors here within 5 years of moving, rather than driving taxis, serving pizzas, delivering food, cleaning toilets, sweeping floors and other dead-end jobs, I would encourage you to come.
Don’t ever be fooled by Justin Trudeau taking selfies with every identifiable group and smiling. Canada is a paradise for those who are poor and living in countries of extreme poverty, and are able to get government-paid housing and welfare once arriving in Canada.
For an educated doctor or lawyer from India coming here to spend $100,000 within a year settling, and only finding toilet cleaning jobs is a spit in the face.
One of my friend is an IT engineer in london and he is earning 50k pounds per annum,still he pays most of his income in rent and taxes.He lives hand to mouth and sometimes repents why he came to london,when many of his friends are doing great in there home countries and are living in posh villas.I think that the problem is with indians and pakistanis families where going to canada is seen as a social status,rather than an economic or professional advantage.Whether an immigrant drive taxi or work as janitor he always shows off in his native country that he lives a lavish lifestyle there somehow.
Canada a social status by leaving their high caste lifestyles in India to become janitors and taxi drivers?
Are those people stupid or do they worship whites because of the history of India being pillaged by the British? India was used by so many European countries there are several European settlements which exist to this day such as Goa, Ponducherry and other places I can’t recall.
everybody says canadians are friendly,no they are not they are polite to your face but are xenophobic and hate down in your heart since they are jealous of immigrants driving high end cars and living in posh rowhouses
Canadians, even Canadians living in multicultural cities such as Toronto are absorbing hatred for non-whites like a sponge and are far worse and subtle in their racism compared to Americans, who view racists as backwards people.
A newcomer here will NEVER afford to rent a room inside a basement apartment, much less drive a beaten down 1990s model Honda Civic and afford the insurance. Everything is higher in price compared to the USA.
Car insurance is $190-500 a month, but in the USA, this is lower to $25 to $100.
Gas prices are 25% higher in Canada compared to the USA, though Canada boasts of 180 billion barrels of dirty and tarry oil sands which pollute the area.
Canada of today, especially Toronto, is not the same as it was in the 1980s.
There are no longer success stories of migrants from Asia, the Caribbean and Africa coming here in the 1980s, and are retiring with a higher standard of living than they were if they were back home.
You will be condemned to packing boxes and cleaning public toilets until you DIE! You will not be able to afford the food here, much less the rent which dramatically increased by over 500% for the past 10 years. You could get a 3 bedroom apartment for $1,000 back in 2009, but the same apartment now goes for over $2,000 plus you have to pay your own utilities.
The unspoken truth of Canada is that racism is growing and discrimination against non-whites are increasing, albeit subtle and unlike the Trump way of yelling “go back”.
Racial tensions are increasing and the sunny ways government is refusing to acknowledge this. Canada has suffered from several mass shootings by racists. The government hides such stories from immigrants to paint a rosy picture of Canada.
I am now OBSERVING from some known sources that immigrants are been snitched by there white neighbours and that the government is spying on immigrants like tracking things what they post on youtube and other social media.It seems canadians dont like immigrants who earn good money and live a decent life,with time canada will absolutely become police state.
If you’re deemed a Muslim, even if you’re a vegan Hare Krsna devotee, they will harass you and treat you like a Muslim.
There is growing hatred against Muslims and brown people in general, even in “multi-cultural” cities such as Toronto. Racist slurs attributed to Pakistanis are hurled at Tamils, Hare Krsna Indians and even Caribbeans who have Indian and Asian ancestry.
Local pale Canadians are bigoted, and they will harass, spy, falsely report and hurl racist slurs towards brown immigrants because brown people tend to be less violent than other ethnic groups. Local Canadians will never racially harass someone who is Black, because they know once they cause problems with one Black person, the entire “crew” returns and put these bigoted Canadians in their place.
Indian and brown immigrants are very peaceful in Canada, and they are easy targets.
Canadians are adopting the anti-Black racism of the USA and using it against all non-whites in Canada, such as calling police on non-whites for being in “white areas”.
What does that have to do with the prospects of newcomers getting a job in their fields? Crimes like murder happen everywhere, though some crimes would be new to those living middle and upper class lifestyles back home.
They will be living in slums of Toronto and they will face social ills that they have never endured, such as their sons becoming influenced by unsavoury elements or daughters becoming prostitutes for wealthy Bay St. bankers, and there is NOTHING that a parent can do to stop it, or else they get locked up and the daughter or son gets more rights than the parents.
My issue is that well-educated, affluent and established people in their home country are coming to Canada and end up living as second class citizens and cleaning floors and offices while living in slums.
I could care less if someone who is poor and living in mud huts wants to come here for a better life, at least they have food banks here. But for professionals and affluent professionals, why would you come here to live as peasants and suffer?
now gun shooting incident have started in canada,yesterday one australian couple were shot dead on highway near british columbia
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This website is so glitchy with pop-ups, I can’t even right click, and the comments don’t show up after posting, even if under moderation. Is it a bug or is it a way to discourage comments critical of Canada’s false dreams and hopes, I dunno.
whats the scope of foreign trained dentist in canada?
Struggling to find general labour and janitor jobs.
The medical profession is very cliquey, and locals will not allow one to become a doctor unless they retrain for Canadian standards. This is not the NHS of the UK where foreign trained doctors just have to pass a few exams and sessions, and Volia! they become doctors.
Canada doctors and the medical profession are very localized and they don’t accept foreign doctors that easily.
I’m aware of college graduates being offered jobs on the condition that they work for free for “Canadian job experience”. We’re talking of students who spent tens of thousands of their own money, and Canadian employers only want them to work for free pay.
Meanwhile, the boss’s son or daughter will graduate from the top universities in Canada, take a first class flight to a “third world country” and own a business and live like Kings and Queens, but the locals will migrate to Canada and end up living like beggars.
If that isn’t a continuation of colonialism, then what is?
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Trump told a few congresswomen to go back to where they came from, and referred to those countries in the most dissing way.
Trump is stoking the flames of racism, which gets emulated in Canada.
Law-abiding and enterprising immigrants from India will be shocked that they will be hassled on the streets of Toronto and lumped together with Islamic extremists, and told that they are refugees or Trudeau brought them to Canada under a Soros conspiracy to flood Canada with illegals. It’s appalling.
Life in middle east is better for educated and highly skilled professions according to you?
Where did I say that the Middle East is better for skilled professionals?
Why are you adamant on leaving India when you seem to be high caste and upper class in the country? You seem to have disdain for the Middle East, so I’m assuming that you’re not a Muslim (which would explain it as Muslims are facing tensions in India).
Point is, you will face hurdles and obstacles in working as even a dental assistant in Canada. The medical profession is closed-door, and is unionized, which means that those are not part of the club will not become doctors.
I am a dental surgeon from INDIA interested in moving to canada,but somehow deep in my heart i always have a doubt about the endless struggle in this cold country
If you are well settled, why even think about moving out of India?
They always end up stacking boxes, sweeping floors and cleaning toilets in Toronto or Montreal. They don’t listen man!
The sad part is that many of these mature newcomers are angry with everyone once they realize their destiny in Canada, instead of complaining to the lying government officials & sketchy immigration lawyers for fooling them into coming here.
I arrived to Canada at age 14, and I’m underemployed. I could imagine a professional newcomer in his 40s or 50s having to clean public toilets and struggling to fend off homelessness in Toronto. This is the reality.
Canadian jobs tend to be protected through associations who maintain the status quo of hiring only Canadians, while blocking immigrants from working in those professions.
Canada is also becoming very costly to live, and to be honest, what makes your case different from the thousands of immigrants from India who have to work dead-end jobs until they die prematurely of cancer, mental breakdowns, diabetes and other ailments which become aggravated when living in Canada.
Andrew Scheer is about to become PM of Canada this Autumn, and this spells increased racism in Canada. The Trump Effect is also in Canada, though very subtle and extremist.
Canada needs welders, construction workers, and truckers. However, it uses education as a screening policy to weed out uneducated people coming to Canada. So if you are a dentist, you will be told that Canada has a lot of unfilled jobs. If you read that as jobs for dentists then that is your problem. Your education can get you an entry in Canada but Canada does not have jobs in your field. If you want to use your education as entry credentials and then take up a job as a trucker then you will be perfectly fine. If you think that you will come here as a dentist then you are wrong.
But still life in Canada is better as compared to india and dubai,i mean no pollution,less traffic,clean water etc.Would you advice anyone who is well settled in middle east or india to immigrate to canada?
Less traffic?
You surely haven’t heard of the gridlock and transit woes of Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal!
If you want to come here to clean toilets and mop floors for the rest of your life, while your wife and daughters disrespect you and you can’t do anything or else they will send you to jail—then go ahead. Come to Canada as a janitor.
Parag, I’m a university graduate who couldn’t even find a job in my field since 2017! I’ve been doing temp work and Starbucks barista jobs for the few years after I graduated in Chemical Engineering.
Alberta doesn’t even have jobs for chemical engineers these days, because the large oil companies have laid off thousands of engineers, journeymen and even office clerk as downsizing is present, and most of the oil is being invested in offshore Newfoundland.
I don’t get why Indian nationals are painting a rosy picture of Canada, even when they are well-off in their home country. Why would they leave their affluent life in India to clean floors and toilets in Toronto?!
A guide to surviving in Canada as an immigrant:
1.) Do not believe the propaganda about Canada being such a great, friendly country. It is deeply, deeply racist and the majority of white people will be “nice” to your face but as soon as you turn around they will stab you in the back. It’s because it has been disconnected from meaningful cross-ethnic and racial interactions for its entire 150 years and has been food sped delusions about its white superiority. The aboriginals have been too politically powerless and numerically small to really do anythign about it
2.) If you are able to find and nurture community and friendships in Canada then it may not be as difficult to deal with the other terrible things about Canada (lack of culture, lack of true civility and soul, lack of every-day intellectual pursuits, lack of actualy acceptance and welcoming, lack of lack of. Oh, and Canada is a haven for pedophiles and perverts, so protect your kids)
3.) Be prepared for being passed over in work for a white colleague or a person of color who is more palatable to the white upper management. Because you are not white you will always be a threat unless you are able to prove to them you are not. Which usually means de-fenestrating your soul
4.) Never, ever, EVER give up your culture, language, belief system or your cultural reality even though there will be massive pressure for you to assimilate (the official term is “integration” but thats just the liberal multicultural racism showing) completely. Bear in mind your children will also carry that burden and will most likely have to go through feelings of shame, inferiority, isolation etc unless they DO assimilate. Are you prepared to put your kids through that?
5.) Be prepared to clean toilets like someone above said. The accreditation process is terrible. The point system wasn’t invented to help immigrants gain a real foothold upon arrival, it was meant to “weed out the undesirables”. Meaning: you are good enough to be a doctor in your country of origin, but in Canada only good enough to do entry-level labor jobs thus not threatening white Canadian economic advantages too much.
I am noticing that thousands of indians are moving to canada every year in the guise of express entry just for the better pastures,but do they ever realize the truth and harshness of these western countries where you have to work till your grave just to pay loan and mortgages.Are they not aware of the deep struggle they have to endure while migrating to canada,why doesnt any immigration consultant tells all these on there face?
I’m aware of college graduates being offered jobs on the condition that they work for free for “Canadian job experience”. We’re talking of students who spent tens of thousands of their own money, and Canadian employers only want them to work for free pay.
Meanwhile, the boss’s son or daughter will graduate from the top universities in Canada, take a first class flight to a “third world country” and own a business and live like Kings and Queens, but the locals will migrate to Canada and end up living like beggars.
If that isn’t a continuation of colonialism, then what is?
Someone posted that one has to get a resume and do mock interviews for janitor jobs? Is this still happening in major cities like Toronto?
And let’s face it: Canada is not a landmass, but only a few major metropolises such as Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal.
Rents will eat over 50% of your earnings, that is, if you can even find a job. I suspect that many job postings are fake and intended to make it appear that Canada has a thriving job market. Fake job postings as in those jobs don’t exist, and when there are interviews, they will say, that the job is already given to a ghost employee.
Recently i met my senior colleague whos a leading practitioner in one of the leading cities in india,hes earning 12-15 lakhs inr per annum.Though he cleared first two part exam of canadian licensing dentistry,i warned him not to go to canada as canadians dont want non white or brown dentist. Even after clearing all exams he has to work at junior level dentist,plus high cost of living and taxes makes it worse for an immigrant.I dont see any special upgrade upon practicing dentistry in canada as compared to india for him.
He will be lucky to even get a toilet cleaning or factory work if he moves to globalist cities like Toronto. If he’s smart and moves to suburban Canada, he will have to install grills and alarms at his property because racists will vandalize his property. There are stories of self-employed immigrants who have to constantly clean racist grafitti and board up their windows because the racists don’t want them in their backwater small towns.
The world has followed the teachings of Adolf Hitler and facists, and this is seeping into Canada.
@Parag:
I was helping a man in his 40s with some applications for toilet cleaning jobs. His career spanned working 15 years in some of the most elite banks in Asia and Africa (Singapore, Malaysia and South Africa).
He migrated to Canada with his family six years ago. He brought with him $85,000 in Canadian equivalent from his home country and within a year, he was at his last penny. His Landlord kicked his family to the curb because he was unable to renew his lease without proof of income.
His wife did some housekeeping work for minimum wage, and he spent several months doing temp jobs such as cleaning offices at the graveyard shift because he was lured into studying part time for a Canadian high school diploma. Despite a dual-income couple, many landlords were refusing to rent them apartments, and he now has to rent a larger apartment because his minor child has become a teenager and wants their own room. It is also “child abuse” to have a teenage child sleeping in the living room.
He now has to apply for full-time work, and he can only find toilet cleaning. I helped him with his resume, cover letter and did a mock interview with him for this toilet cleaning job. His wage would be only 15 cents above minimum wage, and he has to lift 70lbs+ on a regular basis without the use of automation or machinery.
Canada has brought remnants of British slavery, but worse, because educated immigrants are being coerced indirectly to beg for toilet cleaning jobs. This should be a concern to the International Human Rights Court.
To be fair, for the most part, Canada and Australia became free in 1982 and 1986 respectively. Until this point, the UK parliament had the right to disapprove any changes in the Canadian constitution. I have read the Canadian constitution and it is a mess. Nothing is straight forward. The rights of citizens are not clearly written. Words such as traditions and culture are used, which can have a wide range of interpretations. Individuals and collective rights are emphasized. Most of it sounds British. The British never wanted Canada or Australia to be free so they tried to hold power over them. After World War II when America became a superpower, it tried to break the British monopoly. to open up markets for American products. This may have resulted in the British loosening grip over these two countries. To make things worse, people in Quebec sometimes want to have their own separate country. The native Indians/Cree are pushed up north and are provided poor infrastructure so that they cannot travel and assimilate in Canada. The natives lose benefits if they breed with non-natives because the resulting children are not considered natives. As a result, natives are inbreeding and banging their first cousins just to keep their benefits. Multiple languages, multiple cultures, multiple rules and regulations will lead to restricted opportunities. The Canadian constitution will look the other way when problems arise. It is not a constitution that has clarity as to what exactly are Canadian values. Without clarity on any aspect of life, Canada is a rudderless ship.
The Queen of England owns most of the land in Canada, called “Crown Land”. One has to obtain a permit to enter those “Crown Lands” or else the RCMP (Canadian equivalent of FBI) sends helicopters and armed cops to arrest those “trespassers”.
If you ever played the game Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and played the part of entering a military base, this is what happens when one enters Crown Land. Armed cops will arrest those “trespassers”.
Canadian experience I think Canada will become canakustan in 10 years due to influx of illegal immigrants from middle east and the whites will become minorities and resort to ultra right wing violence
Racial tensions are already growing in Canada. Racist European Nazi supporters bring their Hitler ideologies into Canada, and they commit hate crimes against anyone who looks Muslim or follows Judaism.
Hindus are not spared from anti-Islamic hate crimes because there are stories of Hindu temples being burned down by racist whites. Police will never find the perpetrators because they support this in their hearts.
Immigrants have to volunteer; ie work for FREE, to gain “Canadian experience”. It used to be $1,000/month to rent (2009) a one bedroom in the Toronto neighbourhoods of North York or Scarborough, but rent is now $1,850+ for the same apartment (2019). It’s still the same concrete shoebox with a history of hauntings or a murder site, but the rent has skyrocketed in Toronto. Inflation doesn’t explain this increase of almost 10% annually.
So Canada goes and gives asylum to that saudi woman who had barricaded herself in Thailand hotel. Pretty soon more freeloaders from Saudi are going to come to Canada.
They are increasing the immigration cap to 350,000 and refugee cap to 100,000 yearly until 2021. Prepare to pay $2,000 a month to rent a roach-infested studio (no bedroom) apartment.
Wait a minute…Saudi Arabia is a wealthy oil country with 100s of billions of barrels of oil, why would they flee to Canada?
A rich country with monarch is really not rich as Monarchy takes away 50% of the wealth. They offer tax-free incomes so that they can have full control on the population. Anyone can be accused of anything and beheaded. Even Jamal Khassogi was killed in Turkey embassy and no one in Saudi Arabia is allowed to question. Anyway, it is the women in Saudi Arabia that are running and feminist in Canada love the sisterhood of rescuing them. Women were not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia or even seen alone without a man. It is hell so they flee and ask for Asylum. The problem is that these women may not be aware of all the taxes they have to pay and work they have to do just to survive. The amount of tax money that Canadians are going to invest in her will really go to waste. This woman will probably work as an escort because that the only way you can earn tax free money in Canada.
True. I’ve read of stories where Saudi Princes spend tens of thousands of dollars a night for their prized Caucasian woman who shockingly doesn’t get held at US Customs when returning from those Dubai-esque countries.
Escorts are a dime a dozen in Toronto and Montreal but Canadians, especially middle class and upper class women, side with Bible-thumpers to make such a trade illegal, though I would shudder to think what would happen if Canadian men are denied these services as dating is tough. Dating is where females get modern values, but men have to stick with 18th century values.
So this new Canadian taxpayer’s Saudi princess has strange views about Canada. She wants to make her own decisions, get an education of her choice and a career of her choice in Canada. All paid for by Canadian taxpayers. She did not bring a dime to Canada and has cut off all ties with her family. What an entitled person!
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/15/americas/saudi-teen-asylum-intl/index.html
Millions more of these “Empowered” Saudis are going to seek asylum in Canada. Contrarily, refuges who have a case will have to wait until their heads get cut off by a cartel to be approved for asylum.
This woman has already lost in the Canadian system. She does not know English. By the time she learns English and gets an education, she will be 26 years old. Until then she is not earning and is a burden. Canadians are hypocrites. The bring worthless people and make them strain the system. Next, they lie and bring legal educated English speaking immigrants, who bring money with them, and drain the resources they bring while keeping them unemployed or underemployed. There is additional foolishness that I have noticed among Canadians. They think that they are loved in the world for their values and Americans are hated. Well, as an American, all I see is more hypocrisy. You can talk about all the feminist and liberal values and even generosity of how you rescue women from oppression. None of that matters when you have discrimination written in your constitution. The Canadian constitution does not believe all humans are created equal because it puts the queen at the top. This kind of human idolatry is evil. The foundation of Canada rests on such evil.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2019/01/18/under-the-gardiner-we-check-in-on-each-other-thats-kind-of-the-reason-to-be-here.html
Canada is a feminist country. They will offer free housing, jobs and monthly stipends for this Saudi feminist, but mostly men, will have to sleep on the streets under a bridge while the feminist refugees (femfugees) get free modern housing.
Public housing is scarce in Canada that a man has to wait 15+ years for a consideration for tenancy, but this Saudi Arabian princess will get free housing of the best stock. She is probably living in an upscale condo with 24/7 concierge security.
Educated immigrants from India who would become successful entrepreneurs in the USA, former British, French and Dutch colonies and some parts of Europe: they will be CONDEMNED into a perpetual fear of homelessness and destitution because of intellectual discrimination.
Canada does choose the best immigrants and then make them beg for toilet cleaning work.
Canada also brings in the most low class immigrants and train them to attack educated immigrants under a bizarre form of socialism. Social workers will tell low class migrants and refugees that the educated middle class in their home countries are oppressors, and they must attack them and make their lives miserable when they migrate to Canada.
Educated immigrants from India might as well learn Dutch or French and relocate to former British, Dutch or French colonies.
Canada uplifts the gutter stench, and brings down the educated immigrants.You’re exactly right. This Arabian princess from a backwards country will be taught to promote an agenda.
That is why I love the right to own guns. These Canadians show up in America for all the feminist protests. It is all fine in America, but if feminism really takes hold in the USA then women will start getting their asses shot and women in America know it. Equality is what I signed up for in America. Any quotas would just be unacceptable. In a country when people have the right to own guns, everything hangs in a balance. Everyone is watching everyone else. The only way to keep the peace is a commitment to equality. Any significant biases will be correct by the government as it knows what would happen if such corrections are not made.
Canadian feminists brainwash women immigrants to hate their husbands, fathers and sons. It’s an industry. Bring in millions of immigrants, refugees and international students yearly, and then have the paper pushing government workers teach them how to hate men.
These women will break from their families, husbands and communities to work in a factory for 60+ hours a week to pay half of those wages to rent a crappy apartment, and quarter of the wages for transportation costs which take 4 hours of a woman’s day.
When she reaches 65, her pension will barely pay for her apartment, so she has to downsize and live in a government-funded retirement home or apartment complex, and no one will talk to her until police and paramedics discover her several month decomposed corpse after complaints of a foul odor in the apartment building.
This is Canada for you. Unlike the USA melting pot where everyone is a community despite the hard grind lifestyle of cities such as NYC. Canada is worse.
It is well-known fact that human idolatry is bad and evil. What is worse is that Canadian PM openly mentions that he is feminist. I cannot imagine any US politicians saying that because that is “gender idolatry,” which is entirely unconstitutional and against the principles of inequality. Not only the Canadian constitution recognizes discrimination by giving recognization of inequality and idolizing monarchy, Canadian PM openly brags about discriminatory gender biases.
Americans are generally polite and would not denigrate political ideologies of other countries. They will play stupid. However, that does not mean that we do not know or notice bad things. We notice bad things in other countries so well that we actively fight hard to keep America from getting contaminated from these bad foreign ideologies.
In fact, the only way a society can remain united is when it commits to equality. Politicians play favorites to divide a society to gain power. This is exactly what the Canadian PM does with his feminist declarations, which actually reflects on Canadian society as it is complicit in such ideologies.
I meant principles of equality and not principles of inequality.
parag exactly india is also commonwealth,but still better than canada and australia who treats immigrants like slaves. Atleast an indian will become manager in his own country inspite of reservation but a doctor from india will be bound to work as a janitor in canada simply because he dont have any bullshit canadian experience.Canadian experience is just a part of corporate corruption which boosts third grade canadian universities by increase in there revenue through immigrants funds.
If you’re migrating to Canada, they will not recognize you as a doctor unless you complete Medical School, complete Residency (which is biased against immigrants in favour of Canadian-born females), and also pay dues to the Canadian Medical Association.
There were cases where immigrants who used the “Dr/MD/Phd.” designation but lack Canadian experience who were given warnings from the unions, professional bodies and government, in most cases, warnings of jail time.
Common, Canadian universities are not all that bad. They are excellent. In fact, Canadian universities are one thing that Canada should be proud of.
yes very few canadian universities are world class,but most of the universities are average and in par with manythird world countries
International students are being scammed. Why would anyone spend $25k+ a year on tuition and live in rooms for $1,000 month to work $10/hr baffles me.
Free speech doesn’t exist in 99.9% of Canadian universities located within Ontario.
American professors, political activists and even homeless pick up artists get huge protests where the protestors get violent and accuse anyone supporting such Americans conflating with war crimes.
Warren Farrell was a professor who had to quit his talks after students pulled the fire alarm and forced everyone to evacuate the University of Toronto campus. A student who supported this criminal behaviour became famous “Chanty Binx”.
i even heard that in small cities and outskirts if any male migrant talks to any random female in bar ,he kight be killed by jealous and racist white males around her,all in the name of diversity of canada.Canada is no less racist country than many EU countries
If one is brown in complexion, they are lumped together with Muslims. You could even refuse to eat beef, and they wouldn’t believe you’re not a Muslim migrant. Canada has imported nasty racism from Eastern Europe and Germany.
@ Parag, I only dont agree with your suggestion that your dividend is being cut at the expense of the things you mentioned. you are very capitalist minded. i have same argument with my sister who is in US and has her way of thinking. you cant see that canada is a socialist country? the point of human being is not to just generate money. that’s what capitalism consummerism is based on. i know you admire that. it is causing the middle class to vanish. the rest of the world doesnt want that. they are trying to establish a stable middle class first then we can talk about reaching for the stars.
if it was upto you, you would buy the indian govt too. people have other things in life to deal with, not just work 18hr/day. someone working 14hr or 12 is a lost soul.
The only thing i agree with is canada should stop catering to the freeloader who dont have any genuine excuse to not work. they just reaping the benifits of other people’s work.
The problem with humans is that “..they are trying to establish a stable middle class..” This is the same argument Obama made and that is how human misery begins. Some person decided what is good for society and then gives power to the government and then government abuses people. The world is full of winners and losers. What the world does not need is people who hold power. I will always be against socialism. Even American capitalism is not 100% capitalism. America has its social programs and welfare. What America does best is to keep those programs as small as possible. This allows America to keep both taxes and inflation under check.
What many have noticed within Canada is that mediocrity is celebrated while innovation is stifled and punished. There is no room for entrepreneurship in Canada, making Canada no different than a 3rd world country with an image of free healthcare and a 1st world cost of living.
It is the same crap as India. Deserving people are not paid good wages, and reservation quotas give more opportunities to incompetent people. The government assumes power and tries to distribute wealth and debt waivers to people who do not manage their money well. The rationale the government gives is that it is trying to bring disadvantaged people out of poverty. No one wants to live in such countries. It is best that the government has as little power as possible. This is the only way hard working people work hard as they get to keep the money for themselves. In fact, the British loved socialism so much that they coined the term “common wealth.” Basically, it is that you do all the work and then put your earnings in a common pot from which I also take your earned money. Everyone wants to be managers in such societies and no one wants to work. So they go and find immigrants who not only bring money but work hard, pay taxes and go back to their own country of origin once they can no longer work. Even then the Canadian government comes in and takes an exit tax.
Immigrants fail to realize that Canada is an entirely different country than the USA; a huge mistake for many who think that they can work their way to the top, especially in cities such as Toronto, which is the only large city in Canada.
Nepotism and cronyism exist in Canada, but under a cloaked extent, and employers here have to hire strictly women, regardless of qualifications, or else be sent to the Social Justice Tribunals for discrimination. Canada is on the process of giving 2-years paid maternity leave that employers must pay, or else be sued at the SJTO.
Educated immigrants will have to work cleaner jobs and fast food jobs because even a job like the trades or security guard require way more exams, testing & paperwork compared to the USA.
Canada does its best to give the run-a-round to immigrants who want to work in their fields.
I can repeat this millions of times, but anyone from outside Canada who is a lawyer, doctor, dentist, surgeon or high-paying profession WILL RARELY, IF EVER, work in those fields even if they pay $30,000+year for redoing university courses.
Many of these immigrants will spend the first 5 years in Canada struggling to work as a factory helper, toilet cleaner or fast food chef.
Immigrants will not get entry level jobs in their fields, even if they do a 2-yr diploma or 4-yr degree for “Canadian Experience”.
Those jobs are reserved for Canadian-born teenagers these days at the government places which offer way higher incentives and government pension benefits than working 50+ hours in a 21st century immigrant labour camp.
then why many indian immigrants are migrating der,inspite of knowing the shortcomings?
Promotion. Canada spends billions of dollars opening satellite offices around the world promoting Canada as a place to immigrate. This is similar to the USSR’s propaganda machine.
To immigrate to the USA, they plainly tell you to get a job or sponsored before moving. Canada encourages middle and upper class immigrants to come without a job and saying that there are jobs here. Lies.
@Parag
see this is what i meant. you are a positivist. you wont change your mind. you see everything in terms of win or loss. you blame qoutas for helping the unworthy people. the purpose of humans is not just to win at any cost. we spoke about this before. the govt gets voted. if you talk about fairness, then the govt should also look after the population who are losers. that’s the job of a human being. otherwise, we can get robot as leaders to run our society with programming built in that the rich can only pay for to run it in their own likeness. you are sick!! just like your vision, i will never support capitalism or communism. we need to have balance which is socialism. the capitalism of the USA has is destroying the planet and now they talking about mars so they can destroy another place
Canada has government colluded capitalism which is fascism. Only a few families own 99% of the business industries in Canada, even worse in Quebec where a set of families and the Mafia owns most of the economy.
yes true i heard there is lot of nepotism and red tape while searching jobs in canada,plus the unions and other monopolies make finding jobs for immigrants tougher and many even have to work for very low wages just to garner experience
Humans are greedy by very nature and Capitalism is acknowledging the truth. When I go to a socialist system and start spending money, I see people looking at me jealously. This includes Canada. Socialism is hypocrisy where truth is denied for some emotional nonsense of social justice. All people in socialist countries are trying to make money. Most rich in Canada are trying to evade taxes just to keep more of their money for themselves. I do not care what people say about the USA. We are Capitalists and we will remain Capitalists. Keep socialism to your country; and enjoy a lower standard of living, higher taxes and long queues in hospitals. I prefer the American lifestyle.
Activist groups, from the Communist Party to the upper class feminist wearing D&G glasses and $1,000 heels, never question why Justin Trudeau and his Liberal cronies are the biggest tax dogers and their finance Minister operates a company which facilitates tax dodging by the uber-wealthy elite.
No, they harass small businesses and wage online smear campaigns against middle class men. Feminists in the USA demand that Trump release his tax returns, but their Democrat senators are suspected of evading taxes and collecting bribes, becoming millionaires overnight.
salman capitalism is for winners and ambitious people,not for losers.Why would a doctor or scientist work so hard if he will be paid the same amount as clerk or the nurse is getting in salary.There is no concept of reward or incentives in communism,you just have to work and slog like a dog and in the end of your life u will feel theres no difference between you and a labourer.All this for a Ponzi socialist system called communism,to run this stupid system they need lot of muscle power,thats why communist regimes were the most brutal and bloodthirsty regime in history.Many talented sportsman from Russia and other eastern bloc migrated to west in 1980s to live a good life and fulfull there dreams,as they didn’t have money to fulfill there desires in communist regimes.Canada is good for low skilled immigrant(who are not ambitious)particular muslim and African refuges,they get the work of janitor or labourer while many don’t pay taxes and enjoy funds in the form of EI(employment insurance)
Canada is socialist that they spend billions of dollars into coercing foreign countries to tailor their laws to Canadian gender policy, but a homeless Afghan-Iraq war veteran suffering from PTSD is left to die on the frozen streets.
Canada is going full-blown crony communist.
Canada is a country where the educated immigrant from India or Pakistan will have to be bossed around by a refugee in a minimum wage job. This is the reality.
Those lower caste people who live in shanty towns back home, will rule over the educated immigrants and destroy their dignity in the process. This is Canada and their identity SJW-feminist politics in action. Canada doesn’t care if you were a surgeon who saved lives in India or Iran; once a refugee or feminist boss doesn’t like you, out you go into the -30C weather and likely to be harassed by nationalist groups who beat homeless people to death for fun.
What Canada lacks compared to India and Pakistan is a hierarchial order. A doctor in India or Pakistan would never be treated as a dog. Even dogs are treated with humanity in Canada. They have hospitals for dogs, but people can’t find a hospital without long wait times in Canada because of overpopulation in the cities.
exactly in the name of equality and freedom, educated and highly skilled immigrants from india and pakistan are lumped with the freeloaders from arab and african countries
This is why educated migrants should think very hard before coming here.
Canada is becoming no different than racist European countries like Germany or Poland.
It is not over population but under capacity. The problem with socialism is that government cuts funding on capacity expansion and infrastructure and pays in benefits. People see benefits and think that overpopulation is leading to crowding. For nearly 350 million population, when I need an x-ray done in the US. I am in and out in 15 minutes because I get a list of 10 places where I can visit for x-ray.
True, and Canada is a monopoly and we don’t have 100s of cities to move to, unless it’s some backwater town that is underfunded by design.
Brampton Ontario has grown by 50%+ in the last 10 years, but only has one major hospital. Population is currently 800,000 (2017), but will increase to 1,000,000 by 2020-2021.
Canada views that forcing everyone into the 4 major cities, Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary and Montreal is “sustainable”.
canada will not cut off freebies as it need immigrants money to run its multibillion dollars business,and more and more stupid and naive immigrants from india and pakistan are applying for express entry every year,thinking that express entry is like some lottery that will change there life.
The conclusion of the posts is that life is not rosy anywhere,if india has problem of pollution and poor infrastructure then these western nations have high cost of living(specially high taxes),intellectual racism and bullying as demerit.Many indians are fascinated by the hunky dory of the west(mostly due to hollywood movies) as its obvious they havent seen these infrastructure anywhere in india,meanwhile they spend lakhs of rupees for immigration hoping to migrate to there so called dreamworld,after immigrating they realize they have to start from bottom,living paycheque to paycheque for years before finally settling in there field.Canada wants most of the immigrants to earn 30-40k,once an immigrant starts earning beyond 40k they erect barriers and make excuses to fire him/her from job thats where intellectual racism comes into play.Even after working 5 -10 years an immigrant doesnt have any appreciable saving due to high taxes and high cost of living,then they realize they were far better in there home country,but now they cant go back as they are caught up in these vicious cycle of economic slavery.
Immigrants even struggle to find volunteer positions, as in unpaid work for a foot in the door for paid work.
Can you believe that immigrants are told that they have to work for free by someone who is getting paid a lavish salary compared to the average Canadian?
How can Indians willingly work for free under a country whose Head of State is the Queen of England? Heck, even England isn’t as snobby as the elitist culture of Toronto.
Canada has adopted elitism that would make British nobility of the 1500s blush in embarrassment. Long ago, Canada did need immigrants to serve tables, clean floors and work low wages, but now even Canadian-born citizens fight for these jobs. Don’t be fooled by the fancy condos and paid advertisement columns, an immigrant will have to struggle for decades before even earning $30,000/yr.
seems iike Canadian experience u have lived and experienced a lot in canada,ur comments are very harsh and to the the point.Truth is always bitter,canada is just a public property of queen england
Lots of aspiring immigrants sell their houses, land and companies to live in a very costly Canadian city, and forced to work as indentured workers. It pains my heart to see successful people being lured into a trap.
Canada must be poor financially and mentally if they have to deceive people from poorer countries to bring everything that they have, even for generations, to spend that in Canada and then get tossed aside once the money runs out.
An Indian immigrant once chorused, “If you’re educated you wouldn’t be homeless in India, but in Canada, you can have a Phd. or doctorate, and you’re one paycheck away from living on the streets”.
Canadian stock market has given me shitty returns so Canada is financially screwed. I blame freeloaders in Canada who are mortgaging the country’s future for freebies. The government is incompetent as all it cares for is giving freebies to freeloaders by bringing in immigrants with money, taxing rich in Canada, taxing tourists and corporations. There is more. Canadian companies appear to give generous holidays and wages to their workers at the expense of cutting dividends to investors like me. The feminist based entitlements are further cutting productivity. The result is I have stopped investing in Canadian stocks. I will never do it again. I am keeping the investments that I already have only for the sake of diversification.
Canada is bringing in more worthless refugees to give them more freebies. The uncompetitive Canadian market is not going to attract money so it may survive on scams for a while but the long-term future for Canada is dim. It has gotten to a point that Canadian government is unable to even fund its NORAD responsibilities. Canada wants America to take over the responsibility of protecting North America. The cheapsters want to stay in the F-35 program to keep jobs in Canada, but want to buy cheap European fighters to save money. Enough is enough, it is time for Canada to cut off freebies and get its fiscal house in order.
The Trudeau government has given billions of dollars to feminist organizations, and bailed out the Canadian-propaganada media outlets which promote a feminist agenda.
Corporations within Ontario are always in fear of a sexual harassment or discrimination lawsuit by a woman, and this creates huge red tape for businesses who have to spend millions of dollars into lawsuit and insolvency protection as one complaint, whether unfounded or founded, can result in a business going under and receiving harassment from activist groups.
Canada police shoots innocent female passenger, seems canadian police is learning from US police regarding how to shoot suspects.
Police here don’t care if you are upper class or poorer class; they are trained to use machine guns if the suspect only breathes erratically. The Toronto Police have guns which can pierce through concrete pillars, and tasers which can induce heart failure in those with cardiovascular problems & this is why many Canadians are afraid of going out because getting into police issues is like facing death these days.
A sewage rat or cockroach would have more rights than you if it was a female in Canada. Men aren’t treated with respect or faith in Canada because the system pits women against men, and the uber-elite who own 90%+ of Canada’s local economy promote this as no one other than them will live the American Dream.
Only in Canada would educated doctors end up driving taxis or cleaning toilets until they die. I know of stories on websites where many men had their wives divorcing them, their children complaining to Children’s Aid for cultural differences and eventually some men end their lives. [which were mysteriously forced offline by the Canadian gov’t].
America doesn’t do this to foreigners because one would have to get sponsored by a company or government policy in the first place.
Canada lies to foreigners and then when those foreigners immigrate, they are doomed to poverty and bad luck, because the system is rigged that no one will get rich or wealthy, except a few. There are rarely any stories of immigrants making it big in Canada, and those few got rich by the USA industries.
@ Parag: I’ve noticed that many educated Indians and Pakistanis are scared of migrating to either USA or Canada because of the same issue—bigoted people from Canada and America lump them in the same category as illegal migrants who invaded Europe.
Even the Caribbean folk who usually migrate to have a higher standard of life, are hesitant of moving to Canada, USA or Europe because of fear that they would be lumped together with illegal migrants.
I’ve read on forums how Trinidadian men whose ancestors came from India and central Asia are being lumped together with illegal migrants from Syria, a country located far away from their ancestral homelands.
One person I’ve spoken with saw a Caucasian Canadian man attempting to attack a Sikh youngster in broad daylight. These bigoted people don’t know the difference between anyone who isn’t from their street.
America is a Capitalist country and that makes a lot of difference. I faced a minor dispute in where I live, I called cops. Cops ran through my name and instantly believed me. Why? Because I am the biggest tax payer where I live. If I get upset and leave this place then the locality loses tax revenue that I contribute and cops will have to take a pay cut. In fact, the whole dispute was out of jealousy because I make a lot of money and people do not like it. Once I called cops, everyone is put in place as the pecking order is established and no one messes with me anymore. That does not mean that I am arrogant, but my humbleness was considered as weakness by some people. In American jargon, people tested me.
To your point, do not come to America if you cannot strike rich. It is a country for the rich. If you are average or poor then you will face constant harassment in America. You will be treated with disdain because a Capitalist system chases money all the time. If you do not have money then you are worthless. Cops are not going to listen to you because you are not contributing revenue towards their salaries. A lot of people who fail to make it in America will consider Canada as heaven.
I also have a right to own a gun and a right to defend myself at home so no one can do anything to me at home without getting shot first. My home is my domain and my own laws prevail in that domain.
Capitalism works in other ways too. Every city is trying to raise its tax revenues, so all cities will be welcoming cities. No one wants bigoted people who would turn away rich immigrants who are source of potential tax revenue. As a result, US law enforcement is the best in the world to keep communities safe. Yes, you may have gun shooting and killings, but at the end of it, the shooter is either dead or caught, charged and convicted where he will likely never be free again. If the shooting is racially motivated then the death penalty is on the table.
With all that said, the human envies and perceptions may exist in the US as anywhere else, but there are not too many incentives to act on those envies. If you act, you are crushed because people do not want their property prices falling because a city gets a bad rep. Rules in America are very different than the rest of the world.
Thats my point many immigrants club jealousy and racism together this may be case for canada and australia,but usa is far more liberal in giving opportunities to immigrants as compared to canada and monarch australia both of which are property of evil queen
Yes, to a great extent this is true. When you come to the USA, you will rarely see low level jobs done by immigrants. Wealth is evenly distributed among all races in the USA, and you cannot judge anyone based on how they look. In fact, when I enter Canada, immigration officials in Canada always seperate me and question me. Then they send me to secondary immigration check where they are totally embarassed because as soon as they put my passport in the computer, they realize that I have been visiting Canada for over 20 years and I spent over $100,000 in my trips alone. On the contrary, when I come back to US. The only thing US immigration official says is “Welcome to the USA.” I am done in 15 seconds. American decision-making at all levels is computer aided decision making. People make fun of how Americans cannot count money, but they do not understand is that Americans are not supposed to count. Computers are supposed to tell them how much money they should return. The human aspect of judgement is taken out of common American behavior. When computers are used, decisions are consistent and it does not matter which human is standing behind the computer. Additionally, the decisions are also efficient.
Many immigrants believe that Canada is polite version of USA, but in reality its a heterogenous land of immigrants living in a cold country north of USA. Number of jobs/opportunities are less as there is very less recognition and value of talent. Tell me one thing or any field in which Canada is ahead or has a name of its own except Blackberry. Most of the companies are US-based and most of the jobs are in trades, so there is nothing for highly educated immigrants here, most of the universities and colleges are just above average with faculty even worse than that are teaching in third-world countries. 100k dollars jobs are reserved for white Caucasians.There is a definite glass ceiling for immigrants beyond which they can’t progress or being promoted in job.
In liberal Canadian cities such as Toronto, if there was a dispute between an upper class man and a Canadian woman, the man would get his property seized, arrested, and forced into bankruptcy because of a Canadian woman with a feminist agenda.
Countless numbers of businessmen are packing their bags and leaving Canada solely because the women are causing legal issues to their businesses and livelihoods.
America has been receiving the trickle down effect of the social ills of Canada (#MeToo), but this has been going on in Canada for decades, and kept censored from the international eye.
There are so many Canadian businesses which have to set aside a legal fund for trivial lawsuits. A business can get sued for even implementing a dress code, if it offends a social agenda.
Doing business is very risky in cities such as Toronto, that some employers deliberately refuse to hire certain backgrounds of men in fear that those men will offend a female co-worker.
There are two things I like to add. I own Toronto Stock Exchange index fund in my portfolio and I realized that it is the worst performing stock market in the world for the last 10 years. There are two reasons for this: First, Canada has become an entitled society, and second is these feminism based liberal strategies are coming to hurt the Canadian economy. While people are complaining here that immigrants cannot find jobs. I think most people in Canada cannot find jobs. Canadian laws are making it harder for small businesses to thrive. There are revenue limits beyond which taxes are imposed. The carbon tax is also becoming a contentious issue. The second thing is that Canada imposes “exit” tax. If you plan to leave Canada then Canada is going to make you pay as well. So Canada will scam you into coming to Canada and if you barely make it and buy a home and acquire equity worth $100K and then decide to leave Canada because your career is not growing or going anywhere, Canada will give you an exit tax bill.
Canada was not always like that. It was a better country with happy people 15-20 years ago. Everything has changed so fast. If it continues on this path then things will get really bad 10 years from now. Even mainstream media is noticing drop in Canadian productivity. Being a smaller economy, it cannot attract funding either so immigration remains their primary source of revenue.
Rothchild controlled feminism has destroyed canada along with liberal immigration from third world countries,its simple the country which allows so much of immigrants is bound to fail and collapse
100k is for slum house u need atleast 300k-500k to buy a condo,so ur entire life is blocked being a slave of this mortgage,its new kind kind of western economic slavery where u work for loan and bank,the bank and the government robs you of taxes and loans,ultimately u realize you work so ahrd and slog ur a** everyday just to pay loans and taxes,where is ur happiness?and god forbids if u lose ur job the bank takes ur home,cars everything and will throw you to die on cold streets of canada where even ur friends and close relatives will fail to recognise you.How many indians have u seen in top management positions in canada and australia?
Canada is now under a feminist-communist occupation that many businesses have to be very careful if they offend a Canadian woman, whether she is employed with the company, or whether a customer or random person.
There was a story where Ritz-Carlton and other 5 star hotels were sent to a Social Justice Tribunal because a random woman went 100+ miles to Ottawa and demanded that she be nude at the facility’s swimming pools.
She sued the City of Cornwall, which is in SE Ontario and went hundreds of miles north to Ottawa, almost near Quebec, to coerce several hotels into allowing her to be naked at their family swmming pool.
@Ashu, $100000 can’t even buy a plot of land in Ontario, unless one wants to live way up north where there are no roads, no infrsatruture, or even signs of life.
The policy of the government of Canada is to force everyone into the cities, Agenda 21 policy.
Why would an upper class person from India work under an illiterate refugee who got a job because of working years before?
Canada forces educated and upper class immigrants to work with what one would call “undesirables” who would be illiterate and living in shacks of overpopulated cities in Asia.
This would be a slap in the face for an educated immigrant to be bossed around by such people because jobs are scarce in Canada. Why work as a general labourer or janitor and be bossed around by the lower classes?
Theres no probelm in legal immigration as it benefits the nation and immigrants both,but what canada practices is unhealthy immigration where it lumps both high class and low class immigrants into one group called second class workers for doing blue collar jobs.Canada never nourishes nor accepts talent of overseas immigrants,for them all immigrants should do blue collar jobs and pay heavy taxes for subsidizing its older citizens.Trump intentions are dangerous and it gives boost to white supremacist ideas resembling that of ku klax clan in early 1960s.
my friend says dentists earn more in canada than usa, then i reminded him about the heavy taxes in canada which is about 40%. so u will never become rich in canada unlike usa. Canada is for low ambition refugees everything is 1.5 times costly than USA, and how many immigrant dentists and doctors enter canadian system its just 5-10% unlike USA where immigrants have fair chances to assimilate in the system.
Hearsay isn’t solid proof…Salaries are lower for entry level dentists while those who are White Canadian-born and graduated in the 70s and 80s are making the highest amounts.
There is no way an immigrant doctor will earn a higher salary in Canada because they would be struggling to even be hired for general labour jobs for $14/hr in Toronto. Rent is $1,500+ hydro for an apartment that was likely the scene of a meth lab, prostitution or a murder scene.
It’s a bad omen to be living in such places of negativity.
@ Parag Canada is a 3rd world backwater country compared to the USA. The cost of living in major cities like Toronto has skyrocketed because of too many illegal immigrants moving to one city.
Trump isn’t “racist” for stopping illegal immigrants; what would happen if 1 billion illegal immigrants planned to stay in Los Angeles or El Paso? Toronto is suffering from a Malthusian rat experiment where they import millions of random people into a city of 10km NS and 30km EW.
I am not denying the higher cost of living in Canada, but socialism and freeloaders would lead to a higher cost of living. The 15% GST/sales tax is a robbery. There is more. Higher hourly wages in Canada keeps most things closed. Just go to food courts in Toronto Eaton center and you will see most things are closed at 10:30 AM. Most shops are open only between 11 AM and maybe 8 PM and then everything closes. Trump is a problem. The problem is an “intellectual” problem because he does not separate between illegal and legal immigration. He just uses the word immigration and lumps everything in one category. That is stealthy racism because he is hurting legal immigration. Guess what? We are going to fight hard to remove this bastard. The new Congress comes in on Jan 3 and Trump will be gone in 6 months. Either he will be impeached or indicted. And don’t let anyone fool you by saying that it depends on how new members of Congress interpret Trump’s actions. Trump impeachment is not an option but it is a mandate. If Democrats do not do it then they will be considered weak. In America, weakness means death. Either democrats project strength or it is all over for them.
Trump told a few congresswomen to go back to where they came from, and referred to those countries in the most dissing way.
Trump is stoking the flames of racism, which gets emulated in Canada.
Law-abiding and enterprising immigrants from India will be shocked that they will be hassled on the streets of Toronto and lumped together with Islamic extremists, and told that they are refugees or Trudeau brought them to Canada under a Soros conspiracy to flood Canada with illegals. It’s appalling.
What many of you middle and upper class professionals from “third world countries” don’t decipher is that many of you will be working under lower class immigrants who will boss you around and give homage to the Canadian-born oppressor.
Jamaicans used to say: Why would I leave a crime-ridden parish of Jamaica to live in a crime-ridden Canadian ghetto?!
Canada depends on 80% of exports to the USA, and right now Trump doesn’t like Canada for subsidizing Canadian industries as it’s unfair for the USA.
Once Trump tells Canada to pound sand (take a hike), the economy of cities like Toronto will collapse. It will be worse than the 1990s recession, way worse.
America has enough talent, billion-dollar businesses and worldwide trade that if America collapses, the entire world goes down with it; this almost happened in 2008 when Wall St. suffered a recession.
The NHS in the UK doesn’t allow applications from international doctors to become licensed in the UK? Sounds new to me.
Canada is open for immigrants and refugees, but good luck finding a job, even a cleaner or trash collector job as they are unfairly competitive.
What used to rent for $1,000 back in 2013 now is listed as $1,500+ this year. A 50%+ increase of rent in 5 years, Unnatural given that the birth rates of Canada are low compared to other countries because of social engineering.
Security guard jobs in Canada require the applicant to clear exam, this statement gives true facts regarding certification and barrier created by Canadian government to reduce competition.
Many immigrants who pass these hurdles are working for minimum wage, while the higher paid security jobs go to Canadians.
Discrimination in Canada acts as an intellectual prejudice. The smarter you are, the more you are discriminated. In the USA, the more smarter you are, the likely you will be respected. Huge difference between Canada and USA.
Canada brings in millions of refugees, but have them living in the major cities, which jack up rental costs.
What used to be $1,500 for a two-bedroom apartment can’t even pay for a room in Toronto right now.
You could have never immigrated to the USA without a job. Health care in America is not free. Only refugees are an exception, but refugee admission policies in America are very strict. Canada and Australia with their liberal welfare schemes are home of trash from all over the world.
Australia is becoming wiser now they have hardened the rules of PR.you need an employer to sponsor you then only you will get a visa
Australia is same like canada where immigrants are accepted to do menial jobs and blue collar jobs,all white collar jobs are undertaken by white caucasians like canada.The only good thing is that blue collar jobs are paid well but so is the cost of living.Whats the point of immigrating from third world countries to these pseudo developed countries when u cant save anything and your entire salary goes into paying rent and taxes.only usa does the fair justice to immigrants and to some extent gulf countries,canada and australia are running 21st century East india company luring highly educated immigrants for menial jobs.
Trump is a smart man and one big strong guy who works for the welfare of common american citizens unlike obama and all deep state operatives who worked for big corporate and capitalist firms,putting common american citizen life in risk.But the media will potray trump as evil man as they have there own agenda,unlike pseudoliberal trudeau who potrays canada as welcoming country,but he is running a slavery camp where all third world citizens and refugees specially from syria are asked to do labour and menial jobs,trump is very clear regarding immigration policy,first fetch a job then only immigrate to USA.
Trump is a smart man. China is more angry with Canada than the USA.
Let the foreign investor gravy train come to a halt.
Only in Canada do they allow foreigners to come with millions of dollars cash to purchase condos, no questions asked, but if a Canadian, especially a single male, tries to withdraw his own paycheck, he is flagged for money offenses.
Downtown Toronto has all of the perks and most of the contracts to maintain streets and hospitals, but once you start venturing into the city suburbs like North York, Scarborogh and Etobicoke, one can see how poorly the city’s infrastructure is relative to major American and 1st world cities. Scarborough looks like a 3rd world country because the roads have pot holes and traffic lights regularly don’t work, even in the summer.
Even the transit quality of extra-boundary towns like Mississauga, Brampton, Vaughan and Markham surpass that of the Toronto Transit Commission. York Transit used PRESTO electronic payments for fares five years before Toronto is transitioning to Presto.
What amazed me was that Chinese cities like Shanghai have way exuberant quality of transit, healthcare, roads and public services compared to Toronto.
Montreal has collapsing roads and bridges, and jobs are very hard to find. That leaves the potential immigrant to choose between Toronto or Vancouver for jobs. Unlike the USA, Canada only has 4 or 5 major cities for jobs. The small towns and remote areas don’t even have DSL or Broadband internet!
Where has all the wealth of Canada been squandered to? Even oppressive regimes located in the Middle East have grants they give to students to live in their own apartments and houses, but Canadians have to pay 10-20X their annual salary to buy their own house. Shame on Canada.
usa and canada are in decline,the future belongs to india,china,vietnam and other emerging third world countries.China is leaps ahead of canada in every aspect,and much safer than the gun trottling america,usa has over 1 trillion debt from china which no media discusses just to mislead the world that america is a superpower,though usa infrastructure is much ahead than canada and one of the best ,but you can still see the newyork subway in dilapilated condition and many of the stations are not well maintained and even dont have air conditioner.
USA is never in decline. It has built a military for a reason and that is to contain other countries’ growth and prosperity. China has already sold a lot of US debt to boost its currency due to US sanctions. Russia did too. American economy is $20 trillion economy and growing. The vast amount of American debt is owned by Americans including me. And yes, we are proud of our guns too. It keeps us free. It also allows us to give guns to any rebellion in any country of any oppressive regime like Syria. People around the world may not like it but we believe that right to gun ownership is a god given right. How else you can confidently say that a person has right to life?
Most governments do not like their citizens to own arms because they are afraid that their job will become extremely difficult. We prefer our government to do difficult jobs. If you never solve difficult problems, you do not create prosperity. China created islands on South China Sea but it cannot protect these islands from US taking over. US regularly sends ships closer to the islands and China has to constantly perform military exercises to show its might. China’s military expenses are going to skyrocket and building these islands was the most expensive foolish decision China ever made.
In coming 10-20 years russia will be new superpower,only russian military have the ability to challenge usa and nato allies,Cold war ghost will surely haunt usa in future,meanwhile usa has its own set of problems like gun culture and heavy violence,drug abuse among teens and adults. I would prefer UK over U.S.A to work and live,but sadly uk has closed doors for immigrants.
Keep on spewing negativity. Russia’s credit rating is junk bond status and India is one notch above junk. China is somewhere in the middle. It is funny that people criticize US debt when it is the highest credit rating possible. There is something called NATO. Russia cannot be a superpower. It is smaller economy than India and if it messes with any NATO country it picks a war with entire alliance. Russia does not have credible second strike capability in the form of nuclear submarines. If NATO nukes Russia first then it is all over for Russia. You need second strike capability in form of nuclear submarines, long-range stealth bombers, foreign bases and an economy to fight all NATO countries together to be a superpower to challenge the US. The breakup of USSR reduces the size of Russia and targets that NATO needs to strike. Even Ukraine is sliced from Russian influence. America is keeping Russia busy in both Ukraine and Syria. Just like it is keeping China busy in South China Sea. America will always in the mild state of war with other dominant powers. This reminds those dominant countries where America stands and how much they could lose if they challenge America. This strategy actually reduces the risk of full fledge wars.
Canada will allow 3000000 immigrants till 2020 I feel shuddered what jobs will all these immigrants do
They will pay more for renting a haunted apartment located in a crime infested ghetto area of Toronto.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if anti-immigrant sentiment will become worse like how it is in Poland with foreign students mysteriously falling off buildings on the first day of their studies as a foreign stuent.
Will there be opportunities for a draftsman with 10 years experience? i am 35 years old, in my mid career. i would like to migrate with my wife who is a lecturer with 3 years’ experience, who is 28. is it worth to take risk? my job in the gulf has no guarantee. i am losing job now and then. the career is not going steady.
In Canada, it doesn’t matter how many years experience you have, or even if you’re Bill Gates or Einstein; all that they care is if you have “Canadian experience”.
You also should be wary of the education as your wife and daughters will become victim to Anglo-feminist brainwashing. They will be taught to hate all men except the male CEOs and elite who get off scot free with employment violations.
Also, if you plan to work in the trades and blue collar field, you will have to register with a union. But, since you are a newcomer and immigrant, unions will make life difficult for you to access the jobs and licenses to work, and you will be forced to spend over $50,000 in education at a college or university to gain some “Canadian experience” by studying and working the last semesters as an apprentice….but even then, many employers prefer to hire Canadian women for jobs because the country is feminist and they will give jobs to Canadian women over everyone else, even if those denied have more education and experience.
Indians are being murdered by racist whites in European countries, and y’all act polite to them, when they travel to your country of India?
Many Canadian migrants come from Poland, Germany, Netherlands, Russia, FSU blocs, and some of them bring their fascist and Neo-Nazi garbage to Canada.
Absolutely i have seen submissive and pathetic indians boot licking the whites and europeans, calling them sir sir in every minute conversation as if they owe us something. i have met many americans and white citizens who are dumb and average joe in real life, most of the shopkeepers in usa can’t calculate simple maths involving addition unlike india where most of the shopkeepers are good in accounts. We indians think that all the europeans and white race are more civilized and intelligent but the reality is just opposite of what we think, they are polite and civilized until indians and all brown-skinned people do menial and blue-collar jobs in there country, once we star to occupy important managerial positions they become highly insecure and racist. The entire foundation of these white nations is based on murder and genocide so i believe they are more uncivilized than indians.
You are a racist person yourself. Seems like you have an axe to grind. It is one thing to speak the truth but it is whole another thing when every post start reeking of your racist views.
i am telling the truth, i have no axe to grind. except the usa, every other country follows institutional racism, u can judge my views as racism as we are living in free world.
I have read most of your comments and have observed how your opinions seem to have gradually shifted.Hence, I have no doubt that you’re in fact a CANADIAN government shill pretending to be someone else! I have especially observed your determination to downplay the very real existence of racism in Canada and that for me was the evidence I needed to realize that you’re not who you’re trying to portray.SMH
An Indian man who drove a taxi once told me: I used to manage large infrastructure projects in Bombay, but why is infrastructure poor here in Toronto?
I don’t know much about America but the infrastructure and economy of Canada are dwindling and becoming 3rd world where the Top 5% become richer, the middle class shrinks and the poor become poorer.
TIP: Coming to Canada here with the minimum $20,000 is peanuts compared to the low-income cutoff for survival in Canada which is around $35,000/yr for a single person and at least $96,000/yr for a family of four.
Yes, the infrastructure in Canada is very poor. I live in the USA. Some of the things I see in Canada are plane horrible. Many bridges have iron rods, which are supposed to be inside cement slabs, are visible. Most roads do not have much of a shoulder. Ramps do not provide much length so that traffic can merge smoothly. A few years ago, a bridge in Quebec province just collapsed. Canada is barely surviving. Recently, US is trying to extradite some Chinese Heuwei company CFO for violating Iranian sanctions. She got PR in Canada by throwing money and owns properties in Vancouver area. Canada has milked money from Chinese growth story. That gravy train is losing speed now.
White peoples success come from killing and pillaging other races.
More than a month after Manpreet Kanhaiya died after falling from his fourth-floor apartment in Poland, his family in Brampton, Ont. is still trying to figure out what happened.
Kanhaiya, 22, had just moved to central Poland to study at the Medical University of Lodz at the end of September.
There are millions of unanswered questions.
– Jaswinder Kanhaiya, Manpreet’s father
Police are investigating, but Kanhaiya’s family said they’ve been told it could take between three months and a year before authorities know what happened. Jaswinder Kanhaiya, Manpreet’s father, said he wants to rule out the possibility of foul play.
“These things will come only into light when there’s an investigation,” he told CBC News.
“There are millions of unanswered questions.”
Jaswinder Kanhaiya dismissed the idea that his son’s death could have been a suicide, saying Manpreet was in good spirits and eager to begin his studies when he last saw him.
“He was a perfect student, he was a perfect son and a perfect brother.”
Kanhaiya’s parents travelled with him to help him get settled on Sept. 28 before heading back to Toronto via London. After they didn’t hear from Manpreet for two days they contacted the landlord at the off-campus private dorm where he was staying, who told them he had accidentally fallen from his fourth-floor window in the early morning hours of Sept. 29.
Kanhaiya was hospitalized but died of his injuries on Sept. 30.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-student-manpreet-kanhaiya-s-death-in-poland-a-mystery-1.3302681
u have to spend 25k to clear all the exams and register as a dentist in canada,after that u have to settle in rural areas as Toronto since Vancouver is saturated with dentists, there are racial barrier in medical and dental profession in western nations which no one want to discuss such as the patient might refuse to be treated by brown dentist. Though u will earn approx 40-50k in starting,most of your income will go in paying rent and taxes,i would say garner 2 more years of experience and apply for endodontist jobs in gulf where u could easily earn 40L per annum(approx. 65K dollars) which is tax free income and much better than slogging in cold desert like hailfax and novia scotia,where u will find lot of rednecks
Woman demands ‘white doctor’ for son at walk-in clinic – YouTube
Video shows woman making several demands for doctor who ‘doesn’t have brown teeth’ and ‘speaks English’
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Fast food worker jobs are competitve in Canada.
So u advise me to practice in India?I have seen many Indian dentists preparing for exams hoping that they will earn 80k once they clear all the exams
I do not get why people in India think that they can just walk into Canada/US and there will be a job waiting for them. In the 1960s, manufacturing paid really well and you had unions. So a lot of people worked for manufacturing companies and got fat pensions. During those times, no one would go to college. You graduate out of high school, get a blue collar job and then retire with a pension. Only during those days, North America welcomed immigrants for professor and doctor jobs because no one wanted to pursue higher education. Traditional manufacturing has dwindled since then and people have started flooding into white collar jobs. What you have now is Canadian getting higher education and finding it harder to get jobs. The result is a construction of barriers for foreign competition. You may call it institutional discrimination (not racism because discrimination is not based on race). This discrimination happens because voters want it to protect their interests. Thus, you get regulation and run around in form of certifications, Canadian experience, etc.
I am not sure what do you mean by Indian dentists preparing for exams. If you are getting your degree to enter Canada then that may be OK. You just have to drive trucks, clean toilets, work as a cashier, etc. If you want to practice dentistry then you become a threat to locals and they will pull a rule book on you to make it impossible to practice. You have a professional practicing dentist lobby that will create barriers to protect their interests. These guys donate money to politicians to get legislation passed to curb foreign competition, preserve opportunities, and boost wages. The Canadian government will not tell you this because it wants the money people bring into Canada, and by the time you understand the game, it is too late. If you have the right expectations then you are fine. If you think that you are going to come it and start earning high wages then those days are long gone. Times have changed.
On a personal note, I do not think 80K is good money in city like Toronto. If you plan of living alone then you will barely scrap a living. Rural areas might be OK. If you have to live on hourly wages then Canada is a hellish place to live.
Even India is a hellish place to live as per population,just that u have enough no of jobs here unlike canada
White people are doing fine in SE Asia like Thailand, how are you sure that you will get a job in your field here in Canada?
Many immigrants will learn the hard way when they move to Canada and have to beg on the street or end up homeless and freezing at -40C frozen weather.
You should not think too much about race. Instead, you should think about market dynamics and cultural assimilation. If a Canadian dentist lands up in India, do you think he is ready to practice on day 1? These professions are highly regulated. Right from filling materials to hygiene practices are different in Canada. How you treat our staff and patient is different as well. The legal environment is different. If you make one cultural mistake, patients will blame the Canadian government to allow someone with a foreign degree to practice in Canada. There are a lot of parameters that drive employment.
Of course, you can ignore all of that and call it racism. I have a better word for it– Competition. You will face a 10 fold uphill task to find employment in Canada. I would refrain from all professions that require direct human contact. Several years ago, this was not the case. Doctors were in short supply and people were willing to overlook cultural assimilation aspects. Today, everyone is trying to find faults in others to get them fired. If you come to Canada to make money then you will be into saving money and start cutting corners. This is where you will be penalized.
One more thing. Employment is a two-fold problem. The first is finding the job and second is retaining it. No one talks about the second aspect. Retaining the job is even more difficult. What is the point where you find a job and only survive a few months before you get unemployed?
Mr parag is it true that even an Indian dentist pass all the Canadian equivalency exams,he might not get an appropriate job or the employer gives a white dentist more preference than brown dentist
Yes it is true. There is a widespread practice that many immigrants pass the exam say even after 3 tries (after money is taken out repeatedly), they will go to the trainee stage, but no one will take them to be trained even up north. This is done so that they dont complete the final step to be job worthy. Most people are in this loop.
They talk about office culture and deem foreigner not to be culturally fit. Its not just Indians but every non white. I myself lived in Canada more than 15 years. after working and brought up in the culture, i went a few countries to work. Then i did my MS from Seattle. They are not least bit bothered to recognize it even though University of washing was top in the world in 2010 for applied mathematics which i did.
My mom did certifications from Cambridge and same fate. I have many friends who are in this dilemma. They think foreigners or Canadians should not do foreign degrees or work outside for anytime period of time cause Canadian degree/experience is the best. Its perfect blend of arrogance with ignorance at its best.
* Sorry i meant University of Washington
You’ve answered your own question, and it would be sad that you, being a doctor in India, would have to sweep floors at 3am or scrub toilets for a wage that doesn’t cover renting in some dangerous ghetto of Toronto or Montreal.
And police here don’t help you or assist you when you are a victim of crime; only white women have the privilege of the police being at their side.
There are over 200 countries and territories other than Canada and India. Pick wisely.
You think India is overpopulated? Try London, UK or Toronto, Canada.
I would say Canada is no better than India, too much cold, most of the Canada is a frozen desert, plus imagine u have to live 6 months inside your house just because of extreme cold and dingy weather, high cost of living and extremely high taxes. But we get good quality of life which u can’t imagine even u earn lakhs in India, population explosion and poor urban planning will make India a hellish place to live in future.
In all fairness, India is a dump. It is not a country that is livable by any means. The quality of air is so bad that you are a dead man walking. Indians themselves are to be blamed. I could never understand the Indian culture of getting married and popping kids. India’s population has made India unlivable country. Over the years, resources are mined, the environment is screwed, water tables are lowered and contaminated, and rivers polluted. Who in the right mind would bring kids to a miserable country? Yet, it is what people do. When you are born, you realize that you are born in a country of no hope. The very air you breath is working against your success. The lack of oxygen in the air puts pressure on your heart and mind. This is the misery everyone in India is living under. Both rich and poor are subject to this invisible misery.
So it is not surprising that Indians will hang on to any hope to escape the misery. This is where “dream sellers” come in. They sell Indians dreams of a wealthy career in Canada in exchange for money. India does other things to you as well. It boosts your ego. When you live in a country where the majority of people have poor skills and education, then having some skills make you feel that you are a King. The thing is that Western nations are full of educated citizens. If you come with an attitude that you are bringing in a lot of skills then you will be disappointed. The vast majority of Indians do not have any superior education. Most have undergraduate degrees. To make matters worse, India makes you learn multiple languages. The problem is that you do not master English. Regardless of what people claim, Indians do not speak and write in good English. Most are average and average does not mean exceptional.
Indians who come to America either come to the US with H1 visa or come for education. The H1 visa is a non-immigrant visa and there is a 30 year wait time to get US permanent residency from H1 Visa. If you lose a job while you are on H1 visa then you are kicked out. Even after US education, you can only get a job on H1 visa. Both student and H1 visa are non-immigrant visas. The only easy way to get a PR in USA (from Indian passport ) is through marriage to US citizen. This is the approach Priyanka Chopra is adopting. There is a fast track PR processing option, but it is really reserved for Olympic athletes or Nobel prize winners. A few years ago, this option used to be a loophole abused by Indian IT organizations but this appears to be closed now. America grants its PR using country quotas and the 30 years wait time for Indians is only because of the Indian population. Too many Indians are in the queue. Canada does not appear to have country quotas so Indians go to Canada.
People who migrate to Canada, as I understand it, are people who accumulate money by working in the middle east. They go back home to a dump and want to use their riches to come to the western world. The US is never an option for these guys as they only have undergraduate degrees, so Canada is the place they go to. Canada has created this scam to separate the money from these fortune seekers. It sells them dreams and then bankrupts them. After that these immigrants either clean toilets and brag that their life is good in Canada; or go back to horrible and ever decaying India.
If you call that sad then it is sad, but most people in the world have it worse. It is only sad if you come to Canada with a huge expectation like you would become a CEO. To some extent, this website sells you a lot of hopes by posting articles like how someone from Jalandhar became a multi-millionaire in 4 weeks. These stories are extremely rare. If you come to Canada with an expectation that you are coming here to earn hourly wages then you will not be disappointed.
Exactly, Canada is only good for those who are starving and eating dirt in their home countries, or living in places where they get their hands and heads cut off for offending some hypocritical religious Monarchy of zealots.
india is a dump but still have more opportunities than cold and icy canada, where one will work like dog for his entire life and even then will die with no savings,except pollution and clean water, there is nothing to boast about canada. The biggest threat to immigrants apart from extreme cold is rampant feminism which could be deadly for an indian immigrant, even india is infiltrated by these toxic feminism from organizations funded by the west.
Mr parag it’s sad to see Indian engineers working as cashiers and janitors in canadan and other Western nations,are they dissillusioned with the overpopulation and beauracracy present in there native country or they think life in Western country Is living in a heavens paradise
Mr AL Waz, Canada is all blue collar jobs. Many Canadians don’t accept that immigrants can be so much talented and skillful,they will erect barriers for any immigrant who appears to he competitive, better try for US.
You cannot try the US.. There are too many programmers trying to migrate to the west thinking that they can get high paying jobs. Programming is taught in high schools in the US and some students take advanced placement classes. America does not want programmers anymore. Trump is proposing a minimum wage of $110,000 for any foreigner attempting to enter job market in the US. You cannot come to the US unless you have a job which pays atleast $110,000 or more. The visa procedures are very restrictive in the US. If you are fired from the job then your visa is voided and then you have to go back home. Immigrating to the US is very difficult.
Why does Canada trick me into coming here? The PR Consultant said that my IT credentials will be accepted for job here, but five months living for Toronto and my IT skills are not accepted for job. i was refused for an entry level IT job such as novice programmer.
I am certified A+ module, C+language, Python and Java programmer with 10 years teaching computer science students.
My job mentor at Woodgreen Employment services exclaimed that I should apply for low service jobs like Tim Hortons cashier, Mc Donalds staff member and Walmart night-shift janitor.
I am THIRTY-SEVEN years of age!!!!! Why would I work as minmum wage cashier?
I also notice that having eye contact with Canadian females here is not advised as they have a feminist brain and are taught that all men are not to be friendly with or talk with.
Canada has fooled me into their bottomless pit of hell!!!!!
The useless paper-pusher and government bureaucrat tells you to do dead-end jobs, despite you having more education and experience!
Oh Canada!
Canada legalized pedophilia for women:
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2018/10/25/court-says-pedophilia-does-not-apply-because-perpetrator-is-a-woman.html
My colleague who got registered as a dentist in Australia recently told that he got a job in rural area as most of the urban areas are saturated with dentists. The same scenario applies to Canada and white patients prefer white dentists/Anglo Christians for there treatment, and apart from Vancouver and Toronto no city is worth living.
Ashu, you’re comparing apples to oranges there. Your colleague was approved in Australia, which is geographically favourable for those living in Asia.
Australia is thousands of miles away from Canada, and the climate is also way seasonally favourable than Canada’s 6 months of extreme cold, and 6 months of humidity.
Canada is not the same as USA, just like Australia is not the same as USA, Canada. Every country has their own rules and regulations. Many immigrants falsely believe that UK is the same as Canada, only to realize that UK pays for dental healthcare while Canada doesn’t with very limited exceptions, using one example.
Until you locate a colleague who has been approved to work as a Medical Doctor in Canada within 1 year of landing, I hate to say it but you’d be sweeping floors, cleaning toilets and delivering pizzas living in Toronto or Vancouver.
Not just employment is extremely tough, the lifestyle is garbage.It’s not vibrant and all u do is work and work to paid or bought overvalue product, it’s not worth to come to hell.
But again Delhi, Mumbai are polluted as hell, but more vibrant than cold and robotic life in Canada.
You would be a medical doctor at those overpopulated cities, but you would likely clean toilets for low wages in overpopulated Canadian cities such as Toronto. Don’t be fooled by the 2.8 million stat. Those who live at the suburbs work Toronto, so likely 6 or 7 million people traverse Toronto daily for work, school and commute.
I heard Nova Scotia and Quebec are very racist and intolerant to Indians and any non white-immigrant can’t survive der.
I think people quickly jump to racism as a conclusion. There is some problem with Indian culture as well that needs to be considered. People from India do not tip well or adjust quickly to the culture. If you go to any new country you must leave the culture of your old country behind. You face a mammoth problem of unlearning old culture and learning new culture that you do not necessarily know or even understand.
Immigration policies of Canada allow people to immigrate without securing a job. This is the curx of the problem. You bring your money thinking that there is a well paid job lined for you because Canada lies to get you here. Once here, you have no job. You have to sit and spend your money and then you have two choices left– clean toilets or return home without money and start all over.
Losers in Nova Scotia look at you as another freeloader who is going to drain the system. This means less money for them and perhaps government cutting thier benefits. If you call that racism then that is what it is. However, it is simple economics. In fact, to keep these losers happy, government is bringing in immigrants with all the money. Government wants to take all the money from immigrants and give it to freeloaders in Canada and hopes that immigrants will go back home. No wonder immigrants who bring in money are upset with Canada. Canada then lectures them that they have a better life and they can now clean toilets to survive in Canada. It does not end there either, your kids will likely suffer as well and take drugs or worse (become drug dealer themselves).
I’ve heard that Canada actually tells aspiring immigrants to sell everything that they have to bring in as much cash as they can into Canada. Thus, immigrants are stuck in Canada because they aren’t able to pay air fare to move back. It’s a scam.
If the Average Joe were to tell someone a false advertisement, he would be in jail for fraud, but not the Canadian bureaucrats. They even have the audacity to publish pro-Canadian articles regarding immigrants who migrated to Canada since the 1960s-1970s and measuring their “successes” as the present state of affairs.
Back in the 1970s, Canada wasn’t overpopulated in the cities, nor was there forced policies to discriminate against anyone using feminism reverse discrimination against males.
Now, a man can’t work as a factory employee because the factory would have to hire a woman instead, and the white women get all of the Supervisory roles, controlling all of the serfs like slave masters.
Canada is an entirely different country than the 1970s. Immigrants used to have their communities to rely on, but that is all infiltrated by the Canadian government and social justice movements.
And yes, it’s true that one’s children will end up a drug addict, a prostitute or a criminal because of the peer pressure and feminist culture that promotes females to act loosely.
The biggest racism is not cursing or cussing someone on the basis of race or religion. The biggest racism is denial of opportunities based on race and religion. That’s what Canada practices.If they value the credentials of immigrants, then racism is not an issue. Racism is a relative term – some actually face it and some actually amplify it. Even USA has racism, but USA values the credentials of potential immigrants.
It is somewhat hypocritical how quickly Indians call out any behavior racism when India is the most racist country out there and Indians living in India do not say anything about it. The day a Tamil guy becomes CM of Punjab then I would consider India has overcome discrimination. That day will never come in 100 years. This is how racist India is.
Now coming to denial of opportunities, that is a matter of opinion and not reality. In a person’s mind his credentials may be equal to Canadian credentials, but seriously, there is more to a job than just degrees. Western organizations are rampant with jealous people. A manager may hire someone from India only to see two well-qualified people leave the organization because they might think that the organization does not value them and watering things down. There are fundamental cultural and communication issues with immigrants. Even if someone speaks English, it is not necessary that you can always get the nuances of Canadian English in the workplace. Work methods and habits are also different for immigrants. Many immigrants bring packed food from home and eat in their office to stink up the workplace. The point is that just because you think you deserve a job does not mean the organization sees it that way. A manager has to consider a lot of variables including competing candidates. Racism via denial of opportunities needs to be provable before you claim it.
What is inappropriate about Canadian workplace is quotas. More specifically, female worker quotas. That is a provable entitlement and it is OK to criticize it. If someone tells you on your face that you will not get a job because of a race then that is racism as well. If you get a letter mentioning race as a reason for denial then that is racism as well. However, if no such thing happens then anyone calling racism is just an opinion. The person should keep that opinion to himself/herself. These things happen other way around too. Many Indian businesses hire Indians. Are they practicing racism too? You have to be very careful about alleging racism.
Canada practices intellectual racism, and the biggest joke is that Canadians are polite to immigrants.
Canadian experience, are u a Muslim? Even UAE has racism towards non-Arabs, but still they value your credentials. chances of assimilation for Indians are more as compared to Christian white countries.
No, I’m an atheist, don’t have any knowledge of religion.
So safe bet is going to Abu Dhabi or Dubai and practice for 4 years and then come back,at least they value ur credentials.
If Muslim countries accept Hindus and respect them, that’s a plus! You wouldn’t have your education and credentials respected in Canada. Intellectual racism is rampant in Canada. Just ask the Canadian taxi drivers who were engineers, CEOs, doctors and lawyers back home.
My comment hasn’t been approved as yet, but UAE is more beneficial for your career than working as janitor in Canada.
Mr Parag, u are absolutely right,I have seen hoardes of Gujarati and Punjabi people immigrating to kanneda for no reason. Many do odd jobs to survive.If earning 30k dollars per annum and living in some shitty house in urban cities like Toronto is success, then better be in your country.
30k is poverty wage in Canada. You would need at least $100k+ income so that you can qualify for a mortgage in Canada.
Housing and rental prices ave skyrocketed in Toronto because of the increase quotas on immigration and refugees. Homeless Canadians have to sleep on the street while hotels and shelters are fully booked because the government has packed too many migrants into one small part of Ontario.
There are at least 10 million people living in an urban center 1/10th the size of Sri Lanka. To use actual comparisons, the current population of the Greater Toronto Area would make Sri Lanka’s population to at least 100 million.
But India is also battering with issues like casteism and regionalism,the only advantage living in India is cheap food and rent,as a middle class u can live a good life in India though corruption and pollution are a major issue,but again Canada is worse in terms of living as a middle class life
Canada has a very small population compared to it’s size and population distribution, but food, housing, energy and gas prices are way expensive though Canada is an oil-producing country and exports energy to the USA.
America has almost 320 million people, but food is 50% cheaper in most of the country and even cheaper in the cities of the western part (California).
Can a dentist earn 100k dollars?I heard Toronto and Vancouver are pretty Saturated with dentists
Only Dentists who have decades of experience will net 100k+ after expenditures and taxes, but before you question the prospects of earning a salary of doctors, who are high-earners, will you ever get a chance to even work as a dental assistant before getting your medical license, or will you be condemned with the thousands of other failed immigrants sweeping floors for low wages and living in cockroach apartments?
Canada in 2018 is not Canada of the 1980s where families would struggle for a few years then get back on their feet.
I have seen pathetic Indians who can do any type of jobs in Canada and Western counties. I met one mallu Christian who worked in Tim Hortons in Canada for three years despite being an electric engineer, he told me shamelessly that toilet cleaning and labour jobs in any Western country is better than white collar jobs in India. Due to this mentality, we were slaves for 200 years to the britishers.
A lot of Indians, who do not make it in the USA, go to Canada also say similar things like Canada is much better than USA. They mention things like availability of guns in US and crime, etc. People always try to justify their decisions. What really matters is where you want to live when you have a choice? I can live in US, Canada, India and even Europe. My preference will always be USA. Most other governments are way oppressive and rob their rich people.
I think this assumption is just not true about slavery. That is a very bizzare outlook. I don’t think you have lived in the West. There are many cases how one can see the west better or worse. Some people will like competition and some won’t. Is that something wrong?
It’s just that you as indian are in an environment where people are always pushing. It’s not like that say in New Zealand. So then why do you think that they should invest their resources into more hospitals or infrastructure if they don’t need? if their basic needs are fulfilled and working in a coffee shop is just fine for a good life and he/she is satisfied, how can you say it is a negative attitude that lead existence or prolonging of slavery??
My point is that is Canada so great that people leave there managerial jobs in there home country to work in supermarket and coffee shops? This can only happen when Canada is indeed a heaven for all Asian country citizens, is it?
They were lied to regarding job prospects in Canada.
Yes that only true thing. The Canadian govt should be sued as this lie is pure scamming.
Sixteen year old high school students work part-time in coffee shops, and then when they reach 17 or 18, they become Manager. How can you say with a straight face that doing work that teenagers do for pocket change is a livable lifestyle in an overpopulated city like Toronto or Vancouver? Are you out of your mind?!
No I am not out of my mind. What I am trying to say is that there is no need to over complicate things if there is no need. We know that Canada doesn’t want to achieve highly sophisticated industries like NASA, microsoft, world class leading institutes or such others. The level of life quality without these is good enough and although many people don’t agree, many others do agree.
It is only in our minds that we think we must have jobs in the latest frontier. The idea of high end jobs is that they generate something of value in the absence of resource in a country. Canada already has its resource. So it doesn’t really have to go down the advanced technological industries path.
This is exactly the problem. What is wrong with odd jobs? Are they not needed in a society? It is seen as pocket change because we think of it like that. If a bus driver or security officer can live for 40 years in canada satisfied in their own way, then it is not a pocket change job but a career and we have no right to say that they are wrong. It is us who are wrong for trying to change them with what we think of as life or career.
Bottom line, despite right or wrong, Canada is far ahead in almost all aspects compared to our overpopulated countries.
This is exactly what the problem is with Canada. There are too many low ambition refugees who think that Canada is heaven. Well, it might be a heaven for them. However, for most educated people, they get an education for a reason. The first reason is to stay away from a society full of idiots. There is everything wrong with low paying odd jobs. First, you do not contribute towards higher taxes, and second, you do not earn enough and depend on the state for benefits such as health care. Who pays to run the country? Rich people. To fund a lifestyle of freeloaders, Canadian government creates scams like immigration.
For the vast majority of people who want to earn higher wages, they really are the true patriots. They want to earn more and pay more in taxes. Unfortunately, Canada is an uncompetitive country to compete at higher level jobs that pay well and wants educated people. These high skill people almost certainly leave for the USA where they earn more and keep more of what they earn. The result is that more and more of freeloaders are left in Canada. The government has to resort to immigration lies to get money into Canada and then tells them if they do not like to live here then leave Canada. Either way, Canada does not have a bright future unless it creates high paying jobs. As population ages, the entitlements budget will keep increasing and tax revenue will keep decreasing. The government will start cutting benefits because it did not create a competitive environment. Get out of this mess while you still can. The only way Canadian can be happy is by constantly saying they are happy with low paying jobs. There is the truth and then there is a truth that you create by repeating a lie.
Canada thrives on mediocrity while depending on America to do trade.
Actually, in uber-leftist cities like Toronto, if someone attempts to advance in the workplace, a feminist co-worker just has to make a false
accusation of harassment or spread toxic rumours, and there goes the career.
It seems that the #metoo movement in the USA have been inspired by the feminist movement in Canada to damage innocent men’s reputations over false accusations.
Well, there is a tid bit of balance in America. These #MeToo guys tried to pull crap over Justice Kavanaugh’s nomination and no one listened to them. They were utterly defeated and now they have a Supreme Court Justice that knows how bad feminism is. For next 20+ years, feminism will be moderate in the US. I am OK with equality but special preferences based on race and gender is a problem and everyone should fight against it.
Parag, many Indians I know are respectable and moderate, but the whites in Canada have generalized all men from India as buffoons and assume that every brown skinned man is an “incel”, which is a very serious accusation as it is liable for slander.
Feminism is not for equality as if it were for equality you wouldn’t see thousands of racialized female immigrants with doctorate degrees working in factories, while the Caucasian Canadian-born woman gets promoted to upper level Management at age 22 after completing her degree in some mudane field, like gender studies or sociology or liberal arts.
Canadian feminism has “empowered” mostly white women while many immigrant women who adopted the feminist attitudes have become single, their children despise them, and they will most likely be working to their 70s or 80s and they have no retirement savings.
I am not repeating any lie. You seem to not get the point. There are two sides to the coin. There is no right or wrong.
If you don’t like it, you may go to your USA. You probably didn’t qualify there. Now you are in canada whining.
The rich people don’t run society. That is the pretense of capitalism where the rich are so rich that they start to penetrate the political society. That is clear inherent conflict of interest. In that scenario, socialist countries like Canada is better because no one gets too rich and everyone pays their fair share.
Societies have existed for millennium without the pretense that rich people are needed to run the country. Life has gone and will go without it. If you don’t like, go to some other country that supports your way.
Now maybe you will say “give me back the money the canadian govt took from me”. The answer is do something worthwhile even as a receptionist, make your money and leave. Honestly Canada will do fine for the next hundreds of years unlike the US which is being broken and battered by every country.
As for Canadian experience, he or she (probably he) is seriously caught up with white feminism/LGBT cycle. I don’t know what the problem is but he should leave if the experience isn’t his favour.
Yes I agree. I know it’s very tough, going abroad is always gamble,u can live a life of labourer in Western country if u not succeed, but again India has so many problems like overpopulation, massive corruption and crime, specially in Delhi. But I know the West has different set of problems like racism, very high cost of living and nepotism.
You’re a Dentist in India and probably upper class! Why would you come to Canada to work as a cleaner or fast food worker for pennies?
I have seen many Punjabi and Gujarti families with well–o do life in India working as cashier and supermarket jobs in Canada, majority of punjabis and gujjus can go to any extent to survive in Canada, which is very shameful to see while they can easily live a good upper middle class life here in India by working equally hard as in Canada.
For the most part you are making assumptions that are simply not true. You are assuming that your dentist degree will allow you to start a practice in Canada. That is such a naive assumption. No one is going to let you start a practice. You will be required to prove that you understand Canadian culture and language beginning with taking an English test. Your degree needs to be validated and you need to get experience as an assistant to Canadian dentist. It will take years of hard work and low wages before you will be allowed to practice. This is assuming that you are lucky. Most likely you might end up being a truck or taxi driver. This is what everyone is talking about. Canada will advertise that it needs skilled people and HAVE people believe that they can just walk into the profession of their choosing. Once you come to Canada, Canada says we have only hourly wage jobs for you. No wonder people get disappointed.
Ok I know all these hurdles of Canada,is Australia better option for dentists?or it’s same hardcore racists like Canadians?
Slightly better but pretty much the same. The thing is these countries have different priorities and vision.
How long will it take you to be certified to operate your own dentist profession in Canada?
This is the first thing you should ask yourself….
Why would you waste almost ten years to start all over again when you are situated in one of the most populated continents of the world, (more clients, more people, more competition, free market) compared to Canada where the crooks who work as government agencies and immigration lawyers say “COME TO CANADA, WE NEED PROFESSIONALS” but only to find out that doctors, lawyers, accountants, psychologists, brokers and other professionals don’t like foreign competition and will do anything not only to erect barriers but also put a carrot on a stick to make one waste years of study, money and lost earnings to get a “canadian experience”, but it doesn’t matter because it’s hard for professionals in certain fields to work in Canada because of unions and racism.
There is also the stereotype that foreign medical doctors are less skilled than white doctors, which is intellectual racism. Unfortunately, if one isn’t “canadian” enough, they are condemned to working as cleaners, maids, janitors and non-unionized security guards.
Ashu, will you take the chance to migrate to canada knowing that you will most likely spend the first ten years of your new life in Canada sweeping floors and cleaning toilets for a wage that doesn’t pay for the overpriced rent in cities like Toronto?
I am planning to migrate to Canada but seeing all this I think I should terminate my plans as I am a dentist in India and it’s extremely tough for non white dentist to survive in Canada,as patients prefer white dentist over brown dentist that’s what I heard
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-immigration-skilled-workers-election-1.4833739
Abdul Waheed holds up a certificate he received after completing a seven-week course on how to improve his CV and write a cover letter. The trained chemist has two master’s degrees in science, both of which are recognized in Quebec, but he’s gone back to college in the hope of finding a job in his field. (CBC)
Bouzid earned his degree in France and has more than 30 years’ international experience, designing everything from houses to hotels.
But once in Canada, it took him three years to have his credentials recognized.
He finally got his permit to practise in June 2017 but still can’t land a job.
He’s only had one job interview — where he was told, at 56, he was too old.
“Without a doubt, our origins are behind this refusal,” said Chebbi.
My comment: Shame that white Canadians get accepted into high paid expat jobs in these same countries like UAE, Morocco, Saudi, Kuwait, India, etc, but migrants from these countries are discriminated against their backgrounds!
There’s an image of a FrenchESL teacher who looks more like a college student than a teacher who is likely teaching skilled professionals.
WARNING: If you don’t have an ethnic niche to fall back on, you will struggle financially, socially and mentally in Canada. Every white person in Canada is either a racist bigot or a left-wing LGBT supporter. BEWARE!!!!!!!!!
Hi, is it true most of Canadians are racists? I have seen many Indians praising them, hope that they are bluffing and living in fool’s paradise?
I would say Canada is a class society. Part of the reasons for this is that it admits too many refugees. As a result, most people consider immigrants belonging to lower economic class. Keep in mind that this mindset is omnipresent in the society all races included. Open door immigration policy for refugees, job quotas, feminism, and LGBQT activism puts economic principles on the back burner. Any immigrant coming to Canada for economic success may find these things as hurdles. Canada is more like let us all be miserable together. This works when you come from really horrible culture where your hands are chopped off if you steal or someone alleges that you have stolen.
Hindus and Sikhs are lumped together with Muslims when it comes to being targeted for hate crimes.
The racists don’t know the difference between someone who is a Hindu or Muslim, so they attack anyone who looks brown. Certain areas of Toronto are dangerous for non-whites as they will most likely be harassed, assaulted or stabbed, but police will not find the perp or lead to a conviction because racism is subtle in Canada.
Many have said that Faisal Hussain who targeted several Greek restaurants in a predominately Greek enclave was a victim of a hate crime and sought revenge using the street way.
Violence should never be the answer, but from what I’ve heard from the GTA, certain communities have transformed certain wards of Toronto into defacto nationalist states that are hostile to outsiders.
Places like Little Italy, Vaughan, Royal York, Bathurst and South Etobicoke have become hostile to immigrants and especially those of African, Middle Eastern and North African descent.
Toronto is becoming racist as the whites formed their own enclaves but enforce the same racism from their homelands.
So it doesn’t surprise me that a young Muslim man would resort to gun violence targeting only white Greeks while sparing a Sikh passerby.
Anyone who migrates to Canada should not bring their racism from their home countries, because it only gives young disenfranchised men a reason to use gun violence. We may never know what actually caused that young Muslim man to use gun violence, but someone from that community did cause the first punch.
It’s not easy to rent an apartment (if you call it that, roach and vermin pests are a problem in many of these units). Landlords are legally allowed to discriminate on the basis of gender. Renting rooms and basements are not covered under the Human Rights Code, and this allows landlords and men who prefer females over males as tenants. Canada is for the modern woman, not for men. One of my online friends stated that his female Jamaican friend quietly whispered to him how “Canada is a white woman’s country”.
Many of you men have to consider that like Saudi Arabia where men have the power, Canadian women have 10x the power and have well-armed police and a biased legal system which shows sympathy for gun smugglers and gangsters but hates fathers and boys who are law-abiding. Canada is a backwards country and you will understand why I tell you this. America is also leading that path as Obama legalized gay marriage.
Make up your mind! How can you have a Canadian PR and then choose for h1B when that’s a work visa for the States?!
The job market in the USA vs Canada are entirely different, and even Americans face a barrier when looking for equal work in Canada, especially in Toronto where social justice, feminism and “human rights” supersede qualifications and industry experience.
Canadian PR is only suitable for wealthy elites from China who use Canada as a stepping stone to the USA. If you’re planning to start your life from scratch, you will waste time searching for a janitor, taxi driver, cleaner or pizza delivery job in the femoccupied cities like Toronto or Montreal, before you even consider the time it takes for lawyers to find a H1B for you to work in the USA.
Focus on America.
Please can you advise how easy and possible it is for a software engineer having 5 years work experience coming on Canada PR card to move to USA on H1B visa ? Are there body shop firms which can take person on H1B visa to USA? Is there any advantage of Canada being neighbor of USA which can help a software engineer having relevant skill sets to move to USA legally on H1B visa? Regards Lisboa
USA does not work like Canada where you can get H1B visa before you come to the USA. H1B visa is obtained after you get a job with the US company and the US company sponsors it by advertising for the job and showing there are no candidates. If coming to US was so easy then Canada would not have an IT industry because everyone in Canada would love to come to the US.
H1B visas don’t exist in Canada, but they have foreign temporary workers who work as general labourers in dangerous occupations such as oil fields. Rarely does Canada provide lucrative careers for immigrants and foreigners without putting huge boundaries in front of their faces while blaming them for not having “Canadian work experience”. I’ve seen 21yo Canadian-born females working as unionized TTC bus drivers (high paying job) while a male immigrant with decades of experience in public transit is ignored for those jobs. Canada has different priorities than the USA.
He will also have to know connections to the Big 5 accounting/bank/investment firms because local grads in Canada are unable to find MBA jobs because of “lack of experience”. What I’ve noticed in cities like Toronto is that hiring managers would choose a pale female over an immigrant or male student for co-op placements at universities, and this leads to the vicious cycle of unemployment because one needs experience to get a job, but they also need a job to gain experience.
Females in Canada have it easier from age 16 and up because government policies force employers to hire them and if they don’t then it’s discrimination. Now before anyone says that I support discrimination where were they when millions of immigrants were denied jobs because of lack of “Canadian experience” and the bureaucrats suggested that immigrants work for free?
Forget it, in my opinion. It will be extremely tough for you. Your MBA doesn’t count for anything here. You will have to get local qualification for sure in order for you to be somewhere in life here. This means restarting your career here at the age of 30. IF you are working for global company then take a transfer here if they have operations in Canada and then apply for PR. Employers here only consider candidates with local qualifications and experience.
Hi,
I am in the middle of the process of applying for PR, (IELTS 8), and currently getting my documents verified by WES. I see most of the queries out here are about jobs in IT and/or different engineering fields and immigrating henceforth. What about jobs in advertising and brand marketing? I have got an MBA degree and around 6 years of experience in advertising & marketing in India. It’s just that I want to shift (30 years in the same country, definitely looking to move out now). I am also a Google & Facebook certified digital marketer. Does Canada have any opportunity in such fields (marketing, market research, advertising), especially for an immigrant from India? Is there any other skill I need to develop (other than learning French)? What’s the range of salary are we talking about here?
Please advise what is the likely salary for a software engineer having studied in India and worked in company like Infosys and Tcs for 4 years. Will be getting Canada PR soon. I presume there will be jobs in Canada for software engineers even if qualification is from India.
Depends on your age, but your kind of people do well in Canada. Moreover, TCS has a big presence in Canada.
It’s better you take a transfer if you are working for TCS and then apply for PR when you here. The whole process will be quick and you will not be struggling to find a job otherwise if you take PR and then come here you might have to struggle here.
Unfortunately, the latter route (PR then look for job) is what the bureaucrats want to happen so that he/she will have to struggle for general labour jobs and live in a cockroach and haunted apartment for the total price of C$1,500/month in the Toronto region.
You’re going to leave your home country as a Bank Manager or Professor living a middle or upper class life, but come to Canada working for temporary labor jobs and being bossed around by a 20-something Canadian female supervisor. if you dare offend her or make her feel unsafe, she will send armed cops in jackboots and military suits to beat the living daylights out of you while you still have to pay your overpriced rent in a slum of Toronto where victims of gun violence are living in fear because police only care about Canadian women more than the “undesirables” that right-wing governments have labelled us as immigrants.
Wealthy immigrants who earned their money (from what source and who knows where it came from) were the ones who voted for Doug Ford in the low-income areas while the poorer immigrants voted for NDP. Wealthy immigrants tend to bring their oppressive attitudes to Canada and it shows when they would rather vote for a far-right political party whose supporters dislike darker shades of people and merges the image of peaceful Hindus with Middle Eastern rebels in Syria, in order to commit hate crimes against immigrants.
I’m not from India but an immigrant too. Well I think the most problem is for your guys and not just for you. For all immigrants who decide to come here. That most of them shoot for big cities. You have much better chances in small villages and towns to find jobs, way cheaper costs for housing and if you go north at least here in Alberta you get from some companies your college full paid while you working at the same time at the paid job and additionally an extra amount paid each month for living at north and not just from the government. I immigrated in New Brunswick and lived in a very small city. Even there it was easy to survive. Yes you wouldn’t make much money but you also don’t need much for your expenses. To rent a nice 4 bedroom house with garage, garden and everything included cost you around 600 – 800 dollars there. Here in northern Alberta we bought a nice 3 bedroom house for under 80.000 dollar. But my husband and I combined make her 160.000 a year and compared to BC healthcare doesn’t cost you here anything as well not in New Brunswick. You guy’s go for areas with a lot of population and brings you bad experiences. Canada is in my experience a very good country. Yeah our government currently sucks but after beeing her for 10 years I love it. I never had so less stress as here. Everything is calm and people have time and are friendly.
Oh another thing. If you come to a country and be such arrogant and believe you are so much better as the people who live there because of your education than you might should pack up and go home. Nobody want to get insulted like this. You should put down your expectations and just live and enjoy the ride.
Maybe many of the “Indian” immigrants don’t seek to live in redneck, white, rural Canadian cities because they don’t wish to become victims of racist violence, xenophobia and other attacks because of the colour of their skin? Being a white immigrant from South Africa, Russia or Mainland Europe is different than a non-white immigrant from Asia minor, Middle East or Africa.
Unfortunately white women have so much privileges in Canada that they forget that immigrants become easier targets for racism in smaller cities where uneducated racists live and thrive.
If you have to live in an isolated place that is frozen more than half of the year, then what’s the point of coming to Canada? As I said before also, you should only immigrate to Canada if your country has some serious issue like civil war in Syria or some serious threat to your life in your current country. Otherwise, it’s worthless coming to Canada. You will be basically starting your career from scratch. Imagine this you are 45 years old with let’s say 22-year experience in your field and if you extremely lucky then you will get a job in your field within the first year. BUT you will be working in the same level as fresh graduates who are 22 years old (Same age as # of years of experience you have in your field). And this is a scenario if you are extremely lucky otherwise for the rest of your life you are working at a gas station or Mcdonald’s as a cashier. SO DO YOU REALLY WANT TO COME TO CANADA?
Late Teenage (17, 18, 19) and early 20 immigrants waste their entire 20s studying only to be unemployed or working for low wage jobs in their 30s and 40s. The Canadian economy benefits those who are born, raised and live under families that lived in Canada since the 1700s (mainly those of British and European descent). Canada wasn’t that great either when the droves of West Indian and African immigrants started off working in menial jobs in the 1970s, and to this day, a majority and many are still at their dead-end jobs despite chants of women empowerment and racial equality.
You can only imagine how hard it will be for current newcomers who are leaving their emerging economies to live in slums in Toronto and fighting to work for low wages for survival because Canadians are not as cohesive as third world countries.
Canada has gone to the dogs that I’ve seen personally during the heat waves in Toronto how homeless men are dying of dehydration, but no one give a rat’s nest to save his life, but the social interest groups are walking and riding bikes in the nude and police, EMS and watchmen are there to protect their lives and dignity.
NIcky what you say would be alright if you are a high school graduate. India is a different country from many other countries including European countries. Canada really is a step down for Indians because of monarchy. I do not consider vast majority of European countries, including UK, as really free countries. They have institutional racism that European think is OK. Indians are more like Americans and I think America is the only country Indians would feel happy to live. Part of the frustration may be that Indians assume that Canada or Western Europe is like America, which it is not. I am an Indian-American and I can tell you this lumping of Western world into one category is also a problem. American culture stands alone. Canada and European cultures are way too hypocritical and hierarchical to any Indian liking. India is a non-monarchy democracy and growing economy. It is also a young country with an evolving culture. There are many things Indians would see and think that tradeoffs are not worth it. The biggest frustration of all is Canada lies to bring these guys here. If Canada is so great then let it refund the money and you will realize all these complaining Indians would go back in a flash. While most people criticize the posters here when they themselves are subsidized (taxes and benefits) by the money these immigrants bring in.
Canada is such a garbage country. I wished I had never come to this hell. It has been 10 months since I applied for citizenship and no response yet. And now my PR card has also expired and will have to apply for it as well, this means more cost and wastage of time.
Just waiting for my citizenship so I can get the F**K out of this S**T hole and hopefully never have to come back again 🙂
If Canada is causing you so many problems, why are you here waiting to take citizenship?? ooo it’s a one-way stream where you just want to take all the good stuff..isn’t it? People come for different reasons. Canada has good life. Expand your mind on what life is. No one knows the complete answer but it’s not all about intellectual competition.
Before coming here plan was to settle here but after living in this s**thole for 4 years I just want to leave ASAP. And it’s called getting some return out of your FAILED investment. There is nothing nice can say about Canada!
Canada has a garbage life. People are racist and arrogant including cops. They will not do anything or support the other party if they are WHITE.
White women are allowed to walk totally nude in public in Canada, or (ONTARIO), but if she complains against a brown or black man for no reason other than she is racist and seeks to cause tensions, the cops will have to arrest the brown or black man. Feminism is a tool of white supremacy and everyone who lives in India, etc should dismiss those Canadian feminist ideas out of the country before it becomes a neo-British feminist colony.
How much is the Canadian government paying to troll websites, or what agreement do money launderers have in Canada to launder their ill gotten money in Canada while being fooled by Canadian women who are flies to money like flies to horse manure.
Is der any scope of indian dentist? I am 32 years of age
i came to canada to study at same time as author -May 2009. It was an ok experience, but looking back, I probably would not want to live in Canada!
The winter that gets me, the lack of social cohesion – especially in Toronto, the prices, the ugly architecture! Toronto is really full of immigrants and it leads to alienation.. Everybody lives in his ethnic bubble -for the most part!
I had similar experience when looking for a job!
What the author says is true! Especially the “canadian experience” and many Phd taxi drivers..
Canada has entered into a demographic decline, and needs MORE immigrants! That’s why they started accepting 300k newcomers since 2018!
It’s sick! To all newcomers – remember, the first generation of immigrants really suffers A LOT, you will get most stress!
That’s how the scammers make money. They can bring 1 million new immigrants every year but still Canada will always be short of immigrants because more than 50% of them will leave the country after spending all their money and unable find a suitable job. Out of the 50% that stayed back, 80% of them will be working in labour jobs at the lowest level. The other 20% will have okay to decent jobs.
So overall who WINS – CANADA – Government, Business and arrogant and racist Canadian people 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Someone should create a website to tell the truth that Canada only drains countries of their skilled personnel so that they drive taxis or clean toilets for minimum wage in Toronto, Vancouver or Montreal. And those who are under Stockholm Syndrome should quit thinking to themselves that they are cleaning poo from the toilet “for the future of their children” when they could have been CEOs in India as they were before they migrated to Canada. Their children would ship them off to nursing homes when the parents become old and frail.
are canadians more racist than australians?
Toronto has become worse because rents are rising very fast, but wages are stagnant. Also the dating scene in Toronto is very terrible for single young men that I fear that those recent “incel” attacks in Toronto are an effect of the feminist revolution in the city. However, Canadians are blind to the gender tensions that they blame brown people for the attacks, even though the van driver was Armenian and the Danforth shooder was technically Canadian-born.
As I have read the reviews of different people above……
What is the minimum income of an average middle class person in Canada who works in a factory or a shop…..
what is the income required in Canada to live a good life …..means having a Car, weekend parties, outings with family….
Min avg: $30,000/yr or $18/hr.
good life for single person is good enough with $30,000. family probably not. $60,000 should be the target but its hard for a single person to bring in that but easily manageable if the family works
I do not get how you guys mention such low numbers. As a visitor, I average at minimum between $60-$80/day on food alone. Most restaurants are going to get you about $20 per meal. The lowest I can think of is Villa Medina Veg. option which will cost you about $13. This one does not have any cheese, so you cannot live on this type of meal. Most Indian restaurants will cost you in $20-$25 range. Fresh.ca meal or Mexican restaurant meal will cost $30-$35 per meal per person. I would say that at minimum a single person needs $75,000 before taxes job. With that amount, you can barely survive in a city like Toronto. I mean survival without a car travelling in metro. I am also assuming that you are lving alone. Unless you are living in some restaurant basement for free, you cannot survive well at anything less than $50,000.
Hi Parag,
I am having 10 Lakhs per annum job in India working as an accountant , this canada bug bit which made me to eventually apply for the PR . Now i am in dilemma whether am taking the right decision or not. Will i able to purchase a home in India with my earnings in Canada 5 years down the line.
Yes, you will be able to purchase a home in India with your earnings in Canada. The question really is do you have a job in Canada that pays you salary commensurate with your experience? If you have to start at minimum wage doing menial jobs then nearly all your money will go in taxes and expenses.
Its better to go and live in Nigeria than coming here to Canada.
Get a job offer first before moving to Canada. You will waste years and years of unnecessary training and job skills to fight for competition for a minimum wage menial labour job in Toronto. Canadians are not tolerant of foreign education and job experience, but they expect CEO jobs when working in countries like Saudi Arabia, Dubai or the Emirates.
Car insurance for a newcomer will be at least $5,000/yr in the Toronto-area, rent is another $18,000+/yr for a 1-bedroom apartment in a crime-infested ghetto part of Toronto, food is expensive, you will have to fork up at least another $5,000/yr for meals, & cell phone plan is another $2,000 a year if you don’t use as much data on the plan. Frugally, that’s $30,000/yr, but working full-time on minimum wage is only $24,000/yr net, and going on welfare is only $8,000/yr net.
Expenses such as car repairs, gas will be another $3,000/yr depending on mileage,and this bumps your required salary to 40k a year net, and those jobs are very hard to find for any immigrant or brown/black person in Canada.
Many immigrants were better off in their home countries that have 1/10th of the reported GDP per capita (~US$50,000) of Canada. IF you’re arriving here without any connections, you’ll barely save $5 a month in costly cities like Toronto or Vancouver. The rest of Canada are larger cities and mid size cities, and the rural areas are filled with racists & over 65% of the land in Canada is owned by that evil Queen Elizabeth may she rot in hell.
Toronto. Once you arrive in Canada at this particular city, it will be very difficult to leave, and you’re stuck in their LGBTQ culture while struggling to survive.
Over $1,000 to rent a cockroach and rat infested fungus risk apartment in a crime ridden part of Toronto. What makes it even way funnier is that the landlords will ask you for so many things like 3 years upfront rent, credit checks, criminal record checks and co-signers that getting a bank loan is easier than renting in Toronto.
Rent has jumped from $1,000 to $1,400 this year.
If you’re over 23 years of age, forget about immigrating to Canada. You will have to compete with Canadian middle and upper class teenagers for summer jobs and part-time jobs because those are the only jobs you will get. Or you will be condemned into working forever in dangerous conditions such as construction and factory jobs for low wages. The Canadian dream is gone. It will take you at least 15 years in Canada to have a positive net worth and save at least for a downpayment for a condo.
So, I am a data-pattern-analyst. Canada, like every country has problems. But, one thing, Canada’s immigration policy is ‘progressive’, whatever the ulterior motives are. The one thing standing out (of other destinations) is that ‘Canada ADVERTISES for immigration’.
There are three types of comments in (after) this article:
1. People who have problems – mainly because they left a better life in their home countries and are now compelled to live ‘lesser’ lives. The government of Canada should make more effort to educate new immigrants. The immigration policy of Canada favours upper class Indians and Sri Lankans while it has a disparity for others.
2. People who have lived ‘lesser’ lives – for them Canada is indeed a God send and I am NOT being sarcastic. These people should try to understand that, although what they have is ‘better’ than what they left behind – things could be better and fairer.
3. Hubris and Propaganda comments – they are probably doing a job (i.e. paid by someone/government?/oligopoly). These people make it IMPOSSIBLE to have a decent debate/analysis. These people are NOT good for Canada.
I have dealt with many leaders/politicians, run businesses, built businesses, etc. One thing everybody agrees is that a CRITICAL citizen/employee is WAY BETTER than a HUBRIS one. People who criticize usually do it out of love to make things better.
This article, together with the comments, is very valuable for the Canadian government, new immigrants and also others. It sheds a light on the various plights and mental states of Canadians, and possibly, for other ‘immigrant destinations’.
Canada can be much-much-much-more. Lets hope it becomes so, for all of us – present, ex-Canadians and to-be Canadians.
I will end with ‘Oh Canada – we stand on guard for thee’.
In cities like Toronto, people will literally try to murder anyone who criticizes the status quo. Many people are very defensive of the city’s culture even if they are condemned into working warehouse or factory jobs for the rest of their life without a chance for retirement pension that average Canadians receive at age 50 to 55. Many Torontonians will have to work into their 80s and 90s and retire with nothing, and immigrants will have it worse, and this is all because of the economy that no one is allowed to criticize in Canada.
Ok, time for another immigrant story. I have bitter sweet moments. I would say Canada for middle class immigrant was the best bet until 2010. After that, this country is only for rich immigrants who have minimum of $500,000 cdn to bring upon arrival. Otherwise, you will be working your whole life saving every penny and still not be able to buy a house in one of the major city. Rest of the Canada is White Blanket.
My story began in 2006 when our whole family of 4 (mom, dad, me and my elder brother) came here. I went to school in Canada from grade 10 and my brother, mom and dad started working. Mom and dad were in mid-40s so they found menial jobs. Mom would work in a farm every Spring to summer and then go on government assistance for 4-5 months. Dad worked at a gas station, may be 25-30 hours per week. My dad went into extreme alcololism and there would be fight in our basement every night. It got so worse that my dad decided to check out from the family and went back to India for 2 years. He sold all the land and lived off it. Whatever he brought back, he lost it all in stock market. Meanwhile, my mom took care of the food and my elder brother had to become the man of the family from very young age. I also contributed as much as I could. I had to work full time and then go to college part-time at night. It took me double the amount of time to finish my four-year degree. I finally got the degree last year, yay!. Good thing is I paid off my degree as I took the courses so there are no student loans. And me and my mom were able to save up $50k after paying all the expenses, university education. My brother managed to buy a townhouse after 5 year of working full time and sold it save about $100 k profit. So, as a family we have a net worth of $150k now. We would have been a success story if my dad would have put up a stronger fight. But reading all the comment I think we are still better off. I now have a job as an entry level Accounts clerk paying $44k per year. On the other hand, my brother makes about $50k in same company in Sales position with no education. So, moral of the story for me is Canada does not appreciate education. Surrey BC where I live almost all the houses are owned by truck drivers, cab drivers, or construction company owners who been here for past 10 years or longer. Canada only appreciates hard manual work for immigrants. That is the “role” the system has given to Indian immigrants. If you try to succeed by being educated, then sorry, this is not the country for you. There are opportunities in the medical field, but you have to spend 6-8 years of full time Canadian schooling before you start seeing the return on your education.
Housing trend for immigrants: Right now the trend is if you do not own a house in Canada, as of today and you come here as a middle class immigrant, you will most likely never own a house in this country. In 2015, there was a large influx of Chinese millionaires that increased the prices of house by double in two years. As a result the government tightened mortgage rules. The result of these regulation was that middle class immigrants who used to “pay dues” for 3-4 years by living in one crammed basement and saving up $100k in down payment to buy a first house, now no longer qualify for mortgage of a million dollar home. The inability to not owning a home meant more people are competing for rental units. As a result the rents have also sky rocketed. We are currently paying $1300 per month in rental for deep two bedroom basement.
Job/commute: Most of the Indian immigrants will settle in Surrey. There are no decent jobs in Surrey, so you will have to find job in next city in either Burnaby, Richmond or Vancouver. That means you are either driving for two hours daily, or taking 3 hours public transit daily. It adds to the work related stress and quality of the life. I currently commute 3 hours everyday in very crowded public transit. It is same level crowd I’ve seen in Indian public transit as a young adult. Only way you will find a decent job is by personal connection. I personally applied for 163 job in accounting field and got few interviews and internships. But I only got the full time job in accounting with my brother’s reference (Sifarish). “Reference”(aka Sifarish/ Nepotism) is very explicitly practiced in Canadian job market.
Drug Problem: I am amazed that in all the comments above no one mentioned the drug problem among the Indian community in Canada. Google about East Indian shootings in Surrey or Brampton. Punjabi males are the poster children of immigrant gangsters. No other immigrant group is more villanized, than our community. There have been hundreds of 20-35 year old east Indian males shot down. They were in drug-related activity. It is a huge problem, and the Punjabi parents sweep it under the rug. Majority of Punjabi kids in my high school did drugs.
I do feel bad for international students being ripped off. They pay three times for colleges that no one ever recognizes. In numbers, I paid $35k for four-year degree, they are paying about $100k for four-year degree. After that, a job is not promised. Personally, I believe the Indian immigrants who came here in 80s, 90s and pre-2010 are the best ones with success stories. And those are the ones we saw with their glossy spending when they used to come back home. Overall, my personal experience is bitter sweet. But future is looking bright. So, I am sticking to Canada.
Well said.
I come from a family of architects, I am a technology expert and Entrepreneur. Canada has been the worst experience for me. I live on rent, people asked me to sell my house in my home country, I refused to do so – still my net loss in Canada is over $1.2MN (my commersial loss is over $12MN). I have more cash in my home country that here.
The Canadian oligopoly learns with every year how to rip-off the next batch of visitors. It is done with the help of the CRTC, Banks AND politicians. Their policy is to get us to build THEIR country and leave after a few years. We buy a house, we sell, foreclose, whatever – the house STILL STAYS IN CANADA!!!! We have list our home-country’s money and goodwill. Does the word ROGUES come to mind?
The latest $15 minimum wage hike is also another ‘bank bailout’ – now the SLAVES can afford to pay the ‘protection’ money (aka mortgage) to the bank.
Here is a true story: My landlord is from Europe. A Jewish Canadian ‘ADVISED’ him to ‘invest’ (give his money) to (un)real-estate in Canada. He bought 3 houses, was going to retire a millionair. He is now in a self-imposed ‘power-sell’. He has to sell ALL his houses within 3 months. this is after SLAVING for years, breaking rest, his wife doing the cleaning, etc. He will BARELY have his own house at the end of it.
Again, Canada is NOT a rich country – it is a PONZI scheme.
This is Canada – there is NO SUCH THING AS A GOOD DEAL!!!
If any politician sees this – the solution is a DISBAND the OLIGOPOLY before it is too late – assuming it isn’t too late already (read Controling Interests and Who owns Canada now – although the second book ‘pretends’ is it better – it is far worse – the oligpoly now operates in STEALTH).
This, hopefully, will be my last words on this subject. Anybody who reads this and still defends Canada’s immigration policy or comes here, DESERVES everything they get!
After struggling for over ten years, you are able to earn a lower middle class salary, and this is even when you were lucky to have entered the high school system rather than the adult school or mature student route which is ineffective. This shows that immigrants to Canada will have to struggle for years, even decades before living a lower middle class lifestyle. Even in India, the cost of living is lower and anyone who works over five years will be rewarded unless they are part of a lower ‘caste’, which is another story, but Canada also is racist in how they treat immigrants.
Hi Del,
You are hilarious and sorry to say a joke yourself. When you write such nonsense, someone like me will ask you what is your basis. Clearly, you have none. Lets move on with some other things. If you have so many complains about Canada, why are you here? I think you are from Italy cause you replied to me before. Almost everyone I have met wants to come to the UK. They want a better life. The better life here is about money.
To Canadians, it’s about work life balance. Canadian salaries may be lower than US but there is a life balance. Most of the complainers here don’t understand that. I am now in UK but will definitely return to Canada next year to enjoy. I find useless competition in the rest of the world a useless game to get involved in. People in Asia, Europe, Middle East are just competing without any foreseeable goals. Australia and Canada are heaven compared to all this.
Second, for young people there is no problem. I have worked in many countries. Even those countries don’t acknowledge every third world degree that falls into their hand. Why should they?
So I suggest, you find another hobby other than complaining here. Go shopping, enjoy the great outdoors, running a business, help the Canadian economy grow. If you don’t like these, Canada is not for you. Best to go back. Good luck!
Hey Salman,
How much is the PROPAGANDA department’s salary? What great ourdoors? Also, you do the typical response of a ‘french canadian’ – ‘why are you still here?’ (CANADA IS THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT ADVERTISES FOR IMMIGRATION SAYING THE ECONOMY IS GROWING, ETC).
I am running businesses. I like complaining – I like this hobby! So, if it ‘hurts your HUBRIS’ feelings don’t read my comments.
Also, Canada DOES NOT OFFER a balanced life – look out the window of your proganda-dapartment office and you will see.
If you want me to go back, please send me you email/phone number so that I can invoice you. Would $114BN be OK?
In case you are being serious (hubris) ‘google secret Canada bank bailout of 2008’ and ‘Canadian banks and Enron’…
As for growing the Canadian economy: Canada does not have one (I am trying my best), it is an OLIGOPOLY!
Also, I now know ALMOST conclusively that all those $300K+ salaries and sunshine-lists are all FAKE!
Thanks
Salman:
First, you have no business telling others what they should do because you have no power over anyone. People are free and you do not have any authority to tell whether they should stay or go. Canada is supposed to be a free country and people can stay here and criticize all they want. Second, no one is really buying your entitlement based lifestyle. On one hand, you are talking work-life balance and then you turn around and say grow Canadian economy by starting a business. Next, you say it is all about money and then try to justify why you should earn less money in Canada. You are free to live any lifestyle you want but do not tell others to live a lifestyle based on your values. This is the exact type of arrogance that people do not like in Canada.
I am an American and I never buy this BS of low salaries and work-life balance philosophy. UK, Canada and Australia suck because of their Monarchy butt kissing ways. You guys are really not happy but always pretend to be happy by giving some crappy emotional logic.
Parag:
Maybe you should consider what others wrote before telling me. No one wants a complainer all the time. Canada is still far better on all KPI. I have been living here since i was a child. It is only the first generation having issues, not the second generation. They are doing just fine.
How funny you say these countries suck? Are you seriously telling me India, Singapore, UEA, Sweden, China, Brazil are better? Get Real!! Almost everyone there want to leave their country for a better life.
Monarch butt kissing or capitalist monoply in USA….They all kiss someone. So dont think the US isnt the same. Yah i have seen how obama, trump and all of them tried to change. They couldnt do anything. So dont talk nonsense. There will always be a hierarchy no matter where you are. If lower pay is equated with stress free life, it is worth it. Just look at the economic hub cities. People working like crazy without any life. Who wants to be there long term??
Well, I have made money and that is how I have time. So cut the crap. You cannot enjoy if you do not have the money. Canada sucks! Do not tell me that it is a great place where people want to be. I cannot ever think of living in Canada. Even during my visits, it is horrible experience. I like a few people but vast majority of Canadians are plain horrible. The very first contact people have of Canadians are really immigrants (restaurant workers, shops, etc.). Everyone looks at you in a scornful way. Even immigrant place hates to see a person with US passport. Everyone in Canada seems to be judging you. I once walked into a restaurant and the waiter tells me that Breakfast will cost you $12 thinking that I could not affort $12 breakfast. May be Canadians do not notice these things but Americans do. I am against Monarchy. Canada is so screwed up that majority of land in Canada is owned by the queen. Out here in America we have much better rights and there is no monarch. Any country with Monarch means that all citizens are second class citizens because the country has relinquished the idea of equality in preference for human idolatry. You guys might try to seek justification that you really have it good, but I say, you have no choice. You guys are just screwed!
Once again, it is only perspective. Let’s see the facts.
You can’t deny that Canada is coming on the top of livelihood index. I don’t know where you have been but Vancouver consistently ranks at the top by world economist.
Second, enjoying life with money is the propaganda that US is selling everywhere. They are too materialistic and can’t enjoy any other way. According to this, the rest of the world would be un-ejoyable. Sounds a bit funny don’t you think? Enjoyment doesn’t equate to money. It only seems so cause corrupt humans in the world want to be make money for everything making it almost impossible for others to go against them. It’s up to us humans to change.
Third, if queen owns Canada, she is doing it by democratic way. If Canadians want, they can choose to own it. They queen will have no objection. Try doing the same against the capitalist venture, banks, and corporations who owns the whole USA, including the politicians. The fact there is wars in many places in the world is cause the USA is losing its presence in the world.
If you want to talk about rights, by a far stretch, all these problems of unequal healthcare, capitalism and homelessness, corporate money laundering, surveillance of government are all violations of rights which you should deserve for being a dabbling player of materialism and glamour! So please, don’t make me laugh anymore!
Yes, in Canada we have many choices that we enjoy as humans. Canada is moderate and thinks a century in advance for the next generation. Canada is not a spendthrift nation. It has many resources but just cause we have does not mean we will misuse it. That is what a mature expansion of human mind is all about. The USA only enjoys an illusion and it is well on its way down. Where are you going to go next and try to justify stupid capitalism and imperialism?
Salman:
These screwed up philosophies are really loser philosophies. I have heard Australians and Canadians talk about the cost of living or best places to live rankings. I have money to buy permanent residencies in both of these countries if I really believed these are really good countries. The fact remains that governments of both Canada and Australia are oppressive governments who suck the money out of rich and give it to losers like you. There I said it. This is exactly how I see Europe, Australia, and Canada. A vast majority of the population in these countries are freeloaders. A vast majority do not have the problem with the political system that helps them. However, it is the winners who have a problem. I have traveled to Europe and Canada so what you say does not surprise me. I have heard expensive health care, gun laws and education statements before. For me, these are parrot phrases that people repeat about the US. I love the American health care system. Thank god that it is expensive because whole Canada would come to the US if it was not expensive. The vast majority of Americans have health insurance and the quality of care is excellent. Contrary to what you hear, health care in America is affordable because the majority of Americans have health insurance through their work.
The most important thing about being an American is that you take charge of your own future. An American is second to no other American (no Monarchy), and US government is among the least oppressive government (when oppression is measured by taxation). The main benefit of living in America is that your true potential comes out. If you read the comments about immigrants in Canada then you will realize that Canada goes that extra mile to suppress the talent of immigrants. Canada wants their money but not talent. By comparison, US never goes and seeks immigrants to do low-level jobs. Most of the restaurant workers, truck drivers, construction workers in the US are Americans. Legal immigrants in the US come here for higher level jobs like professors, doctors, entrepreneurs, etc.
The type of immigrants that will love Canada are really the scum of earth refugees. Or real losers who have no real motivation in life and want to subscribe to stupid philosophies like Capitalism is bad, Corporations are bad, etc. Anyone who is educated or wants to make a difference in his life or world may not find Canada suitable place to live. Canada lies to get these guys into Canada and then people are exposed to oppressive goverment/Oligopoly. So you see nothing is absolutely good or bad. If you are a loser, the US is absolutely worst place for you and Canada is the best place to live. However, if you are a winner then you would not want to live in a place where your true potential is suppressed. America is a place for winners. It may not be perfect but there is no other country that even comes close if you have a winning attitude.
Parag
Here you are again with your propaganda. I don’t feel like taking you back to school but I think I need to clear your BS. That’s all I will do in this reply. First, you say Canada doesn’t like people like me who judge and now seems like you are the one judging by saying loser philosophies. Ironic to say the least. There is no such thing as winning and losing philosophies. Let’s move on.
Yes, giving people charity and those in need is no problem. Selfish losers like you who only think about money are the problem. Yes, vast majority are freeloaders but that is because the govt doesn’t know how to get rid of them. The opposite is true when too many people are selfish and think they deserve ever more money for hard work, then society pays and you start to see poverty appear as happening in the USA. They think resources are endless and they are somehow in heaven.
It is not true that Canada doesn’t want talent. They fully want but they hold everyone accountable to a standard. Not every tom dick and harry makes it here. I am working as a second generation. Do you think they don’t want me? Besides, look at the message of not wanting people that is sent by trump and boris. Canada doesn’t intentionally supress anyone. It’s the people who fail to see what the country wants. USA is saturated market. Canada is growing economy. Canada needs people to do day to day stuff that will run the economy like build infrastructure. They don’t need to put people to the moon and open NASA here.
You say people like refugees will find Canada great. If you were a refugee, you would understand what basic need of life is. Having money is not the reason of your existence in life. If you can make a difference, go help them.
You say corporation, capitalism is bad philosophies. Only a scumbag like you will say its not. Open your mind. Yes capitalism and corporations can help in many ways but don’t forget the other side. Almost all corporation don’t play in fair trade practices, they promote consumerism which results in misusing the world’s resources. All these big money that the usa has is not transparent of its sources. They accept lobbying as a way of life. Tell me if you don’t think its corruption.
I can go on more and more like how USA wants to buy resources in many parts of the world. No sane country would allow it. Saudis sold themselves in this manner as well as places in Africa and asia. So NO, the only reason USA is winning is cause these people are losers. Look at china, its rising keeping their own culture, language and barring US influence in their country. There is no real point in arguing with you. I have heard it all before and like I said, a human being is to be more conscious about everything rather than win and think wealth is apex of success. These are all the grey areas in life. Personally, I believe that’s where religion comes in. No religion prescribes a winning mentality at the cost of other humans. Rather it teaches to be humble with what one has and lead a normal life helping others. So YES, even religion promotes socialism and that is what humans will be judged on eventually, not their winning economy. Clearly you don’t care about this. Also btw, I know people like you are only fan of USA while its good. In bad times, you will run to the next country and suck them. And FYI, I am an American and lived in seattle. If I wanted I could also buy PR anywhere and was even offered NZ PR. I don’t need to brag to prove myself. Only stupid Americans who are blind to their govt’s wrong doing go on bragging about their success and their country. That’s why most of the world hates USA.
Salman:
I do not want to reply to all your comments because you are wrong in many ways. Just, for example, Canada is growing economy and USA is not– Not true.
Everyone hates the US. Well, that is how I want it to be. If people do not hate you then you are not successful. This is one thing I never got about Europe and Canada. There really think that being popular is a good thing. Not right for me. When you have the lion’s share of everything then people are going to hate you. The thing is that there is nothing they can do. Act on your hatred and you are a dead man. You are only allowed to talk about US hatred. Clearly, our viewpoints are entirely different. I do not really buy your way of thinking. I have heard these comments in my travels and ignored them because subscribing to them means low salaries, high taxes, and money going to losers. I do not even buy finite resources aspect because of assumptions that people make. American approach to economy is pushing growing the economy by pushing technology frontier. US is pushing technology frontier in space travel to access future resources from other planet. So go ahead hate all you want there is not much you can do. Most canadians come to US for shopping and save taxes. On annual basis 30,000 canadians migrate to US as against 9,000 Americans migrating to Canada (from much greater population). If you call Canada with low GDP growth, low salaries and high taxes great place to live then so be it. No one is buying your BS.
its funny with those big words. lions share is not the problem. its one thing to brag about rights but another to ignore the responsibilities. there are many things the rest of the world can do. you just cant even fathom them. in the 2008 crisis, the only reason USA didnt go into the great depression is cause china boosted its investment by magnitudes and the FED reserves are just making money like there is no tomorrow….so bug off with your nonsense excuse. USA is on borrowed money and cant even take care of their own lion’s den….haha lion’s share…joke of the century.
those 9000 coming to canada are probably the smart ones with a clear vision.
your knowledge is very limited. i suggest you read philoshophy, economics, and politics as a start. if i argue, you dont even have knowledge to debate. this is where europe excels far more. capitalism is falling under its own weight. the model of pre-1970 and post 1940s was the one that was sustainable.
see lectures by famous economists like Yanis Varoufakis, Younis and so on.
Lastly, like i said before money is not the aim. if it was wall street bankers would be nobel prize winners. they are not. real world academic visionaries are. you are not even close to their level and there is no point of debating with jokers so stop bragging nonsense
Actually, I am in Toronto, Canada and it is totally messed up country. I have to eat 5 times to get my protein intake because I realized that most of the items do not contain cheese. I am never worried about US economy because it is the debt to GDP ratio and credit ratings that count. For all those bragging about China, well look at Chinese credit rating it is mediocre. America credit rating is highest any country can get. If US was really worried about its debt then it would not go on slapping tariffs. America kicks butt. All this talk that America is weak is no senses. It is even kicking Canada’s butt and Canadian PM does not know what to do. All those tariffs and America is still #1 in credit rating and real GDP consumption. As I said, you can hate America and criticize it all you want, there is nothing that is going to change. America is about being #1 everyone else is going to shuffle its ranking below it.
From what I see the class barriers in Canada work like this:
1st Class – English and French.
2nd Class – Chinese and Muslims/Arabs (yes, really).
3rd Class – Indians and South Asians and British Isles.
4th Class – Ukrainians/Eastern Europeans (but they are lead to believe they are first because their skin colour is white).
5th Class – Filipinos (they think they are better because the people they server, live-in-caregivers, etc make them feel first class).
6th Class – New Immigrants, 1st Generation Immigrants.
7th Class – Anybody who is fighting for recognition (volunteers, etc).
8th Class – If anybody calls you ‘Guys’ you are 8th class! When they call me ‘guys’ I tell them all me ‘Sir’ or ‘Mr’.
I have not fitted the blacks because I really can’t see a pattern in the class they belong.
If you have MONEY then no matter what, you are FIRST CLASS (but don’t shop at wholesale or wall-marts or eat and McShops – if you do your class goes below 5th!)! In other words, don’t work SLAVE jobs and believe you are first class, if you are a not earning over $360,000 per year, delivering Pizza, driving a taxi the class barriers applies to you – not matter how big your chipboard house in the ‘slum’ is.
Yesterday (recently) the CRA was fined for harming a business in B.C. (Nanimo) with the judge saying ‘It was reprihensible and malicious’… , many might think that it is a victory (Canada is great), but it is NOT!!!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/cra-tax-prosecution-malicious-injustice-1.4563235
Canada is an OLIGOPOLY (a corrupt one at that) and the CRA, CRTC etc are there to protect them. So, this family getting $1.6 million of (depreciated) Canadian $ after 12 years of fighting is NOTHING for the oligarchy as they have succeeded in destroying the business and the oligarchy has protected themselves and earned BILLIONS of $ by destroying this business and family and also by INTIMIDATING other businesses like them.
So, this is again a load of BS and shows how corrupt and EVIL Canada is!!!
My story:
When I started my IT and technology business in 2009, every (yes EVERY) IT/tech company in the city called me for an ‘interview’ – they said they will help me get customers and (some) gave me ONE order. With the award of the order, they told me ‘this is a list of our customers’ so please don’t approach them. When my salesperson visited a customer one IT company called me and threatened me. (these were all white companies and First Nations companies – even the First Nations think brown people are ‘dirt’). My driving testor was ‘first nations’, until I threatened to SUE the government he kept failing me saying ‘your country people do not know to drive’. I have driven in many countries for over 26 years! The same happened to my daughter in North York!
I now live in a different city. My salesperson is WHITE, but still they do it, they call me and say ‘your selling methods are aggressive’, or, ‘you don’t know to manage your business’. Finally, when they find out that the business is ‘brown’ owned, they attack the WHITE manager for working for a brown company. This is not only white people, Chinese, Indians, Sri Lankans, Bangladeshis, Pakistanis, Blacks (especially Trinidadians/Jamaicans), Muslims/Arabs – they ALL are racist (Ukrainians/Eastern Europeans think they are God’s chosen people for Canada)!
The most recent ‘unpleasant’ experience was in an Indian mall in Brampton, ON.
So, yes, if you are migrating to Canada, be aware that not only WHITES, your are fighting your own kind and also other ethnics!
Canada’s immigration policy is ONLY to help the OLIGOPOLY -the rest of us are FOOLS and SLAVES in an ‘estate’ belonging to about 75 families!
Tony, now in Canada, they give preferential treatment to women for even low earning jobs like construction worker. But guess where the female construction worker will be assigned? Right at ground level directing traffic for double the wage of the man building the 80 floor high rise for independent women. Feminism is also funded by the 75 families in Canada. Rockefellers funded feminism with the help of CIA asset Gloria Steinem in the USA.
If you are brown skinned, you will experience prejudice from BLACKs too. Blacks (especially Trinidadians, Jamaicans) believe they are a better class of black and they prefer to deal ONLY with white people.
True story: White salesperson makes sale to black business. Brown systems designer person goes to do business study. White ‘partner’ of ‘black’ customer immediately decides that nothing that the brown person does is good enough. Black customer aborts project. Happens every time!
It really is CRAZY! Again I have lived in many countries, Canada is really SCARY!
Time to sue somebody!
Again this is from experiences!
To moderator: Please link to this article, it will help others: I realized Canada’s health care is a racket by 2009 because I build businesses and know how taxes work – I also overheard a conversation between two finance staff of the finance ministry where they were ‘laughing’ at ordinary citizens as they believe that the ‘healthcare’ is actually for the RICH AND ELITE of Canada:
Following is an article from another site about the Canadian healthcare racket, I know this story is true because a similar incident has happened to somebody very close to me:
Excerpt:
Most Canadians, with the exception of Alberta, where I live for half of the year, either pay for our hospital and doctor visits as part of our taxes or are billed monthly by the province we live in. Having been born and raised in Canada, I’ve taken for granted being able to see doctors or receiving emergency medical care whenever I need it – right up to the point where I no longer could. I needed to visit the hospital, shortly after moving from one province to another. I’d registered as a resident there, but my paperwork had somehow been lost. A month after seeing a doctor, I received an $800 bill in the mail. So, that sucked. Even when things work the way that they’re meant to, not everything is covered. Things like dentistry, massage therapy or counseling only happen on a pay-per-use basis, or if you’re lucky enough to have a job that affords you a health plan. I fall into this latter group, thanks to my partner.
And then there’s the cost of drugs.
As The Guardian recently pointed out, Canada has the second highest drug prices of any industrialized country in the world. We’re also the only country in the world with a universal health plan that doesn’t cover the cost of drugs. If you’re a Canadian with a chronic illness, like my father before he passed in 2008, affording the drugs required to ease your pain or keep you alive can leave a family in poverty. Hell, thanks to some interesting/poor choices in my past, I’ve been left with PTSD. Without my partner’s health plan, paying for the drugs that help me to feel safe and grounded while I work my shit out in therapy and on the streets every day might be too expensive for me to afford. I have to imagine that a lot of Americans worry about similar things happening to them.
Read the full article at https://boingboing.net/2018/02/15/canadian-healthcare-isnt-as.html
Many jobs in Toronto don’t offer payment to insurance plans for dental, eyecare and other treatment. If you need a root canal, you’re out of $1,000, and if you lose any of your teeth in an accident at your general labour job, not only will the Canadian company use loopholes to avoid responsibility, but you will have to pay the full cost of Orthodontic treatment which is in the tens of thousands, and inflated because only Canadians can afford insurance to cover those costs.
WARNING: IF you’re MIDDLE & UPPER CLASS in your home country, PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE CONSIDERING THE LIFE CHANGING MOVE TO CANADA! Your immigration consultant, the Canadian government and other sponsors of Canadian Public Relations are LYING TO YOU. IT’S VERY HARD TO FIND A JOB IN CANADA! Do your research and don’t rely on snake oil salesmen like lawyers who work for the Canadian immigration industry.
If you are earning well and living a good life in India, it’s best to stay here itself. I made the mistake of moving to Canada after hearing great things about the country from an immigration consultant who happened to be a friend 🙁 Tried searching for a job but couldn’t find any as I didn’t have the so called ‘Canadian Experience.’ I wish I had come across this post before I wasted my hard earned money in applying for a Canadian PR.
The immigration consultant is not your friend because that ‘immigration consultant’ screwed you over like a snake oil salesman, or even worse, because one can always throw away their losses and start over, but once you immigrate to Canada and leave everything behind, it’s very difficult to move back to your home country because you sold everything in India to live in Canada, and now jobs aren’t there in Canada except for white men to work in office towers, and their white female counterparts to answer phone calls in those office towers for $65,000 a year.
Thank God! I came to this site and have read the opinions before I paid money to Immigration agency. I am 44M, drawing a very good salary in India equivalent to 72K CAD. For past one month somehow this Canada immigration thoughts entered into my mind and I started doing research. From the time I started, I was not feeling well about my thought but now after going through the comments here, I am OUT of it, can sleep well tonight and from tomorrow will start focusing on improving the career in India itself. Thanks to all of you.
To Canada Aspirant: You are indeed very lucky you found this site! I did research too, Stephen Harper saying that IBM says they are short of 60,000 IT engineers, teachers, etc, etc… When I came to Canada, CIBC put a 21-day hold on my money, about 6 months later the Manager at TD did something similar… that is when I decided something was wrong. As a data pattern analyst and an entrepreneur who has built and done business in other countries I began to realize that the ‘poverty’ I see in Canada is not my imagination (later I read the books ‘Controlling interests’ and ‘Who owns Canada now’), so around July 2009, I entered ‘Canada bank problems’ in Google and got 2 results; the secret bank bailout and how Canadian banks were fined by the USA for the Enron ponzi scheme. I do not wish to say more, but I will in the near future as I am doing a full research in to this.
Apartments located near 500 Dawes Road in the gentrifying East York borough of Toronto is very poor in condition, that several tenants voiced their concerns that pest infestations, dust and mite allergens, mould and mildew, and very high fire risks are issues in the apartment, and what does the Councillor, a feminist advocate does in response? She sides with the slumlord, who is a Canadian woman of privilege, and then censors any newspaper using libel chill to stop any discussion of those run down apartments in Dawes Road. The apartments of concern are in such a poor state that it’s akin to slum housing in 3rd world countries. The Canadian government does not like these types of stories and complaints from surfacing in the media.
Stay in India, and if you need to move, there is the entire European Union and the USA to migrate to….DON’T CHOOSE CANADA! You will not find such high wages even in cities like Toronto. It’s serious in Toronto that even applying to clean the floors of a factory or warehouse for minimum wage is competitive!
I think Canada is Oligarchy where a few people control most of the wealth. What seems like racism is probably effects of Oligarchy. Immigrants come to Canada thinking they will strike richness only to realize artificial constraints that Canada imposes. Most Canadians are born in this system and do not necessarily recognize it or worry about it. Immigrants take notice and consider this racism. If you are coming from India, you need to realize that you are coming to an economy that is half the size of India with 5-10 times higher cost of living and one-third the GDP growth rate. In other words, you are making a transition from booming economic system to a depressed system. You will exhaust your money fast and the money that you will actually earn from a job will be siphoned in taxes and other daily expenses. Westerners are quick to point out caste system in India but feminism is also carving out gender-based entitlement that is no different than caste-based politics. The only difference is that case based discrimination is illegal, but feminism is considered progressive.
A white Canadian feminist will never sign a complaint to the government to increase wages and to improve better working conditions for Caribbean and African female immigrants who work in warehouses and factories for 1 cent above the legal hourly wage in Ontario.
I think it is a setup. They want you to come over with money, spend it and then go back home poor. Think about it. They will not let you come if you do not have money. Once you have money then they will let you come into Canada with false promises of booming economy, and not give you a job. Then they would expect you to work for minimum wage AND expect you to say how wonderful Canada is!
True indeed. It’s a shame that immigration consultants, lawyers and post-secondary colleges and university administrators are lying to foreigners about how great Canada is, when it’s not.
In the USA, one can get houses on a lot which has a large backyard, in states like Louisiana, Florida and even Texas for less than C$300,000 if converted to Canadian currency.
In Canada, even if you live 50 miles away from the “Greater Toronto Area” or “greater Vancouver Region”, houses on very small lots cost over C$550,000. It doesn’t make sense when Canada is only 1/10th of the population of the USA, but almost as large as the USA if you omit the arctic regions, and it will still cost a million for an igloo up in Nunavut because it’s ‘world class’ like Toronto.
It is 2018, and it is 10+ years since we came to Canada. Canada is THE MOST RACIST and discriminatory, bigoted and HUBRIS country on the planet!
Canadians will only accept you if you have CASH and willing to do ‘slave jobs’. Banks (and the government, etc) are not tolerant to people, they are tolerant to CASH.
For example, if you are a new immigrant the Drivers’ Test will FAIL YOU THREE TIMES. Since you need to go to driver training, the entire process costs you over $1,500.00.
The sad part is the CASH racism is adopted by even your ‘own kind’. No white or newer immigrant will accept the fact that another colour other than old Canadian white can own executive businesses or hold executive positions like CEO, Managing Director, etc.
Note: RACISM where it matters, good jobs, etc – not having your fellow ‘slum’ neighbour saying good morning to you…
Canadians LOVE YOU and are NOT RACIST as long as you are doing a lesser job and driving a car lesser than them.
Take note, NOT ONLY, white Canadians are racist, new immigrants, for example (from experiences) from China, India, Philippines DO NOT WANT TO BE EMPLOYED by other colours. If they do they want PREMIUM WAGE. They will BEG and WORSHIP white employers/people (again from experiences).
Then others will ‘ask you to work free’ so that you can get ‘Canadian experience’ (happens almost one per month). 10+ years down the line and still a ‘Canadian’ (brown, black, yellow AND white) will tell me ‘you need Canadian experience, so you can’t charge these rates..’ (I have proof!)
Ukrainian Canadians and Eastern Europeans believe that it is their (God given) RIGHT to ‘educate/guide’ all new comers on how to live, etc (they assume that you lived in a ‘sh*t hole’ before coming to Canada… We have had Canadians correct our English only to learn from us that we were explaining to our Son the meaning of a word in another language. English is our first language and we speak 2 other languages.
Canada is NOT multicultural, Canada is a country of different cultures doing their own thing with sporadic integration which is negligible. In other words, if I am correct ‘The oligarchy promotes this to divide and rule (and keep the CASH within themselves)’.
Canadians are so HUBRIS that if you complain/criticize about the country they will ask you to ‘leave if you don’t like it’ and I now respond ‘only when I get my refund with interest’ and they change their tune.
In short, the Canadian immigration policy is a MONEY GRAB for the country, and Canada is an Oligarchy, if not,
I have now come to the assumption that all the ‘high salaries’ etc are all GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA. Canada is in fact one of the POOREST countries on the planet. That would explain why there is someone ‘hitting you for a buck’ (begging) in the name of ‘charity’ at every corner.
Whatever the reason, Canada is NOT WHAT IT IS Portrait-ed TO BE in the ‘fake’ (advertisements) media. It is extremely challenging for a new-comer and gets worse as you go along. Canada’s immigration policy is approximately 30 years old, and the ‘writing is on the wall’.
I’m here for 4 years and never saw anything rasist so far… You know.. if you think and talk about this, you will see and experience it everywhere every day.
After graduation, I started to work for minimum wage and now (after 1.5years) I make around 80k per year with no previous Canadian experience. All you need is hard work. Canadians will respect you if you work hard. So stop complaining and work hard!
You are a LAIR! Please give us your company name and designation. Since you are painting such a wonderful picture of Canada I will get the Hon. PM to give you a medal! Having said that, as my comment says ‘SPORADIC’ ‘success’ does not count. The government has a ‘affirmative action’ where they pick a TOKEN guy like you to do their PIMPING! 🙂
By the way – what is ‘around 80K’????????
Also, your MATH does not add up!
You have been here for 4 years, worked for 1.5 years, that means you studied for LESS THAN 2.5 years. What did you study? This information will help New immigrants who are complaining to get ahead!
Again, plese let us know the name of th company you work for that promoted you to $80K in 1.5 years. Wow!
Average salaries are very lower in Toronto. Likely $35,000 to $55,000 a year for a job which requires at least 1 year Canadian experience and a 4-year degree in a competitive field or industry like Management or IT.
“If you think and talk about this, you will experience (racism)”….
This is what Canadians are good at—gaslighting the victims of discrimination. denying racism is considered very offensive, that in European countries which took part in WW2, denying certain genocides is a crime because it not only offends, but it causes hate and anger against minority groups. But very tragically, Canadians hide racism in order to give a false image of Canada as a welcoming and multi-cultural country.
Denying racial discrimination in Canada is a growing belief within Canadians who only want immigrants to arrive to Canada with their life savings so that it artificially boosts the GDP of feminist-occupied cities like Toronto which act like a parasite against the working class and wealthier provinces.
‘Slave Jobs’ at Fiesta Foods for minimum wage are competitive. Canadians are complaining that the immigrants are ‘taking away their jobs’, even in service sector dead-end jobs!
The Eastern world is growing while the Western world is slowly declining. Why would a middle class male or female from India, UAE, Singapore or other developing nations want to live like second class citizens, worse than how dogs are treated, to live a very depressing life in a very feminist country like Canada?
If you work in an office and a Canadian female doesn’t like the way you look or your culture, or if she views you as a competitive burden (she fears that you are smarter than her), all she has to do is cry that you harassed her, and once she complains to HR and the Ontario Social Justice Tribunals, there goes your job and reputation.
For you computer technicians out there, please share this website article using your SEO skills and expertise! More potential immigrants need to know the truth about immigration to Canada! The Canadian establishment only wants educated and skilled immigrants because of their assets and monetary base!
Canada will never allow a 17-year-old to become an immigrant under their points system, but they want a 45-year-old Manager with MBAs into Canada, but there are no jobs to commensurate with that immigrant’s experience in their career!
Prepare to struggle to even find minimum wage janitorial jobs in Canada. Don’t say that I didn’t warn you.
Letthem know that scams like Primerica, Vector Marketing and Amway are MLM Ponzi schemes which survive on recruitments, and are not real careers!
Ironically, at most Primerica offices, they hire a white Canadian woman as a receptionist as a full-time paid employee, so that she can call and scam immigrants, mostly newcomers, to an “interview” for a “job” at Primerica.
I personally try to spread the word around as much as possible THAT CANADIAN IMMIGRATION IS SCAM AND DON”T COME HERE!
You need to share this website to others! Canada immigration is set up as a Ponzi scheme.
Educated immigrants cannot apply for welfare, because they have to show proof of funds to immigrate to Canada, but a white female Canadian who works as an escort under the table is eligible for the best welfare that Canada can provide as long as she tells the social worker that her criminal pimp boyfriend who pays her $1,000 a month under the table in child support left her to fend her for her unwanted pregnancy.
The Canadian government has even created censorship walls to block the Internet. I was once in Canada and typed google.com and it changed to google.ca. The Canadian government does not want you to do a worldwide search. The search engine is tuned to show biased results. This way Canadians are shown how great their country is and criticism of Canada is screened out. Canada is anything but a free country. It was different a decade ago, but today Canada is a communist country.
Websites such as NOTCANADA and the comments section of “Canadian Immigrant why Canadian immigrants leave Canada” article on Canadian Immigrant website were shut down.
If canada wasn’t one giant Ponzi scheme, they wouldn’t have mysterious agents shutting down websites and comment sections criticizing Canada.
I used to complain on Twitter that the Canadian law enforcement allows Canadian women to pose nude around other people’s young children, and Twitter banned me for “hate speech”. All that I said was that parents should talk with their child if their Canadian teacher or daycamp teacher ever showed their nudity around them or other children during yearly Pride.
Honestly speaking, Canada should just stop skilled immigration. There are are just lying to all skilled workers that are immigrating to Canada with their money. Canada is only good for refugees or illegal low skilled job kind of people or if you have serious problem back home.
All skilled workers come here thinking that their existing qualification and experience will help them to get a great job but that’s all lie. Companies here only hire workers with local qualification and experience. So coming here be ready to start from scratch, meaning for example if you are 40 year old Finance professional with a Finance Degree and an MBA with lets say 15 years experience then you will be very lucky if you get a paid job in your field within the first 6 months but then again you will be working as the same level as freshly qualified person most likely 22-23 years old. To move up the ladder you will definitely need to do local qualification. So if you are okay to do this at the age of 40 then you should come to Canada. And it’s not that Canadian education is of high quality that’s requires extensive studying, research or practical experience, it’s just very expensive and its Canadian so all employers want that.
The worst part living in Canada is that Canadians think they are doing immigrants a favour by letting them come, that is not the case at all. Every year roughly 300,000 Immigrants come here with an average of CA$ 40-50K, that’s in a year foreign money coming in is between CA$12-15 Billion. This is just the money they bring for their survival. I am not counting other money spent during the immigration process. Out of the 300K many will leave Canada withing 1-3 years and some will leave after they get their citizenship. Because of this there is always demand of skilled workers and immigration is always open so is this scam. So this whole process does helps a bit to the Canadian Economy. Many of the Canadians have jobs because of the demand created by immigrants coming to the country every year. But Canadians being the most stuck people I have met, always looking down upon immigrants.
So my question to all skilled people who are planning to come to Canada, why will you want to come here?
I remember how Primerica used to con thousands of newcomers with the promise of a “job” at Primerica. Primerica is an MLM fraudulent Pyramid scheme where when one is “hired” at Primerica, they pay a $99 fee, then they have to “recruit” several others in other to “earn” a $500 paycheck. It’s a scam which thrived on newcomers that Primerica was actually endorsed by job agencies in Toronto a few years ago, but I heard that after complaints, Primerica isn’t allowed to use Ontario Woodgreen Employment/Youth Employment services or the TDSB operated employment services to advertise any “job vacancies”.
It’s gotten so bad in the Greater Toronto Area that people are literally fighting over for garbage collection non-union jobs. Remember folks, it’s only white Caucasian Canadians who are allowed to work in unions which pay better rates!
Canada wants to import at least 350,000 immigrants next year. I shudder to think of their destiny in Canada. Jobs in Canada are already difficult to find, and apartments will be a sore to rent because of artificial demand.
I remember reading a story where an international student, a male, was falsely accused of sexual harassment by a Canadian female at their university campus.
The male student was under investigation by Toronto law enforcement, but it was abusive, that the international student later killed himself because the police were harassing him and he was innocent, but the police harassed him.
You have to be very careful at the new wave of racism in Canada, known as feminism.
I’m sick and tired of hearing this bullshit all the time. My father was an immigrant, he came with a little money in his pocket and work jobs he would never do in his mother country, took English courses that he had to pay back in full, but he did his jobs and kept quiet, now he’s retired and enjoying life. Immigrants now are self entitled man children that expect everything given to them on a silver platter. If you don’t like it here go back to your own country c@nts. I’m working overseas and I tell you, Canada is one of the few countries that aren’t a total sh$thole. So let’s keep it that way, and get Trudeau out of office, he’s destroying the country.
For someone who has been visiting Canada since 1990s, let me tell you that blame needs to be shared. Canada was a different country in the 1990s. As a tourist, Canadian government used to refund taxes that I used to pay. Travel between the US and Canada was a piece of cake before September 11. Around 2005, Canadian government got greedy in part due to financial mismanagement. Like a sponge, the Canadian government is soaking money from all over the place. So are businesses. NAFTA also benefited Canada in the 1990s so there was a boom in the economy. Canada is a shit country today. Do not compare stories from immigrants of the past with immigrants today. Earlier immigrants came here with little education so they did jobs and were happy. Today, money soaking Canadian government will lie to get the richest immigrants, soak the money they bring and make them work at hourly wages. What you have here is a scam and you cannot blame immigrants for telling the truth. Even if you immigrate from the US or the UK, the Canadian government will make you take English test so that it can milk several hundred dollars from you. Canada is on the road towards poverty and is scavenging for any money it can find. The cost of living is skyrocketing. It is a country that want to be US while keeping European culture. You cannot be both.
I voted for Stephen Harper during 2015. I knew Justine Trudeau (feminist lover) was going to win because of WEED and his selfie pics. I still voted conservative…
What most Canadians who are immigrants (not Canadian born) don’t realize that if USA became a second world country, CANADA would be doomed. We rely on USA and we need them badly. Trudeau loves MUZZLIMZ and feminists.
wait till 2020, White people know that they are becoming minorities, and should start moving to White Majority areas to escape racism from non-whites. I knew a few white families that moved to Northern BC and the Island. as of 2016, Whites are only 73% of Canadian population. Maybe 74% if you include White South Americans and Eastern Europeans who immigrated to Canada recently.
This country will be doomed in the next 5 years, and Major cities will be seeing a WHITE FLIGHT and they will move to smaller cities and towns, while Toronto becomes Islamic, and Vancouver becomes Beijing.
Don’t you realize that even if you’re a brown skin colour, Canadian-born Sikh like Jagmeet Singh of the NDP Federal Party, Canadians will still call you a Muslim?
White Canadians don’t have your interests at heart. When Ontario Conservative Premier Mike Harris imposed severe welfare austerity in Ontario, he knew it was targeting the new wave of newcomers to Canada who were of African and Caribbean origin (Asian immigrants came mostly in the mid to late 1990s).
Vancouver was already populated with Mainland Chinese and Hong Kong foreign investors since the 1980s, nothing new.
But why feel any pity for Canadian whites? They’re all over the world spreading their political agenda to foreign countries like a moral police.
Do you even know where, how, when and why India implemented very stern laws regarding gender issues and financial issues (such as demonetizing 500 rupee and 1000 rupee notes?).
It’s the white Canadians and a few white Americans who are imposing a cultural revolution. India swallowed Western feminism and LGBT agenda like a thirsty person gulping down water after a 30 min walk in the desert.
Do you think that white Canadians would welcome you with open arms if you advised them to become vegetarians? So why feel pity for white Canadians who are moral and cultural agents of discord?
1950s European wave of immigration is different than 21st century wave of immigration. Many European immigrants who fled Italian fascism or Nazi Germany were living in a time when houses didn’t cost 50-80 years of one’s minimum wage salary.
Try finding a decent family size home on minimum wage in Canada. $11.40 per hour doesn’t cut it for a liveable wage.
It’s unfair that the Canadian government is lying to immigrants and fooling them to immigrate to Canada as unemployed and jobless. No one from the current professional immigrant class in Canada wanted to compete with 15 year old Canadian high school students for part time McDonald’s jobs. Those professional immigrants were probably owning restaurants and businesses before selling everything they have to immigrate to Canada under lies and deception.
I also find the statement: “If you do not like it here then go back where you came from” illogical. You cannot bring a rich immigrant by lying and then let him exhaust his life’s saving because he cannot find a job, and then tell him to go back home broke! For this statement to make any sense, Canadian taxpayers should refund all the money for lying. Most existing Canadian taxpayers are the ones that are benefitting from the money that immigrants bring with them. You cannot run a scam and take all the money and then tell the person giving you the money to go back home.
Scams like Primerica or Vector Marketing only require that the “job applicant” pay a fee of a few hundred in order to earn a “job”, but Canadian immigration is one giant Ponzi scheme which destroys lives, careers, countries and societies! Think of what happens when a doctor from a low-income country migrates to Canada, and ends up homeless on the street! The low-income country loses a doctor, and the doctor loses his livelihood and ends up a burden on Canadian uptight society.
@ Parag: I don’t understand why you expect immigrants to Canada to remain passive at an urbanite from Toronto shoving their genitalia in front of their 5-year-old daughter, but in the USA when Blacks organize a protest to end racism, the “Natives” run them over with their car, but if a brown person was to drive that car, people would be calling for the death penalty.
In Quebec City, a young white French Quebecois male complained on Facebook how Arab “rapefugees” were harassing women (white women), & then a few weeks later he stormed into a Mosque, and murdered at least 6 men in a mass shooting, but he was not charged with terrorism or called to be imprisoned for life.
The real “Natives” of Canada and USA are Indigenous/Aboriginal/Eskimo tribes whose lands were stolen by the Caucasians. Ironically, a Caucasian settler in the 1800s paid little or nothing for land expanding vast territories because they stole it, but now, everyone expects immigrants to Canada to shell out over 1 million for a storage unit size house in Toronto.
You should also read the calculated sexual harassment campaign against Indo-MPP Darshan Kong article found on this website.Apparently, he was targeted because his cultural way of interaction was viewed as sexual harassment to a Canadian woman. This is no different in Jim Crow when Black people were accused of sexually harassing white women just by looking at them the wrong way.
Don’t worry. The so-called native who ran over the crowd will also be given the death penalty. America is much more fair society than Canada is. Just look at wealth distribution in the US. Legal immigrants make higher wages, on average than natives. In fact, you cannot immigrate to the US unless you have a job. America did its search for “universal” values at its founding, and if you bring “other” values to America then America is not going to tolerate them unless they are shown to be “universally” good ideas. Your comments are somewhat judgemental and a little bit racist as well. In essence, you are recommending censorship (nudity, etc.). Democratic societies allow free discourse and only ideas accepted to majority get traction. The ideas of censorship might look good for you but Canadian society is rejecting them. So, you have to show some respect to democratic institutions. Otherwise, you will be considered a bigot. The racism that you seem to be claiming may not a there after all because you may be coming across a wrong way to most Canadians because you seem to have some preconceived hatred towards Canadian values. Immigration requires a degree of adjustment from one’s part to be successful. You cannot bring your old values into a new system and expect the new system to accommodate your old values and culture.
hello everyone..my name is Imtiaz (37Y) and living in Dhaka, Bangladesh. By profession i m a banker (Sr. Asst. Vice President position) with 12 yrs of experience in HSBC n in a local bank. Presently me n my spouse (also a banker ) income is approx. USD3,000 per month (including cash salary & other non-cash benefits). My younger brother along his wife just immigrated to Vancouver despite of having good jobs here. i m living with my parent’s n have one daughter of 17M old. i m kind of thinking to apply for immigration to canada shortly. My younger brother has a plan to bring my parents to canada AEAP. So i m very much startled reading above experiences regarding migration to Canada. Can anyone give his/her honest opinion knowing the actual situation over there n give suggestion plz. Thanks a lot.
Mr. Imtiaz,
You’re going to struggle in Canada because you’re not going to be hired as a Manager/VP of a financial institution when Canada doesn’t recognize foreign credentials, nor foreign accounting/banker designations.
Medical doctors from India who conducted life saving surgeries are condemned to cleaning toilets for minimum wage in Canada…And don’t be fooled by brainwashed people who assume that they can live comfortably on $11/hr in Toronto or Vancouver….THAT’S POVERTY LEVEL WAGES IN CANADA.
You’re better off applying for jobs in your field in United Kingdom and European Union….Canada doesn’t recognize foreign credentials, and they now use a covert racist way to deny immigrants a job in their field which Canadians will not talk to you about because Canadians need your life savings to boost the economy in Toronto and Vancouver.
Canada also has this nasty form of white supremacy disguised as white feminism….Your wife is also going to be discriminated in the job market in Canada, unless she is 100% Canadian white.
Nooooooo….dont come here! I’m Yadesh (41M) and I was a ACCA Member who worked in India, United Arab Emirates, Luxembourg, Singapore and Great Britain……I was unemployed for over 1 year here in Toronto and I was forced to apply for $11.40/hr cleaner and janitor jobs….I felt dehumanisation when I was being interviewed for a cleaner position….This white woman from HR looked at me as if I didn’t even deserve a cleaner job….She knew from the start that she wanted to waste my time and “put me in my place” by rejecting me for the lowest paid job ever that even illiterate people can work here in Canada.
I think I now understand why young Black and brown male immigrants end up resorting to crime; the system in Canada wouldn’t hire them and bills have to be paid.
Is it that dire that you cant use your ACCA credentials to find work back in London, England or in UAE? Wow.
Thank God I read this post before I made payment to the immigration Consultant!
If you’re already established in your home country that is India or any emerging economy, I see no reason for anyone to immigrate to Canada and waste their life fighting for toilet cleaning jobs along with the other 100,000+ yearly skilled immigrants to Canada.
Hi everyone i am also planning to move to Canada with my family, but as per all this conversation now i am concerned.
Secure a job first, then move.
Don’t move if you have a family. Unless you have so much money that you are moving to Canada to retire then you may be fine. Otherwise, it is not a good idea because you will run out of money and then you cannot live in Canada or go back. At that point, you will have to do whatever it takes to survive in Canada. This is how people get stuck in Canada.
@Parag, do you find it hypocritical that pale Canadians want to impose their nudity on everyone citing it as “don’t judge my lifestyle or how I look in appearance”, but immigrants are negatively judged on how they look and their skin colour?…Pale Canadians have low birth rates because they are followers and promoters of LGBTQ and feminism which are considered anti-life and detrimental to society.
Personally, I do not have an opinion. Values are determined democratically. This inner fighting will not help anyone. Both immigrants and natives need to compromise to some extent for the overall benefit of society. One thing is sure, Canada will be ethnically diverse in future and acceptance is the key to its survival.
If you’re not guaranteed a job offer which pays at least $80,000 per annum, DON’T MOVE TO CANADA.
Trust me, the last thing you want for your family is to leave the comfort of your middle class lifestyle in India to become almost homeless in Toronto, Ontario, Canada where at least 95% of immigrants are trapped from leaving because they are out of their life savings!
I’m noticing that as long as you are middle and upper class in India, you live relatively well; even the healthcare in India is improving that Canadians themselves are flocking to India for 21st century healthcare like fertility treatments and cancer treatment.
Also moving to Canada does not guarantee a better life for your family…..50-50% chance that the Social Worker that your wife will meet will be encourage to divorce you, and then you will have to pay child support and alimony and you cannot flee the country at that time because you will have to surrender your passport as a lien to the alimony debt.
21st century Canada is infested with decadent Caucasian Canadian political agendas such as LGBT, white-only feminism and transgender rights, so if you’re uncomfortable with a transgender or lesbian teacher stripping nude in front of minor students at school in Toronto, then Canadians will consider you an “intolerant homophobe” and they will attack your cultural identity while claiming that they are not racist.
I don’t know about your case entirely, but the Western 1st world, not only Canada are slowly declining into decadent rot, while the Eastern Oriental and Asian world are slowly rising such as China, India &Russia.
Why would you, a prospective immigrant to Canada, sell out all of your assets in your home country, including your family home, so that you can have the honour of renting a slumlord apartment in a crime-ridden part of Toronto? Are you crazy?
I agree personally I new a lot of engineers dentists lawyers architects to mention some of them working as a little men survival jobs. Is hard and Canada is all propaganda time that you think you going to get something but nothing happens so free advice if in 1 years you don’t get it is going to be painful get it later. More time more pain
It’s like chasing a carrot on a stick getting nowhere in life.
But it’s ironic that when refugees are settled to Canada, the local Canadians raise a stink….Those Canadians only want educated immigrants for their life savings, along with a hidden agenda to weaken foreign countries, because if the educated classes are leaving their home countries, it is a loss for that country because that doctor will be condemned to cleaning toilets at the TTC washrooms (if they manage to even get that job) for the rest of life.
This is unlike the States where immigrants can only arrive from work on a visa, and then they can return to their home country richer than before. In Canada, they falsely promise you with a career in your field, but when you arrive from Toronto, you learn that you cannot even find unpaid volunteer positions within six months of arriving in Canada.
The lies perpetuated by the Canadian immigration industry to falsely lure immigrants to Canada should be condemned to the fullest extent!
Racist Canadians are now adopting the 1900s ‘white nationalism’ agenda, which is perversely in alliance with white Caucasian Canadian feminist rights agenda.
One of the reasons why that white nationalist from Quebec City murdered several men in that Mosque was because his movement feared immigrant men, mainly Muslims, harassing and committing crimes against their white Caucasian women.
Another man named Dylan Roof in the States murdered several Black people in a church venting similar views a year before.
Racism in Canada is becoming very dangerous for an immigrant, especially if you’re a brown or black man. My advice is that you avoid these Caucasian women when they arrange their topless and pro-nudist rallies (usually in major cities like Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal and several middle sized cities across Canada like Calgary and Edmonton).
One false accusation from a fully naked Caucasian woman can mean trouble if you’re brown or black, because the racist white nationalists can victimize you for the white Caucasian woman’s ‘honor’. It’s dangerous in Canada for an immigrant. Racial tensions are high.
No lie detected Canadian Experience. Coming from a visible minority born and bred in Canada you are very correct.
Even if you’re born and raised in Canada, it only lessens this outrageous racism in Canada by 50%.
I shudder to think how immigrant students will fit in at these Canadian high schools.
One female school principal from Markham, Ontario posted violent calls on social media to attack Muslim women for what they wear, and she gets paid leave and support from the “Alt-Right”.
Now, I already posted here before, it doesn’t matter if the woman is the strictest Hindu who avoids all meat and meat by-products (100% vegetarian), if she is wearing a sari, the racist Canadians will accuse her of being a Muslim.
Canada is becoming a very messed up form of Ku Klux Clan racism veiled under a cause of “women’s rights”, but no one cares if immigrant women can’t find jobs, or how they are treated as criminals when they apply for welfare.
No, in Canada, it’s all about how that upper class white woman in her ivory tower at Bay Street “feels” discriminated if she can’t have her “rights” to conduct morally unacceptable behaviour, such as walking naked in public or engaging in sex with minors for “sexual education”.
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HI, I am a single, female working as Food Engineer in India. I have been planning to gain PR visa and go to Canada for a few years to work.
Should i go for it. And if i do should i apply for PR myself or through an agency.
Hi Shemani, please ensure that the job agencies are registered with the government of Canada, because I’ve heard that shady criminal elements lure innocent women to Canada for the propective of working, but when the immigrant women arrive, they are forced into prostitution against their will.
Please do your resarch on job agencies in Canada. They have to be registered in the province they are offering services. Employment Ontario is a safe organization.
Do not visit any unknown place for a job, unless it is registered as an employment agency. The Canadian white people will not care if you are held captive by a white pimp who lured innocent women under the promise of job. Canada is dangerous in that sense.
Canada is a white feminist prison state. You’ll learn about the dictatorship when living in Toronto. Everything in Canada is revolved around the petty tyranny of the white woman.
Don’t believe me? Did Native Aborigines enforce and advocate for harsh laws against men such as Family Act, overpolicing of racial men, false accusations?
Jian Ghomeshi had his name dragged through the mud because of false accusations from white women that he was mingling around with. He should have learned that a white Canadian woman can literally poison an entire community of immigrants, but she will be viewed as a victim, but any immigrant man who is not committing any crime or infraction is automatically a potential criminal.
Fug this white supremacist country! They treat us immigrants like garbage unless you follow their Westernized degenerate lifestyles!
I was sued by a white Canadian pale woman because she falsely accused me of leering at her short skirt that she attended to work on several occasions. It’s considered a grave moral infraction to even question a white Canadian woman on her choice of dress at a Licensed Private school in Toronto.
Canadians have no ounce of decency or social order, but they want to impose their degenerate values onto immigrants. I was lectured by the Judge that Canadians value equality rights for women, so when I argued that the pale feminist woman was violating the dress code for tutors and teachers, I was immediately yelled at by the Judge and a few of those who attended the hearing in Toronto.
TOO BAD FOR CANADA is that I closed down the business operations of the private school, wired all of my Capital from TD Bank to a more respectable country.
Canada can keep their pale whites to prance around immodestly in a school setting and office. I for one, will not invest a cent any more in Canada!
Hi. Please stop spamming your nonsense here. there is nothing wrong with anything she wears as long as its office wear. the etiquette matter more in other countries, not in north America. everything is about money and lifestyle enjoyment. i prefer to hang with them. its their country and their lifestyle. learn to respect it. we have very strong human rights here. you are no one to say LGBT is wrong even if it has all the wrong reasons in the world. we believe in freedom…thank you very much
Actually, you are wrong here. What part of private school you did not understand? These are not public tax payer fund supported schools where a women can wear whatever she wants. There is a reason why people send their children to private schools, and that is to teach certain values. I am not necessarily agreeing with Elton because the school could fire the woman for breaking dress code. However, what you say is not correct either. Private schools use private money and they can have their own policies. If you do not like their policies then work for public schools. However, you cannot dictate what private schools can and cannot do. These schools are free to set whatever policies they want. It is called freedom. What you are suggesting is really oppression where private schools should follow some dictatorial policies under false disguise of freedom.
@ Parag: If the private school fired the woman, they could be sued for 1st world problems like “sexism”, eve though it is immoral for anyone to showcase indecency around young children.
Here is one example. A Canadian woman complains that she is being oppressed because parents and their families at East Side Mario’s were concerned that her breasts were displaying over her uniform, because she wasn’t wearing a bra:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/east-side-mario-s-bra-dress-code-work-1.4277827
In other words, if a white Caucasian female Canadian wants to choose to be nude around children, no employer can fire her, no police department can press charges, nor can the Crown Attorney request a guilty verdict, because in Canada, that would be considered “discrimination against women”, but white male employers mistreating female immigrants at the workplace for exploitation is considered “Canadian experience”.
I have to disagree. If a school has a policy about dress code then a woman can be fired for dress code violation. Let her sue the school, the lawsuit cannot stand. Policies are democratically decided by school committees and everyone working for school must abide with them. Employees contracts would need employee signature upon joining. If Canada is country of laws then courts need to honor property laws and private ownership. As I said before, there is a reason why people send their kids to private schools. If you start taking the rights of private schools then government is oppressive, and it needs to be overthrown. What is wrong is some person in school telling others what to wear. When that happens, it is discrimination. If dress code violation happens due to school policy determined democratically before even employee is hired the it is certainly not discrimination. More so if employee is required to sign a document upon hiring that they shall abide by the school policy as their employment condition.
Canada doesn’t follow Civil Code (except for Quebec), nor does not protect property rights as stringent as the United States….I guess that you’re new to Canada, so let me share some news articles related to how Caucasian Canadian women can and will sue any private owner for discrimination if she is not allowed to be naked around minors:
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-july-24-2017-1.4216304/ontario-woman-fights-for-right-to-swim-topless-1.4218620
Ironically, even though Caucasian Canadians “fought for their right” to go naked in front of minor children, they allege that they are victims of ‘harassment’ and ‘rape culture’ which usually bash on immigrant men:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/women-can-go-topless-in-ontario-but-they-don-t-want-to-fearing-harassment-1.3171257
Ironically and ironically squared to the highest integer, local Canadian police, especially in Toronto and York Region are known to force non-consensual intercourse against non-white Canadian women who work in the escort trade. In other words, the white Canadian agents of the system literally force an immigrant woman against her will, because of her profession.
When you begin to learn more about Canada and its ironies, you will realize that Canada has no rule of law for the Caucasian Canadians, while they place a great burden on immigrants to follow their onerous rules. Like for example, that case above regarding that Caucasian Canadian woman who sued that hotel and the City of Cornwall because their policies (which were democratically voted) forbid her to pose naked in venues where underage children are present?
SO what makes you think that the woman wouldn’t also sue hundreds of private schools across Canada so that she can enforce her ‘rights’ be naked in front of your child or baby?
That’s Canada for you!
The problem is that white Caucasian Canadians do not respect immigrants. They are racist and hypocritical.
On one hand, as I was debating with Parang on this thread, Caucasian Canadians expect us to respect their weird culture of posing naked around underage children, while at the same time vilifying immigrant men of perpetuating ‘harassment & ‘rape culture’ against women.
I would further add, that in Canada, while the Caucasian women are fighting for their ‘rights’ to go in the full nudity around underage children, in Quebec, a woman who is dressed in a sari, niqab or orthodox Christian dress can be forbidden to enter a government building such as a courthouse.
Even the former Prime Minister Stephen Harper proposed laws to persecute women who wore a niqab, citing the reason as it is a ‘security issue’, though Canada did not face the full brunt of Middle Eastern conflict like the USA where one would expect such a discriminatory law.
And as much as there is in-fighting in India between Hindus and Muslims, every racist Caucasian Canadian views anyone with a brown complexion as a Muslim, even if it is a Hindu woman wearing a Sari, Caucasian pale Canadians will assume that she is a Muslim because of the color of her skin.
Do not respect Caucasian Canadians because if they don’t respect immigrants, why should we respect them if they are engaged in discrimination?
Well I am an Indian-American. However, I must say that I do not fully agree with you. Many of examples you are mentioning happen on public property. Even with the waitress example you gave clearly states that waitress asked for restaurant policy and there was none. I am never a great fan of Canada, but I think discussion needs to be presented in fair manner. Some of these complains could be legit. To some extent, I agree with you as I always think that Canadians are somewhat bigoted.
Canada is less social than the States, and their political system is all about white women.
That’s why when you read a Canadian newspaper, it’s always about some white woman complaining that she can’t be naked around someone’s young child on public or private property.
In the States, a similar movement called NAMBLA advocates for similar policies, except that they are seen as scum who shouldn’t be allowed to be naked in front of someone’s child.
When you read more about Canada, you will understand where I’m coming from. Canadian white Caucasian women are the female version of NAMBLA when they advocate for nudity with children.
You have to balance the ‘rights’ of others and the public. America is very good at balancing that unlike Canada where if a Caucasian Canadian woman wants to be naked in front of your child, she can, and she will use the tyranny of the state institutions to effect her proposal in her favour.
Again Sara- you are either working for the Canadian government or are having HUBRIS COMPLEX. You are also ‘spamming’, in that sense.
I also agree that immigrants should try to integrate.
Sara, My family and I are from ‘western backgrounds’. English is our first language. We have British, U.S.A., {original country} AND Canadian qualifications (and also experiences) – so why are we not getting the high-paid work/jobs? Just two weeks ago a company called BigMacSteel (in south-western Ontario) cancelled my order after the the VP discovered that I was ‘not white’ – untl that everything went well…. I am suing!
I have done business in many countries, including the USA, EUROPE, AFRICA and ASIA. If not for my income from these countres since I came to Canada my wife and I also, probably, would have had to wash the ‘white mans toilet’ or ‘the white kids backside’. CANADA IS THE WORST COUNTRY FOR SMALL-BUSINESS/ENTRPRENEURS. The Canadian governments (not the plural) in fact do everything in their power to kill small/independent businsesses – Montessori, Uber/Taxi, Restaurants, IT/Tech are good examples – to start with. EVERYTHING IS CONTROLLED!
If you are NOT working for the government read ‘Controlling Interests’ and ‘Who owns Canada now’ by Diane Francis. The 2nd book is not very honest (my opinion) but ‘read inbetween the lines’ and you will see that about 75 families OWN AND CONTROL everything in Canada!
Also, why is Ontario paying the USA to buy our excess energy? The answer – the bank accounts in the USA that get the money belong to Canadians OR the we are paying the USA a FINE for using Lake Ontario to cool the nuclear plant.
See, how much I know?!
Sara, also google ‘Secret canada bank bailout’, ‘Canadian banks and ENRON’ and ‘Canada is bankrupt’.
If you are, infact, working for the government then you know all this already – if not you know now.
I’m surprised that the Canadian government didn’t shut down this blog and thread like NotCanada.
Insightful comments so far. I am interested in relocating to Canada with family (spouse and 2 kids) through express entry application. I like the Canadian culture and lifestyle. But I’m a bit taken back because of the hard life described. Does that mean after evaluation of my foreign certificates,applying through the skill list, there is probabilty of not continuing my career? Please I need someone to advise me. Thanks.
You will have a very difficult time having your foreign credentials recognized in Canada, even if you have American work experience….Canada’s work culture is very cliquish, and with this wave of Caucasian ‘gender rights’ in Canada, if you’re from certain countries or are not white, employers automatically assume negative stereotypes of you, thus would be reluctant to hire you, unless of course, it is to serve coffee at Tim Horton’s or sweep floors on the sidewalk for min. wage.
Don’t let any Canadian fool you! You will only be like a donkey chasing a carrot on a stick if you decide to waste your savings on redundant courses in order for the hope to be employed in your field in Canada….I know immigrant doctors who spent years back in Canadian medical school, but for years after graduating with an MD, they cannot qualify for Residency in a hospital or clinic to earn work experience for their doctor’s license, so they wasted 3 or 4 years in Canadian medical school, because if you do not have residency experience in a medical clinic, you cannot become a licensed doctor in Canada.
enough with your misogyny and sexism. women in canada have a right to dress as they please. nudity is also not sexual. it’s the male gaze that makes a woman’s natural body sexual. get over it. you can’t change our laws.
My point exactly. I am not sure why would immigrants want to change Canadian culture? You immigrate to adopt a country and its culture and not change it. Part of the problem is immigrants themselves. Frankly, as a tourist, most of my interactions in Canada happen with immigrants. While some are very nice, I am increasing finding envious and frustrated immigrants. Canada is becoming a bad country, and everyone is responsible for it. What I think is that Canadian housing bubble and social programs are responsible for it. The Canadian government is taking anyone they can by lying or whatever as long as they bring money with them. The immigrants are frustrated, they resort to their culture and hate Canadian culture. Canadians fight the immigrants to protect their culture. This envy is getting out of control.
@Parag: In Canada, under their Criminal Code statute, indecent exposure is a criminal offense….
However, because Canada as usually adopts and perverts (no pun intended) Common Law to suit their agenda, it was one Appeal or Supreme court ruling which decriminalized indecent exposure as long as it is a form of “protest” or “freedom of expression”….I’m not a lawyer able to cite the case law, but it was I think in 1996, when a white university-aged female was charged with indecent exposure for showing her breasts in view of underaged children, but then her conviction was overturned, which led to decriminalization of public nudity in Canada.
I also think that immigrants are frustrated because they were lied to when they were directly or indirectly told that they can retain their culture in Canada, only to later realize that if they wear a sari, they are treated like how Muslims were treated in NYC days after September 11, 2001, or if they wear a turban like Canadian born lawyer and Leader of the NDP Leadership Jagmeet Singh, a white Caucasian Canadian woman accused him of being a Muslim refugee. This is in spite that Jagmeet Singh was born in Scarborough, raised in the most Canadian Maritime part of Canada, and is an educated lawyer to boot…How Canadian can one not get?
The point is that while Emily advocates for censorship, it’s her political cronies who insist that when they indecently expose their nudity around young children, they insist that their nudity isn’t sexual in context, but if they feel that a refugee was looking at them, they will be the first to complain of sexual harassment, or if the person is wearing a turban or sari, they will automatically assume that the person is a Muslim refugee.
In other words, why shouldn’t immigrants complain that people like Emily support persons of questionable character posing nude around young children, yet at the same time those immigrants, even Canadian born lawyers like Jagmeet Singh, are treated as refugees based on their cultural attire?
One thing that is not discussed is how fast Canadian demographics are changing. I always have this sense that there is great tension in Canada. Part of this may be a combination of illegal immigration and influx of refugees. I found this youtube video that provides some background on how Canada is facing sudden change in its demographics. I am not sure if people can see this video in Canada as the Canadian government is seriously in censorship as well. An average Canadian cannot distinguish between an illegal. refugee and legal immigrant. As a result, legal immigrants may face even greater discrimination. It is probably best to stay away from Canada because this added burden will raise taxes even more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5JfEKvnmdk
Public nudity is considered OBSCENE, IMMORAL and unsuitable for children….What I don’t get with you white Canadians is that you can yell all you want that your nakedness is not sexualized when you show it off to little children at an elementary school, swimming pool or at those yearly “protests” in downtown Toronto, but as soon as you see males over 16 or immigrant men, you accuse those men of sexual objectification of your obscenity.
This is why one of the reasons I don’t like Canada is because of the hypocrisy. If I was a 4-year-old boy who supports LGBT rights, you’d think that’s it’s fine to show your naked body to me, but if I was an immigrant adult male, you’d be the first to cover your cleavage or run to the other side of the street to avoid me because you think that every man is out to commit a crime.
This pro-nudity agenda from downtown Toronto appears to be a child grooming agenda to molest children. I wonder if Emily or Sara will start complaining that my opinion is anti-Canadian.
I think Tia should consider one of you going first ( check it out for a year or 2 , settle down ) and then the rest of the family should move to Canada . Do think about it .
Regards
Mr Raj
I think i agree with K Last comment made by the person, When you immigrate, you should be ready for the hard time, it may goes out of the expectation but you’ve to find way out of it because you’re an IMMIGRANT. I understand the write went through poor situation and i assume they were living a ROYAL life in UAE. Today they’re complaining because they’re in CANADA, i observed people who look for lot of ESTEEM needs in CANADA as immigrants are most disappointed. There is no esteem jobs available when you move in.
I am looking to immigrant to CANADA. My one of the neighbor immigrate there and they all seems HAPPY! Few would have problem but according to my friend’s opinion those who come here with High expectation are most disappointed one and writer seems one of them
How can you be certain if they’re 100% happy? Facebook and Instagram selfies don’t count.
Unless your friends were starving poor and persecuted in their home countries, of course they will find solace in Canada as long as they do not question the status quo like an American patriot.
Many immigrants who arrive to Canada are above middle class in their home countries, so they do not expect to be serving coffee at Tim Horton’s as if they were 16-year-old high school students only working because to earn income to purchase the latest I phone for the next school semester.
I’ve been leaving in Canada and just recently moved to Dubai and it’s absolutely a different experience. People who live in Dubai their whole life will NEVER be able to move to a country like Canada where everything is simple – noone cares what bag you have and what car you drive. People have to go and get their groceries by themselves and take a metro – not a taxi.
Yes, they do require education & skills for jobs that shouldn’t but this what makes EVERYONE amazing at their jobs – not like in Dubai when you order a green tea, they bring you back because they don’t pay attention, don’t listen and don’t care. And I DON”T BLAME them – cuz they get paid NOTHING.
In Canada if you are a waitress you make decent money to take care of you and your family if needed – no one judges you.
In Dubai, people are materialistic and horrific. The government doesn’t care about people living and whats happening to labour workers who BUILD cities for them when its 50 degrees outside.
So don’t jump judging Canada when you are sitting on your ass doing nothing to change your situation.
I agree with you Daria… we shouldn’t compare Dubai to Canada, it’s totally a different level .
yes Daria. you are 100% right. the life in dubai is an illusion. even if they pay me big dollars, i will not go there. all these countries lack human right which is the most important thing.
White pales think that exposing their private parts in front of toddlers at their obscene festivities is a “human right”. Canada is a degenerate country with no morals and values!
according to you elton. no one cares what you think. leave your morals in your country
I will tell you who I find more racist than Canadians…. It is immigrants to Canada. Canada was a different country in 1990s. It seems that most immigrants in Canada are frustrated. When I visit Canada, people think I am an immigrant to Canada. Most of these people are immigrants themselves and are quick to jump to conclusions. These guys treat me like shit. I have waitress showing me the “tip” place and asking me to fill that section. I had some people deduct a few “extra” dollars out of my credit card thinking that I am a fool to notice. I pretend not to notice because I only visit Canada for a few days, but truth be told, these hating immigrants are also making Canada a bad place to live.
Using your logic, Mugabe shouldn’t have been penalized by the Queen of England when he kicked those white farmers out of Zimbabwe because those white farmers were creating monopoly on agriculture in Zimbabwe when the rest of people, mostly Black and of African DNA, were eating dirt cookies during the hyperinflation of 2008.
Why is it that every white middle income Canadian girl always trying to subvert foreign nations if they don’t accept her belief systems?
Meanwhile, you, a white Canadian, threatens to censor an anonymous commenter for complaining and ranting about the Canadian system, which white Canadian girls are trying to impose in countries overseas?
Elite millionaire Finance Minister Bill Morneau has a 17-year-old daughter who travels frequently to Africa to promote radical feminism when millions of African boys are dying because of Western-backed militia groups aimed to destabilize nations like Nigeria.
SO before advocating for censorship, look into the mirror and see what white girls from Canada are subverting African nations.
These immoral white Canadians are travelling to countries in Africa & Asia to impose their belief systems!!!! Unfortunate though, it’s only white American girls who get caught subverting foreign nations like Zimbabwe because Canadians use a sneaky way to coerce belief systems in foreign nations.
The only time Canada was exposed as a moral crusader was when “Conservative” homosexual Minister John Baird threatened to cut foreign aid and impose sanctions on Uganda for rejecting the Canadian homosexual platform.
Hi Sara,my name is rachel ,i want to relocate to canada with my family,i want to apply through a PNP,which city is the best and how do i apply???
Hi Rachel. it really depends. Job-wise, Toronto is the best. lifestyle-wise, Vancouver is the best. community-wise, every province is different.
the straight way is by skill points system.
Dubai is a foreign entity and even though you consider feminism and homosexuality as benchmarks for human rights, thousands of Canadian and American corporations call Dubai their home.
In Canada, your fellow Canadian settler people genocide the Native Aboriginals. Dubai never forced any minority group into genocide.
This is the writer’s point of view. Being an immigrant in Canada myself, I would have to agree with all that is written in this article. The thing is when you decide to leave your countries, you have to understand that it won’t be the same here. So forget your pride, forget your self-esteem. Be prepared to do toilet cleaning, the low paying jobs and all the stuff that comes with it. There will be racist people here and there but then the good ones will always outnumber the bad. Believe me on this one. There are assholes here but tell me a place where there isn’t one. So yeah when you start complaining about your life in Canada, think of the reasons why you left your country in the first place. If that isn’t enough then you can always go back. Canada isn’t for the proud. It is for the hardworking. There’s lots of hard work here and humility doesn’t hurt too.
Thousands of educated immigrants were falsely lured into Canada under the promise of career advancement. I do not think that it’s fair to blame immigrants when they are the victims of the propaganda scam in Canada.
Some facts about canada
Technically sound: a person should be technically sound if wish to get a good job here. White collar jobs are paid less.
Degrees not recognised. The degrees as well as the experience are not recognised here. Only canadian experience is given preference.
Since all the firms pay their employees at per hour rate, the shifts are made in such a way that when their services are required the employees are called to report.
Infact the canadian government should ask for their countrys degree along with IELTS scoresheet while accepting files. This way the people will not be made fool.
You guys should try Nigeria. It’s best place to live and do business.
r u serious maurice??
isn’t a bad place to live with family?
It’s called sarcasm sami !!
Yes, Nigeria is a nice place, cheap accommodation,transport and general living cost…
For raising kids,it’s good,but you must have cultured your kids well. Because it’s a free country,no restriction to any amount of fun
It’s a nice place until those pesky social interest groups from Canada and USA are coercing Uganda, Nigeria, Zimbabwe, Kenya and Cameroon to allow an influx of obscenity into their nations. For every white Canadian female travelling in Africa, she is trying to subvert an African nation. Canada has low birth rates and an alienated society because of white Canadian culture which is supportive of obsencity, feminism, immorality and homosexuality.
Homosexuals in Canada can’t create families, and they are very stringent drug addicts who spend over $5,000 a week on hard drugs because homosexuality causes illness in the minds of homosexuals who need those hard drugs to alieviate their mental and physical pain, especially pain from their back part when they engage in very dirty sexual acts.
What way do you want to migrate to Canada
If you come here illegally, Canada Government will consider you as Refugee
1. You will get help aid from Canada Government.
2. Easy to get a job because peoples will show their sympathy to you.
3. You will receive financial helping assistance from Canada Government up to 12 months to support your family.
4. Peoples will hug you, express their kind hearth to you and so many NGO help Refugees.
5. Free public transit service.
6. Very easy to get permanent Resident or citizenship.
And you skill labour, if you come here legally, leave you back home country, leave you relatives to strengthening this country economically, technically and all other way by using you skill then
1. You will not get help aid from Canada Government.
2. Very hard to get a job, if you get also very hard to work. Nobody will show you good express to you.
3. You will not receive any kind of help from Canada Government to support you family.
4. Peoples will always try to feel you that you come here to take their jobs. Do not expect any kind of help other because they are not going to do it. May be you can expect some troubles.
5. All you expenses you are responsible.
6. Hard to get permanent Resident or citizenship
Hey Dave,
Please share your thoughts on refugee.
I am an Indian and have a valid visit visa.
Thanks,
Soorya
Best quality of life……… reading all the comments seems lots of people are not agree with you Sara !!
Same experience we had. It’s blood-sucking country. We are now back in India but the struggle is not over yet. We have a house in Canada and the tenant is not paying rent, and we are running here and there to get rent and waiting for the tenant to vacate the house. Because the tenant has more rights in Canada. It’s a shit country. My husband is suffering from heart problem now because of the stress, he was a healthy man.
its not a shit country. its the best place on earth. we have rights that supersede others and by far the best quality of life. Its socialism in action. Canada outperforms every country because of quality of life, not for the need to compete with others. it doesn’t need to be like any other country on earth. It’s doing just fine the way it is.
Shut up!
Yeah sure. It is a shit country that tries to fabricate an image that it is not. You are just being assisting in that scheme. I would rather move to hell, at least it is warm.
look at your English….being assisting. i suggest you learn english in canada. some people love cold. if you love heat go somewhere else. no one told you to be here.
And I suggest that you learn how to punctuate.
Canada is an isolated, freezing and boring country. I’m sure it suits you well enough!
Sara, Look up the meaning of the word HUBRIS. Many professors/scholars have done many studies and proved that Canadians (including new commers) have a HUBRIS COMPLEX. You do too. If you are going to criticize English then ‘some people love cold’ and ‘if you love heat’ is BAD GAMMAR! 🙂
{can you take the heat, Sara? – :)}
So, you are ether suffering from a ‘hubris complex’ or working for the Canadian government’s propaganda team – yes, the government if Canada DOES EMPLY a PROPAGANDA team to mak ecomments, write articles, etc. It is indeed DIABOLICAL
Maybe that can explain why Canada depends on the USA to purchase tare exports.80% of exports go to the USA. Canada is nothing but a Banana Republic with only a white feminist police prison state.
Criminals have more rights than law-abiding immigrants in Canada.
A Canadian person only gets at maximum 6 months to 1 year prison for raping their 5-year-old student, but if you’re an unemployed Black man falsely accused of sexual harassment by a white Canadian woman at the mall, the Black man gets at least 18 months to 23 months in maximum security prison.
There is another important factor to mention about Canada. The salaries are generally lower here compared to the expenses. If you need a decent life in Canada, then both man and woman have to work otherwise it will be tough to live. But in India or South Africa if you are working professional then one person in the family – either the husband or the wife – should be good enough to live a comfortable life. Of course, if both are working in India it’s better in terms of income. But in Canada for working class people, it is must for both husband and wife to work to live a decent/okay life.
Yes, you are very right, Rahul. It is very tough for working class people to live a decent life in Canada if both husband and wife are not working because expenses are very high. But in India, you can live a decent life with one person’s salary.
well, dont know nothin until you exprience it, some of my friends are happy there and staying like surviving as they call it, and few of them saying that they are getting bored coz they miss dubai to be frank. sooit all depends on luck, yes i would suggest before migrating towards canada let the bread earner spend some time and see how things work and if not, can come back to dubai and these times iw ould say spend of that 1 or 2 months of ur holidays there. and see how it works.
Hi,
We are happily settled in UAE with 2 kids (below 4 years) . We have Canadian PR since 2015 and have been delaying our move due to above problems.Now we have a job offer (85k taxable) . Will it be a wise decision now to shift? We will not be moving for savings or money. Target is Canadian Passport for kids better future. We just need a normal comfortable lifestyle.If we like it, we will stay else we may return to UAE. Expert please advice.
TIA
Hello Tuls, yes i think its good if you move. you got a great offer of 85K. normally no one gets it here. 85K is a high end job. your kids are young. they need a parent beside them at this stage. you will be able to adjust in very easily. it is much better with Canadian passport. UAE is not great for settling just good for making money. if you delay it, you will never get this opportunity again and things will become harder for you as younger generation will be taking these jobs very eagerly.
Hi Tuls,
What is 85K? Monthly or Yearly? Which currency? Canadian, Indian or US….What does WE mean? You and your wife both have offer which totals to 85K? Where is the offer from? Do not simply plunge….. While UAE is a good place to make money…India will be the best please to spend it …..dont waste hard earned money dreaming big things
“Target is Canadian Passport for kids better future.”
Why are you sacrificing a relatively high income lifestyle in the UAE for Canada, knowing that you will struggle to even find NON-PAID VOLUNTEER WORK for “CANADIAN EXPERIENCE”?
You might think it’s altruistic to sacrifice everything you earned in the UAE so that your children will “have a better life in Canada”, but all it takes is for one spiteful, drug addict & alcoholic Canadian social worker/school teacher/ school administrator to destroy your hopes and dreams, along with your wife divorcing you for no reason other than Canadian propaganda, and your children to hate you because their female teacher spreading lies to their students.
Canada is not like the UAE where it is centered around wealth and making money. Canada has a very weird form of gender politics, and in school they focus more on teaching 6-year-olds how to perform anal sex, and how to become gay and transgender (even though these same activists will pro port that a 17-year-old female cannot have feelings for the opposite gender, ironic that they force 6-year-olds to become gay and transgender).
Working in call centre and as factory worker is not low respect job..every job is important to run this world..i spent many yrs in call centres. Its very cool job here in india.
She was talking about a person from Teaching Profession having to do Call Centre Job….which might not be comfortable to her not to you. And it is cool in india because you can run back home anytime, not when being in places like Canada
It’s “cool job” in India probably because the salary pays the bills.
You can’t live on $12.50 an hour in Toronto doing call centre jobs because buying groceries for one person alone in Toronto is at least $400 a month, and it’s even higher, even triple that cost if you live further up north in Canada.
Also, you will end up competing to rent slumlord rentals in Toronto, at least $1,100 a month for a Bachelor apartment with no bedroom, and rents increase at least 3% a year because of loopholes in the City code.
Don’t forget that $150 monthly transit pass which increases by over 5% a year even though oil prices are falling since 2015, but despite Canada being an oil exporter, gasoline prices for cars are 4 times expensive than in the USA.
You will have to earn at least $1,600 a month in order to barely survive in the Toronto area.
There’s no where like home, Sharma. You understand the language, the culture, the people, and important of all, you know your way around. So, going back home was the absolute choice, not Canada.
What culture you are talking dear? 28% GST rubbish taxes. Discrimination of Hindu Muslims. Importance of cows than a human being. Baba’s and their bhakts gundagardi. What is the attraction to go back home. One day one can be killed by mob while eating mutton at his home. India is not anymore to live in.
If anybody has any doubts about how CORRUPT Canada is, google ‘Phoenix payroll Canada’. They are all lying and cheating the public… they are all in it! They are paying THEMSELVES with OUR MONEY!
Why not Dale? let me tell you why. our countries suck for these jobs. even toilet cleaning in canada is far better than being a doctor in Asia. No respect and no money
well I disagree. How could u say that cleaning toilets in Canada is better than being a doc in Asia.
You can not say that being doc in India won’t give you the respect. That’s the bullshit..
Indian respect the doc’s as god, and let me say that it not all about money. If you are cleaning toilet then it’s not good life for you.
Exactly, its not all about the money. its about lifestyle. canada is far better than india in that respect. they dont need to join any competition and show themselves off. they have enough resource to sustain themselves for 500 years peacefully.
So you would rather clean toilets for white people rather than become a doctor in Asia, where white people are flocking to Asia in droves for medical care (and to some extent sex tourism in the Philippines and Thailand)?
Canada has more than enough land to comfortably house its 36 million people, but the Queen of England owns at least 90% of Crown land, while the few wealthy oligarchs in Canada own certain acres of land which if off limits to people.
Canada has enough land, but it costs at least $1,800,000 to purchase an 80-year-old plywood shack of a ‘house’ in Toronto.
It costs at least $300,000 for a 1-bedroom condo in the middle of the sky, and you have to pay property tax and maintenance fees costing at least another $30,000 a year to live in that condo.
Canada doesn’t share it’s wealth properly so that’s why doctors from India, Thailand, Vietnam and other Asian countries are cleaning toilets unwillingly because they are TRAPPED.
Are you brainwashed by Canadian propaganda? Toilet cleaning can’t even pay for your lunch if you work an hour wage….India may look like an overpopulated slum, but it is far better in terms of opportunities in IT and other industries, and with a way lower cost of living.
Canada is a shithole that only pale women find it a paradise because they can falsely accuse immigrants of rape and cause police to harass entire immigrant communities.
Well said! EVERYTHING IS PROPAGANDA! I have done my research CANADA IS THE MOST CORRUPT, RACIST and POOR country on the planet!
I agree with the writer. Canada is hard place for immigrants. They brought us as skill workers with bachelors, masters and languages to perform unskilled jobs. Canadians do not recognize experience outside Canada. Racism is high.
STAY AWAY
Everyone out there who is reading this.. STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!
It is not just that the jobs that are bad for immigrants. It is hard to get any, and Canada is very expensive. Even if you get a job the low paid with trouble, you might save 200 per month because you have to pay high tax on income. If you get 20,000 per year, you have to pay around 30% as tax, so plus the rent living, food and transportation if you save utility 2000 per years is much and to get your own house cost you minimum 200,000 so maybe in 20 years you will stop renting, the only possibility is if you came with many members and all save more money but if all get a job and even son the tax will take of all
yes absolutely right actually they encourage us to come here but doesnt acknowledge our professions. Even if we upgrade and do bridging programs still we end up jobless
They only want your money and tuition. The Canadian Job Market is cliquish and those who know each other in social circles obtain the better jobs. I’ve heard that it’s terrible in Canada, especially in Toronto that people are competing for UNPAID volunteer work!
Meanwhile, the 23-year-old Caucasian female just graduated from medical school and will become a qualified medical doctor by age 25! Canadian experience!!!!
America is becoming cronyism like Canada. One of the largest credit score companies hired a Music Major as their Chief Intelligence officer for Equifax….That’s like hiring a plumber to conduct brain surgery:
money.cnn.com/2017/09/15/news/equifax-top-executives-retiring/index.html
It’s easy for a white Canadian or American to ‘retire’ for incompetence.
Well, I have read all the comments and found a conclusion that Canada is not a good country for immigration. There is no value of education or degree obtained other countries, most of the people who immigrate are doing odd jobs, to get a better job one should go for a new diploma or degree from Canadian institute but till then it is not sure that one could find a better job etc. etc. So my question is why people are moving to Canada knowing all the things, why they are saying they are okay in Canada. Actually, me personally along with my two other friends and all three are doing Government job in Bangladesh deeply thinking to migrate to Canada. But after reading these comments I am totally disappointed. I am now in a huge confusion whether it would be wise decision for me to migrate to Canada or not. I am now 37+. Can anyone suggest me honestly?
Yes, Parvez, it baffles my how POOR Canada is every day I do business in Canada… it really is one of the poorest countries in the world… everything is a lie!
Parvez, in all honesty – I have worked and lived in many countries and my friends, business partners, etc – immigration is for two types of people – RICH people and POOR (SLAVES) people. It is NOT for the middle class. Everybody lies, only the RICH class benefit from it. My advice to all is stay in your home-countries and love your own people. If you are willing to wash toilets in another country, why not do it in your country for your own people? At least then you are serving your own.
IMMIGRATION IS NOT FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS! It is ONLY FOR the RICH and POOR!
37+ is too high. you will not get government jobs here. be ready for a lower job. But it will be a great life for your kids with canadian passport. Exactly my story. i am bangladeshi canadian
No doubt canadian life style is good but in short i would like to say that canada is the country which takes away the happiness and charm of my life.Life here is hell. u have to just work work and work .no enjoyment is there.Now i can not return to my country but my suggestion is that never ever come to canada.A persons talent is never valued here.
Now,after reading all the comments I’m biting my nails whether to study in Canada or not.I will give you my complete profile any one of you please advice me I say PLEASE.
Completed my graduation in the year 2016 from Electrical and electronics engineering I just got an aggregate of 64 percent with 7 backlogs.I don’t know anything about my subject.So,I came to know that MBA is easy a bit for me, joined in a so called college and cleared my 1st semester days back.in the mean while, wrote ielts secured just 6.0 applied to colleges for post graduation diploma in Electrical and electronics related field for visa purpose and want to transfer to business related course.Also retaken my ielts this time I reasonably sure that I will get 6.5 so that I can get a university admit as a master’s credentials.If I get 6.5 I will either choose MBA or some computer subjects.My age is 23 from a middle class family to be honest and I’m expecting only through bank loan.Suggest me which province is best for PR and part-time wise.Frankly say whether my decision is wise ,if not advice me what should I do as a well wisher of mine.
Dear Salman because life quality does not depend on job only I am going back to Europe even I and my wife we have a very good job position here. Australia has e better weather and better quality of the life just for that. It is really difficult for me to understand how the life could be great in Canada where has one of the worse weather in the world with the east under the snow most of the year and the west under the rain most of the year as well.
If the immigrants had the opportunity to have a European passport or USA believe to me this country would loose half of is population. Look the statistics how many people come and how many leave, this country struggle to keep the immigrant people living here. When I arrive here in 2000 in Vancouver the balance was 7000 were coming every month and 7000 thousand people were leaving. That time I understood the ones they chosen Vancouver but after few year I understood why the 7000 thousand were leaving. Today Canada is much worse than before and is in a bubble where people can not afford the life and specially the family…….. so if this is a great living !!!!
Oh yes most definitely! The only reason I came to Canada was because at the time of application only 3 countries had open immigration – Canada, New Zealand & Australia. The main reason I choose Canada was so that it will be easier to move to US.
I have also noticed a trend here that ethnicity plays a big role:
Brown people will hire more brown people than any other race and we can break it into more specific – religion wise as well.
White people will hire more white people and we can break it into more specific – Italians, Russians, Jews, British.
So you might be in luck if you are brown and the HR person is brown (which is very rare). And don’t expect anyone to help you here until unless you know them personally, just because the person is from your country he/she is not going to help you.
Just to give some prospective new comers an idea how the job market is here is your are Asian
Asian job seekers face disadvantage even when they have higher degrees, study finds:
https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2017/01/25/better-education-doesnt-help-asian-job-candidates-beat-out-anglos-study.html
Jobseekers resort to ‘resumé whitening’ to get a foot in the door, study shows:
https://www.thestar.com/news/immigration/2016/03/17/jobseekers-resort-to-resum-whitening-to-get-a-foot-in-the-door-study-shows.html
Could a ‘blind recruitment’ policy make Canada less racist?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/blind-recruitment-marketplace-1.3462061
You can decide it for yourself if immigrating to Canada is a good choice?
I am Catholic, our family has been Catholic for centuries…
Recently I told my Pastor why we don’t confess anymore; ‘Since coming to Canada we feel that we are sinning 24 hours per day, 7 days per week!’.
He is my great friend, I was able to save his brothers by telling then about the secret bank bailout of 2008 so he trusts my economic ideas… he was very sad about my Christian state, but accepted what I said… I am sure he prays for us…
I hope anyone reeading this will pray for us – Hindu, Judaism, Buddhism, Christian, Islam/Muslim and anybody else…
Thank you.
Send your resume to all the company if they are interested they can interview you by Skype then start your immigration paper. My personally experience there are lot`s of educated people ( Doctor etc.etc ) driving the cab because their education is not recognized in Canada and they must start to give the exams over again. The Canadian embassy give points for your degree then is not worth inside the country unless you can work for private sector. If the company is really interested then will be willingto sponsor you. I suggest get in contact with people and company in your job/field and ask questions.
Dear Dale,
I went through the entire post & the comments threads following it. The thing is I am a 28 year old Chemical engineer in India planning to apply for a PR from my home country which happens to be India. My consultant in India tells me that the i need to get my ECA done( Education Credential Assesment), appear for IELTS(this one aint too difficult) get my Resume ready drop it the pool & wait for ITA(Invitation to apply) the entire process will take 10 months(roundabout) & burn around 1.5 lacs of my cash. I can take that given the fact that Canada has always been my dream destination(partly because my sis who is a US green card holder & a Chicago resident wants to see me in her neighbouring country).
Now the tricky part is that my consultant tells me, rather I should say assures me that the moment I get my PR succesfully I am 100% ready for a job in the Canadian market! I just need to upload my Resume in the ‘Canadian Job Bank’ & offers will start flowing in!! My consultant also tells me that without a PR it is virtually impossible to land a job in Canada!
Should I go ahead & believe my consultant? I really really dont want to spend lacs of my hard earned cash (after spending 1.5 lacs already for getting the PR) in just flying in to Canada & then running pillar to post to find a job, renting a place, eating etc…neither do I like the idea of getting my Chemical Engineering degree treated to be at par with a waiter @Tim Hortons( not to undermine waiters but I didnt study Engg to become one or a cab driver) having said that I have no qualms in going for any technical job which is much down graded than the one I am currently working on.
I am employed with British MNC.
Please advise.
Thanks
Sorry, your consultant is a LIAR! Consider this: every year over 100,000 students leave Canadian universities. Everyday 29 NEW IMMIGRANTS land in Canada just like you! I have confronted ‘consultants’ in Canada and some have even closed their websites, etc. Show this comment to your consultant and then publish his/her name. There is a thing called ‘security clearance’. NO NEW CANADIAN can work for top level jobs as they require AAA security clearence. Today even Tim Hortons, McDonalds, Walmart have waiting lists… 🙂 Even Cab drivers now have a hard time with ‘Uber’ and many white Canadians like to use Uber so that brown/black people can’t earn money…
I sincerely wish I NEVER HEARD the name Canada… I have to wait one more year here – I hope to be out of this hell by then and I will publish all my experiences in a book without shame.
U.S.A. is still a great country – much lower cost of living, etc – but my friend, I know India – India is the land of opportunity. Have the same dreams for India, like you have for Canada and you will do well. It will be so expensive to travel to USA (Chicago) from Canada…
In 1998 we did an economic study on India.. India has over 150 million people – unknown to the world – who can BUY a country with a ‘Cashiers cheque’…. India is a super power!
He is not a liar but playing with the words. Once he gets his PR he is 100% ready for Canadian job market. That statement is correct but what he is not telling is that he will not get the jobs in his fields. Canada wants educated people coming in from all over the world, bring cash and then clean toilets in Canada.
Parag, Yes, agreed 🙂
Hi,
I am 25 years old and has 2 years of work experience.
I am planning to get a masters in computer science from a Canadian university.
Then I plan to work there.
Is it difficult to get a job there even after you study from a Canadian University? How is the job market for computer science jobs in Canada?
Thanks
Ravi
Just so you know you will be paying x3 the fees of citizens / PRs but definitely it will help you to get your career started here and the other benefit is your still young.
Also you can try to get a job at TCS or some other MNC IT firms in India and then if they have projects running here you can apply for a PR. I know many people who came here with jobs and applied for PRs and got them.
I am not an immigrant but I am married to one so I have some insight. Although I have met many immigrants who are working in jobs they are overqualified for, I know just as many who are highly successful here. The key is to do your research before hand and know what you are getting into. I will not pretend the road will be easy, but it is possible depending on how hard you are willing to work to get there. I see so much pessimism in the responses that it shocks me. Not everyone in Canada will be laid off from their job, I have never been let go nor has my husband and he is a deaf immigrant with a grade five education. I am a teacher and have never been on strike, nor do I have to constantly pay to upgrade my qualifications. I should also add that I am smart enough not to live or work in Ontario. My husband, the immigrant in the family, is a drywaller. He started out in a warehouse, then got manufacturing jobs, then found a job with a drywall company. He does not love the work, but he is well paid and has always been considered a top employee because he works hard. Whenever he left a job it was because he found something better.
Canada is not a utopia, but I don’t think it is fair to describe it as the hell that some do here. Yes there are racists in Canada but that is true in any country, and there are many here who are not. I live in a quiet middle class suburb and my street houses families of every colour and nationality, many of them immigrants.
Great point. I think context is important. What you say is correct and what others are saying is also correct. The problem is “expectations” of the immigrants. What Canada tells them before immigration is what builds these expectations. Canada tells them we need your skills and we are a high paying affluent society. These are educated people who already have lucrative jobs in countries they immigrate from. They have saved some money and are doing well already. These people come to Canada and get a run around. No wonder they are negative because they feel betrayed. Leaving a job and a country when you are doing well is a huge decision. When you feel that you have taken a wrong decision based on false marketing strategy, you feel scammed. The anger of immigrants is justified. However, context under which this anger occurs is also important to understand. Canada is not a bad country if you want to start a business, work in a restaurant, drive a cab or work in construction industry. However, it is pretty much saturated in professional jobs that requires higher education.
In other words CANADA LIES (BS) so that affluent people come here with CASH (US$) and spend it so that the TOP-75 families and te corrupt politicians can enjoy life on our dime! Tell ANY Canadian you are poor and watch them run faster than a ‘cheetah’ (cheater)!
Very true….Caucasian Canadians only want you for your money and business….Once you’re poor or fits the stereotype of poor, they not only run away from you, but they engage in racist micro-regressions such as suspicion of criminal activities, false complaints of rape (from Caucasian women), police carding, you name it.
Jolene,
Yes, every country has racists. The problem with Canada is that as a country it presents itself to the media like it is faultless and all accepting of others, well it is not. And people have a right to be irritated about that and speak their truth. yes there is kindness and open mindedness here, but hate and stupidity too. I am glad that your immigrant husband has found success. You state that he has only a 5th grade education. He has had a variety of jobs and seems to manage to leave on his terms and work up to better. This is great. For others they have the opposite experience. They have specialized skills or expensive higher educations that they worked extremely hard for and probably paid a lot for. They want to find careers that allow them to use their skills and expertise. They have a right to discuss their reality on forums like this, not to be negative but to be honest. And honestly many people coming to Canada do have negative experiences. I laughed at your Ontario remarks, I agree with them completely but someone could get on here talking about what a wonderful place Ontario is to live. And for some maybe it is.
Toronto
Me again. Starting a new life in a new country is never easy. Perhaps people need to move to Canada or anywhere else with that mind set. Before you make the move, do a thorough research, plan, strategize. Don’t go expecting the kind of life you lived in your home country right off the bat. And be prepared to WORK DAMN HARD. I see people immigrating with 2 Masters degrees and Ph.ds. Perhaps one should think about doing something else. I hear people in the trades make tons of money. Perhaps one could re-train as a carpenter or something in construction. Get a trade certification and start your own business. Sounds simplistic but highly doable. But the thing is, a lot of immigrants are highly educated and will look down on that kind of work, which is a pity because its a good way to start your own business. Just me thinking.
Actually, do not let the comments discourage you either. A lot depends on your own financial status. If you do not want to practice law and want to start a business where you are willing to put some capital then it may not be as bad (in my opinion). I don’t know from where you will be immigrating from, but business taxes are low in Canada and income taxes are high. Many doctors set up a corporation for themselves so that they can avoid having to pay income taxes and only pay business taxes. Most of the discussion here is focused on people seeking professional jobs and having difficulty finding them. Starting a new business is entirely different issue.
Oh boy! This is frightening! I actually thought to start my own business instead of getting a job as I’m definitely too old. (46, separated with 2 boys 10 and 11 years). Besides I’m a lawyer with 25 years of experience and I don’t intend to start taking the Canadian bar exams, essentially starting from a scratch. So I thought to start a business. I’m familiar with a lot of the problems inherent in Canada’s immigration system which is what put me off the first time I seriously considered it 20 years ago when I was younger and unmarried (besides the cold and loneliness!!) But after my marriage breakup, I am seriously looking for a fresh start for myself and my boys, the oldest who needs some special ed. Perhaps I ought to look somewhere else, definitely not the US or UK. But I have fallen in love with Canada (from afar) despite the abysmal weather. Could it really be as bad as I’ve read on this board?
This post and the comments opened my eyes, to something unpleasant but possibly true. It has been my dream to move to Canada. But reading this and doing a whole lot more research, I feel so purposeless. 🙁 Although I’m 27 with one and a half years of Indian work experiecne in marketing, what are my chances of carving a good career path in Canada?
It is unbelievable that after reading the article and the comments, someone is still asking to come to Canada! Maybe because some people look Canada through Facebook friends. The propaganda of Canada is hard to die and is helped by other immigrants who do not want their friends and sometimes their own family left in their home country to know the truth.
Oh, Sal, you don’t know the fools – the ones who are here are in DENIAL. They have a stupid pride (show offs)… I have to believe that these people, and the ones who are coming can’t escape their Karma… my family and I pray daily for God to forgive us so that we can get out of this hell… only 10 more months to go and we will leave hell…
The immigrant mentality is: We are better than our own!
Ok which country u belong?I am an Indian dentist looking to emigrate to canada,is it worth to immigrate der or I have to do menial job,I am very much obsessed any Canada since 2015 but reading your posts I am afraid if I will become a labourer for ever
I am 26. Double master in English lit. and Journalism and Mass comm. in India. A working professional. I wish to move to Canada with not so much money but with experience in the field of journalism. I have tried to contact friends who moved there after we left school or graduated college. They don’t talk much about their experiences, where they work, what salaries are common and how things could be worked up for a better living once an individual turns up. The only answer I have received is ‘it is difficult’, but their lifestyle visible through facebook and statements otherwise paint a different story. The interesting part is that almost all the immigrant friends have taken up courses in colleges and/or universities after moving. I want to know experiences of young professionals and would it be wise for me to take the leap? Also about journalism jobs in the country.
Hi, I am 26 years old and have a bachelor’s degree in Computer Engineering with 4 years of work experience as an application support analyst in India. If I apply for a PR in Canada. via the express entry program, what are my chances of finding a job in IT?
Hi All,
I have been reading all the comments and confirmed that I will not pursue with my Canadian migration dreams!!.
i am john am from nigeria buy i studying in canada as a international student . i need help cause am a fool canada . people treat you like piece of sheet everywhere you go , please advice
Hi i thinking about migrating. I am a chemical process plant operator with 20 years experience . Can you give me an idea of wht my chances are
Hai
I’m jabasteen.
I’m working an system administrators in India for 10, years Experience.
Im think to apply PR for Canada through Kansas consultancy. They have been giving job Assistance..
My query is
Im little confused on choosing Middle East and Canada
Cost of living between two countries
Is that we can survive
How we can spend on every month
How much we would be payed by employers
Just wished to immigrate to Canada. I have work experience and skilled in Health, Safety & Environment for years. What changes do I have to get job of that type.
I am vet , in the metropolitan city of india , has own clinic , I am 46 yr old , and my wife is 41 yr old , I am already halfway through the process of international license to practise in north america . Will it be the wise decision to come to canada and start from all over again , By the way I started my practice 7 yrs ago , though I graduated in early 90’s.
Advisable you don’t Migrate
I would strongly advise you to not immigrate at this point. Since you are a professional, you have to give exams and get qualified and by the time you can practice, it will be about 8 years. No one will hire you. Sorry to say
I would not come to Canada. Vets do make a large amount of money here. It sounds like you will have the international qualifications to practice but that does not mean anyone will hire you. Rent to start a business is high, rent to live is even higher. If you plan to come to Canada you would be better off to go to a small town but you may not find work there. Toronto is so expensive that most new people just lose all of their money on basic living expenses while they try to build a life and then they become trapped or have to go back where they came from. Immigrants who do pretty well are the ones who want to be in the trades. Canada has decided that immigrants will do those jobs and you can indeed earn a decent living at them. You are a vet though, and I am guessing do not want to be a painter, plumber, or mason worker.
I would look elsewhere.
Toronto
Hi All,
I need your help in something.
I am 29 years old with 8 years of work experience here in India in Insurance Sector.
My wife is 28 years old, A Certified Financial planner with 4 years of work experience here in India.
We both are planning to Migrate to Canada, we do not have any job offers right now.
Will it be a Right decision to move to Canada pertaining to my situation?
Regards,
Nitin
Hi,
Considering the age you are in, yes will be worthwhile
But forget your education …doesn’t matter what you have done back in your country..unless you are from England/USA your qualification is of no value..but again who knows you will land with jobs in your own field.
I am telling this from my exp. Although I live in NZ, I have a Canadian PR and am not preferring to go there as I will have to start my career again and no life there as its too cold.
Hi,
So i was thinking to apply for Canada PR via a consultant here in India. I am 28 and currently working with a well known research and advisory firm. But after reading all the comments here, I am quiet unsure about applying for PR.
Can you suggest whether or not I should go for the same.
What NOBODY understands about Canada’s immigration policiy is this:
CANADA IS THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT ADVERTISES IMMIGRATION, saying things like ‘low-unemployment rate’, ‘best country in the world to live in’, ‘a democracy (no, it is a monarchy)’, ‘high paying jobs’, ‘multi-cultural’, etc, etc.
So, you cannot compare Canadian immigration/education to other countries. NO OTHER country ADVERTISES with BIG BUCK to promote immigration as Canada does!
This year, the government wants to bring 450,000+ immigrants. Multiply that number by $30,000 = $13.5 BILLION! Now you know WHY! It is called ‘ECONOMIC TOURISM’. In the first year, you PAY FOR EVERYTHING and the TOP-75 families get YOUR money. Over 75%, it is believed, leave Canada in the first year itself.
The top 75 families who OWN AND CONTROL everything in Canada get $13.% billion in income from new immigrants… then they give it back to you slowly…. you will NEVER succeed in Canada unless you are willing to break your spirit by working ‘menial’ jobs…
Banks and everyone treats you with suspicion and with good reason… An Indian in Markham wanted to HOLD MY PASSPORT to give me the order – yes this is Canada!!!
Question about the People in Quebec.
What are they like? Any significant difference from the cold, cold, shallow, uninteresting, stupid, cold people elsewhere in this anglo-saxon country known as Canada?
I am a software developer from Ethiopia. With good skills.
I have read all of the above and have a good picture now. But what about the IT professionals, specifically developers,
they should be in need right?
So do you advice me to migrate to Canada?
Alex,
In my opinion IT anywhere in the world, has the advantage is that it is the same unlike Accounting, Law or Medicine where you have to study locally in order to get your licence. But that being said don’t expect it to be easy here, initially you might get tough time but still worthed. Chances for you are much higher to succeed but remember if you are a managerial level, you still might have to start at entry level here and work your way up the ladder.
M